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shegz24:
lol.. yet him or his protege governed almost all SW states.

Penguin2:
If he’s so loved, why did his cousin lose election in Osun?

IfnobeGod20:
Which of the protege?
Remember he never supported Fayemi for his second term, it was Daramola he supported and they even planned to play smart to choose a consensus but it was aborted. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/05/ekiti-tinubu-akande-root-apc-consensus-candidate/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwi5tb-Sq7D8AhWpQaQEHfEUBFYQFnoECCUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0wbPEZPlfDttSQhS0xtCiF
Same he never supported Arakunrin Akeredolu he supported Oke in the primary and Arakunrin beat him mercilessly https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/209773-updated-ondo-2016-akeredolu-defeats-tinubus-candidate-apc-primary.html&ved=2ahUKEwjQm4vFqrD8AhV1TKQEHQhFDFQQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0qkcZ38salmKpuDOLmG4yy
If the two of them are like him, they won't even support him but they are only playing politics of party men.
Even in the last gubernatorial primary election in Ekiti, his group rooted for Adeyeye https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/01/25/tinubus-group-endorses-adeyeye-for-ekiti-apc-governorship-primary-election/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwi5tb-Sq7D8AhWpQaQEHfEUBFYQFnoECA8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0C2kGAe3PETBOGi-ZzDUtR.
He always want to control everywhere and that was why never supported the governors of Ekiti and Ondo but they all contested and won. It was the same game he played against Aregbesola that caused the feud between them till date. Because of his ambition he never want anyone to be like him, always want to dictate who to be who in his party but nemesis always catches up with him.
Aside from Lagos that he has a strong stranglehold on, no part of south west that he has that strong hold. No doubt what is working for him in south west is the APC structure in place and no more. Aside from Fayemi with his forgiven spirit that is following him about, do you see the rest doing that?
Tinubu is the most greedy politician in south west and it shows in his words. Have you seen anyone that worked with him that he allowed to be godfather in their respective state, he still dictate to them and never want to give them free hand but those ones always outsmarted him, only Aregbesola could not do that and APC later paid dearly for it. If he has allowed Aregbesola to take charge, it won't have gone worst for APC in Osun but he want to be controlling everywhere because of his personal ambition.

shegz24:
after having his protege govern the state for no less than 3 terms.
twice with aregbe and once with oyetola..

imagine denying something so obvious for baseless argument sake.

shegz24:
What rubbish is this one saying?
APC control almost all states in SW, at a point they controlled all SW states

Is there anybody more influential than Tinubu in SW?

is that not common knowledge?

IfnobeGod20:
Of all I explained this is all you can say or come up with. The same thing I wrote was what you corroborated. His influence is what is killing APC in south west because he wished to plant his people everywhere. He almost did same in Kogi state by bringing Faleke who is already representing Lagos at House of Reps, neglecting those that are toiling and touring to build the party in Kogi state. His ambition is more paramount to him than anything. If Fayemi and Akeredolu had not played smart on him, they would not have had chance of governing their respective state at all. His high-handedness caused the failure of APC in Osun state but instead of people to tell it to him, they are afraid to say the truth. If he has allowed Aregbesola to take control of the state, APC would not have lost the state but his personal ambition is driving him crazy to do the right thing.
Point of correction, APC had never controlled the whole south west since its formation. Ekiti and Ondo were under the occupation of PDP when APC was formed and then Oyo for PDP. Most of the senators in Ondo, Osun and Oyo are also from PDP extraction.

stuffs2002:
President by birth or by election??

Your next President

shegz24:
Now go back to the crux, between Tinubu and OBJ , who is more influential in SW?

Even when OBJ was wanted by most Nigerians in 1999, he still couldnt win SW votes and you are here blabbing.

IfnobeGod20:
Who is more influential between Tinubu and OBJ in Nigeria?
Who will cough in the north east, north west, north central, south east and south South and they will heed to him?
Who would the world leaders listen to as far as Nigerian leaders are concerned? Put together all the Nigerian leaders including the ones in your local government and my own and all you know and compare them with OBJ.
You know what, OBJ issue is liken to what Jesus' experience during his life ministry. Hear what the Bible says, Jesus said to them, “A prophet is treated with honour everywhere except in his own hometown, among his relatives, and in his own house.”
Why the world is celebrating him, his own people are treating him with disdain but give honour to their tax masters.
Read

shegz24:
That influence and organic support Tinubu has always had from his people is exactly why OBJ envies him.

You are just blabbing off track, stick to the topic.

IfnobeGod20:
Do you know the meaning of someone having an organic support or you just heard people using it and you want to impress me?
Organic support is a support done on your behalf without the knowledge of you or anyone close to you. Tell me any rally or gathering done for Tinubu that one APC man or supporter will not trigger it. Is it the youth rally supporter by Seyi or is it the women rally sponsored by Remi or is it the campaign rally sponsored by the party men and women.
Don't just carelesslly use word you know not the meaning.
You are the one still blabbing for over three days now and what to show that Tinubu's image is better than OBJ, forgetting that local champion cannot be compare to world champion.
How would a former Head of State, a former minister, a General of repute and a former President of a country be jealous of former governor and just less than 2 years senator?
Continue blabbing by asking irrelevant question that the Pharisees also asked Jesus during his earthly ministry.
If OBJ contest for president today, he will still win Tinubu hands down because the north and part of the south will trust him than your Tinubu. So, what's the irrelevant local champion question you're throwing around amount to?

shegz24:
Organic support is bourne out of sheer love for that person.
Tinubu is love by the Yorubas and that has nothing to do with him contesting in the forthcoming election.

Another person with that organic support/love is Kwankwaso in Kano state.
He is obviously not as popular nationwide as many politicians past and present and may not even win the Kano votes for the presidential election but his fanbase is not based on any financial or entitled benefit.

OBJ can never get that in SouthWest while Tinubu gets that effortlessly.

If Buhari pulls his weight behind Tinubu, I promise you that even OBJ will lose to BAT.

The combination of the organic love Buhari has up North and that of BAT in SW is enough to smash any candidate.

OBJ influence up North has faded and when he had it, it was down to agreements between him and many ex-generals/ influential figures.
Buhari right from the early 2000s and till date barely needs massive spending prowess nor any agreement to get Northern support.
That is why he could form a party-CPC and withing a few months got 11M votes almost entirely from the North (even when Yaradua,GEJ were still loved by all).

Buhari and Tinubu combination will smash any candidate.

The few that wont back them are the neutrals based on the poor performance of APC as a whole.
But individually, Buhari owns the love of an average Northerner likewise Tinubu to SW.

Even when OBJ was a military general, Awolowo was the natural leader that was loved by the Yoruba; Akintola came up out of greed and even he couldnt match the love for Awolowo in SW till date.

OBJ is just a Yoruba man by name.
He is more a Northerner in growth and connect or love(which is even conditional).

Yorubaland no really send am.

These things are obvious, even in football ; Ronaldo may be the GOAT but in Man.United the likes of Giggs and maybe even Rooney are still way more loved.

These things are obvious, except you just love arguing blindly.

IfnobeGod20:
You're now turning your word up side down by yourself, after using the word wrongly.

Yes, Tinubu is love by his political associates no doubt about that but that doesn't translate to Yoruba as a whole loving him. If he was so loved, as he went campaign for his nephew in Osun state, APC would not have lost that election.

Again, if he was so loved in south west those he has been supporting before the merger of AC/ACN to form APC in 2007 and 2011 they would have won massively in south west the way Buhari always win massively in north west and partly north east.

Tinubu has no single organic love in south west, forget all this your overrated ego you're ascribing to him. The only politician all over the nation that has organic support is Buhari and no other politician has that. Tinubu only have associates all over the south west and the money they have is working for them heavily. The other set that are rooting for him are doing so based on ethnic bias and religion colouration and not because they really love him. I say this as an Omoluabi and someone in the midst of my people.

Someone with organic love will not panic and will not be doing continuous rallies everytime and vote canvassing will also be minimal because of the sure assurance that people are behind him. And that is why Buhari then rarely do serious campaign but still fair greatly in the north.

I don't argue blindly because I don't allow my emotion to overrun me, I go with fact and figure.

Penguin2:
Nooooh!

It is not for argument sake…

What does Oyetola’s loss mean?