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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 7:49am On Dec 21, 2022
CivilEngineer90:
[s]if your home was up to Standard then show us the test cube results from lab analysis and not the house covered in a beautiful paint [/s] You did yours with baba sikiru, non Engineered that's fine but pls don't encourage that kind of thing here. [s]To get a home up to code you are looking at those figures bro[/s]. So just codedly do your thing and stay low-key but when those who want to build to Standard and withstand all harsh weather conditions then let them do it how it should be.

Probably the same Baba sikiru that most of you contractors engage after collecting 60million for a bungalow/penthouse.

Spare me that please. It's a faceless forum. I don't have to come out in public to address the qualifications of artisans I engage neither will I come here to claim I spent 60 million on a house I barely spent 15million in construction. In my religion 'deception' is a sin.

If you want to call figures, go ahead but that's for those that believe you not me.

A notable artisan (not our michlins) gave me a quotation for 'steel' rails in a building he posted and bragged about here, but in real life I used that amount to purchase over 90% of wrought rails. Thanks to my neighbor who did his at the same period. The usual talk is 'I am a professional that follows code and standard'....Sir I hear you, well done.

About the 'low key' you mentioned, I was staying low key, but those exaggerated figures..40mil,50mil,60mil, now 100mil...are enough to raise anybody's head.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by UC92: 8:08am On Dec 21, 2022
michlins:
ok, what's the current price of 2mm sheet and how many did you use. If you stick to 2mm materials all round, materials alone will be above 300k

I can point out the areas that show the guage of pan you used but that's not why we are here.

Mine you that to build a very lasting gate, you need to frame with angle bars and not the 3 by 1½ pipe you used there. Those pipes will rust in less than five years. The anchors on the gate should be at least three (four is industry standard) to handle the weight of the gate else the weight will be on the top anchor and it will die off quickly.


I don't mean to disparage your work but the way you cut costs affects quality.

Good morning Oga Michlins.

Between 75*75*3mm angle iron and 75*75*3mm square pipe, which has more strength? Are they of equal strength?

Asking to learn.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 8:32am On Dec 21, 2022
Godisgreatest1:


Probably the same Baba sikiru that most of you contractors engage after collecting 60million for a bungalow/penthouse.

Spare me that please. It's a faceless forum. I don't have to come out in public to address the qualifications of artisans I engage neither will I come here to claim I spent 60 million on a house I barely spent 15million in construction. In my religion 'deception' is a sin.

If you want to call figures, go ahead but that's for those that believe you not me.

A notable artisan (not our michlins) gave me a quotation for 'steel' rails in a building he posted and bragged about here, but in real life I used that amount to purchase over 90% of wrought rails. Thanks to my neighbor who did his at the same period. The usual talk is 'I am a professional that follows code and standard'....Sir I hear you, well done.

About the 'low key' you mentioned, I was staying low key, but those exaggerated figures..40mil,50mil,60mil, now 100mil...are enough to raise anybody's head.
Ride on Pls. You're so on point.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 8:57am On Dec 21, 2022
Reeefe:


please someone advise me on this kitchen issue oh
I understand you want to manage your space by combining the kitchen and dining room together in one place,but the disadvantages outweighed the advantages unless there's 247 electricity to power the kitchen heat extractor. But You can make the kitchen open to the dinning while the dining room open to the Sitting room. This would save cost and also add little space than demarcating them both dining and kitchen completely.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 9:12am On Dec 21, 2022
UC92:


Good morning Oga Michlins.

Between 75*75*3mm angle iron and 75*75*3mm square pipe, which has more strength? Are they of equal strength?

Asking to learn.
they're basically same thing but depending on application, they will serve entirely different purposes
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 9:26am On Dec 21, 2022
Godisgreatest1:


Probably the same Baba sikiru that most of you contractors engage after collecting 60million for a bungalow/penthouse.

Spare me that please. It's a faceless forum. I don't have to come out in public to address the qualifications of artisans I engage neither will I come here to claim I spent 60 million on a house I barely spent 15million in construction. In my religion 'deception' is a sin.

If you want to call figures, go ahead but that's for those that believe you not me.

A notable artisan (not our michlins) gave me a quotation for 'steel' rails in a building he posted and bragged about here, but in real life I used that amount to purchase over 90% of wrought rails. Thanks to my neighbor who did his at the same period. The usual talk is 'I am a professional that follows code and standard'....Sir I hear you, well done.

About the 'low key' you mentioned, I was staying low key, but those exaggerated figures..40mil,50mil,60mil, now 100mil...are enough to raise anybody's head.

By being directly involved in construction I realize that you can build that structure for way way less than 100m, I am saying 100m based on the selling price of similar places in Abuja.

So 100m is selling price and not cost to build.

Maybe I should share pictures of houses for sale in Abuja and their prices to buttress my point

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Soldierboy30(m): 9:29am On Dec 21, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by CivilEngineer90: 9:42am On Dec 21, 2022
Godisgreatest1:


Probably the same Baba sikiru that most of you contractors engage after collecting 60million for a bungalow/penthouse.

Spare me that please. It's a faceless forum. I don't have to come out in public to address the qualifications of artisans I engage neither will I come here to claim I spent 60 million on a house I barely spent 15million in construction. In my religion 'deception' is a sin.

If you want to call figures, go ahead but that's for those that believe you not me.

A notable artisan (not our michlins) gave me a quotation for 'steel' rails in a building he posted and bragged about here, but in real life I used that amount to purchase over 90% of wrought rails. Thanks to my neighbor who did his at the same period. The usual talk is 'I am a professional that follows code and standard'....Sir I hear you, well done.

About the 'low key' you mentioned, I was staying low key, but those exaggerated figures..40mil,50mil,60mil, now 100mil...are enough to raise anybody's head.
I wanted to reply you then I went back again and realize we are talking about just a bongalow here so I won't give you that hype. Baba move ahead, proffessionals are not for your kind and I pray Nigeria gets there when a law is passed for lands to not being wasted on minimum of 3floor buildings.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 10:02am On Dec 21, 2022
CivilEngineer90:
I wanted to reply you then I went back again and realize we are talking about just a bongalow here so I won't give you that hype. Baba move ahead, proffessionals are not for your kind and I pray Nigeria gets there when a law is passed for lands to not being wasted on minimum of 3floor buildings.

Really? That means my duplex in South East will be #500 million on NL.

Thank you Sir, and I pray our NL professionals can build refineries with funds of those that don't know or those that know but chose to be ignorant. The cost of petrol is overwhelming.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 10:20am On Dec 21, 2022
FEGEITOK:


By being directly involved in construction I realize that you can build that structure for way way less than 100m, I am saying 100m based on the selling price of similar places in Abuja.

So 100m is selling price and not cost to build.

Maybe I should share pictures of houses for sale in Abuja and their prices to buttress my point

Sir, I was referring to 'cost of building' not 'selling price'.

I have seen the quote of a so-called professional engineer that says 80 bags of cement, I ended up using 40 bags. The Job has finished, so now I am waiting for the building to collapse because it is substandard.

My engineer is registered, attached on contract to a construction company called 'Raffoul' (please google that). He is from the south western part of Nigeria, and i am always ready to drag him to the south south anytime/anyday.

I'm a Christian, his a Muslim, but our love for each other is 'factory-fitted' by our Creator.

'To be sincere'- is a personal decision that is too rare, scarce and limited amongst Nigerians generally.

Those figures mentioned here as the cost of building are FAT LIES. Please do your investigation independent of mine.

Thank you Sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nomyth: 10:29am On Dec 21, 2022
Blessedsunny2:
Merry Christmas in advance
Still your blessed sunny global investment home of building materials
And blessed Sam building materials enterprise

Hello,

How much is this?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Inception(m): 10:30am On Dec 21, 2022
michlins:
they're basically same thing but depending on application, they will serve entirely different purposes
Nope grin

They have different structural strengths , simply based on their shape and volume at cross section (sectional modulus)

For the same thickness, the square pipe will always be stronger to resist bending, axial compression and even torsion, depending on loading conditions and application. Why? It simply has more material undecided

Yes oh we are 'codified' Engineers and we gallant cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Biztech05(m): 10:37am On Dec 21, 2022
Soldierboy30:
Someone told me it will cost me 34-36m to have this 4 bedroom bungalow and penthouse built in Akwa-ibom state. I cannot afford it, I don drop am.





https://www.nairaland.com/6973396/abeokuta-construction-gallery/2#116313823

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by CivilEngineer90: 10:50am On Dec 21, 2022
Godisgreatest1:


Really? That means my duplex in South East will be #500 million on NL.

Thank you Sir, and I pray our NL professionals can build refineries with funds of those that don't know or those that know but chose to be ignorant. The cost of petrol is overwhelming.
baba desist from mentioning me or I will insult your family!! I have important things on my mind right now or If you rented a duplex how's that any of my concern.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Reeefe(m): 10:56am On Dec 21, 2022
olukaygold:

I understand you want to manage your space by combining the kitchen and dining room together in one place,but the disadvantages outweighed the advantages unless there's 247 electricity to power the kitchen heat extractor. But You can make the kitchen open to the dinning while the dining room open to the Sitting room. This would save cost and also add little space than demarcating them both dining and kitchen completely.
that like as it is in the picture I added? so that only those in the dining can see the kitchen but those in the sitting room can't see the kitchen but can see the dining. do u think it would be necessary to include an option for sliding as a demarcation for the kitchen n dining so future tenants can decide weather to or not to use the sliding or use it together?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 11:06am On Dec 21, 2022
Godisgreatest1:


Sir, I was referring to 'cost of building' not 'selling price'.

I have seen the quote of a so-called professional engineer that says 80 bags of cement, I ended up using 40 bags. The Job has finished, so now I am waiting for the building to collapse because it is substandard.

My engineer is registered, attached on contract to a construction company called 'Raffoul' (please google that). He is from the south western part of Nigeria, and i am always ready to drag him to the south south anytime/anyday.

I'm a Christian, his a Muslim, but our love for each other is 'factory-fitted' by our Creator.

'To be sincere'- is a personal decision that is too rare, scarce and limited amongst Nigerians generally.

Those figures mentioned here as the cost of building are FAT LIES. Please do your investigation independent of mine.

Thank you Sir.





Before now, when you see the prices of iron doors and gates here, you would have a HBP.
Not until @michilin came on board and demystified and scattered their kingdom....
If the so called professionals here recommend 100 bags of cement, just budget about 50 bags.
There are some that are very truthful just that they seldom comment here.
But generally this thread is da bomb.
@n3xt is one guy I miss his input here but him too dey phuq up.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 11:09am On Dec 21, 2022
CivilEngineer90:
baba desist from mentioning me or I will insult your family!! I have important things on my mind right now or If you rented a duplex how's that any of my concern.

Sir, I'm surprised....why are you so 'professional' but yet so 'easily' offended? I can recall you are the first 'professional' to mention me even when my comment wasn't directed at you.

Ok. Sorry for mentioning you after you mentioned me.

Have a nice day Sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 11:09am On Dec 21, 2022
CivilEngineer90:
baba desist from mentioning me or I will insult your family!! I have important things on my mind right now or If you rented a duplex how's that any of my concern.
If you truly have important things on your mind right now you wouldn't be joining issues with people that are jobless.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 11:18am On Dec 21, 2022
Godisgreatest1:


Sir, I'm surprised....why are you so 'professional' but yet so 'easily' offended? I can recall you are the first 'professional' to mention me even when my comment wasn't directed at you.

Ok. Sorry for mentioning you after you mentioned me.

Have a nice day Sir.

grin grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Thomaths(m): 11:34am On Dec 21, 2022
vawulenceee everywhere

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 11:40am On Dec 21, 2022
Reeefe:
that like as it is in the picture I added? so that only those in the dining can see the kitchen but those in the sitting room can't see the kitchen but can see the dining. do u think it would be necessary to include an option for sliding as a demarcation for the kitchen n dining so future tenants can decide weather to or not to use the sliding or use it together?
Just checked the 3d you uploaded,I hardly see dining window but if the dining has its own window WITHOUT relying on the kitchen window for its ventilation(in open kitchen, Kitchen and dining room always shares a single window in most cases),then introduce a sliding door between the kitchen and the dining room and leave the dining room open to the Sitting room.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:42am On Dec 21, 2022
bobkezel:



@n3xt is one guy I miss his input here but him too dey phuq up.

The same one with the highest quote that still ended up eating part of the money with weak pillars falling apart and blocks breaking at the slightest impact?

Shey you dey whine me ni?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:50am On Dec 21, 2022
Reeefe:
that like as it is in the picture I added? so that only those in the dining can see the kitchen but those in the sitting room can't see the kitchen but can see the dining. do u think it would be necessary to include an option for sliding as a demarcation for the kitchen n dining so future tenants can decide weather to or not to use the sliding or use it together?

Why are you so concerned about "future tenants"? You should design and build for the general tenants and the general tenants in Nigeria don't want, like or need open plan kitchens. I guess this is your first development as you are about to make a first timer error.

Close the kitchen and move on with your development. Delay is dangerous in today's building materials market. Any future tenants who want open plan, let them look somewhere else, you don't have that in stock.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 11:54am On Dec 21, 2022
MMotimo:


Haba! Haba! Haba! This is so uncalled for. Your language is extremely inappropriate. We can agree to disagree, there was absolutely no reason to talk to him like that. Very disrespectful and you owe him an apology.

@olukaygold i gave a client your number
That's what she av to say about you
Try to be calming down and the way you talk to clients is very important...



My 2cent

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 12:12pm On Dec 21, 2022
Hehehe Wetin dey sup… let’s do this Christmas without violence o

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 12:23pm On Dec 21, 2022
FEGEITOK:


As requested

Thank you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrApcLimited: 12:50pm On Dec 21, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Inception(m): 12:53pm On Dec 21, 2022
money121:


@olukaygold i gave a client your number
That's what she av to say about you
Try to be calming down and the way you talk to clients is very important...



My 2cent

Season of vawulence grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 12:57pm On Dec 21, 2022
money121:


@olukaygold i gave a client your number
That's what she av to say about you
Try to be calming down and the way you talk to clients is very important...



My 2cent
Oga mi! Honestly I know who you're talking about sir. To
be outspoken, pls don't judge me based on the way I responded to critics here, that's not who I am in reality.but there are some clients they won't give you job but only want to use your brains and pay you peanut inform of transportation money.I don't do such(Nobody prays for Wasted efforts) What caused the disagreement between the client and I was; She asked me to come to the Site to check the work and I responded that we can seal everything on the phone here. which we spoken for good three days(minimum of 1hr WhatsApp call per day, explaining how the work would be done) But the client insisted I must go to the site. No where is safe in Nigeria now,Out of my busy times, I can't risk my life to check out the Work and still at the end;the Contract will be awarded to someone else(No oke prays for Wasted efforts).I only asked her to send 30% of the agreed price to my company account then I'll come the next day with my Team. We don't pray for wasted efforts. The client sent two different voice notes abusing me but I just have to replied her that IM SORRY,still texted the client second day asking her to forgive me and overlook my shortcomings in which she replied yesterday. There are lots to say,but I just have to overlook it and move on. This is not me on reality sir. I only maintain Client - Contractor relationship,Not Master-Servant relationship.I'm so sorry for all the disagreement here and there sir. @Kopell I'm so sorry for dishing out that rigorous word. I'm so sorry House

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyesky(m): 12:58pm On Dec 21, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 1:06pm On Dec 21, 2022
olukaygold:

Oga mi! Honestly I know who you're talking about sir. To
be outspoken, pls don't judge me based on the way I responded to critics here, that's not who I am in reality.but there are some clients they won't give you job but only want to use your brains and pay you peanut inform of transportation money.I don't do such(Nobody prays for Wasted efforts) What caused the disagreement between the client and I was; She asked me to come to the Site to check the work and I responded that we can seal everything on the phone here. which we spoken for good three days(minimum of 1hr WhatsApp call per day, explaining how the work would be done) But the client insisted I must go to the site. No where is safe in Nigeria now,Out of my busy times, I can't risk my life to check out the Work and still at the end;the Contract will be awarded to someone else(No oke prays for Wasted efforts).I only asked her to send 30% of the agreed price to my company account then I'll come the next day with my Team. We don't pray for wasted efforts. The client sent two different voice notes abusing me but I just have to replied her that IM SORRY,still texted the client second day asking her to forgive me and overlook my shortcomings in which she replied yesterday. There are lots to say,but I just have to overlook it and move on. This is not me on reality sir. I only maintain Client - Contractor relationship,Not Master-Servant relationship.I'm so sorry for all the disagreement here and there sir. @Kopell I'm so sorry for dishing out that rigorous word. I'm so sorry House
Alrty sir,
No problem
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 1:41pm On Dec 21, 2022
somehow:


The same one with the highest quote that still ended up eating part of the money with weak pillars falling apart and blocks breaking at the slightest impact?

Shey you dey whine me ni?
I'm not whinning you sir.
There are people that you can only follow their words, but not their actions...
@n3xt is one of those people. He has solutions (good and bad) to every problem. I actually look forward to his inputs, but I will never contract him for any job.

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