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Speaklove:
Atheists have no foundation
They have no structure on which to base their belief

Theists also has no foundation, they are confused, and base their beliefs in different gods.

What’s the belief of atheists?

Speaklove:
Atheists have no foundation
They have no structure on which to base their belief

Exactly! We have no foundation or structure to base a belief in any god on. You are very correct.

Speaklove:
Atheists have no foundation
They have no structure on which to base their belief

This is not true. Every thing living in this world is based on land

Therefore the atheists base is on the ground of Natural Rights to say rubbish.

Dtruthspeaker:
This is not true. Every thing living in this world is based on land

Therefore the atheists base is on the ground of Natural Rights to say rubbish.

Is this a rhetorical statement or what ?

Dtruthspeaker:
This is not true. Every thing living in this world is based on land

Therefore the atheists base is on the ground of Natural Rights to say rubbish.

How can the the thing living in water be based on land? LoLz.

LordReed:
How can the the thing living in water be based on land? LoLz.

Water stands on land not on air.

Speaklove:
Is this a rhetorical statement or what ?

There was no question in my post.

Dtruthspeaker:
Water stands on land not on air.

Not even your bible makes this kind of distorted reasoning. LoLz.

LordReed:
Not even your bible makes this kind of distorted reasoning. LoLz.

Because your reason is distorted completely by evil that you can not see what is in front of you that there is no need reasoning with devils like you.

Dtruthspeaker:
Because your reason is distorted completely by evil that you can not see what is in front of you that there is no need reasoning with devils like you.

Naa, yours is the distorted reasoning here. Even your bible says the sea creatures came from water so I dunno how you twisted your reasoning so thoroughly.

LordReed:
Naa, yours is the distorted reasoning here. Even your bible says the sea creatures came from water so I dunno how you twisted your reasoning so thoroughly.

Change of post! We ain't talking about sea creatures coming from water

Dtruthspeaker:
Change of post! We ain't talking about sea creatures coming from water

That is exactly what we are talking about.

LordReed:
That is exactly what we are talking about.

The records says you are a liar.

LordReed:
How can the the thing living in water be based on land? LoLz.

"Water stands on land not on air."

(Another useless endless somersaulting until you are the last to respond)

Dtruthspeaker:
The records says you are a liar.



"Water stands on land not on air."

(Another useless endless somersaulting until you are the last to respond)

So what if water stands on land, are the fish in the water land based? Continue your dummy logic for all to see now. LMFAO!

LordReed:
So what if water stands on land, are the fish in the water land based? Continue your dummy logic for all to see now. LMFAO!

Aquarium and fish bowls have shown that fishes in water are standing on land, even though the fish is still in water, therefore land based.

You really have nothing valid to say as usual.

Dtruthspeaker:
Aquarium and fish bowls have shown that fishes in water are standing on land, even though the fish is still in water, therefore land based.

You really have nothing valid to say as usual.

LMFAO! Chai!

LordReed:
LMFAO! Chai!

I've had my phone fixed.


Can we chat on WhatsApp?

Was busy with work .
Coming back soon by God's willing

Morning

Good morning friends

The spirit of atheism is a spirit of deception

Speaklove:
Atheists have no foundation
They have no structure on which to base their belief

Atheism is not a belief. The structure of religion is man made stories and writings that requires you to put aside rationality to believe in.

Everyone is born an atheist, then they get indoctrinated into a particular religion... and some people successfully un-indoctrinate themselves.

Heathen777:
Atheism is not a belief. The structure of religion is man made stories and writings that requires you to put aside rationality to believe in.

Everyone is born an atheist, then they get indoctrinated into a particular religion... and some people successfully un-indoctrinate themselves.

what you call nonsense,another may call rationality.

HellVictorinho7:
what you call nonsense,another may call rationality.

It is not nonsense because I think It's nonsense, it is nonsence because it is unscientific, filled with errors, and contradictions.

Heathen777:
It is not nonsense because I think It's nonsense, it is nonsence because it is unscientific, filled with errors, and contradictions.

WHAT WE CALL ERROR,THEY MAY CALL CORRECT. WE DON'T JUST FIND IT AS THEY DO. END UR DEBATE, WE CAN'T CHANGE HOW THEY FIND IT. ONLY CHANCE CAN.

The nations will sing your praise my lover-jesus

Behold !
I have given you as a light to the world that you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth - says the Lord .

Speaklove:
A discussion between a theist and an atheist :

THE TESTIMONY OF A FREED MAN : TWO KINGDOMS ONE SOUL.

PAGE ~26 : THE DIVINE KNOWLEDGE .

Few minutes After the angry philosopher left ;
Someone walked close to me from behind and said "don't mind that foolish, and mad fellow !
He talks like a drunk mad man ;
He claims to use his mind but lives in self-delusion ."

Please stop !
I think that is not polite at all .
(I replied)

A man should be call wath he truly is my friend ; and I think that guy is a fool .
But with the way you spoke I'm afraid he has succeeded in deceiving you .

So if you chose to speak this way how do one defines you yourself ?

I am a freethinker .

But he claimed to be the same as yourself
(I replied)

What do you mean by that .

He also walks after the dictates of his own heart like yourself .
(I replied)

No he is a philosopher ,I am not .

But you are the same.
(I claimed )

Stop insulting me please I said we are different ,do you understand .

Ehm ...
I am sorry for speaking rashly
(She apologized)

(Then I took cognizance that I was actually speaking with a woman this time .)

THE WOMAN : Hmm .
So where are you heading to ?

ME: I am on my way to Eden ( I said shamefully )

THE WOMAN: on your way to Eden ?
In this twenty first century ?
Is it the same Eden I read about in some strange man made scriptures or some other place called Eden in this modern time ?

ME: Hmm ....
Y, yy,yy yes !
that one ( i stammered with a shamed face )

THE WOMAN: Ah !
You mean the Eden where Adam was claimed to have come from ?

ME: Ye, yyes !
That one (I replied with my gaze on the ground )

Hahahaha (she laughed )
Ah !
Religion has finished this one ooooooo
(she exclaimed)
Poor soul (she cried and and dropped a sigh )

THE WOMAN : So, Mr Eden-goer
What are you going there to do in Eden ?

ME: Ehm .
I'm going there to meet God .

THE WOMAN: God ?
Which God ?
What is it that you want from this so-called God that man can't do for you or you can't do for yourself ?

ME: Ehm ehm ehm ( I struggled for words )
(This lady would mock the hell out of me if i should tell her the truth .
Would she understand if I tell her what it is ?)
(I thought )

(Maybe you should tell her , you shouldn't judge a book merely by its cover ,what if she's got the cure to your problem )
( another though suggested )

or am I too harsh on you mister ?
(she asked ,and awoke me from my thoughts )

ME: Ehm ,actually ,actually ................


THE WOMAN: Actually what ?
Or you don't know where you are even going to ?
You must be a confused fellow

ME: No !
I am not confused ,And know where I am going to .
I am going to ask God to give me drink from the river of life and to give me food from the tree of life .
( I yelled out in anger having felt insulted by this unmannered lady )

THE WOMAN: You see !
I know which button to press to make you speak out ,and now I knew that idiot has deceived you indeed or you ended up deceiving each other .

(Then I knew she intentionally spoke the way she did just to force me speak out the hidden thoughts of my mind .
but now it's to late to be ashame.
I'm gonna give it to her raw has it is without without minding the consequences)
(I THOUGHT)


What is wrong with what I have said for God sake ?
(I asked the lady )

THE WOMAN: Everything !
Everything is totally wrong with what you've said for the sake of not using your brain .
Can't you get water to drink from these rivers by the road side ?
Are these not fruit to eat from
(she said pointing to the trees on the way side )
You want to go meet your sky daddy .
I wonder how you will get to this your delusional Eden talk less of meeting one fake God that is a product of human imaginations .

ME: those trees don't have any fruit that can deal with my hunger ,neither can the waters from these rivers quench my thirst .

THE WOMAN: How come ?
Are you different from others who have drank from those rivers and are satisfied ?
Or are you more human than those who ate from the fruits of these trees ?
You are just a self- righteous fellow .
(She accused me )


ME: No not at all .
it's just that there is an unexplainable hunger ,and thirst withing my spirit ,that I can't explain .

THE WOMAN: Your spirit ?
Man has no spirit .
MAN is COMPLETELY made off flesh ,so only you know what spirit you are talking about .

ME: You see !
I knew beforehand that you wouldn't understand what I'm going through;
I perceived from the very beginning that you're not spiritual ,but whoever is spiritual discerns all things .

THE WOMAN: Nothing like Spirituality my friend !
You are simply an uneducated slowpoke .
just take off your mind from these spiritual things and you would be fine .

ME: is taking off my mind the same as taking off reality ?

THE WOMAN: Yeah I love the word "reality "
Reality are things that are real not some man made spiritual stuff having no visible evidences .

ME: What do you mean by man made ?
Are these notions of yours not man made ?
Or were they from God ?
And by what criterion did you arrived at what definition reality should assumed ?

THE WOMAN: My claims are man made but self -checked ,and freely accepted.
But yours are man -made ,demands for faith ,and are forcefully accepted.
they ain't even real because you can't prove them .
You can't !

ME: What do you want me to prove ?

THE WOMAN: prove that man was created by God and let's see !

ME: What proves do you still need ?

THE WOMAN: What prove have you given ?

ME: from where did man got all the knowledge he has ?
Who taught man to live and behaves differently from the animals ?
Why is man's system of thinking different from all other species ? .
Why is it that even though man is the most intelligent VISIBLE being on earth yet he is limited in all things and depends on others to live comfortable ?
If he is the God of himself why didn't he modify himself into a more sophisticated being.

THE WOMAN: Everything you've said are claims my foolish friend .
You are yet to give me one single proof that man was created by a God .

ME: Okay if man was not created by God who created him then ?

THE WOMAN Have you not been to school before ?
Haven't they taught you on the the bing bang or on the subject of evolution ?

ME: That is also a mere claim and no evident for that .

THE WOMAN: But that is science ,and science has been able to provide proofs for many of its claims .

ME: is that science ?
that is human philosophy ,and human opinion .

No it is science (she argued)

what is the meaning of the word "SCIENCES ?"
(I asked )

well it means "KNOWLEDGE "
(She replied)

ME: so if what you've said is science
Then what I said earlier is also science which means knowledge .
The difference is : One is human knowledge ,and the other is divine knowledge.

THE WOMAN: but through that so-called human knowledge
Many inventions has been made ,and many lives have been changed if you don't know ,
But what has your divine knowledge done for humanity ?

ME: Through the divine knowledge of God all things that pertain to life and godliness has been given .(I replied)

Pertain to live and godliness !

What things is it that pertains to life and godliness ? (She asked )

ME: Well I would say you should guess what it could be ?

THE WOMAN: Money ,car houses ,children ,great family inheritance ,fame ,a spouse .

Are those What you think pertains to life and godliness ? ( I ASKED )

THE WOMAN: What is this life that you are talking about that I do not have already ?
I am alive already as you can see
What I don't have is your so called godliness


so you agree that you are not godly?
(I ASKED HER )

yes I do !
Yes I am not godly (SHE AFFIRMED )

So if you are not godly what do you think you are ? (I ASKED )

THE WOMAN: I am humane

You are Humane ?
How do you define being humane ? (I ASKED )

THE WOMAN : What do you mean ?
What are you trying to say ?

ME: What is your definition of being humane ?

THE WOMAN: Caring ,and showing concern for other of course .

ME: how would you define caring for others ?

THE WOMAN : Are you saying you don't know what caring for others means ?

ME: I know for myself but your own definition might differ from mine ?

THE WOMAN: Why do you say so ?

ME: if we differ in believes I think it is possible that we differ in thoughts .

THE WOMAN: Well it's Just me and you .

ME: No it's you and a lot of people apart from Myself . (I argued )

THE WOMAN: Meaning ?


ME: Many people would disagree with whatever anyone would say no natter what it is or who says it ,even though it might be the truth .

THE WOMAN: So who judges us , who Is it that would moderate on all things .

ME: God !
God is the judge .
Humans differs and argue because they understand how limited a human mind can be so they find it hard to maintain a truth without looking for a superior truth .
But with God lies the truth of all truth .

THE WOMAN:
What is this truth of all truth ?
What do you mean by that ?

ME: Divine knowledge !
Divine knowledge is the knowledge that is Superior to all other kinds of knowledge .

Divine knowledge ?
What exactly is this divine knowledge ?
(SHE ASKED )

ME: It is knowing God and acknowledging him .

THE WOMAN : Why should I know God ?

ME: Why should a child knows it father ?

THE WOMAN: Why shoud a child not know its father ?

ME: Why should man not know God ?

THE WOMAN: Why should man know God ?

ME: Why should a man not know is origin ?

THE WOMAN: What is the origin of man ?

ME: He was created by a supreme ,and spiritual being called God .

THE WOMAN: How do you know that ?

ME: It is divine knowledge ,and that is why you also should have it

Divine knowledge !
Hmm .
I think I would turn and stop this journey
(SHE SAID )

Stop to go where ? (I ASKED )

( She turned and went away sorrowing )
And said "I want to go find out the truth about this divine knowledge you've talked about
And as she went I saw written on her back the word "ATHEIST ."

I knew it !
I knew she must be an atheist
(I said to myself and Continued with my journey )


This was shared from my story
https://www.nairaland.com/7089772/testimony-freed-man-two-kingdoms

How do you know u were created by a god?

jaephoenix:
How do you know u were created by a god?

Romans 1:20
[20]There are things about God that people cannot see—his eternal power and all that makes him God. But since the beginning of the world, those things have been easy for people to understand. They are made clear in what God has made. So people have no excuse for the evil they do.

Speaklove:
Romans 1:20
[20]There are things about God that people cannot see—his eternal power and all that makes him God. But since the beginning of the world, those things have been easy for people to understand. They are made clear in what God has made. So people have no excuse for the evil they do.

Allah says he created everything and its recorded in the Qoran too. Why don't you believe him but believe Yhwh?