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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:30pm On Dec 11, 2022

NNTR:
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Definitely wasnt anything written by Jesus Christ. ..

As you do not want to accept which I of course understand why you would wish it were not True.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by NNTR: 11:59pm On Dec 11, 2022

Dtruthspeaker:
As you do not want to accept which I of course understand why you would wish it were not True.

Its not about acceptance. Hasn't nothing to do with acceptance.

Since I have shared how I heard that Moses exactly received the revelation, I wouldnt mind you sharing how, when and where exactly did Jesus Christ put together the Torah.

Iron sharpens iron. Show your hand. Reveal whats on your card(s)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:24am On Dec 12, 2022*

NNTR:
Its not about acceptance. Hasn't nothing to do with acceptance.

Since I have shared how I heard that Moses exactly received the revelation, I wouldnt mind you sharing how, when and where exactly did Jesus Christ put together the Torah.

Iron sharpens iron. Show your hand. Reveal whats on your card(s)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

The Bible complies with The Law of Evidence.
Section 126
oral evidence must, in all cases whatever, be direct –
(a) if it refers to a fact which could be seen, heard, perceivefs etc it must be the evidence of a witness who says he saw that fact;

And the Bible does not break any Law of Evidence at all

All the testimonies given there are given by the proper people who should give and who could give them.

And we can clearly see Moses testimony of the things he witnessed and testifies thereto in Deuteronomy 1.

But He did not give any testify about the the origin of this world at all which even the Deuteronomy 1 clearly shows you that it is still The Same Reporter of Genesis Who is even telling us what Moses Said.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by uncleck(op): 7:44am On Dec 12, 2022

NNTR:
Exodus 33:17-23
17 And the Lord said to Moses,
“I will do the very thing you have asked, because I am pleased with you and I know you by name.”
18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”
19 And the Lord said,
“I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the Lord, in your presence.
I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”
21 Then the Lord said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock.
22 When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by.
23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.”

Referring to Exodus 33:17-23 above, it was as if, Moses was watching a rewound video tape

Now follow me, but rewind your memory to Genesis Chapter 1, and tell me, how many goods are in the chapter (i.e. as in meaning, how many '... it was good')

Seven in total. Yeah? Of course, there are seven numbers of completeness and achievements.

Exodus 33:19
"I will cause all My goodness to pass in front of you,
and I will proclaim the name Yahweh before you.
I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious,
and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion."

So, when God, said the above Exodus 33:19, to Moses. It was God, about showing Moses about goodness #1, and check marking it, by putting a tick mark, with an, I AM, as in, its Me, who did it, starting with goodness #1 up to goodness #7. Check marking each with putting tick marks with, I AM, against all, as in, its Me again, who did all those

God, effectively showed Moses, using those series of flashbacks in Exodus 33:17-23, how He went about and did the whole creation business, even including the part mentioned in Job 38, I suspect.

Its not a joke, when I say that Moses effectively, just sat there watching a replay of events, just as if he literally was watching a video replay. Something like, as if, using Video Assistant Referee (VAR) technology, used in the ongoing World up tournament to review a missed past moment in an ongoing game.

That's how Moses was able to write and put the Torah together, including events that predated even human creation according to Genesis account

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

It's understandable that events that predate human existence could be revealed to Moses. What I am trying to establish is the writer of those books. If it is Moses as popularly "known" how was he able to write things that took place after his own death?

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by uncleck(op): 7:46am On Dec 12, 2022

NNTR:
He had instructions from God to write down stuff anyway, anything else outstanding where defo written by scribes, ghost writers, priests et cetera

Definitely wasnt anything written by Jesus Christ. The only recorded writing by Jesus was the one he did on sand

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

There has been opinions that Joshua or Ezra did, but no concrete evidence whatsoever has been established

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 8:17am On Dec 12, 2022

It was Moses himself!

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Mickykarim: 3:27am On Dec 13, 2022

uncleck:
The Pentateuch (Tora) is not just about Moses, they were actually written by Moses himself. So how did Moses write about things that happened even after his own death?

WHICH SCHOOL DID HE GO TO LEARN HOW TO WRITE?

Goes to show that he did not write any of it.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 4:11am On Dec 13, 2022

Mickykarim:
WHICH SCHOOL DID HE GO TO LEARN HOW TO WRITE?
Goes to show that he did not write any of it.

Before you criticize anything please try to use your brain a little because that's why it's there in your head abeg.
So you expect the Bible to tell you that a child bread and brought up as a prince {Exodus 2:10} in the palace of the world's most powerful king of that time must be educated, shey? undecided

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Mickykarim: 4:19am On Dec 13, 2022

Maximus692:
Before you criticize anything please try to use your brain a little because that's why it's there in your head abeg.
So you expect the Bible to tell you that a child bread and brought up as a prince {Exodus 2:10} in the palace of the world's most powerful king of that time must be educated, shey?

A SIMPLE HARMLESS QUESTION JUST TURNED YOU INTO A REPULSIVE IDIOT. WHAT A SHAME.

Mr. IDIOT, if he could read and write Go would not have written the TEN COMMANDMENTS on a board. Would rather have hm write them.

I ASK AGAIN, WHICH SCHOOL DID HE GO TO LEARN TO WRITE ON A Torah? Since according to you, everybody who was in lived in palace back in the days of Pharoah must have learnt how to write and or read.

I MIGHT BE ABLE TO SELL YOU A GRAIN OF SAND FOR A FORTUNE.

You are such a buffoon!

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 4:33am On Dec 13, 2022

uncleck:
It's understandable that events that predate human existence could be revealed to Moses. What I am trying to establish is the writer of those books. If it is Moses as popularly "known" how was he able to write things that took place after his own death?

Let's say you were opportuned to work as the secretary of a person whose words are certain then he told you that where you live presently will be demolished in six days time and ordered you to document it six days ahead of it's demolition, then send you on a mission a day after you documented it, is it possible for the next secretary to find out that you've already documented the demolition before it's done or not?

Well there are lots of secrets in this world i have heard of a journalist who was handed over two details about his own death, it's left for him to choose which of the two pleases him to happen after his demise. Of course he did because he knew it's certain that he will die that night the only power he had left is to determine whether he will be honoured after he's gone or not.

That's exactly what happened to Moses. God has told him that he will not cross the Jordan river {Deuteronomy 3:27; 4:21} so after he has documented his last writing God ordered him to go to his the place where he will be buried and there he died.

Joshua continues leading God's people and he was told by no other person but God Himself that Moses's assignment is completed so Joshua can now continue from where Moses stopped {Joshua 1:2} do you think Joshua will be surprised to find out that Moses himself has written about his own death and burial?

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Mickykarim: 4:42am On Dec 13, 2022

Maximus692:
Let's say you were opportuned to work as the secretary of a person whose words are certain then he told you that where you live presently will be demolished in six days time and ordered you to document it six days ahead of it's demolition, then send you on a mission a day after you documented it, is it possible for the next secretary to find out that you've already documented the demolition before it's done or not?

Well there are lots of secrets in this world i have heard of a journalist who was handed over two details about his own death, it's left for him to choose which of the two pleases him to happen after his demise. Of course he did because he knew it's certain that he will die that night the only power he had left is to determine whether he will be honoured after he's gone or not.

That's exactly what happened to Moses. God has told him that he will not cross the Jordan river {Deuteronomy 3:27; 4:21} so after he has documented his last writing God ordered him to go to his the place where he will be buried and there he died.

Joshua continues leading God's people and he was told by no other person but God Himself that Moses's assignment is completed so Joshua can now continue from where Moses stopped {Joshua 1:2} do you think Joshua will be surprised to find out that Moses himself has written about his own death and burial?

INCLUDING, HE ALSO WROTE ABOUT CREATION, SINCE HE WAS THERE WHEN IT BIRTHED.

Of course, God could have told him about it. Recall he came thousands or light years after creation.

He could not have written his post life, may have said it though. Just as Jesus Christ said and predicted whilst others wrote about it. He did not write anything about himself.

THERE IS A WALL OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WRITING AND TELLING AND OR FORETELING THINGS AND EVENTS.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 4:44am On Dec 13, 2022

Mickykarim:
A SIMPLE HARMLESS QUESTION JUST TURNED YOU INTO A REPULSIVE IDIOT. WHAT A SHAME.
Mr. IDIOT, if he could read and write Go would not have written the TEN COMMANDMENTS on a board. Would rather have hm write them.

Well for your information it's necessary that God write the first ten laws on stone tablets because there has never been any nation with over 600 laws on morals, virtues and hygiene.
Israelites will not believe that all those laws came from just one deity if there was no signature to confirm. So the first ten God wrote with His own finger on stone tablets suffice.

Mickykarim:
I ASK AGAIN, WHICH SCHOOL DID HE GO TO LEARN TO WRITE ON A Torah? Since according to you, everybody who was in lived in palace back in the days of Pharoah must have learnt how to write and or read.
I MIGHT BE ABLE TO SELL YOU A GRAIN OF SAND FOR A FORTUNE.
You are such a buffoon!

Please what exactly do you think will come to your mind first if you have a child today?
Well back then the first sign that a child is born or brought up in a palace is the ability to READ and WRITE: LITERACY! Daniel 1:3-4
Let that sink into your empty skull! wink

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Mickykarim: 4:49am On Dec 13, 2022

Maximus692:
Well for your information it's necessary that God write the first ten laws on stone tablets because there has never been any nation with over 600 laws on morals, virtues and hygiene.
Israelites will not believe that all those laws came from just one deity if there was no signature to confirm. So the first ten God wrote with His own finger on stone tablets suffice.

Please what exactly do you think will come to your mind first if you have a child today?
Well back then the first sign that a child is born or brought up in a palace is the ability to READ and WRITE: LITERACY! Daniel 1:3-4
Let that sink into your empty skull!

MR. FOOLISH, FOR YOUR INFORMATION THERE ARE PEOPLE TODAY WHO DID NOT EDUCATE THEIR CHILDREN. ALLOW THAT SUMMISE YOUR VERY CRASS CRANIUM.

Should that bother your very tiny little brain?

RATHER, YOU ARE SUCH AN IGNORAMUS WITH VERY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT LIFE AND HUMANITY.

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 5:03am On Dec 13, 2022

Mickykarim:
INCLUDING, HE ALSO WROTE ABOUT CREATION, SINCE HE WAS THERE WHEN IT BIRTHED.
Of course, God could have told him about it. Recall he came thousands or light years after creation.
He could not have written his post life, may have said it though. Just as Jesus Christ said and predicted whilst others wrote about it. He did not write anything about himself.
THERE IS A WALL OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WRITING AND TELLING AND OR FORETELING THINGS AND EVENTS.

Moses just happened to be a bold and willing Hebrew ready to fight for the release of his people {Exodus 2:11-12} and for this reason God chose him for the assignment but then he needs to be trained so as to become meek otherwise he himself will kill most of his own people when they exhibit their stupidity, that's why God allowed him to spend all his youthful vigor serving as a shepherd until he has acquired enough wisdom through shepherding for forty years before God declared that this former thug who killed and buried a man (alone) has now become the meekest of all the inhabitants of the earth at that time! Numbers 12:3

But as for Jesus that one is not a human from the beginning of his life, he was the first creature God made {Colossians 1:15; Proverbs 8:22; John 1:2} he worked with his father and God during the creation of other things {Colossians 1:16; Proverbs 8:30} that's why he could know so much before his own earthly birth because he existed as a mighty spirit being in heaven before then! John 8:23; 58

So you can't compare the two though Jesus is the only prophet that came in the manner of Moses {Deuteronomy 18:15-18} who served both as prophet and God in his lifetime {Exodus 7:1; John 1:1} but Jesus is far as in far greater than Moses a mere mortal descendant of Adam!

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 5:07am On Dec 13, 2022

Mickykarim:
MR. FOOLISH, FOR YOUR INFORMATION THERE ARE PEOPLE TODAY WHO DID NOT EDUCATE THEIR CHILDREN. ALLOW THAT SUMMISE YOUR VERY CRASS CRANIUM.
Should that bother your very tiny little brain?
RATHER, YOU ARE SUCH AN IGNORAMUS WITH VERY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT LIFE AND HUMANITY.

The highlighted is true after all most people can't afford 2 dollar per day so how are they going to educate their children?
But not like a child born, bread and brought up by late Queen Elizabeth! wink

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:07pm On Dec 13, 2022

uncleck:
... What I am trying to establish is the writer of those books. If it is Moses as popularly "known" how was he able to write things that took place after his own death?

And that is why this shows that it is not Moses as he could not still be speaking and writing whilst he was dead and unavailable.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Truvelisback(m): 2:24pm On Dec 13, 2022

uncleck:
How did he manage to write about his death and burial?

He could have done that before his death. Remember that he is a prophet. Prophets have the ability to see into the future.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:36pm On Dec 13, 2022

Maximus692:
The highlighted is true after all most people can't afford 2 dollar per day so how are they going to educate their children?
But not like a child born, bread and brought up by late Queen Elizabeth!

Cc: Mickykarim:

Easy guys! You have gone off issue.

Mrs Max, (your husband told us you were coming) your sudden entry here was offensive hence Micky's hot reply.

But all in all, you have not given a valid and acceptable proof which is what Micky is pointing out. Your proposition is flawed

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 2:54pm On Dec 13, 2022

Truvelisback:
He could have done that before his death. Remember that he is a prophet. Prophets have the ability to see into the future.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, this is true!

Perhaps most people forgot the meaning of that title "PROPHET" if Moses could prophesy about Jesus who was born thousands of years later {Deuteronomy 18:15-18} is it his own death and burial that God has told him to tell the Israelites {Deuteronomy 3:27; 4:21} that will be impossible for Moses to pen down?

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:17pm On Dec 13, 2022

Truvelisback:
He could have done that before his death. Remember that he is a prophet. Prophets have the ability to see into the future.

Maximus692:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, this is true!

Wrong! He can not give report of the future in present tenses.

The other Prophets gave reports of the future in future tenses.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:28pm On Dec 13, 2022

Accept The Truth and Live.

It is He Who is Called Jesus Christ, Who is the One Who Wrote the first 5 books.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Truvelisback(m): 3:31pm On Dec 13, 2022

Dtruthspeaker:
Wrong! He can not give report of the future in present tenses.

The other Prophets gave reports of the future in future tenses.

He can. Prophets have the ability to see into the future in present tenses.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 3:42pm On Dec 13, 2022

Truvelisback:
He can. Prophets have the ability to see into the future in present tenses.

Ok, you have his time, shey? I just ignored him! wink

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Truvelisback(m): 3:48pm On Dec 13, 2022

Maximus692:
Ok, you have his time, shey? I just ignored him!

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:02pm On Dec 13, 2022

Truvelisback:
He can. Prophets have the ability to see into the future in present tenses.

See your twisting because you do not want to face and accept The Pure Truth.

Not one prophet spoke about the future in present tense. Not even The Lord when He foretold the future.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Truvelisback(m): 7:40pm On Dec 13, 2022

Dtruthspeaker:
See your twisting because you do not want to face and accept The Pure Truth.

Not one prophet spoke about the future in present tense. Not even The Lord when He foretold the future.

Jesus did. Before He got arrested. Also in the last Supper, He told His disciple abt who would betray Him and Judas Iscariot fulfilled the sign Jesus gave even when Judas Iscariot was in their midst.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by KnownUnknown: 8:25pm On Dec 13, 2022*

The pentateuch wasn’t written by Moses. It’s nothing but the wealth driven agenda of some greedy and violent ancient people claiming “the lord” gave them the properties they were stealing.

You guys ever asked yourself if this lord character told the inhabitants of the “promised” land that he was giving their homes, property, and livelihood to his favorite people?

Did the “lord” tell them he was about to permit genocide, infanticide, raping, and rapine in order for the “chosen people” to possess the “promised land”?

The “first book of Moses” exposes their agenda from the ”lord” promising Abram things that didn’t belong to him to the constant cheating and lying of the protagonists all in the name of acquiring wealth.

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:45pm On Dec 13, 2022

KnownUnknown:
The pentateuch wasn’t written by Moses. It’s nothing but the wealth driven agenda of some greedy and violent ancient people claiming “the lord” gave them the properties they were stealing.
You guys ever asked yourself if this lord character told the inhabitants of the “promised” land that he was giving their homes, property, and livelihood to his favorite people?..”

Why are you this unintelligent?

First did you not hear that The Landlord and Owner hated those tenant/occupants therefore He already planned on throwing them out and replacing them, as is His Right?

Not to talk of the fact that they were now stupid enough to go an unprovokedly attack the people who The Landlord liked.

Only a fool will think that The Landlord would not destroy them.

Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by KnownUnknown: 8:48pm On Dec 13, 2022

Dtruthspeaker:
Why are you this unintelligent?

Your mother says otherwise and your father agrees.

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:14pm On Dec 13, 2022

Truvelisback:
Jesus did. Before He got arrested. Also in the last Supper, He told His disciple abt who would betray Him and Judas Iscariot fulfilled the sign Jesus gave even when Judas Iscariot was in their midst.

Your self deceit is making you mad for in this cases HE WAS PRESENT!

Please, I respect your right to self deceive yourself let's not continue.

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by triplechoice(m): 9:16pm On Dec 13, 2022

Truvelisback:
He could have done that before his death. Remember that he is a prophet. Prophets have the ability to see into the future.

Prophecy about one's own death that is yet to happen is not the same as writing about one's own death and burial as if it has already happened.

There are not the same thing if really think about it.

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Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:17pm On Dec 13, 2022

KnownUnknown:
Your mother says otherwise and your father agrees.

Obviously, nothing intelligent to say.

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