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TheGoodJoe:
The point is development. The point is about team growth. A team that can keep the ball well will have to develop the next step, converting their possession to chances.

Now in our case, we can't even keep the ball, let alone have purpose with it.

So, we need to work on fixing our poor ball keeping by working towards the right composition of players.

komekn:
Nigeria has remembered him that song, "Know me when I'm poor , not when I'm rich" comes to mind.

After inviting Eberechi Eze to the SE March 2017 we forgot he existed, there was a chance to invite him to several friendlies including the inconsequential Athletico Madrid game but we didn't.

Now he has blown , we have finally remembered him. Actually Rohr was very keen to invite him but was not able to.

TheSuperNerd:
Like the Midfield, like the Defence.



The above scenario also applies to the Defense. Not just the midfield.

If a few good legs outside the top leagues can still help fix our Defensive issues and also raise the passing quality of our buildup plays from the back, then we should not ignore them all because their club names don't sound sweet to the tongue.

TheSuperNerd:
Ofcoz little attention-seeking nobodies like you call that dissection. Did you even bother looking thoroughly at my first response? Ofcoz you didn't. You are only concerned with anyone who just has an opposing view to Nerdie coz you hate Nerdie.

My first response still stands. No need to repeat myself as he practically said nothing substantial.

Your guy just dropped a bunch of irrelevant epistles... so there was no need replying such nonsense but just pick one of the many misinformations he dropped.



You guys won't know anything but will stubbornly persist with misinformation hidden in long irrelevant talks and call it "Dissection". Loolll...


By the way, Why are you so Obsessed With quoting me even when it got nothing to do with you? You always do it, you certified perv.

Always the "cock-fluffer" running in to get a piece of an action that doesn't need it. Lol

Get a life, Mr. Nothing.

Quoting me in here to spill nonsense everytime shouldn't be your life purpose.

elyte89:
U shld knw Charles by now,once u re not playing in d top 6 elite European leagues...if u like score 1000goals,u no sabi be dt

And dt has been nerdie and philosophy preaching here dt we shld start looking beyond where dis guys play alone but also look at what u will bring differently to d team irrespective of where u play

But baba charles no go gree, I heard Croatia keeper sef ,plays in deir local league and look at aw good he’s in dis tournament

mostob:
Ranting as usual. Empty vessel

TheGoodJoe:
That is why it boils down to comprehensive scouting. We need to develop a thorough way to search and pick players with the right attributes.

We also need to take our age grade programs more seriously. Stop cutting corners.

Good Footballers are not only in the quality leagues in Europe.

We need to appreciate Keshi's mindset, where the likes of Oboabona and a young Omeruo helped us clinch the AFCON.

We need to remember how Keshi scouted Aaron Samuel from China.

However, it has to do with the scouting team having the eye to site gems. Just like Westerhof saw Amokachi playing for Ranchers Bees as a 16 years old and new he found a quality talent.

How Babawo Mohammed saw Mikel playing on the street and took him to Kashimawo Laloko and Laloko called Mikel (a teenager in secondary school) the best player in the country.

We need to scout comprehensively and not wait for players to breakthrough in clubs in Europe.

Blueelf:
I even think Ekong's time in the national team has come to an end

I really don't see what he offers us that other players don't

Danielnino00:
Awazeim has been far better than Akpos in the GWG, truth be told...
In fact, Awazeim has mostly been decent in the GWG.. Seems like playing in Croatia is the problem you have with him...

komekn:
There are always exceptions to the rule, such as JJay , Mikel Obi. But they are not the rule but exception.

Morocco succeeded beyond all expectations because they welcomed in players of Moroccon heritage from across Europe.

They gave them a sense of belonging they didn't ask them for Bribe and inducement. Mbappe tried to play for Cameroon but they wanted inducement. That disappointed experience turned out to be a huge blessing in disguise.

If you go right back maybe 4/5 seasons ago ,l talked about my friend Michael Beale, he was the u12 development lead at Liverpool FC academy. He was formerly the assistant manager at Sao Paulo Brazil. Before he took up that position.

Why would a club invest so much resources in youth football. Without development talent will come to NOTHING.

After the age of 13 it becomes very difficult to teach and ingrain naturally technical skills, First touch, key movements, anticipation, dribbling, passing range, etc, etc

If you think that what happened in the past in Nigeria you can replicate it for competitive advantage now. Then you are out of touch with reality.

If I took you to see some of the current U12/13 players in Chelsea, you go open mouth . Without that level of good quality coaching your talent will not develop.

komekn:
There are always exceptions to the rule, such as JJay , Mikel Obi. But they are not the rule but exception.

Morocco succeeded beyond all expectations because they welcomed in players of Moroccon heritage from across Europe.

They gave them a sense of belonging they didn't ask them for Bribe and inducement. Mbappe tried to play for Cameroon but they wanted inducement. That disappointed experience turned out to be a huge blessing in disguise.

If you go right back maybe 4/5 seasons ago ,l talked about my friend Michael Beale, he was the u12 development lead at Liverpool FC academy. He was formerly the assistant manager at Sao Paulo Brazil. Before he took up that position.

Why would a club invest so much resources in youth football. Without development talent will come to NOTHING.

After the age of 13 it becomes very difficult to teach and ingrain naturally technical skills, First touch, key movements, anticipation, dribbling, passing range, etc, etc

If you think that what happened in the past in Nigeria you can replicate it for competitive advantage now. Then you are out of touch with reality.

If I took you to see some of the current U12/13 players in Chelsea, you go open mouth . Without that level of good quality coaching your talent will not develop.

komekn:
There are always exceptions to the rule, such as JJay , Mikel Obi. But they are not the rule but exception.

Morocco succeeded beyond all expectations because they welcomed in players of Moroccon heritage from across Europe.

They gave them a sense of belonging they didn't ask them for Bribe and inducement. Mbappe tried to play for Cameroon but they wanted inducement. That disappointed experience turned out to be a huge blessing in disguise.

If you go right back maybe 4/5 seasons ago ,l talked about my friend Michael Beale, he was the u12 development lead at Liverpool FC academy. He was formerly the assistant manager at Sao Paulo Brazil. Before he took up that position.

Why would a club invest so much resources in youth football. Without development talent will come to NOTHING.

After the age of 13 it becomes very difficult to teach and ingrain naturally technical skills, First touch, key movements, anticipation, dribbling, passing range, etc, etc

If you think that what happened in the past in Nigeria you can replicate it for competitive advantage now. Then you are out of touch with reality.

If I took you to see some of the current U12/13 players in Chelsea, you go open mouth . Without that level of good quality coaching your talent will not develop.

Blueelf:
Lolll

We both know that even if they make it 64 teams, Eyimba and co with their corruption ridden league and poor tactical play won't make it

charlesemeka85:
baba forget nacho abeg

TheGoodJoe:
That is why it boils down to comprehensive scouting. We need to develop a thorough way to search and pick players with the right attributes.

We also need to take our age grade programs more seriously. Stop cutting corners.

Good Footballers are not only in the quality leagues in Europe.

We need to appreciate Keshi's mindset, where the likes of Oboabona and a young Omeruo helped us clinch the AFCON.

We need to remember how Keshi scouted Aaron Samuel from China.

However, it has to do with the scouting team having the eye to site gems. Just like Westerhof saw Amokachi playing for Ranchers Bees as a 16 years old and new he found a quality talent.

How Babawo Mohammed saw Mikel playing on the street and took him to Kashimawo Laloko and Laloko called Mikel (a teenager in secondary school) the best player in the country.

We need to scout comprehensively and not wait for players to breakthrough in clubs in Europe.

Marjoribanks:
We have scouted comprehensively and continue to do so. Our under 17 and 20 are current WAFU Champions. The two teams that will play in the final tomorrow took players playing in the top leagues. Tomorrow the best player won't be someone playing in division 2 or non league football somewhere. It would be someone playing in Laliga or the French league. Chukweze, Oshimen, Simon, Onachu, Onyedika, Onyeka, Sanusi, Awoniyi, Dennis, Moffi, Iheanacho, Success. and many more were scouted too. So I don't understand your point?

TheSuperNerd:
Just too much talk. No substance. Just deliberately moving away from the central focus to things not relevant to the discourse. Just trying so hard.
In the end, you got more information from me than you could handle.

How did you misinform anyone? Here's one example....

Your claiming Garrincha missed the last game due to Injury when he was actually dropped for still injured Pele in 1966 in the last group game.

The FIFA article below laughs at you

That is just how Special Pele is. A 25% fit Pele was still far more dangerous than any other Brazillian in sight.

Pele was major key to their 1958 and 1970 WC triumphs. Facts. He was part of their success in 1962 but Garrincha was the main man in Pele's injury induced absence. Also facts. Two facts can co-exist but you won't know that ofcos.

Just all talk, no direction. Lol

Again, you are welcome. No one is entitled to Ignorance.

Meliforme:
When it comes to managing oneself in and out of tight spaces, Chidera Ejuke, is the best i have seen in the entire crop of S.E players. The ability to handle oneself in tight spaces without losing the ball and good ball passing skills is vital to keeping a team's ball possession.

No S.E forward is better than Ejuke in terms of passing skills. Imagine that Aribo and Ndidi that are used as midfielders don't possess Ejuke's passing skills. I have seen Ejuke handle himself out of tight spaces and then switch the current play with a long ball.

In the last AFCON, Ejuke started only one game and was not in the match day squad for our last game against Tunisia.
Something is definitely wrong somewhere

TheSuperNerd:
The Empty is you, Mr Perv. Always has been You. Rest good with that knowledge.

mostob:
You need to get married asap or find yourself a girl cos it's obvious my indirect compliment is still worrying you.

benji93:
Thank you for making this simple. I want everyone here to pay close attention. The snippet you posted tells us that Garrincha was dropped and Pele brought back in. Facts. Obviously, Garrincha played the second game, so that word would be suitable. But they didn't mention why it was done. This is not unusual. You don't always capture every detail in an article. Articles are usually written with a theme in mind. The reader also selects articles based on what he's looking for.
I actually mentioned in my previous post that Garrincha was injured even before the tournament. It's in his biography, but you elected to ignore it or you didn't just know. I go for the latter. . And it's ok.
The link and first snippet tell us why he was dropped. You are welcome. .

Meanwhile, I also posed a challenge. Please provide the information that you have that isn't on the internet and evidence for it. As a senior researcher, you would agree with me that these kinds of conversations are usually more fruitful when they are fact-based. .

My point is there's no information you can provide that isn't on the internet. There are loads of articles on those Brazilian sides. And it's very likely no one has read them all. It's ok. Everyone can learn from anyone, even those some would classify as 'dumb'.

Even with the same facts, experts may disagree on what it means. It's ok. More like we agree to disagree.

By the way, I don't understand why you constantly resort to jabs and insults. Nobody really knows anybody here.
Just enjoy yourself.
https://www.unusualefforts.com/portugal-brazil-1966/

komekn:
No he has not, he plays as makeshift wing back with no pace.

Every league he has played in he has been essentially basic to below average then you want to convince me that he gets to national team and then he becomes Van Dyke.

There is a reason he is playing in the lowly Croatia league he is simply not good enough for a better league.

Marjoribanks:
Ejuke can switch play with long balls? You must be related to him. The boy got his chance at AFCON and misused it. The only game he started he was the worst player on the field. He played against CAR and Cape Verde away what special stuffs did he offer? You will play a player that dribble unnecessary and lose balls in dangerous area in the middle? Thank God you are no where near the SE bench!

benji93:
Did he play in the last game or not? They roughed him up blablabla. That one na shalaye. . As the researcher extraordinaire, did you not know that Garrincha was injured in 1966 too? He did not play the last game, and they lost. Pele missed the second, they lost, and Garrincha missed the last and they lost.

TheSuperNerd:
This is the thing with trying to sound so smart. I narrowed it down using your own article below. Now, where exactly in your article does it state that Garrincha was unavailable for that game through Injury?

You said he missed the third game because of injury. That is what your original stance said. Now you shift it to before the tournament. Your article shows he wasn't still nursing that injury. He had recovered but was not at the same level. Guy wasn't Injured. That is the whole point.

It even clearly states asks the question about why the coach didn't bring on Garrincha... proving his availability.

But then there goes that Garrincha question.... you are unaware that Substitutions weren't allowed at the 1966 WC? It was clearly stated by me and mentioned in some of the articles I shared.

Fifa themselves recount this very Match and say Garrincha was available but dropped. He couldn't be brought on because Subs were not allowed.

Your own article spoke about Garrincha's state before the WC in England NOT During the WC in England. His alcoholism, his jail issues, his injury, all were before the WC in England. He started the tournament.

Garrincha played the 1st game. Played the 2nd game. And was dropped for the 3rd game. He was on the bench.

In a bid to stand by your misinformation, You simply couldn't understand what you even posted. Garrincha didn't miss the game because of injury, he did because he was simply dropped. That is what your article insinuates rightly.

Again, you are welcome. You got owned by your own article even after I made it so simple for you.

benji93:
Are you kidding me? I don't provide information I don't need. The fact that I didn't bring the issue of 'no substitutions' up doesn't mean I don't know. Sorry, I don't just dump information to make others think I know a lot. It's not useful. It's not my way.

Simple question. Does the article say he was injured even prior to the tournament? I usually don't cut articles short to reflect my point specifically, because I want everyone to follow the context. I have now attached the specific section. They list a host of issues Garirncha had, including meniscus and tendon tears, and went further to say that not even surgery could bring him back to a decent level. Very simple.

I wrote this in my second post. I have no idea why you missed it. Was it intentional?
'Na you suppose do research now. His biography says he was injured going into that tournament. They kick Garrincha all the time too. The guy na dribbler. I am not sure why the 'they kicked him' argument is useful here. They kick normal players not to talk of transcendental players.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrincha'

Meliforme:
We went to the last AFCON with a midfielder that can cross the ball, and guess what: he started only one game.
Something is definitely wrong somewhere

TheSuperNerd:
And that one game this midfielder started was the best midfield display of the Afcon by our team earlier this year but the same Nigerian fans deny it and tell you the lad is useless. Lol

Meli... the problem also extends to the fans. They don't want the truth.

Marjoribanks:
Ejuke can switch play with long balls? You must be related to him. The boy got his chance at AFCON and misused it. The only game he started he was the worst player on the field. He played against CAR and Cape Verde away what special stuffs did he offer? You will play a player that dribble unnecessary and lose balls in dangerous area in the middle? Thank God you are no where near the SE bench!