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| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by ruffDiamond: 7:41am On Jan 06, 2023 |
baretalk:there is nothing worse than a corrupt cop anywhere in the world! The greatest miscarriage of justice is for an innocent man be convicted and jailed. Even the jungle has some kind of natural order and setting not this banana republic where even an armed police believe he can do whatever he like simply because he's given a gun 98% of the NPF are corrupt, don't know or follow the law and are mostly often grossly unprofessional ![]() |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by Risingblue008(m): 7:41am On Jan 06, 2023 |
Gd3 |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by IamtheTruth1(m): 7:42am On Jan 06, 2023 |
tk4radi:Let the IGP first start from releasing those new people arrested for insulting the First Lady. Then we would all agree that he is working to remove "Order from Above" |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by JoeNL22(m): 7:47am On Jan 06, 2023 |
Omowale Omoluabi Obi will ensure improved standardization cum may, 2023 |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by remmer56(m): 7:51am On Jan 06, 2023 |
tk4radi:I get one plate of this for you. Your school when you go no waste. I hope you’d vote wisely so we can utilise such knowledge in the coming modern Nigeria. Not these analogue purposing politicians kind of Nigeria o. God bless you!
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| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by toxtimmy: 8:00am On Jan 06, 2023 |
Tata there.... You building a house on sand.... What is a database,?... Where are they standing up database in igp office or datacenter or cloud?...who maintains database?...what information is going to be in database? Who gets access to database to use? Who disconnects access to database?.....whats the cyber security plan and cost to keep database safe year in year out? .. is excel document a database?....what is the training plan to use database?...will there be budget from the Nigerian police force for the rest of its entirety to maintain database?... What are the plans and cost of gadgets to use database including maintenance and upgrades?...What are the privacy plan for database? How would a policeman on the road access database when not sitting in front of a computer? Etc etc etc and remember you need nepa to run database and disaster recovery plans and high availability...basically a database that is not 99.9% available is not reliable My point is they are looking to get billions of naiara to steal from for a project to no where. Common instruction from numerous igp to stop road block for the past 30 to 40 years the Nigerian police cannot implement ... Now you talking of a database? If the really want a database they can start by using Excel files with guardrails while the restructure the Nigerian police force into state police... With a federal police somewhere at the top... because if you want to eat elephant you break it down into pieces. Lastly they should publicly put a request for private companies to bid and build the system (no foreign company) so the enterprising and technically sound nigerians with experience can build this system and maintain by creating jobs for at the very least thousands of nigerians from this project. Lastly you can't build a database system without a plan and design... Show me plan and design interaction model of the personas that will use database then we can then maybe start talking.....in other words before even Nigerian police make this announcement they should have done the preliminary ground work to capture and document what I mentioned above first before anything. broadman20: |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by 1Alex: 8:19am On Jan 06, 2023 |
tk4radi:I think they should also be given direct access to the GSM database for calls and sms instead of always going to the telecom service providers. |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by Henryfortune(m): 8:22am On Jan 06, 2023 |
Karlovych:What are you saying isn't this too early.... but I hope you have taken your drugs |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by Henryfortune(m): 8:26am On Jan 06, 2023 |
Another important thing is to have a standard Data base collection and another standard unit of CCTV footage analysis department in all areas of not most in all Police units across the country this way it's check and balance will be easier tk4radi: |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by tk4radi(op): 8:41am On Jan 06, 2023 |
lexy2014:In the Police formation, they obey the “last” order. So, once the order is given, it is as good as done. |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by tk4radi(op): 8:46am On Jan 06, 2023 |
beardedboy:This last line is just the main summary of everything |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by HellVictorinho6(m): 8:48am On Jan 06, 2023 |
orisa37:Define suspected phone numbers |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by HellVictorinho6(m): 8:51am On Jan 06, 2023 |
Henryfortune:For as long as they keep useless prisons.....,I curse the day I started knowing of anything about the police or those using them. Spits |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by HellVictorinho6(m): 8:52am On Jan 06, 2023 |
ruffDiamond:The law itself is part of performance..... whoever gives a furk anywhere. |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by tk4radi(op): 8:53am On Jan 06, 2023*. Modified: 9:09am On Jan 06, 2023 |
lexy2014:Can Investigations be done without having enough information? Can information be gotten without having access to where the information is?? Doesn't information come in form of data which are processed based on need for the information that was sought? The raw unprocessed data needed for the information, are they not stored in various databases..?? So, what exactly are you saying here? I guess you know why the proposed NIN-SIM Linkage is still not yet working (as proposed) in solving criminal investigations in Nigeria.?? IT'S BECAUSE THE NIGERIAN POLICE DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE NIN-SIM UNIFIED DATABASE YET.. And who do we now blame for this unfathomable delay?? ... .. Meanwhile, you missed my point about the “slightly distorted narrative” line. I was referring to the full digitisation, and inter-connectivity of the activities of the Nigerian Police. Even if the narrative was not even “slightly distorted” in any way, but it was reported by a totally different person against the same earlier person in question, in another station altogether.... I am telling you that the Next Station wouldn't know that another station elsewhere had already taken up the case, and had started working on the investigations already. MUST WE CONTINUE LIKE THIS IN THIS COUNTRY?? WHEN WILL OUR POLICE GO FULLY DIGITAL.?? |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by tk4radi(op): 9:03am On Jan 06, 2023 |
blinking001:If only police is “helpable”, then we can help them. But NO. Police is no longer about the POLICE,, but now about the Policemen. They want money more than the honour and responsibility. |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by tk4radi(op): 9:18am On Jan 06, 2023 |
toxtimmy:I see.. And because they would prefer corruption,, they wouldn't want any form of automated databases. |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by tk4radi(op): 9:20am On Jan 06, 2023 |
STEWpid:These are just the main reasons why the Nigerian Police can never ever get things right. All these orders they are dishing out are just eye-service orders |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by tk4radi(op): 9:28am On Jan 06, 2023*. Modified: 10:20am On Jan 06, 2023 |
toxtimmy:I think I understand you very well. But we are NOT happy that the only agent of the government which is fully and LEGALLY responsible for all types of INVESTIGATIONS in the country, are the ones who are the most poorly indulged with the management and handling of data and information.. Or do we need another Government Investigation Institution? All these questions you are asking,, some private firms (with branches) have solved them already, and are moving further. Or, are you saying that the Government cannot solve the problems, and get the Nigerian Police well equipped with proper information-sharing and prompt communication systems? |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by Nobody: 9:28am On Jan 06, 2023*. Modified: 12:15pm On Jan 06, 2023 |
State or regional policing is the answer. What Nigerians don't understand is that regional, administrative and political autonomy, that weakens the thieving and ultra-incompetent centre, is the key to making Nigeria better. Even those traditionally prone to underperforming will sit up and improve when they see others doing better. What we have currently is a worthless 'one Nigeria' system, perhaps worst in the world, that makes it a thing of pride to underperform, steal and abuse office. |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by Bigchristo: 9:44am On Jan 06, 2023 |
tk4radi:story as always, trust NPF at your own risk |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by toxtimmy: 9:59am On Jan 06, 2023 |
Exactly... Like I did a project for city in Canada years and years ago. Before the mayor signs a cheque so many things have to take place via technology systems aka using database, so many people need to approve on various levels via technology aka using databases...and everything is auditable just by a simply query...and the logs cannot be deleted so anytime you can audit and see if things are out of place or not by an auditor that comes in unannounced every year. now fast forward to my trip to government house in my state here in Nigeria... I sit down for chair there and see where governor they give order to his ADC to give Mr. A $5000 and ADC go go inside room come back with that money and give the person... Mind you there are so many people dem they do this to everyday...because it's all cash and cannot be tracked...with a simple policy of every spend must be a cheque or wire transfer (a database involved...no cash and it will be hard for people to steal...and even though they steal they can't hide once it's audited) Now back to police matter ... What do you think police will do if you go to them with facts say governor or civil servant a or c stole millions of naira and you give them facts to support your accusation even video proof of the governor stealing the money? tk4radi: |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by toxtimmy: 10:09am On Jan 06, 2023 |
For the past 35 years in Nigeria all igp give order say there should be no road blocks... Or police taking bribes... These are direct orders from igps... So tell me what have those orders accomplished?... What is the root cause of these orders not being accomplished? Is it because police men in Nigeria are sub humans or mentally retarded or just too godly to follow simply instructions and their policy and the oath they took to be police men? Before database becomes a priority for the police force they should prioritise and clean the force to have honest men and women in there. To close, Nigeria air is still grounded after spending billions of naira and announcements... Nigeria air only exist in paper and there is not even one airplane tire Nigeria air have in its possession although billions have spent on Nigeria air. toxtimmy: |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by tk4radi(op): 10:17am On Jan 06, 2023*. Modified: 11:49am On Jan 06, 2023 |
Henryfortune:The individual Policemen should also have body-radios with gps-locator-chips (or better-still body-cameras), and then, they should always Activate such body gadgets whenever they are on active duty.. Thus, if there should be any resultant tragedy from such activities of theirs, there would be instant information from such gadgets that are readily available, and that would help in the Investigation of such tragedies. Failure to activate their body-gadgets during an active engagement, and tragedy happens, all the officers on duty at that particular post are going in for serious sanctions |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by tk4radi(op): 10:22am On Jan 06, 2023 |
toxtimmy:I really don't want to say this... But then, we still have a very very long way to go in Nigeria.. |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by juri: 11:29am On Jan 06, 2023 |
tk4radi:Intelligent perspectives like yours stated above is why I still believe nairaland is worth the visit from time to time. |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by Nobody: 11:34am On Jan 06, 2023 |
Standardizing rubbish. |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by MrColdsweat: 11:37am On Jan 06, 2023 |
tk4radi:The ogas at the top would rather loot the money for this project. |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by orisa37: 12:12pm On Jan 06, 2023 |
Define suspected phone numbers:- Bank Robbers. YAHOO YAHOO BOYS. MEDIA FRAUDSTERS. THEY ARE IN OUR BANKS, MTN, AIRTEL, POLICE, MILITARY ETCETERA ETCETERA. THESE NUMBERS I SUSPECT AND I'M INVESTIGATING:- 2348134326721 2347044863620 2347036146776 |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by Ten06(m): 1:07pm On Jan 06, 2023 |
Is pastor Landon working for Nairaland? Why is he always talking to me anytime I want to move from one page to another in nairaland? |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by lexy2014: 3:36pm On Jan 06, 2023 |
tk4radi:What is the correlation between "slightly distorted narrative” and "full digitisation, and inter-connectivity of the activities of the Nigerian Police"? Meanwhile, you haven't answered the questions I asked... If someone comes to a police station with a "slightly distorted narrative", why should that affect the result of the investigation? Is that not why there must be an investigation to ascertain the veracity of a complaints story? If the police obtain different results from one investigation, shouldn't it be a result of the failure of police investigative processes which are usually about helping the highest bidder than ensuring justice? Why are you blaming poor database for bad police work? According you "But here we are in Nigeria, we have a very docile police system who doesn't even have the slightest access to any privileged information or intelligence." Am glad you called it "docile police system ". Is it lack of database that made the system "docile"? Is it availability of database that will make it not to be docile? If you fix the docility, how database fix it? It's funny that you say police don't have access to intelligence. Who will give them that access? Isn't their job to source for intelligence to get things done? |
| Re: IGP Standardizes Police Investigation Process by lexy2014: 3:38pm On Jan 06, 2023 |
tk4radi:How does obeying the last order automatically mean that this order has been implemented? Has the order been implemented? |
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