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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:16pm On Dec 15, 2022
Giroud's contributions for France were nonexistent in 2018 no goal no assist. Griezzmann tried but I can plausible say without Mbappe France may not have won in 2018 or be in the conversation for a possible second this year.

Forgot to add Giroud and Griezzmann were in the French 2014 world cup squad yet they didn't even make it to the semis not to talk of winning it. That should tell you the importance of Kylian.

Pele and Maradona didn't they do something similar which we hail them for?

andrewbaba44:
we should also put giroud in goat conversation and even griezman who was their best player at the 2018 world cup

Make everybody kuku become goat once and for all
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 2:21pm On Dec 15, 2022
Mujtahida:
Yes the world cup is the peak of international football but Mbappe regardless of his contribution will be in the conversation of football greatest like Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Cruyff, Paulo Rossi, Thomas Muller, Puskas, Ronaldo de lima, Baggio, Romario, etc but not GOAT
Remember he is still 23, still has at least 7 to 8 years to do a lot. Right now I agree with your categorization but there's still good time for him to step up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by COOL10(m): 2:28pm On Dec 15, 2022
typicalgamer:
I completely disagree while griezeman has stepped up 10x over from last World Cup.

I still think he’s a focal point and the heartbeat still remains mbappe
If I remember correctly, Griezmann hasn't missed a match for France in about 5 years. He has played every single match since 2017. That French team is literally built around Griezmann. He just doesn't get the media hype like Mbappe does.

I'm telling you, if Griezmann should get injured and miss the final, that team is going to fall like a pack of cards. He doesn't have a replacement in that team. Mbappe, Giroud and Dembele are going to suffer if anything should happen to Griezmann. They'll look so lost.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:29pm On Dec 15, 2022
chrisooblog:
Giroud's contributions for France were nonexistent in 2018 no goal no assist. Griezzmann tried but I can plausible say without Mbappe France may not have won in 2018 or be in the conversation for a possible second this year.

Forgot to add Giroud and Griezzmann were in the French 2014 world cup squad yet they didn't even make it to the semis not to talk of winning it. That should tell you the importance of Kylian.

Pele and Maradona didn't they do something similar which we hail them for?
Why going to the 2014 World Cup they didn’t win ?

The giroud was even a joke

But griezman was French best player at the 2018 World Cup and not mbappe .why did you ignore that and speak of mbappe only ?

Griezman didn’t came 3rd at the ballon d or behind modric and Ronaldo for just being an excort ,if na even goals self mbappe no score pass am for 2018

At least pele dey carry team ,do you wanna say mbappe carried France to the 2018 World Cup ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 2:42pm On Dec 15, 2022
COOL10:
If I remember correctly, Griezmann hasn't missed a match for France in about 5 years. He has played every single match since 2017. That French team is literally built around Griezmann. He just doesn't get the media hype like Mbappe does.

I'm telling you, if Griezmann should get injured and miss the final, that team is going to fall like a pack of cards. He doesn't have a replacement in that team. Mbappe, Giroud and Dembele are going to suffer if anything should happen to Griezmann. They'll look so lost.
Griezeman hasn’t been the best players for France in about 10years now he’s never been the best player playing wise or statistically.

All he did on 2018 was prey on pk that mbappe caused there’s absolutely nothing to his name.

If pogba and kante well fully those guys would be doing griezeman job but at a higher quality.

He’s improved 1million times since 2018

But let’s not get carried away griezeman is not a proven big game player if he doesn’t have mbappe carrying the attack France would be dead on the water.

Would you put hope on hot/cold dembele or loose ball specialist like giroud.

Or injury merchant like Coman ?

Griezeman has never been the focal point on any team. He’s improved greatly since dropping from attack but let’s not get carried away sir
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 2:45pm On Dec 15, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Why going to the 2014 World Cup they didn’t win ?

The giroud was even a joke

But griezman was French best player at the 2018 World Cup and not mbappe .why did you ignore that and speak of mbappe only ?

Griezman didn’t came 3rd at the ballon d or behind modric and Ronaldo for just being an excort ,if na even goals self mbappe no score pass am for 2018

At least pele dey carry team ,do you wanna say mbappe carried France to the 2018 World Cup ?
Why are you capping na

Remove griezeman France still wins 2018 World Cup

Remove mbappe and 2018 World Cup is non existent
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:45pm On Dec 15, 2022
Kog45:
Oga Dan,are you sure,poor end product with four world cup goals.My super eagles winger picked are Segun Odegbami,Finidi George and Ahmed Musa.
Four world cup goals is a big deal, absolutely no doubt about that.. But looking at his overall stat, over 100 games played and just 16 goals...That's poor end product... He is still a fantastic player on and off the pitch sha...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:48pm On Dec 15, 2022
COOL10:
Well, there could be a whole lot of possibilities or reasons for that but as we all know: THIS IS AFRICA; and whether we'd like to admit it or not, bribery/corruption sits on top of that list when it comes to this continent.

If I remember correctly, that WAFCON semifinal against Morocco had about 2 or 3 Moroccan officials in the VAR room. Obviously, they'll support their team. I remember a Moroccan player commiting the exact same foul but she was excused.


If you're playing a North African team in North Africa, just expect anything. Those guys are brutal with their cunning antics.

If only Nigerians would start repaying them in their own coin...
They must have taken the lasers with them to Water, but dared not use it... Aside FIFA being strict, they won't want to show the world their dirty side like that ... Egyptian fans on social media mocked Senegal when they crashed out calling them a laser team.. Obviously,they are still pained that Senegal had to balls to repay them in their own coin..

That being said, none of these things will change anytime soon.. North Africans hold a lot of key positions in CAF...na Dem dey run things... They don't need CAF presidency to do that... Morocco will host 2024 WAFCON,and I'm very sure they will win it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:48pm On Dec 15, 2022
typicalgamer:
Why are you capping na

Remove griezeman France still wins 2018 World Cup

Remove mbappe and 2018 World Cup is non existent
Remove griezman France won’t win the 2018 World Cup

Remove pogba France won’t win the 2018 World Cup

I Dey watch ball egbon ,no sentiments here .

Someone that won the silver ball na him you wan commot

As much as I will love to say Messi is carrying this Argentina team ,if you remove players like otamendi Julian Alvarez they might not even be at the finals
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:53pm On Dec 15, 2022
I see you cleverly ignored the fact that Antoine was in the 2014 World Cup if he was so great why didn't he at least help France reach the semis?

So if you knew Giroud was trash in 2014 and 2018 why do you insist on using him to counter Kylian's potential GOAT status?

So far the common denominator for France's success at recent world cups is Mbappe. The year Giroud and Griezzman featured for Les Blues together we know what happened.

andrewbaba44:
Why going to the 2014 World Cup they didn’t win ?

The giroud was even a joke

But griezman was French best player at the 2018 World Cup and not mbappe .why did you ignore that and speak of mbappe only ?

Griezman didn’t came 3rd at the ballon d or behind modric and Ronaldo for just being an excort ,if na even goals self mbappe no score pass am for 2018

At least pele dey carry team ,do you wanna say mbappe carried France to the 2018 World Cup ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 2:57pm On Dec 15, 2022
ChrisKels:
How do Ivorians do this? Even from the most obscure leagues, the biggest clubs in the world still sort after their talents. This one now is about to join Chelsea from Molde.
Ivorians are the greatest underachievers of African football. So much talent but mediocre achievements. It baffles me. They produce talented players more than most African countries. Maybe it's a coaching problem
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:57pm On Dec 15, 2022
Me sef weak same Griezzmann that didn't win spoon for France before the arrival of Mbappe is now indispensable?

typicalgamer:
Why are you capping na

Remove griezeman France still wins 2018 World Cup

Remove mbappe and 2018 World Cup is non existent
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:58pm On Dec 15, 2022
chrisooblog:
I see you cleverly ignored the fact that Antoine was in the 2014 World Cup if he was so great why didn't he at least help France reach the semis?

So if you knew Giroud was trash in 2014 and 2018 why do you insist on using him to counter Kylian's potential GOAT status?

So far the common denominator for France's success at recent world cups is Mbappe. The year Giroud and Griezzman featured for Les Blues together we know what happened.
The giroud talk was surely a joke

So because griezman was at the 2014 cup and they didn’t win it means mbappe was the one carrying the team ,please make this make sense oga ,can you even listen to yourself ?

Wetin consign person performance for 2014 World Cup and Wetin e play for 2018 World Cup ?

Why was griezman the French best player at 2018 ahead of mbappe ,please explain that
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:00pm On Dec 15, 2022
chrisooblog:
Me sef weak same Griezzmann that didn't win spoon for France before the arrival of Mbappe is now indispensable?
Griezman didnt win spoon for France before mbappe doesn’t mean griezman wasn’t the best player at the 2018 World Cup

You simply have no point ,we are talking about the 2018 World Cup and here you are talking about griezman not winning anything for France the previous years

Griezman was the second best player at the 2018 World Cup behind modric ,and he even scored same goals with mbappe ,but we should praise one and discard one because of the previous years

Griezman won the best player at the euro 2016 despite loosing against Portugal at the finals ,but we should discard his performance for the national team because they won nothing till mbappe came

Una don carry this una super eagles thinking Dey judge European football grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 3:07pm On Dec 15, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Remove griezman France won’t win the 2018 World Cup

Remove pogba France won’t win the 2018 World Cup

I Dey watch ball egbon ,no sentiments here .

Someone that won the silver ball na him you wan commot

As much as I will love to say Messi is carrying this Argentina team ,if you remove players like otamendi Julian Alvarez they might not even be at the finals
Oga relax

Griezeman doesn’t hold a candle when compared to mbappe in 2018 till date since 2018 there’s never been a year where griezeman is better than mbappe both for club and country

Griezeman is a dispensable asset
Mbappe is a national treasure that’s how it is.

Griezeman is a failure and has always been until 2018 when mbappe showed him the limelight.

Ask the entire world who to drop out of the French squad griezeman or mbappe and you’ll have your answer.

Aside from Lionel Messi and Chris

Nobody is on the same stratosphere as mbappe.

Big game player
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:09pm On Dec 15, 2022
typicalgamer:
Oga relax

Griezeman doesn’t hold a candle when compared to mbappe in 2018 till date since 2018 there’s never been a year where griezeman is better than mbappe both for club and country

Griezeman is a dispensable asset
Mbappe is a national treasure that’s how it is.

Griezeman is a failure and has always been until 2018 when mbappe showed him the limelight.

Ask the entire world who to drop out of the French squad griezeman or mbappe and you’ll have your answer.

Aside from Lionel Messi and Chris

Nobody is on the same stratosphere as mbappe.

Big game player
I am not comparing mbappe to griezman

But for the 2018 World Cup griezman was better ,that’s my point .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 3:10pm On Dec 15, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Griezman didnt win spoon for France before mbappe doesn’t mean griezman wasn’t the best player at the 2018 World Cup

You simply have no point ,we are talking about the 2018 World Cup and here you are talking about griezman not winning anything for France the previous years

Griezman was the second best player at the 2018 World Cup behind modric ,and he even scored same goals with mbappe ,but we should praise one and discard one because of the previous years

Griezman won the best player at the euro 2016 despite loosing against Portugal at the finals ,but we should discard his performance for the national team because they won nothing till mbappe came

Una don carry this una super eagles thinking Dey judge European football grin
Nothing like that oga

Fraud like am he was carried in World Cup na make Barca smart go sign am thinking he’s a good player

Omo that guy na fraud king of fraud
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 3:11pm On Dec 15, 2022
andrewbaba44:
I am not comparing mbappe to griezman

But for the 2018 World Cup griezman was better ,that’s my point .
never

I’ll never agree to this
If i watch only highlights I might
But watching all France matches live

Mbappe is king he’s the prince that was promised.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:11pm On Dec 15, 2022
Chief you're the one who is capping unnecessarily.

Ok Griezzman is the best show us international trophy pre-Mbappe you begin dey shalaye.

And I'm not just judging based on goals for instance we all know Henry outscored Zidane at international tournaments but nobody will say Zidane wasn't at the heart of their success because the record of France with Henry without Zidane in international tournaments is apalling.

andrewbaba44:
The giroud talk was surely a joke

So because griezman was at the 2014 cup and they didn’t win it means mbappe was the one carrying the team ,please make this make sense oga ,can you even listen to yourself ?

Wetin consign person performance for 2014 World Cup and Wetin e play for 2018 World Cup ?

Why was griezman the French best player at 2018 ahead of mbappe ,please explain that
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 3:12pm On Dec 15, 2022
andrewbaba44:
I am not comparing mbappe to griezman

But for the 2018 World Cup griezman was better ,that’s my point .
Remove modric
From the picture

Who do you think was next in line to win the golden ball ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:14pm On Dec 15, 2022
chrisooblog:
Chief you're the one who is capping unnecessarily.

Ok Griezzman is the best show us international trophy pre-Mbappe you begin dey shalaye.

And I'm not just judging based on goals for instance we all know Henry outscored Zidane at international tournaments but nobody will say Zidane wasn't at the heart of their success because the record of France with Henry without Zidane in international tournaments is apalling.
I can easily ask you where is mbappe international trophy without griezman ,so no go that kind beer parlour arguement

Griezman winning his first international trophy with mbappe doesn’t mean mbappe carried him there

For the last time ,why was griezman the French best player at the 2018 World Cup ? Stop running away from this question
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:14pm On Dec 15, 2022
ChrisKels:
How do Ivorians do this? Even from the most obscure leagues, the biggest clubs in the world still sort after their talents. This one now is about to join Chelsea from Molde.
because they hv more serious minded players who are ready to work hard to improve their game unlike our players who once they get signed to any European club they become too lazy and lackadaisical with no hunger to improve in order to attract bigger deals

No be our own maestro wey since em leave for Europe over 6 seasons ago but yet to achieve anything tangible na wey we Dey here dey hype and make excuses for every year? cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:14pm On Dec 15, 2022
typicalgamer:
never

I’ll never agree to this
If i watch only highlights I might
But watching all France matches live

Mbappe is king he’s the prince that was promised.
One won the silver ball behind Modric and came 3rd at the ballon d or

I rest my case
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by COOL10(m): 3:15pm On Dec 15, 2022
typicalgamer:
Griezeman hasn’t been the best players for France in about 10years now he’s never been the best player playing wise or statistically.

All he did on 2018 was prey on pk that mbappe caused there’s absolutely nothing to his name.

If pogba and kante well fully those guys would be doing griezeman job but at a higher quality.

He’s improved 1million times since 2018

But let’s not get carried away griezeman is not a proven big game player if he doesn’t have mbappe carrying the attack France would be dead on the water.

Would you put hope on hot/cold dembele or loose ball specialist like giroud.

Or injury merchant like Coman ?

Griezeman has never been the focal point on any team. He’s improved greatly since dropping from attack but let’s not get carried away sir
Lol.

Like I said earlier, na media hype dey cause all these things.

You say Kante and Pogba can easily do Griezmann's job but can you please lay out their stats here? They've not even done half of what Griezmann has done. How many assists have they had? How many big chances have they created? How many goals have they scored?

Griezmann has the highest number of assists in the history of French National Team football (28 assists). He's higher than both Thierry Henry and Zidane.

Griezmann is the 3rd highest goal scorer for France (42 goals) only behind Giroud and Henry.

This is the guy you say is not a proven big game player?

Let's not forget that club football performance is different from national football performance.

Once Griezmann puts on blue, he turns into a beast. Griezmann is a different animal entirely when playing for France. Don't get it twisted.

Remove Griezmann from France and watch it fall.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:15pm On Dec 15, 2022
typicalgamer:
Nothing like that oga

Fraud like am he was carried in World Cup na make Barca smart go sign am thinking he’s a good player

Omo that guy na fraud king of fraud
He is a fraud ,but how far this World Cup ,he has been one of the best player or not grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:17pm On Dec 15, 2022
typicalgamer:
Remove modric
From the picture

Who do you think was next in line to win the golden ball ?
You mean at the 2018 World Cup ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:20pm On Dec 15, 2022
grin Griezzmann without Mbappe no win jack but he's the best. I'm sure if Pogba and Kante were in this squad you would have said Kylian is benefiting from their hard work.

andrewbaba44:
I can easily ask you where is mbappe international trophy without griezman ,so no go that kind beer parlour arguement

Griezman winning his first international trophy with mbappe doesn’t mean mbappe carried him there

For the last time ,why was griezman the French best player at the 2018 World Cup ? Stop running away from this question
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by COOL10(m): 3:25pm On Dec 15, 2022
Danielnino00:
They must have taken the lasers with them to Water, but dared not use it... Aside FIFA being strict, they won't want to show the world their dirty side like that ... Egyptian fans on social media mocked Senegal when they crashed out calling them a laser team.. Obviously,they are still pained that Senegal had to balls to repay them in their own coin..

That being said, none of these things will change anytime soon.. North Africans hold a lot of key positions in CAF...na Dem dey run things... They don't need CAF presidency to do that... Morocco will host 2024 WAFCON,and I'm very sure they will win it
Hmmmm... Africa is just so messed up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:26pm On Dec 15, 2022
chrisooblog:
grin Griezzmann without Mbappe no win jack but he's the best. I'm sure if Pogba and Kante were in this squad you would have said Kylian is benefiting from their hard work.
I can easily say mbappe won nothing without griezman also ,but I ain’t here for agenda like you

You can drag benzema with national team ,but you see griezman ? No near there
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:29pm On Dec 15, 2022
What can be bigger than the final of the 2016 Euros in front of your home fans against a Ronaldo less Portugal but baba still choke

COOL10:
Lol.

Like I said earlier, na media hype dey cause all these things.

You say Kante and Pogba can easily do Griezmann's job but can you please lay out their stats here? They've not even done half of what Griezmann has done. How many assists have they had? How many big chances have they created? How many goals have they scored?

Griezmann has the highest number of assists in the history of French National Team football (28 assists). He's higher than both Thierry Henry and Zidane.

Griezmann is the 3rd highest goal scorer for France (42 goals) only behind Giroud and Henry.

This is the guy you say is not a proven big game player?

Let's not forget that club football performance is different from national football performance.

Once Griezmann puts on blue, he turns into a beast. Griezmann is a different animal entirely when playing for France. Don't get it twisted.

Remove Griezmann from France and watch it fall.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 3:29pm On Dec 15, 2022
andrewbaba44:
You mean at the 2018 World Cup ?
Yeah yeah
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 3:31pm On Dec 15, 2022
andrewbaba44:
He is a fraud ,but how far this World Cup ,he has been one of the best player or not grin
Go back and read my previous comments about griezeman.

Since leaving Barca that man has made 360 turnaround for the better
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