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Kobojunkie:
They are all of them Pagan because they are not commanded by the God of Israel. Any idea that is not commanded by God is considered Pagan — that is the scriptural meaning of the word.

The present day Israel get God?
I no dey argue with a racist God worshiper today!

PROVERBZ:
I don't want to stress myself to much. Look for it urself.
It's Ur own salvation that on the line.

So you created the thread based on lies which you have no evidence for?

AntiChristian:
The present day Israel get God?
I no dey argue with a racist God worshiper today!

I don't understand. Since when did God say He will only be Israel's God if and only if Israel serves Him?

But He is the same God that your Mohammed pretended to cling to, isn't He? The same God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob... the same one who gave Moses the Law which turns out is the Constitution of the Nation of Israel. So do you finally now see the reality of what Mohammed had tried to do but failed at?

Kobojunkie:
I don't understand. Since when did God say He will only be Israel's God if and only if Israel serves Him?

But He is the same God that your Mohammed pretended to cling to, isn't He? The same God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob... the same one who gave Moses the Law which turns out is the Constitution of the Nation of Israel. So do you finally now see the reality of what Mohammed had tried to do but failed at?

So Muhammad pretended but Jesus didn't right?

Abeg keep shut! Constitutionally, Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam scored best even than Moses!

Jesus didn't even have any nation who follows his constitution!

Moses did have!
Muhammad still have!
So how did you classify your failure?

Are the children of Israel still with Jesus today?

They even practice Islam more!

AntiChristian:
■So Muhammad pretended but Jesus didn't right?
■Abeg keep shut! Constitutionally, Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam scored best even than Moses!
■Jesus didn't even have any nation who follows his constitution! Moses did have! Muhammad still have! So how did you classify your failure?■Are the children of Israel still with Jesus today?
They even practice Islam more!

1. Mohammed's problem from the start happens to be a lack of understanding of God, His Law, and His ultimate goal for mankind. Mohammed probably thought it was all about heaven and hell and scarring people using hell into living a moral life— his take on the Law of Moses— on earth but that is far from what is contained in scripture.

2. I am afraid that is wrong! Most of the Nations that existed around the time of Moses had constitutions that shared a lot in common with the Law of Moses. Recall, God gave that Constitution to people, and not gods — it was a moral law. These people had to survive in this world while working their way to complete obedience to the Law as given to them by God. And God was honest with the people that He would eventually curse and scatter them all to the wind for their disobedience of His Law - Deuteronomy 30 vs 1 - 6. And once scattered, they could no longer live by that Constitution as it had no redeeming power for those cursed by it. The last of Israel were scattered almost 2000 years ago, and as such, they can no longer live by that Constitution. Now, this does not mean the Law was abolished — It can never be abolished as that would be the end of God's Israel. Instead, if all the bloodlines are cursed, then it means they need to be reinstated/redeemed via a different Law is. So, when you say Mohammed, a law which you lot live by to this day, a law that does not fit well with current times, is better than the Law of Moses, you are trying to compare ideas that aren't parallel in any sense.

3. Why would Jesus Christ need a Nation to follow Him when He made it clear that His Kingdom is not of this world and those who follow Him are those who become citizens of this nation that is not of this world? God already owns Israel so why would Jesus Christ require another Nation in this world to follow Him? God's plan was to have a Kingdom of Priests of the descendants of Israel - Exodus 19 vs 6 - and Jesus Christ is to facilitate that plan which God made. Moses was the one through whom God delivered the details of that plan to His people, Israel.

Whether Israel follows God or Jesus Christ has never been a big concern if you read closely about what God has planned. The scattered Israel that God is using Israel to gather, does not gather like your religious groups do so there is really no way for you to identify them assuming that is what you are thinking you can do. They cannot announce themselves as Israel and neither will they open businesses that say "JESUS CHRIST" on the banner or something of that nature. No, they live as ordinary people with no affiliation whatsoever to organized religion. So why you think you can somehow know and count them is beyond me.

Sure, Mohammed has many followers from many nations following him but to where? Mohammed gives them all eternal life that is his own and will welcome them all into his own heaven and his own hell. OK! The point is you do him no good attempting to attach him to the people of scripture as right off he is a fraud and nothing more where scripture is concerned — in the same league as all the other false prophets that is the Religion of Christianity. Separate from scripture, like Hinduism, Buddhism, and other non-Abrahamic religions out there, you can maybe get some of what he offers to make sense.

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Acts 4:12... The Lord GOD YESHUA!

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" - Romans 3:23

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." - Romans 6:23

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Kobojunkie:
1. So, this changes what I said how?

2. Again, Christianity is a religion born in this world. God never gave Christianity to men, and so it is not the worship of God but the worship of idols.

oga realise that u are an olodo and rest.

If u are claiming Christmas is a pagan festival then what u are saying was that non chortians were celebrating the birth of Christ even before Christianity was.

The right thing to claim would be some of the practices done during Christmas have pagan origin and them there would be room for argument. Then I can tell u that u are correct. The practice of decorating trees was done my the pagan in that region.
There is a perfect explanation to why Christians still decorate trees but honestly I doubt u have the intellect for us to go on about this. Cuz u don't even understand what the problem is.

AntiChristian:
So you created the thread based on lies which you have no evidence for?

not at all. The problem is that Muslims like to shift the goal post and I didnt have the stomach for it then.

My brother what religion did Mohamed practice before so called God called him?

PROVERBZ:
■ oga realise that u are an olodo and rest. If u are claiming Christmas is a pagan festival then what u are saying was that non chortians were celebrating the birth of Christ even before Christianity was.
■The right thing to claim would be some of the practices done during Christmas have pagan origin and them there would be room for argument. Then I can tell u that u are correct.
■The practice of decorating trees was done my the pagan in that region. There is a perfect explanation to why Christians still decorate trees but honestly I doubt u have the intellect for us to go on about this. Cuz u don't even understand what the problem is.

1. That post of yours does not make sense!

2. You seem to be struggling with comprehension here. You are told that as far as scripture is concern, all practices that are not decreed by God are considered to be of Pagan origin. You confirmed this earlier when you indicated that the early followers considered the religions of those who weren't followers of Jesus Christ to be of Pagan origin. You are then also informed that Christmas is of Pagan origin. Why are you having a hard time correctly linking these facts ?

3. The practice of celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ was not commanded by God hence it it pagan in origin.

Kobojunkie:
1. That post of yours does not make sense!

2. You seem to be struggling with comprehension here. You are told that as far as scripture is concern, all practices that are not decreed by God are considered to be of Pagan origin. You confirmed this earlier when you indicated that the early followers considered the religions of those who weren't followers of Jesus Christ to be of Pagan origin. You are then also informed that Christmas is of Pagan origin. Why are you having a hard time correctly linking these facts ?

3. The practice of celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ was not commanded by God hence it it pagan in origin.

sir no disrespect but u are a waste of my time bye

PROVERBZ:
sir no disrespect but u are a waste of my time bye

You waste your own time attempting to think rationally with blinders on. Your own words indicate you know the truth of this but you vehemently refuse to accept it.

Kobojunkie:
You waste your own time attempting to think rationally with blinders on. Your own words indicate you know the truth of this but you vehemently refuse to accept it.

let me give u and insight into religions and there celebrations.

Jews celebrate Passover because they celebrate a time when God freed them from slavery. And they celebrate that every year to mark this. God did not ask them to do that.

Muslims celebrate Eid because they believe a convent was made between God and man when he provided a sheep for their sacrifice.

Christians celebrate Christmas because of the significance. Christ coming significance salvation for us. If u need celestial assurance that what we do is in accordance with heaven. Then u need to read the Bible when it describes the mood of heaven after the birth of Christ.

PROVERBZ:
not at all. The problem is that Muslims like to shift the goal post and I didnt have the stomach for it then.

My brother what religion did Mohamed practice before so called God called him?

He wasn't a person of religion! He never worshipped nor prostrated to idols. He was known as Al-amin aka the trustworthy! Even when wine was still permitted he never drank it.

Even the Kaaba you mentioned had several idols till he ordered the destruction of them all.
I haven't shifted any goal post since!
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Even Christianity and Judaism are not written as a religion anywhere in your Bible!

What religion did Jesus practice in the Bible? Give the verses where he established it?

PROVERBZ:
■Jews celebrate Passover because they celebrate a time when God freed them from slavery. And they celebrate that every year to mark this. God did not ask them to do that.
■Muslims celebrate Eid because they believe a convent was made between God and man when he provided a sheep for their sacrifice.
■Christians celebrate Christmas because of the significance. Christ coming significance salvation for us. If u need celestial assurance that what we do is in accordance with heaven.
■Then u need to read the Bible when it describes the mood of heaven after the birth of Christ.

1. Israelites— not just the Jews— celebrate Passover because God commanded them to do just that, every year, forever in Exodus 12 and Leviticus 23 hence Passover is not a Pagan Holiday for the people of Israel.

2. Muslims are not of God hence all they do is considered Pagan to scripture.

3. Jesus Christ never instructed His followers to celebrate His birthday and as such, He gave no man permission to use His name for such a celebration meaning that those who celebrate Christmas as the birthday of Jesus Christ sin against God by their celebrations.

4. Jesus Christ did not ask any of His followers to celebrate the mood of Heaven for His birthday.

AntiChristian:
He wasn't a person of religion! He never worshipped nor prostrated to idols. He was known as Al-amin aka the trustworthy! Even when wine was still permitted he never drank it.

Even the Kaaba you mentioned had several idols till he ordered the destruction of them all.
I haven't shifted any goal post since!
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Even Christianity and Judaism are not written as a religion anywhere in your Bible!

What religion did Jesus practice in the Bible? Give the verses where he established it?

Jesus was Jewish born and died Jewish.

Sir I cannot argue with u cuz u like to tell urself lies.

Mohamed was a idol worshipper even abraham was an idol worshiper there is no shame. I wonder why Muslims like to lie so it seems there religion was pure.
So Mohammed was atheist ?

Kobojunkie:
1. Israelites— not just the Jews— celebrate Passover because God commanded them to do just that, every year, forever in Exodus 12 and Leviticus 23 hence Passover is not a Pagan Holiday for the people of Israel.

2. Muslims are not of God hence all they do is considered Pagan to scripture.

3. Jesus Christ never instructed His followers to celebrate His birthday and as such, He gave no man permission to use His name for such a celebration meaning that those who celebrate Christmas as the birthday of Jesus Christ sin against God by their celebrations.

4. Jesus Christ did not ask any of His followers to celebrate the mood of Heaven for His birthday.

u are right celebrate Passover we will celebrate Christmas.

PROVERBZ:
u are right celebrate Passover we will celebrate Christmas.

A follower of Jesus Christ is bound to the New Covenant and not to God's Old Covenant and as such cannot mix New Wine with Old Wine. Jesus Christ taught this to His followers. If you had been paying attention to Him rather than following religious doctrines which are of pagan origin,you would know this. Anyways, to a follower of Jesus Christ, Passover is essentially off the limits as a result.

Christmas is a Pagan holiday--- has absolutely no association with Jesus Christ, no different from Halloween, Mardi Gras, independence day, Easte, etc.. they are all pagan holidays and should be celebrated as such.

PROVERBZ:
Jesus was Jewish born and died Jewish.

I asked of his religion. Did he practiced Judaism till he died? Give evidence! Liars have no verifiable evidence! Bring your Bible verses!

Sir I cannot argue with u cuz u like to tell urself lies.

So far in this thread you haven't brought just one verifiable and contextual evidence to substantiate any of your claims!

Mohamed was a idol worshipper even abraham was an idol worshiper there is no shame. I wonder why Muslims like to lie so it seems there religion was pure.
So Mohammed was atheist ?

Where are the evidence for your lies?

Jesus may have also been an idol worshiper from 15 to 29 years in the Bible as those information were not included in your Bible!
I wonder why Christians have been telling us lies all these while!

I know to you a kid left alone in the wild will practice the religion of the wild!

He wasn't atheist! And he was never an idolator! Same as Abraham!

Kobojunkie:
A follower of Jesus Christ is bound to the New Covenant and not to God's Old Covenant and as such cannot mix New Wine with Old Wine. Jesus Christ taught this to His followers. If you had been paying attention to Him rather than following religious doctrines which are of pagan origin,you would know this. Anyways, to a follower of Jesus Christ, Passover is essentially off the limits as a result.

Christmas is a Pagan holiday--- has absolutely no association with Jesus Christ, no different from Halloween, Mardi Gras, independence day, Easte, etc.. they are all pagan holidays and should be celebrated as such.

even after explaining what a pagan is u still don't know how to place 2 and 2.
The are Christians and there are pagans Christmas is a holiday observed by Christians no pagans nobody cares for Ur interpretation of if religion is man made or not. That's what I want u to understand.

PROVERBZ:
even after explaining what a pagan is u still don't know how to place 2 and 2.
The are Christians and there are pagans Christmas is a holiday observed by Christians no pagans nobody cares for Ur interpretation of if religion is man made or not. That's what I want u to understand.

Again, Christmas is a Pagan holiday--- has absolutely no association with Jesus Christ, no different from Halloween, Mardi Gras, independence day, Easte, etc.. they are all pagan holidays and should be celebrated as such.

AntiChristian:
I asked of his religion. Did he practiced Judaism till he died? Give evidence! Liars have no verifiable evidence! Bring your Bible verses!

So far in this thread you haven't brought just one verifiable and contextual evidence to substantiate any of your claims!


Where are the evidence for your lies?

Jesus may have also been an idol worshiper from 15 to 29 years in the Bible as those information were not included in your Bible!
I wonder why Christians have been telling us lies all these while!

to thinkin that I even considered converting to Islam once is so funny. Tiktok algorithm almost fooled me. I kept in seeing videos of white women claiming they converted to Islam and I became curios why.

After dividing deeper I realised a community of ex Muslims and they put me back on the right track.

PROVERBZ:
to thinkin that I even considered converting to Islam once is so funny. Tiktok algorithm almost fooled me. I kept in seeing videos of white women claiming they converted to Islam and I became curios why.

After dividing deeper I realised a community of ex Muslims and they put me back on the right track.

Mr bleeper! The Christian hypocrite!

See person wey won become Muslim!

See person wey create thread to spite Muslims!

Fornication na Christian thing or just catholic?

AntiChristian:
Mr bleeper! The Christian hypocrite!

search more. Before I became infatuated with defending Christianity. I was all over romance section and that was the kind of life I lived. No shame. It's u who is ashamed to acknowledge Ur prophet was pagan and immoral.

If u even search more u would uncover that at some point I was also atheist.

PROVERBZ:
search more. Before I became infatuated with defending Christianity. I was all over romance section and that was the kind of life I lived. No shame. It's u who is ashamed to acknowledge Ur prophet was pagan and immoral.

If u even search more u would uncover that at some point I was also atheist.

I don't need to search further! The audacity of posting such bleeps online is saddening!

You're still a kid growing up!

Since you have no evidence for the immorality or paganism then let's just call you a liar!

I have evidences of your immorality in this thread!
Bring your evidences if you're not a Liar!
It may even be a lie/damage control that you've repented.

But woe to those who have spoiled the life of many ladies but would want the best for their daughter and sisters!