1Sharon:


This makes sense.

Because why would someone bear names like 'kumuyi', 'ikuseka', 'ikujenyo', if they hadn't been plaged by many people they cared about dying around them?

I feel for our ancestors sha. They just didn't understand why those people were dying and they just expressed their emotions and beliefs in the naming of their kids

duro4chang:
Not all names with Iku are abiku's names. Some are and some are not. I will soon create a thread that explains the believe of yoruba about death.

1Sharon:


From what I've researched online, ancient yorubas saw death as a spirit.

1Sharon:


We don't have to make poor decisions in the name of saluting our identity.

Ankara just wouldn't work.

Have you seen any school in the world that wears their cultural atire as uniform?

Olu317:
. Ifá priests will educate you further. Ordinarily, you are supposed to be well vast before creating any threadbof such because Yoruba names are never wuruwuru in making. Anyway, enjoy thyself.

Olu317:
. Ifá priests will educate you further. Ordinarily, you are supposed to be well vast before creating any threadbof such because Yoruba names are never wuruwuru in making. Anyway, enjoy thyself.

duro4chang:
I don't understand you at all.

cayorday89:
Any idea what OKURIBIDO truly means...

Bosville:
Amusan has it's own independent meaning. Ifamusan - Ifa has chosen him/her to become a bearer of Isán. With or without the prefix the name is still pointing in the same direction.
It's just like Amosun- The one who holds Oṣùn(Oṣùn ìs a god represented in form of an iron staff ) not to be mistaken with Osun the river goddess. We also have Ifamosun- Ifá has chosen Oṣùn, more like, Ifá has chosen him/her to be a bearer of Oṣùn.
So it's all the same.

1Sharon:


When there is a thread on ancient Igbo names, we go call you.

Olu317:
The examples you mentioned are not necessarily what the names means from its original conceptualization.

Ikúmúyi (lkú mú iyi-death caught this particular one up) or ikú mu iyi(death consume /drank this particular one up) are not the meaning. Rather, ikú mọ́ uyi(death knows this particular one; hence he/she is untouchable) .

Ikúṣeka is same with the purposeful positive translation and not negative of it. Hence death has been curtailed and not death did evil.

Yoruba ancestors are well knowledgeable about their environment and cosmology. So, no name came to be in existence without proper ifa divination,which leads to names that are given in accordance to cirmumstances of any child birth.

The new Mid 1800s when colonialists came led to this distortion by new converts for both Muslims and christians converts which makes people bear names as they like.

Are you aware Elúwa(Olúwa) or Elú(Olú) is a name of Orúnmílà who also bear Ẹlà as a name ? Yoruba ancestors were more cordinated and thorough than the modern day ones.

Olu317:
Yes, he became a spirit after he was defeated. This is what is stated by ifaodu. So,there are spiritbeings sent by Eledumare to go upon earth and heaven.

In the ancient,he came like police to pick people up whose time were up when sin arrived on earth after the law of Eledumare was broken or disobeyed. One day, he came and was defeated.

Olu317:
This is òku/òkun rí ibi udò/òku/òkun rí ibúdo (wealth's abode/ wealth has abode/wealth's living place.

NoToPile:


Reason why there are lots of Oku names in Ijebu. Okusanya, okunuga, okunnowo.

I always wondered if it the Oku in those names means corpse, it just didn't tally with the rest of the name.

I know iga- is palace always wondered if okunuga was corpse in the palace.

If it means God of wealth (I suspect 'Wealth has here it's palace' ~ Okù ni ìgà) I. E Aje it still makes sense.

I am Ijebu.

Cooleasy:


Please can you explain to me what you meant by 'verily, lands in the regions of the Congo shall rise again'?
Does it have to do with the position that the Yoruba language is part of the Benue-Congo broad group of languages?

yana24:
Please, what is the meaning of ADENIJI

Olu317:
Kumuyi(ikú mọ́ iyì-death knows this very one),màlọ́mọ́,ikúdẹ̀hindé etc

Olu317:
All the creteria associated with citizenship is same with Yoruba people from time immemorial. There is no room for general descrimination in Yoruba structure.

Yoruba Religion is all about self belief and fellowship in it. Although, in ifa, it is clearly stated that all mankind should follow Yoruba traditional system and must be initiated.

But as it is, not all mankind follow Yoruba tradition or are initiated though, ifaodu says, there is nowhere Orúnmìlà , who is also called Ẹlà at times because the former is a nickname of his. Orúnmìlà overshadowed his real name which is Ẹlà.

Meanwhile, there is another Ẹlà who is known as Ọmọ oyigi oyigi ọtá omi.

1Sharon:


Cheers. But why is the 'ola' term for wealth more ubiquitous?

It turns out ola doesn't even mean wealth.
'Oro' means wealth.

So how did alot of yorubas get it wrong?

Olu317:
Okay.Plainly, any name with ikú is abikú's identity. Itis a fact that Yoruba tradition profess positivism in all challenges, inclusive ikú which is negatism.

Herein, every name given that either is having ikú (prefix or suffix) is absolutely rejection of death in such family.

Kindly know also, there is no shrine for ikú to be worshipped or venerated in ifá. Infact immortality was for humanity in totality but when the laws were broken, then death begun to kill humanity.

This is why, death is seen as a mean of ascending to the abode of the ancestors for reincanation to be once there is a reason for such person or individual who died without fulfilment of his purose on earth, must return back to do such. Hence, Bátundé/Bábátundé came to existence.

Olu317:
Lol! Say who ? I guess, you are looking at kind of khaki clothing for pupils or students ? Innovation. Adire or Ankara have patterns that can be used for uniform. It simply means, celebration of Yoruba fabric identity.

Although, you're entitled to your personal view. So, you can disagree. This said clothing material is Yoruba's and making uniform out of it is to carve identity for Yoruba pupils or students

1Sharon:


We don't have to make poor decisions in the name of saluting our identity.

Ankara just wouldn't work.

Have you seen any school in the world that wears their cultural atire as uniform?

1Sharon:


Okay you explained that Kumuyi and Ikuseka are positive but you never explained Ikujenyō and there are many 'Iku' names I could list if you like.

So Olu-to-da-iwā is the same as Orunmila?

Is Orunmila the supreme God in yoruba religion?

kumulus:


It is beyond identity of any tribe....it is chiefly about revamping the economy. In your spare time, try calculate the estimated amount of acquiring school uniform materials for all school age children in the country per year (take note most wards have at least a pair per term and there are three terms in a year). Making it mandatory for all to wear local fabrics to offices and classrooms will resuscitate the dead textile industry within a few years, thereby creating jobs across the chain of supply. Putting a big stop to fx flight in JUST one industry.

Imagine

kumulus:


Can you help break down the saying; 'ikú bàbá yèyé'?

kumulus:



Is Yoruba a religious or a socio-cultural system?

kumulus:


How did 'u' become 'ọ́'? I've never seen or seem to have heard such before now.

cayorday89:

Thanks for this, this is the surname of a friend in Uni and she does not even know the meaning when we asked her.

Olu317:
I do not share in your Nigeria's entity's projection. I make reference to Yoruba entity as you haven't read my view. Adire, Kampala, Ankara etc are narrowed down to Yoruba schools within her confine.

Olu317:
Death Father Mother
The glorification is to assert mighty power of a king who does as he wishes freely. This saying is about Absolute authority bestowed upon a king who is able to do and undo as he pleases.

Olu317:
No! Both .Yoruba group are multiRacial,religious and pride to be part of the pioneer of people who begun humanity.

Olu317:
the dialect factored in. Ikú mọ́ uyi is same as iyi

If you speak lagos dialect , Ibadan's, stint of ọyọ́'s then ,certain lettering may seem strange to you.The Lagos Yoruba is an offshoot of all dialects though and became compressed for all users.

Apart from this, contraction is also factoring in Yoruba language, reason being that name given are always descriptive to all things. Only few exception which falls within loaned words.