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MaxInDHouse:
I never invited you in here so if you're not OK with what i'm saying take the exit door.
I have many Bible students who are well educated and understand English much more than you but when i tell them believe connotes trust they're happy to know how true it is!

tctrills:
Oga this is a public forum na. We don't invite or uninvite in this platform. Lol.

But even to your bible students, you should not create definitions from thin air just to confuse them.

If your students actually believe that believe and trust are the same, that means they are not as educated as you claim.

And don't forget, you were replying me when you claimed that trust means believe. So you don't need to pretend that you were engaging with your students.

oteneaaron:
My forefathers?
They are my forefathers as much as they are your forefathers too.
Unless you weren't born a Nigerian.
Why don't you do the research and find out what they said about the origin of life?
So where is your proof that these DEMONS got the "ideas" from the garden of Eden?
Moreso, what is this "idea" you speak about?

oteneaaron:
But how can trust and belief mean the same thing?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus was born 2023 years ago but tales of virgin giving birth has been in pagan traditions in other nations centuries before then.

So wait and find out why it's so!

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not interested in what forefathers believe it's you that's interested in it so go gather your friends to know what they believe so you can continue worshiping what they worshiped before now, as for me and my own household it's JEHOVAH the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob we will worship!

IslamIsIdiotic:
Most of those "tales" like those of Mithras and Budda were invented by followers of those gods who wanted to make their deities more like Jesus
In India for example, Hindus regard Jesus as a god or an "ascended master"

tctrills:
Oga this is a public forum na. We don't invite or uninvite in this platform. Lol.
But even to your bible students, you should not create definitions from thin air just to confuse them.
If your students actually believe that believe and trust are the same, that means they are not as educated as you claim.
And don't forget, you were replying me when you claimed that trust means believe. So you don't need to pretend that you were engaging with your students.

IslamIsIdiotic:
Most of those "tales" like those of Mithras and Budda were invented by followers of those gods who wanted to make their deities more like Jesus
In India for example, Hindus regard Jesus as a god or an "ascended master"

oteneaaron:
You are worshiping ENLIL.
I don't have to worship anything or anybody outside myself...
Look within!

tctrills:
MaxInDHouse says it's his personal definition so I can't argue with that. In our world today, we have men who believe they are women so I respect his opinion even though he is wrong and unfortunately he is teaching it to his students

MaxInDHouse:
All you have to do is calm down and learn but if you believe you know better go out there and TEACH what you know this is all about me and my discoveries in driving home my point when teaching others to understand!

MaxInDHouse:
My students are also fishers of men like myself who are fully competent and completely equipped for the assignment so we use the uncommon sense when studying God's word that's why we are unique.

BELIEVE and TRUST have the same meaning when looking at it from the viewpoint of the Bible's Author that's what you need to know.

But if you want to rely on what the world says go and use their understanding we are working for someone and we need to deliver! Matthew 25:14-30

oteneaaron:
So which came first?

Christianity is just a cheap copy of these older religions.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not interested in what forefathers believe it's you that's interested in it so go gather your friends to know what they believe so you can continue worshiping what they worshiped before now, as for me and my own household it's JEHOVAH the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob we will worship!

tctrills:
I have learnt so much from many people on this platform but what you begin to teach something that is clearly wrong, there I draw the line. I mean, you can't be teaching your students that believe means trust na. What is the point in confusing them?
If you want to be a teacher, be a teacher of truth.

tctrills:
The scripture your mentioned Matthew 25:14-30 does not teach that believe is trust. I am not sure you even read the verses. Those verses speak about the talent and not believe or trust If you teach what the bible says, no one would argue with you.

sonmvayina:
So when did the God of Abraham, isaac and Jacob say he was going to impregnate another man's wife to sire a son?

MaxInDHouse:
Now i know your problem, you're thinking my students are kids right?
Well for your information most of them are far older than me, i have a lawyer two, bankers and a doctor as well as lecturers who wants to learn from me. So when i say "STUDENTS" you should know that it's like when Jesus is teaching and most of his disciples are far older than him. It's you people that doesn't value wisdom. Those that value it book appointment with me for their Bible studies!



Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, see churchgoers and lack of knowledge! Why not just ask of the correlation between what we're discussing and the quoted scriptures?
Well this is what it means:

God's Holy Spirit gave Jesus' disciples different gifts {Ephesians 4:11} each is expected to make disciples for the master through the gift in their possession. The ability to think deeper and bring out the import of certain words is my own gift. So when i say "BELIEVE means TRUST" most of my students don't argue like you guys here rather they patiently ask "where is the correlation?"
But since you think i'm wrong go and work out how to make disciples if you feel you're a real Christian!

tctrills:
I don't care the age of your students even adults are brainwashed.
The more I discuss with you, the clearer it seems that you never read the verses you mention. It's laziness. I advise you to read before sending.

IslamIsIdiotic:
Christianity came first. The latter day adherents of those pagan religions began to copy elements from the Bible and incorporate them into their religions.
For example, the cult of Mithras existed during the days of the early Church and they began to associate the divinity of Jesus with the person of their god Mithras. This happened in places like Corinth and Antioch where the cult had many members.

MaxInDHouse:
What has your forefathers got to say about the origin of life?

budaatum:
Read it out loud so you hear how you sound, Max.

MaxInDHouse:
And do you think i give a damn what you think?
I'm here to discuss with whoever finds my thread insightful not people like you who still doubts everything even the Bible itself you can't defend with competence.
So you don't worth considering with whatever you may think?

MaxInDHouse:
You and i can never ever be on the same page so GOODBYE!

IslamIsIdiotic:
Christianity came first. The latter day adherents of those pagan religions began to copy elements from the Bible and incorporate them into their religions.

For example, the cult of Mithras existed during the days of the early Church and they began to associate the divinity of Jesus with the person of their god Mithras. This happened in places like Corinth and Antioch where the cult had many members.

IslamIsIdiotic:
Christianity came first. The latter day adherents of those pagan religions began to copy elements from the Bible and incorporate them into their religions.
For example, the cult of Mithras existed during the days of the early Church and they began to associate the divinity of Jesus with the person of their god Mithras. This happened in places like Corinth and Antioch where the cult had many members.

tctrills:
It's not about what I think. It's about you being an honest and upright person.
It's wrong to just float any scripture without even knowing what it says.

budaatum:
Max, you knew, I, buda, is on this page before you opened a thread and wrote it, and you knew buda will read what you wrote and if compelled comment. So here we are. In the Kingdom Hall. Worshipping together. As we do. Or do you not yet trust and believe that is what this is after all these years?

You are very welcome to say goodbye and leave if you want to, it's your thread. Just let the door knock sense into your skull on the way out please.

MaxInDHouse:
I laugh in Chinese!

Who is worshiping with you?

budaatum:
Every time we discuss here in this Kingdom where we both dwell, you are worshipping with me. Or rather, we are worshipping together. Unless you want to claim you are fighting me instead, of course.
Or don't you trust and believe anymore?

MaxInDHouse:
Please open your Bible to Genesis 3:15 and read with me:

And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.”

This is where all the demons (later driven out from God's presence) got the idea that the child who will destroy Satan will be born not through the lineage of Adam's sons because none of Adam's descendants can't redeem any of their kind {Psalms 49:7-9} since they're all sinners unworthy of such a task {Romans 3:23} they sensed that the only way out for innocent descendants of Adam is for a perfect human having equal wait like Adam to come and pay the ransom {1Corinthians 15:45} this means that child must be divine in nature!

To be continued...

MaxInDHouse:
That day God declared His judgment all angels were alert listening to what will happen to the three rebels that got their Creator annoyed so after Adam's death and nothing happened to Satan many angels followed his path as they abandoned their positions in heaven to come and enjoy sexual relations with female humans, they formed bodies for themselves using the dust of the earth since they knew that's what God used in creating bodies for humans but they can't make it live so they entered into the bodies they made and as they formed finest as in fittest structures coupled with their high intellect and abilities to make things happen easily all the females they went for fell for them! Genesis 6:1-2
This was what led to the birth of wicked giants in Noah's days as the unnatural mating can't produce normal children {Genesis 6:4} the fallen angels had supernatural powers to deal with their gigantic sons but what about normal humans who doesn't understand what was happening? Everyone began looking for ways to defend themselves as the giants were taking whatever they want by force without working, they are into all forms of immoral acts and forcing their ways all through, this led to chaos and there was no peace on earth! Genesis 6:5

You all know the rest of the story as God made water to destroy that generation saving only Noah and his family who WORKED with God to preserve the lives of all the animals.

But what happened to the fallen angels in human bodies?
Since they're spirit beings possessing bodies they easily dropped off the bodies they put on and returned to their former abode (heaven) well they were shocked as God didn't allow them back into the family of His loyal sons so they were excommunicated only to start imagining what will later become of them! 1Peter 3:19-20; 2Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6

This is where the lies about the living dead came from!
Normal humans die with nothing left after we die but those demons never died they only dropped their fleshy bodies they're the ones promoting the idea of soul or spirit surviving humans after death, according to God's word when we die nothing survives our bodies {Ecclesiastes 9:4-10} everything goes blank until we are called back to life! Job 14:13-15

Satan and his cohorts keep promoting the lies that something survives the human body after death but where is Adam?

They were left idle! As powerful spirit beings that can't feel comfortable without doing anything they were employed by Satan to work with him in opposing God's sovereignty that's why they returned to the earth after the flood has subsided and stationed themselves in various locations until God scattered humans all over the earth. Anywhere humans get to a demon is already waiting to welcome them and become their god/deity they will worship and since God keeps His side of the deal that humans can rule themselves successfully without God's intervention He allowed humans to sought themselves out so the demons began indoctrinating Adams descendants with different doctrines in the name of various gods. This is the condition all humans found themselves until God called Abraham out of the most influential city of that time in other to start preparing for the birth of that promised child! Genesis 12:1-3

Abraham has heard of the story that a child will be born who will undo all the works of Satan but when will this child be born?
Through whom will the child be born?

Abraham felt highly privileged when God told him that this child will come through Abraham's lineage!

To be continued...

MaxInDHouse:
From Abraham down to David the promise has continued so all the demons (pagan gods) keep speculating how gods were born in one place after another so that by the time Christ is born it won't be anything special after all it has been heard in various pagan traditions!

Well by the time the real promised child was born Satan can't keep it low he quickly turned into a fake Star and led his agents to Herod the great, was it to to get baby Jesus killed before his time? Naaaaaaaaaaaaa! Satan knew that he can't kill Jesus but to make the baby start doing supernatural thing so as to alert all God's enemies but God told Joseph to take the baby away until Herod the great died.

So it was all fabricated to discredit the Christ!

MaxInDHouse:
Helloooooo!
Go for your medication!

You and i aren't worshiping the same God and can never ever worship together so stop dreaming!