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When it comes to water pressure from overhead tank, I think all of you are correct in a way. Apart from preference in water pressure (what is satisfactory to me might not work for you), there ways to achieve a decent water pressure for shower.

It is acceptable that the higher the tank the more pressure of the water flow. I think Michlins take is the value in raising such a taller tank stand.

There are many ways to achieve "excellent" water pressure without building tower of David.

First, you must run the pipes from the tank to top most floor directly. (This is the reason why the pressure of water on the roof is better than the one on a stand of the same height.) It does not look neat but it works. Then work your way down the floors. The idea of running the pipe down first before going upstairs waste some pressure.

Secondly, you must incorporate pipe reduction to achieve better water pressure. Pvc or copper pipe reducers should not be hard to find.

In the end, you just want to enjoy shower and forget about stress.

When we start having 24/7 electricity this small thing will replace those heavy tanks

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nwaorlu:


When it comes to water pressure from overhead tank, I think all of you are correct in a way. Apart from preference in water pressure (what is satisfactory to me might not work for you), there ways to achieve a decent water pressure for shower.

It is acceptable that the higher the tank the more pressure of the water flow. I think Michlins take is the value in raising such a taller tank stand.

There are many ways to achieve "excellent" water pressure without building tower of David.

First, you must run the pipes from the tank to top most floor directly. (This is the reason why the pressure of water on the roof is better than the one on a stand of the same height.) It does not look neat but it works. Then work your way down the floors. The idea of running the pipe down first before going upstairs waste some pressure.

Secondly, you must incorporate pipe reduction to achieve better water pressure. Pvc or copper pipe reducers should not be hard to find.

In the end, you just want to enjoy shower and forget about stress.

When we start having 24/7 electricity this small thing will replace those heavy tanks

I have explained this earlier, system of running your pipe from top downward and then go up again to serve the upper floor( 95 pec of my pipe system goes this way BUT yet there must still be an adequate height to achieve this, if not you will still get low pressure at upper floor.
There are many ways I adopted to achieved adequate pressure for in my project.


The second option you mentioned os very common here as far back as 20year ago ( pressure tank/ pressure pump ) the issue with this is electricity,,”No light No water “
Secondly you must use a very good materials for the type of system reason why I always advise my clients to use this pipe and fittings pics below ) so in future if need be to use pressure pump/ pressure tank

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Hello guys,
Please I have a question @everyone. Assuming the exact surface area of a roof is 100sqm but owner buys 125sqm to account for waste, will the installation fee be calculated with 100sqm or 125sqm? Thanks.

Rany4all:
Hello guys,
Please I have a question @everyone. Assuming the exact surface area of a roof is 100sqm but owner buys 125sqm to account for waste, will the installation fee be calculated with 100sqm or 125sqm? Thanks.

100sqm

redgem:


100sqm

Thank you. That's exactly what I'm trying to explain to this installer, but the guy no wan hear word. His problem is that he can't even calculate the area of the roof (his calculation was even far less than the actual area of the roof), so he's using the total square meter bought to calculate his fee.

I have shown him the area as calculated from the architectural design (and the roof was done exactly as designed), and explained to him that 25% was added to account for waste, but this guy still insists I pay for his ignorance

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Rany4all:
Hello guys,
Please I have a question @everyone. Assuming the exact surface area of a roof is 100sqm but owner buys 125sqm to account for waste, will the installation fee be calculated with 100sqm or 125sqm? Thanks.

Labor charge is not just the amount required for nailing the tiles on the wood. There are other logistics.
Did the installer give the labor charge as per square on the original quote or was it a ball pack?
Go back and look at the quote, if there is no place something like below was stated

AB amount by 125sqm = x amount

Then, pay him the complete money. He might have charged just by eye balling.

sonnie10:

Labor charge is not just the amount required for nailing the tiles on the wood. There are other logistics.
Did the installer give the labor charge as per square on the original quote or was it a ball pack?
Go back and look at the quote, if there is no place something like below was stated

AB amount by 125sqm = x amount

Then, pay him the complete money. He might have charged just by eye balling.

regular W

sonnie10:

Labor charge is not just the amount required for nailing the tiles on the wood. There are other logistics.
Did the installer give the labor charge as per square on the original quote or was it a ball pack?
Go back and look at the quote, if there is no place something like below was stated

AB amount by 125sqm = x amount

Then, pay him the complete money. He might have charged just by eye balling.

The agreement before he took the job was 200/sqm....this is not in contention.

The problem now is both of us have different understanding of what that sqm entails...does it include the entire sqm of rectangular sheets needed including the off-cuts, or just the actual area of roof covered excluding the off-cuts?

I want to fix a sliding window in my house; but I am confused about using a sliding net or a permanent net. Pls if money is not an issue, which of them does a better job of protecting against insects.

Rany4all:
The agreement before he took the job was 200/sqm....this is not in contention.

The problem now is both of us have different understanding of what that sqm entails...does it include the entire sqm of rectangular sheets needed including the off-cuts, or just the actual area of roof covered excluding the off-cuts?

He is the one doing the cut off. It takes labor to do that.

ehay:
I want to fix a sliding window in my house; but I am confused about using a sliding net or a permanent net. Pls if money is not an issue, which of them does a better job of protecting against insects.

Go permanent net and let it be install at the external part

Rany4all:
Thank you. That's exactly what I'm trying to explain to this installer, but the guy no wan hear word. His problem is that he can't even calculate the area of the roof (his calculation was even far less than the actual area of the roof), so he's using the total square meter bought to calculate his fee.

I have shown him the area as calculated from the architectural design (and the roof was done exactly as designed), and explained to him that 25% was added to account for waste, but this guy still insists I pay for his ignorance

Do they charge per sqm for roofing or they just give their price?

sonnie10:

He is the one doing the cut off. It takes labor to do that.

When you pay a brick layer per block laid, it also takes labour to break blocks, but agreement is agreement. If the brick layer breaks a block into 2 pcs and only lays 1 pc, you count only the pc laid, and not the pc wasted. If he laid both pcs from 1 block, it is counted as 2 pcs laid.

The same applies to roofing, only the areas laid are counted, and not the off-cuts.

redgem:



Do they charge per sqm for roofing or they just give their price?

They do either. It all depends on your agreement.

sonnie10:

Labor charge is not just the amount required for nailing the tiles on the wood. There are other logistics.
Did the installer give the labor charge as per square on the original quote or was it a ball pack?
Go back and look at the quote, if there is no place something like below was stated

AB amount by 125sqm = x amount

Then, pay him the complete money. He might have charged just by eye balling.

visaclick:
regular W

This is exactly what went down:

Before I engaged the installer, I hired a Quantity Surveyor on this forum to do the roofing estimate for me (installer did not know this). The QS estimate for the actual area to be covered was 478sqm, but with 25% addition (making 598sqm) to account for wastes.

Now wood work for the roof was done exactly as designed on the architectural drawings (no addition or subtraction) and the final cost of the wood work was very close to the QS estimate as well.

After wood work, I engaged the installer and we agreed 200/sqm as installation fee. He took his measurements, did his calculations and came up with an area of 354sqm to be covered.

Now considering the significant difference between the figures from QS and installer, I decided to go with the installer's figure so as not to incur a huge loss, in case the QS figure was wrong. So I added 25% to installer's estimate and ordered 443sqm, which was made known to installer.

So he did 443sqm initially, and it covered only about 3 quarters of the roof. Installer then calculated the remaining uncovered area, and came up with an additional 150sqm to complete the job. This time though I decided to ignore installer's calculation and went with the original estimate from the QS and got an additional 155sqm to make a total of 598sqm.

The roof was eventually covered with a total of 596sqm, which is in line with the QS estimate.

Now, the installer is insisting his installation fee is 200 × 598 (not even 596 that did the job), while I'm insisting I will only pay for area of roof installed (excluding off-cuts), which should be like 200 × 478 (going by the estimate from QS).

I have told the installer, if he doubts the estimated area from the QS, he can repeat his measurements and calculations, but the guy is saying it will never be the same as that of the QS, that I must pay according to the total area of sheets bought.

Nor be small argument for site today o. We almost came to blows

sonnie10:

He is the one doing the cut off. It takes labor to do that.

In other words, if my floor is 50sqm and I negotiated 1000/sqm with the tiler but I bought 120sqm tiles, then the tiler used/wasted 118sqm, therefore I should pay him 118000 instead of 50000.....

Yes cutting off takes labour therefore if a tiler sneezes I pay, if he dances I pay, if he wastes my tile I still pay.

bobkezel:

In other words, if my floor is 50sqm and I negotiated 1000/sqm with the tiler but I bought 120sqm tiles, then the tiler used/wasted 118sqm, therefore I should pay him 118000 instead of 50000.....

Yes cutting off takes labour therefore if a tiler sneezes I pay, if he dances I pay, if he wastes my tile I still pay.

Rany4all:
This is exactly what went down:

Before I engaged the installer, I hired a Quantity Surveyor on this forum to do the roofing estimate for me (installer did not know this). The QS estimate for the actual area to be covered was 478sqm, but with 25% addition (making 598sqm) to account for wastes.

Now wood work for the roof was done exactly as designed on the architectural drawings (no addition or subtraction) and the final cost of the wood work was very close to the QS estimate as well.

After wood work, I engaged the installer and we agreed 200/sqm as installation fee. He took his measurements, did his calculations and came up with an area of 354sqm to be covered.

Now considering the significant difference between the figures from QS and installer, I decided to go with the installer's figure so as not to incur a huge loss, in case the QS figure was wrong. So I added 25% to installer's estimate and ordered 443sqm, which was made known to installer.

So he did 443sqm initially, and it covered only about 3 quarters of the roof. Installer then calculated the remaining uncovered area, and came up with an additional 150sqm to complete the job. This time though I decided to ignore installer's calculation and went with the original estimate from the QS and got an additional 155sqm to make a total of 598sqm.

The roof was eventually covered with a total of 596sqm, which is in line with the QS estimate.

Now, the installer is insisting his installation fee is 200 × 598 (not even 596 that did the job), while I'm insisting I will only pay for area of roof installed (excluding off-cuts), which should be like 200 × 478 (going by the estimate from QS).

I have told the installer, if he doubts the estimated area from the QS, he can repeat his measurements and calculations, but the guy is saying it will never be the same as that of the QS, that I must pay according to the total area of sheets bought.

Nor be small argument for site today o. We almost came to blows

Don't mind him, you pay for the area he covered.

Rany4all:
When you pay a brick layer per block laid, it also takes labour to break blocks, but agreement is agreement. If the brick layer breaks a block into 2 pcs and only lays 1 pc, you count only the pc laid, and not the pc wasted. If he laid both pcs from 1 block, it is counted as 2 pcs laid.

The same applies to roofing, only the areas laid are counted, and not the off-cuts.

If we apply this your analogy to the roofing, it means you pay for each tile, whether he cuts it or not. That would then be 598 sqm.

michlins:

Bro how much would it cost to do a Tank stand 18ft with standard materials.

Rany4all:
They do either. It all depends on your agreement.

Oh... Okay

Coiner:


Bro how much would it cost to do a Tank stand 18ft with standard materials.

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