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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 1:09am On Dec 11, 2022
The 3-2 self na against France. I am not happy at all! Oracle will come back stronger!
TheSuperNerd:
You don't have to believe it but you can go on and flatter yourself. I do this when I want for any post that calls it wrong.

It was just your turn today. Lol. Let it rest. 2-1 no be 3-2. And England "IS COMING HOME." grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 1:12am On Dec 11, 2022
Keshi proved himself with Togo and Mali before he got the job.
I do not see why Amuneke should be given the job now.
AndSunGorilla:
Is there a chance the journalists are not being objective? How come the U17 boys he coached were able to understand him, how come Tanzania team was.able to understand him? Siasia would have been good but Baba is now an expensive painting artwork. So if we have to go local and give them time and support, who else can we turn to at this point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:17am On Dec 11, 2022
Exactly why I added "England is coming home".

grin

Cry, mourn and then try recover.

Marjoribanks:
The 3-2 self na against France. I am not happy at all! Oracle will come back stronger!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:22am On Dec 11, 2022
Don't forget Keshi failed with the Naija U20s in 2001 before he went on to Togo and Mali.

Amunike proved himself with Nigeria's U17s and with Tanzania. He is now in Zambia making a difference with Zanaco.

The key ingredient here is Amunike is tactically astute. He is also one whose playing philosophy draws similarities with Walid Regragui. They both favor swift vertical attacking transition plays. And both make their midfield anchorman part of the top keys to their game. For Walid, it is a Ball-playing CDM, for Amunike, he prefers a DLP or Ball-playing CDM.

And we can execute such with the pool of talents we have.

Also, the core of the Super Eagles already know Amunike well and have worked with him closely from the age grade teams. The likes of Iheanacho, Ndidi, Osimhen, Chukwueze, Ejuke, Uzoho, Awaziem etc. He knows the lads to the depths of their abilities.

This is a coach that molded the beast Osimhen is today. Osimhen never fails to credit Amunike as the man who laid the foundations of his development into the beast striker he is. The mentality Osimhen has in that role came via Amunike's mentoring and coaching. Every other thing fell into place as he met other top coaches at Wolfsburg, Felice Mazzu at Charleroi, Galtier at Lille, Gattuso at Naples and now Spalletti.

Marjoribanks:
Keshi proved himself with Togo and Mali before he got the job.
I do not see why Amuneke should be given the job now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:40am On Dec 11, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Yes, they have a coaching crew. Same technical crew led by Kelvin Kaindu that was in charge when they went on a run of 5 losses in 12 league games and were sitting in the bottom half of the table.

Then came Amunike. Appointed as Direct Technical Consultant to this Team’s coaching crew in September, began his job from the first week of October and since then... Zanaco has only lost once in 12 league games. Their latest result was a goalless draw vs 2nd placed side, Green Buffaloes.

Under Amunike's technical influence behind the scenes, Zanaco are being metamorphosed into a team that can grind out results and play some good/decent football.

He doesn't have to stay on the touchlines because he reviews and previews every game with Kaindu and the crew and obviously stays in touch live with the crew on the touchlines via wireless comms during each league game. So Kaindu on the touchlines is enough.

And it's good to see you have checked out comments fro yourself from fans. They aren't lying. He is indeed the reason Zanaco is reborn.
thanks for this breakdown, I really want him to succeed because I know sooner or later he’ll be our coach, I’ll continue to closely monitor him in Zambia
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:44am On Dec 11, 2022
AndSunGorilla:
Is there a chance the journalists are not being objective? How come the U17 boys he coached were able to understand him, how come Tanzania team was.able to understand him? Siasia would have been good but Baba is now an expensive painting artwork. So if we have to go local and give them time and support, who else can we turn to at this point.
our NPFL teams have very good coaches with definite style of play, we can give them a chance to prove themselves. We need to start encouraging our recently retired players to go into coaching, none of them seem interested in coaching
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:47am On Dec 11, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Naija Lads Across Europe: Saturday, October 10

Josh Maja scored from the spot as his side Bordeaux secured a 2-1 win over Onyeka's Brentford.


Ebere Paul Onuachu bagged a brace as KRC Genk beat La Liga side, Elche 3-2 in a club friendly.
this Maja doesn’t score any other type of goal apart from penalties? Penalty merchant
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 1:48am On Dec 11, 2022
Marjoribanks:
Keshi proved himself with Togo and Mali before he got the job.
I do not see why Amuneke should be given the job now.
Yes you right, we can also say that Amuneke helped Tanzania to make the ANC since 1980!!! And immediately after his sack, they didn't make the last one. Keshi succeeded in Togo but failed in Mali too. And Keshi failed as our U20 coach at some point as well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 1:53am On Dec 11, 2022
jihday:
our NPFL teams have very good coaches with definite style of play, we can give them a chance to prove themselves. We need to start encouraging our recently retired players to go into coaching, none of them seem interested in coaching
My thinking may be flawed but I feel a full local coach without any foreign exposure may be intimidated by the players. Because at least our retired players can point to their careers and a couple of them made some money too in their hey days, but a local coach who may never have earned N2m a month in his life may just feel intimidated. The players could even claim that the coach is unaware of modern tactics etc and never exposed to world class training methods.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 1:59am On Dec 11, 2022
BascoVanVeli:
Same dude. I just added some other of his highlights to the video.
Got you, truth is Ladan Bosso doesn't like him for whatever reason. Also he shunned him the first time and truth be told, his team played well on their way to winning the WAFU U21 which kind of would even make Bosso more uninterested. Like someone here has already indicated, cream rises to the the top, that lad is one to watch out for in the future.

Btw where is that guy that used to be in Enyimba that Rohr invited? How is he faring in North Africa?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 2:28am On Dec 11, 2022
Wow, Onuachu is actually very PROLIFIC.

I ran through his profile on transfermrkt now, and wow, 161 Goals in 332 games so far. Kudos to him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:17am On Dec 11, 2022
AndSunGorilla:
My thinking may be flawed but I feel a full local coach without any foreign exposure may be intimidated by the players. Because at least our retired players can point to their careers and a couple of them made some money too in their hey days, but a local coach who may never have earned N2m a month in his life may just feel intimidated. The players could even claim that the coach is unaware of modern tactics etc and never exposed to world class training methods.
don’t forget that the late Amodu was a full local coach and he earned the full respect of the players
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs:
jihday:
all these passion you people are seeing in Morocco is because their coach have a good tactical plan, when they lost to benin in 2019 didn’t they have passion or when they lost out earlier this year where was the passion? When a team is good and winning games you’ll think it’s being fueled by passion and commitment
You're right.

The players also have to respect their coach and national team to be able to successfully carry out his tactics.

Imagine having players like Neymar who will be strolling and walking back to defense or will not even help the defense at all..

I haven't seen 1 Moroccan player walking back to the midfield and defense even when they're tired they either jog back quickly or run back to help the defense and that's down to the players attitude..

My point is no Moroccan player feels too big or have too much ego to do basic football things..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 4:38am On Dec 11, 2022
komekn:
You are the quintessential personification of the Nigerian problem.

I'm not sure if it's your education,or limited exposure to see things in blinded negative parochial view.

You are the ones that will support a view based on affiliation not substance, subjective over objective. You create a unit of measurement to appraise those whose views you favour in isolation.

Consider the bold to the educated illiterate and narrow minded, criticism is an attack not an opportunity to appraise accept and move forward.

The acceptance of FAILURE is the beginning of SUCCESS, the denial is the continuation of FAILURE.

You clearly lack understanding, exposure and take comfort in crass ignorance. Your diction betrays you .

Unfortunately perception is birthed from personal perspective not substance or factual evaluation. With regards to crass ignorance and prejudice you are incorrigible.

If I ask you to give me one instance of where I have denigrated my country and or presented misinformation and disinformation you will EVADE. But for the sake of this open discourse I challenge you now.

I doubt if you have travelled outside your limited socio political local village area. Maybe you you've been to Burkina Faso or Mali, that's even doubtful.


Your essentially tribalistic bigot with no sense of patriotism or what it actually means.

How many Nigerian origin national birthed outside Nigeria in the west do you actually know. Add to that footballers, probably none. But you have such a bad belle blanket opinion. Are you JEALOUS of them ❓thr rancourous bitter dislike is too much.
This is the behavior and attitude I'm talking about.. there's denigration all over this comment .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:39am On Dec 11, 2022
jihday:
for who?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:53am On Dec 11, 2022
Marjoribanks:
Keshi proved himself with Togo and Mali before he got the job.
I do not see why Amuneke should be given the job now.


So who is your choice coach, if not Amunike?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:55am On Dec 11, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Don't forget Keshi failed with the Naija U20s in 2001 before he went on to Togo and Mali.

Amunike proved himself with Nigeria's U17s and with Tanzania. He is now in Zambia making a difference with Zanaco.

The key ingredient here is Amunike is tactically astute. He is also one whose playing philosophy draws similarities with Walid Regragui. They both favor swift vertical attacking transition plays. And both make their midfield anchorman part of the top keys to their game. For Walid, it is a Ball-playing CDM, for Amunike, he prefers a DLP or Ball-playing CDM.

And we can execute such with the pool of talents we have.

Also, the core of the Super Eagles already know Amunike well and have worked with him closely from the age grade teams. The likes of Iheanacho, Ndidi, Osimhen, Chukwueze, Ejuke, Uzoho, Awaziem etc. He knows the lads to the depths of their abilities.

This is a coach that molded the beast Osimhen is today. Osimhen never fails to credit Amunike as the man who laid the foundations of his development into the beast striker he is. The mentality Osimhen has in that role came via Amunike's mentoring and coaching. Every other thing fell into place as he met other top coaches at Wolfsburg, Felice Mazzu at Charleroi, Galtier at Lille, Gattuso at Naples and now Spalletti.
I am convinced! Good job, Supernerd!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:59am On Dec 11, 2022
AndSunGorilla:
Yes you right, we can also say that Amuneke helped Tanzania to make the ANC since 1980!!! And immediately after his sack, they didn't make the last one. Keshi succeeded in Togo but failed in Mali too. And Keshi failed as our U20 coach at some point as well.
I agree! I just want us to give Paserio our support. If he fails, then Amuneke should be employed! TheGoodJoe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 6:39am On Dec 11, 2022
ChrisKels:
Fear that boy, Yusef En-nesyri
You all remember this post from 3years ago?


By the way, why is no one talking about this crazy leap?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 7:02am On Dec 11, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Don't forget Keshi failed with the Naija U20s in 2001 before he went on to Togo and Mali.

Amunike proved himself with Nigeria's U17s and with Tanzania. He is now in Zambia making a difference with Zanaco.

The key ingredient here is Amunike is tactically astute. He is also one whose playing philosophy draws similarities with Walid Regragui. They both favor swift vertical attacking transition plays. And both make their midfield anchorman part of the top keys to their game. For Walid, it is a Ball-playing CDM, for Amunike, he prefers a DLP or Ball-playing CDM.

And we can execute such with the pool of talents we have.

Also, the core of the Super Eagles already know Amunike well and have worked with him closely from the age grade teams. The likes of Iheanacho, Ndidi, Osimhen, Chukwueze, Ejuke, Uzoho, Awaziem etc. He knows the lads to the depths of their abilities.

This is a coach that molded the beast Osimhen is today. Osimhen never fails to credit Amunike as the man who laid the foundations of his development into the beast striker he is. The mentality Osimhen has in that role came via Amunike's mentoring and coaching. Every other thing fell into place as he met other top coaches at Wolfsburg, Felice Mazzu at Charleroi, Galtier at Lille, Gattuso at Naples and now Spalletti.
seems Spain just went through this route too, they are set to announce De La Fuente their former U-19 U-21 and U-23 coach who has never coached a proper senior team but according to them he has worked with most of the players during their years in the various youth teams.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 8:44am On Dec 11, 2022
[quote author=TheGoodJoe post=119065844][/quote]Amaju Pinick be begging players
No one is indispensable
Morocco has taught us this
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 8:46am On Dec 11, 2022
ChrisKels:
You all remember this post from 3years ago?


By the way, why is no one talking about this crazy leap?
cr7 leap grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
Blueelf:
Thanks for this

Maybe he is expecting Wenger or Sir Alex Ferguson

Not even Joachim Loew or even Herve Renard would come here
Do you remember when Glen Hoddle was in consideration for the Eagle's job, a coach and Manager with world class pedigree.

This is a guy of unquestionable integrity without blemish and a very good management and player record.

He is not hungry he has substantial Wealth and is a born again Christian.

He accepted the position but declined when they asked him to share his salary with NFF officials, he quite rightly was abhorrent and refused in no uncertain terms.

Nigeria can attract the best Managers in the world but our reputation precedes us. And there are many here that will defend the NFF and say they are not corrupt.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:50am On Dec 11, 2022
Danielnino00:
The problem is that as a national team coach, when you start calling players because you feel they suit your style, people will talk, especially if the player doesn't play in a fancy league..
Like Eguavon calling up Nwakali and Ndah because they are players who can keep possession well and distribute good passes..We saw such qualities when they played the AFCON.. People said na egunje..
Meanwhile, Rohr was selecting some players over others because they suited his conservative style of play.. For instance, Shehu was preferred often times ahead of Aina..Collins retuned from an injury at the 2019 AFCON and immediately displaced Aina who was having a good tournament from the starting eleven... Surprisingly, we didn't hear accusations of egunje
You justify the unjustifiable and are blinded to the obvious by your favouritism and double standard.

Eguavon did not call up Nwakali he was foisted upon the team by the powers that be.

Shehu was not oustanding there were and still are far better players.

Collins selection over Aina was not based on football ⚽ performance and or ability. Aina had the best statistics over all our defenders in that AFCON although he did not get the highest amount of game time.

Aina was and is still way better than Collins irrespective of the fact that he not naturally left footed. Aina is currently in the January transfer window wanted by a plethora of EPL clubs.

Jamilu Collins is now in Cardiff but is struggling to get a game even get in the bench . Meanwhile Seyi Ojo who is haven't mentioned for over 4 seasons is a regular at Cardiff and not good enough for the SE.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:54am On Dec 11, 2022
jihday:
don’t forget that the late Amodu was a full local coach and he earned the full respect of the players
I want say too much.

But you really don't know what you are talking about, l knew him when he would come to see SE players in the UK and your opinion is way off the mark.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:01am On Dec 11, 2022
AndSunGorilla:
My thinking may be flawed but I feel a full local coach without any foreign exposure may be intimidated by the players. Because at least our retired players can point to their careers and a couple of them made some money too in their hey days, but a local coach who may never have earned N2m a month in his life may just feel intimidated. The players could even claim that the coach is unaware of modern tactics etc and never exposed to world class training methods.
Although you make this in bold as a an assumption in the negative.

I see it as a statement of fact, some of our players are getting coached by the best Managers in the world, with the best facilities and a comprehensive support network of multiple professionals.

For most of our local coaches that's like a a whole world away from where they are .

So it's more or less fact that our local coaches will not know as much as as some of the players they are trying to coach. Blind man leading those with eyes � comes to mind.

I know of two Nigerian international who were willing to pay and foot the bill for a defensive coach to help the SE. But were flatly rejected by the NFF , to them the NFF coaches were inept. This is not hearsay but first hand.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:04am On Dec 11, 2022
AndSunGorilla:
Is there a chance the journalists are not being objective? How come the U17 boys he coached were able to understand him, how come Tanzania team was.able to understand him? Siasia would have been good but Baba is now an expensive painting artwork. So if we have to go local and give them time and support, who else can we turn to at this point.
You cannot compare U17 youth coaching to senior first team, please be realistic.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 10:15am On Dec 11, 2022
jihday:
don’t forget that the late Amodu was a full local coach and he earned the full respect of the players
That is correct.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 10:18am On Dec 11, 2022
komekn:
You cannot compare U17 youth coaching to senior first team, please be realistic.
Sir the context of the response is to address the notion that no one could understand what he was saying. So I say again that if younger inexperienced U17 could understand what Amuneke was saying how much more senior and experienced professional players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:18am On Dec 11, 2022
codemaniacs:
This is the behavior and attitude I'm talking about.. there's denigration all over this comment .

To quote you verbatim "you have come again with your nonsense talks"

unlike you and other foreign born Nigerians that's always badmouthing and denigrating anything Nigeria... they do not badmouth and denigrate their country...


First of all your diction is fractious, rancourous , and is anchored ⚓ on ignorant negative bias. That is not denigration but matter of fact, you have blanketed millions of Nigerians born outside the UK as HATERS of Nigeria. Thats downright stupid.

Because the vast majority of Nigeria's born and or brought up outside Nigeria. Refuse to accept the status quo of corruption, ineptitude, favouritism, mediocrity you find that denigration

You are the Nigerian problem , you have low expectations and even lower standards of probity and because we reject that retrogressive approach we have DENIGRATED the nation.

No apologies you need redemption and emancipation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:22am On Dec 11, 2022
AndSunGorilla:
Sir the context of the response is to address the notion that no one could understand what he was saying. So I say again that if younger inexperienced U17 could understand what Amuneke was saying how much more senior and experienced professional players.
In order to communicate you must relate.

The terms and structure of communication and relationships are DRAMATICALLY different between a youth team and senior first team adult team with experienced high quality professionals.

They are two different worlds �
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:24am On Dec 11, 2022
They aren't set to announce Luis De La Fuente, they have ALREADY ANNOUNCED HIM. Same day Luis Enrique stepped down.

And yes, that is the idea behind the appointment. Moving in a new direction but with another local based coach who knows the players and have watched their evolution across various age grade levels. He is also astute in the way Spanish sides play.

jihday:
seems Spain just went through this route too, they are set to announce De La Fuente their former U-19 U-21 and U-23 coach who has never coached a proper senior team but according to them he has worked with most of the players during their years in the various youth teams.
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