I never knew that there were so many atheist ,agnostics and the likes in this nation until I joined this forum .

the rate with which people were leaving religion behind is alarming .
but much more the way the
sons of men were finding their way back to their true creature is super-alarming (in the sense that mighty and powerful encounters with God were taking place around the world .
God is giving the devil a run for his money .

as many Dared to bare out the boiling pot they've been hiding by coming out as atheist ,agnostic and idolators and the likes;
even so many were also ushered daily into the camp of God.
not withstanding:
I find it shocking and suprising that anyone would ever come to the conclusion that there is no God -
or let's say -"the universe and all within it has no creator."
its even more weird and amazing how a human by an act of a so-called "intellectual reasoning " would come to the conclusion and culmination that his or her existence is in no way an act of a higher force or entity .

truth can not be known by ONLY reasoning or merely exercising one's brain ,but ALSO by inspiration or revelation .
the truth about god can not be arrived at or known by psychological reasoning but by inspiration through spiritual meditation or revelation.

some philosophers (philosophy begat science) once believed and taught that "the earth was flat."
if philosophy is the only or one of the sources to trust for accurate information (at that time) then the philosophers who declared such were right ,and the people who agreed ,concured and upheld that as truth were also right .

but with the progression of time new minds came up ,and new research were conducted by scientists of the following dispensation ,and these came to the conclusion that the earth is circle or orbit in shape .
so now if science is to be held as a reliable and trustworthy source for accurate data then the scientists of today are accurate and those who believed in that assertion also did well to believe so .
but this would now leave us with a contradiction of information ; information aiming to arrive at the same truth .

each dispensation had its own intellectuals, carried out its own research , and arrived at its own Truth.
the issue is there is no agreement with the information or result.
it like the proverb which says
"if you see the number 9 has 6 you are right.
and if another sees the number 6 has 9 he also is Right ,
the issue is the angle or area through which you direct your gaze .

so coming back to religion and people exercising their intellect in order to arrive at their desired utopia -claiming religion was man- made (yes some were)
claiming if your follow religion you're gonna be dogmatic ,irrational bla, bla ,bla .
the thing is you are right base on where you're standing or from which point you're looking at things .
if you are a carnal man - religion will not make no much sense to you ;it's not suppose to even make sense to any carnal man or woman ,it is only meant to impart wisdom unto you ,
a kind of wisdom you will need faith to walk and live by .
and if another says there is God he is also right base on how he chooses to reason but the fact that he said so doesn't make it true .

Truth is not truth because of an agreement or tastement to it ,
but truth is simply truth because it's independently made of itself and by itself without any external influence or contribution.

you can not form " truth "or contribute to "truth" nor reduce from it ,all you can do is to accept it in its totality or deny it in it totality ,
you can do nothing against truth ,
if you kill truth -it will resurrect
you can't hide truth forever -it will find it way out by all means
you can deny truth -your conscience will judge you
all you can do is to accept truth for what it is -and be saved
or deny truth -for what you want -and at the end get what you don't bargain for .

truth is one.
truth is a person .
" TRUTH" is temporal- what you want to believe .
but "THE TRUTH" is everlasting - what you will end up believing either soner or later

WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO YOU IS "TRUTH"
BUT "THE TRUTH" IS A PERSON .

so who is this Truth?

he is Jesus the Christ ,the son of the living God who died for your sin .

he tells you today saying
“I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. " (Nkjv)..

I'm going to post some stuff from the literal work I wrote which deals with understanding
God and how to know him .

This is the link to the story below
https://www.nairaland.com/7089772/testimony-freed-man-two-kingdoms

A discussion between a theist and an atheist :

THE TESTIMONY OF A FREED MAN : TWO KINGDOMS ONE SOUL.

PAGE ~26 : THE DIVINE KNOWLEDGE .

Few minutes After the angry philosopher left ;
Someone walked close to me from behind and said "don't mind that foolish, and mad fellow !
He talks like a drunk mad man ;
He claims to use his mind but lives in self-delusion ."

Please stop !
I think that is not polite at all .
(I replied)

A man should be call wath he truly is my friend ; and I think that guy is a fool .
But with the way you spoke I'm afraid he has succeeded in deceiving you .

So if you chose to speak this way how do one defines you yourself ?

I am a freethinker .

But he claimed to be the same as yourself
(I replied)

What do you mean by that .

He also walks after the dictates of his own heart like yourself .
(I replied)

No he is a philosopher ,I am not .

But you are the same.
(I claimed )

Stop insulting me please I said we are different ,do you understand .

Ehm ...
I am sorry for speaking rashly
(She apologized)

(Then I took cognizance that I was actually speaking with a woman this time .)

THE WOMAN : Hmm .
So where are you heading to ?

ME: I am on my way to Eden ( I said shamefully )

THE WOMAN: on your way to Eden ?
In this twenty first century ?
Is it the same Eden I read about in some strange man made scriptures or some other place called Eden in this modern time ?

ME: Hmm ....
Y, yy,yy yes !
that one ( i stammered with a shamed face )

THE WOMAN: Ah !
You mean the Eden where Adam was claimed to have come from ?

ME: Ye, yyes !
That one (I replied with my gaze on the ground )

Hahahaha (she laughed )
Ah !
Religion has finished this one ooooooo
(she exclaimed)
Poor soul (she cried and and dropped a sigh )

THE WOMAN : So, Mr Eden-goer
What are you going there to do in Eden ?

ME: Ehm .
I'm going there to meet God .

THE WOMAN: God ?
Which God ?
What is it that you want from this so-called God that man can't do for you or you can't do for yourself ?

ME: Ehm ehm ehm ( I struggled for words )
(This lady would mock the hell out of me if i should tell her the truth .
Would she understand if I tell her what it is ?)
(I thought )

(Maybe you should tell her , you shouldn't judge a book merely by its cover ,what if she's got the cure to your problem )
( another though suggested )

or am I too harsh on you mister ?
(she asked ,and awoke me from my thoughts )

ME: Ehm ,actually ,actually ................


THE WOMAN: Actually what ?
Or you don't know where you are even going to ?
You must be a confused fellow

ME: No !
I am not confused ,And know where I am going to .
I am going to ask God to give me drink from the river of life and to give me food from the tree of life .
( I yelled out in anger having felt insulted by this unmannered lady )

THE WOMAN: You see !
I know which button to press to make you speak out ,and now I knew that idiot has deceived you indeed or you ended up deceiving each other .

(Then I knew she intentionally spoke the way she did just to force me speak out the hidden thoughts of my mind .
but now it's to late to be ashame.
I'm gonna give it to her raw has it is without without minding the consequences)
(I THOUGHT)


What is wrong with what I have said for God sake ?
(I asked the lady )

THE WOMAN: Everything !
Everything is totally wrong with what you've said for the sake of not using your brain .
Can't you get water to drink from these rivers by the road side ?
Are these not fruit to eat from
(she said pointing to the trees on the way side )
You want to go meet your sky daddy .
I wonder how you will get to this your delusional Eden talk less of meeting one fake God that is a product of human imaginations .

ME: those trees don't have any fruit that can deal with my hunger ,neither can the waters from these rivers quench my thirst .

THE WOMAN: How come ?
Are you different from others who have drank from those rivers and are satisfied ?
Or are you more human than those who ate from the fruits of these trees ?
You are just a self- righteous fellow .
(She accused me )


ME: No not at all .
it's just that there is an unexplainable hunger ,and thirst withing my spirit ,that I can't explain .

THE WOMAN: Your spirit ?
Man has no spirit .
MAN is COMPLETELY made off flesh ,so only you know what spirit you are talking about .

ME: You see !
I knew beforehand that you wouldn't understand what I'm going through;
I perceived from the very beginning that you're not spiritual ,but whoever is spiritual discerns all things .

THE WOMAN: Nothing like Spirituality my friend !
You are simply an uneducated slowpoke .
just take off your mind from these spiritual things and you would be fine .

ME: is taking off my mind the same as taking off reality ?

THE WOMAN: Yeah I love the word "reality "
Reality are things that are real not some man made spiritual stuff having no visible evidences .

ME: What do you mean by man made ?
Are these notions of yours not man made ?
Or were they from God ?
And by what criterion did you arrived at what definition reality should assumed ?

THE WOMAN: My claims are man made but self -checked ,and freely accepted.
But yours are man -made ,demands for faith ,and are forcefully accepted.
they ain't even real because you can't prove them .
You can't !

ME: What do you want me to prove ?

THE WOMAN: prove that man was created by God and let's see !

ME: What proves do you still need ?

THE WOMAN: What prove have you given ?

ME: from where did man got all the knowledge he has ?
Who taught man to live and behaves differently from the animals ?
Why is man's system of thinking different from all other species ? .
Why is it that even though man is the most intelligent VISIBLE being on earth yet he is limited in all things and depends on others to live comfortable ?
If he is the God of himself why didn't he modify himself into a more sophisticated being.

THE WOMAN: Everything you've said are claims my foolish friend .
You are yet to give me one single proof that man was created by a God .

ME: Okay if man was not created by God who created him then ?

THE WOMAN Have you not been to school before ?
Haven't they taught you on the the bing bang or on the subject of evolution ?

ME: That is also a mere claim and no evident for that .

THE WOMAN: But that is science ,and science has been able to provide proofs for many of its claims .

ME: is that science ?
that is human philosophy ,and human opinion .

No it is science (she argued)

what is the meaning of the word "SCIENCES ?"
(I asked )

well it means "KNOWLEDGE "
(She replied)

ME: so if what you've said is science
Then what I said earlier is also science which means knowledge .
The difference is : One is human knowledge ,and the other is divine knowledge.

THE WOMAN: but through that so-called human knowledge
Many inventions has been made ,and many lives have been changed if you don't know ,
But what has your divine knowledge done for humanity ?

ME: Through the divine knowledge of God all things that pertain to life and godliness has been given .(I replied)

Pertain to live and godliness !

What things is it that pertains to life and godliness ? (She asked )

ME: Well I would say you should guess what it could be ?

THE WOMAN: Money ,car houses ,children ,great family inheritance ,fame ,a spouse .

Are those What you think pertains to life and godliness ? ( I ASKED )

THE WOMAN: What is this life that you are talking about that I do not have already ?
I am alive already as you can see
What I don't have is your so called godliness


so you agree that you are not godly?
(I ASKED HER )

yes I do !
Yes I am not godly (SHE AFFIRMED )

So if you are not godly what do you think you are ? (I ASKED )

THE WOMAN: I am humane

You are Humane ?
How do you define being humane ? (I ASKED )

THE WOMAN : What do you mean ?
What are you trying to say ?

ME: What is your definition of being humane ?

THE WOMAN: Caring ,and showing concern for other of course .

ME: how would you define caring for others ?

THE WOMAN : Are you saying you don't know what caring for others means ?

ME: I know for myself but your own definition might differ from mine ?

THE WOMAN: Why do you say so ?

ME: if we differ in believes I think it is possible that we differ in thoughts .

THE WOMAN: Well it's Just me and you .

ME: No it's you and a lot of people apart from Myself . (I argued )

THE WOMAN: Meaning ?


ME: Many people would disagree with whatever anyone would say no natter what it is or who says it ,even though it might be the truth .

THE WOMAN: So who judges us , who Is it that would moderate on all things .

ME: God !
God is the judge .
Humans differs and argue because they understand how limited a human mind can be so they find it hard to maintain a truth without looking for a superior truth .
But with God lies the truth of all truth .

THE WOMAN:
What is this truth of all truth ?
What do you mean by that ?

ME: Divine knowledge !
Divine knowledge is the knowledge that is Superior to all other kinds of knowledge .

Divine knowledge ?
What exactly is this divine knowledge ?
(SHE ASKED )

ME: It is knowing God and acknowledging him .

THE WOMAN : Why should I know God ?

ME: Why should a child knows it father ?

THE WOMAN: Why shoud a child not know its father ?

ME: Why should man not know God ?

THE WOMAN: Why should man know God ?

ME: Why should a man not know is origin ?

THE WOMAN: What is the origin of man ?

ME: He was created by a supreme ,and spiritual being called God .

THE WOMAN: How do you know that ?

ME: It is divine knowledge ,and that is why you also should have it

Divine knowledge !
Hmm .
I think I would turn and stop this journey
(SHE SAID )

Stop to go where ? (I ASKED )

( She turned and went away sorrowing )
And said "I want to go find out the truth about this divine knowledge you've talked about
And as she went I saw written on her back the word "ATHEIST ."

I knew it !
I knew she must be an atheist
(I said to myself and Continued with my journey )


This was shared from my story
https://www.nairaland.com/7089772/testimony-freed-man-two-kingdoms

If you are an atheist think twice before you die

What do you have to say ?

Think Twice all atheist .
Though I understand circumstances made many to disbelief in God's existence .

Speaklove:
Think Twice all atheist .
Though I understand circumstances made many to disbelief in God's existence .

Theist, which of the gods are you talking about?
The Christian god is called yahweh
Muslim god is called allah
We have sango, ogun worshippers etc, and they are all THEISTS.
And then we have ATHEISTS, that don’t believe or worship any of these deities.

Speaklove:
If you are an atheist think twice before you die

Theist, You should first learn what theist and atheist mean.
It seems religion thrive on Ignorance.

Maynmann:

Theist, which of the gods are you talking about?
The Christian god is called yahweh
Muslim god is called allah
We have sango, ogun worshippers etc, and they are all THEISTS.
And then we have ATHEISTS, that don’t believe or worship any of these deities.

Which one do you think is the true God among all you've mentioned ?

Speaklove:


Which one do you think is the true God among all you've mentioned ?

God is a title not a person.
The Christian worshippers will say it’s their god so as the Sango worshippers or allah worshippers, all will be making claims because TALK IS CHEAP.

Speaklove:

God is giving the devil a run for his money

LoLz! So you admit that in your religion the god and the devil are on the same footing? Basically it's just a pantheon of gods but you choose to worship only one? Bwahahahahaha!

LordReed:


LoLz! So you admit that in your religion the god and the devil are on the same footing? Basically it's just a pantheon of gods but you choose to worship only one? Bwahahahahaha!

Even you yourself can't find expression in whatsoever way unless you align with one of these - and it's not a matter of choice

You must but be a servant of one of these two
Whether theist or atheist or agnostic or whatever .

Speaklove:


Even you yourself can't find expression in whatsoever way unless you align with one of these - and it's not a matter of choice

You must but be a servant of one of these two
Whether theist or atheist or agnostic or whatever .

LoLz! If you think I am not living without your fairytale you must be in lalaland.

Speaklove:
Think Twice all atheist .
Though I understand circumstances made many to disbelief in God's existence .

How can you create a thread about atheists, and at the same time, fail to accurately define what atheism is.

Atheism doesn't say there is NO GOD... It's simply the LACK OF BELIEF IN A GOD. Clearly 2 different things.

I can't speak for all atheists.. as for me, the reason i lack belief in a God, is due to lack of evidence for one.

Considering you're a theist who believes in a God, I'd like to see your evidence

Wilgrea7:


How can you create a thread about atheists, and at the same time, fail to accurately define what atheism is.

Atheism doesn't say there is NO GOD... It's simply the LACK OF BELIEF IN A GOD. Clearly 2 different things.

I can't speak for all atheists.. as for me, the reason i lack belief in a God, is due to lack of evidence for one.

Considering you're a theist who believes in a God, I'd like to see your evidence

When you said " atheism mean the lack of believe in a God " , and not denying in the existence of God .
And then said you don't belief in God because there is no evidence for God's existence ;
then you've contradicted yourself to some certain certain degree .

LordReed:


LoLz! If you think I am not living without your fairytale you must be in lalaland.

I didn't say you're not alive .
No !
Rather my emphases was that you can't live in the realm without being influence by either God or Satan irrespective of whether you acknowledge their existence or not .

In fact ; Satan would prefer that you don't believe in his existence so that his merchandize could proper in you life without resistance .

Maynmann:


God is a title not a person.
The Christian worshippers will say it’s their god so as the Sango worshippers or allah worshippers, all will be making claims because TALK IS CHEAP.

Which one of them are you committed to ?

Speaklove:


I didn't say you're not alive .
No !
Rather my emphases was that you can't live in the realm without being influence by either God or Satan irrespective of whether you acknowledge their existence or not .

In fact ; Satan would prefer that you don't believe in his existence so that his merchandize could proper in you life without resistance .

You are in lalaland. LoLz.

Speaklove:


Which one of them are you committed to ?

I’m not a deity worshipper like you.

Your jewish savior is divine(deus) right?

Speaklove:


When you said " atheism mean the lack of believe in a God " , and not denying in the existence of God .
And then said you don't belief in God because there is no evidence for God's existence ;
then you've contradicted yourself to some certain certain degree .

How is there a contradiction there?

Atheism is the lack of belief in a God

I lack belief in a God... I am an atheist.

Why do I lack belief in a God? Because of lack of evidence.

Where's the contradiction there?

I'm not saying a God doesn't exist. I'm saying I haven't seen evidence that proves that one does

How do you define TRUTH?

A comprehensive definition of TRUTH is all we need not fruitless arguments on whether someone believe (trust) in God or not.
If we know the TRUTH we will all believe in God! John 8:32

Blessed Sunday in Jesu's name

Give me some time to rest

Blessed week ahead

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Blessed Sunday to everyone out there

Pray ALWAYS and believe in God.

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Atheists have no foundation
They have no structure on which to base their belief