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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:21pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:
Whether misplaced or not, whether City players were lazy or not, as soon as Rashford went after the point, he interfered with play.

Note the bolded. What you are talking about is out of context of the point. The point is Rashford, not City defenders or Bruno Fernandes.
The Var reviewed it and didn't find a clear and obvious interference
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:22pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:

No one is talking about that. The offside call was when the pass was made, not when Fernandes hit the ball.
So it would have made sense for an offside call in this scenario since the pass was for Rodri

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:24pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
The Var reviewed it and didn't find a clear and obvious interference

You are going in circles. The point is that the VAR officials made a corrupt and wrong call. I have given you the reasons why they are wrong.

So telling me VAR made the call is devoid of the point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:25pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:

You are going in circles. The point is that the VAR officials made a corrupt and wrong call. I have given you the reasons why they are wrong.

So telling me VAR made the call is devoid of the point.
wink But this was right

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:26pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
So it would have made sense for an offside call in this scenario since the pass was for Rodri


If the ball has gone to Rodri without Mings touching it, the Rodri is offside. As soon as Mings touched the ball, then Rodri is no more offside.

You can only get an offside call when the ball comes directly to you from your teammate. You can not get offside from your opponent.

In that picture, Mings is with the ball and Rodri can not be offside.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:28pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


If the ball has gone to Rodri without Mings touching it, the Rodri is offside. As soon as Mings touched the ball, then Rodri is no more offside.

You can only get an offside call when the ball comes directly to you from your teammate. You can not get offside from your opponent.

In that picture, Mings is with the ball and Rodri can not be offside.
But in today's case the ball went to Fernandes. DeGea--WanBissaka---Casemeiro--Fernandes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:28pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
wink But this was right

In that second pic, the ball had not made contact with Rodri's. In the first picture, it is from the back and we can not see precisely if the ball is off the red zone in the sleeve rule.

The VAR officials could not rule because of no clear evidence to rule.

At that point, I did not argue but learnt from it.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:29pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:

In that second pic, the ball had not made contact with Rodri's. In the first picture, it is from the back and we can not see precisely if the ball is off the red zone in the sleeve rule.

The VAR officials could not rule because of no clear evidence to rule.

At that point, I did not argue but learnt from it.
What part of Rodri's body did the ball touch?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:30pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
But in today's case the ball went to Fernandes. DeGea--WanBissaka---Casemeiro--Fernandes
The point is, as soon as Rashford chased the ball from an offside position, it was offside. Who the ball went to is not the problem. The problem is Rashford chasing the ball from an offside position.

The ball went from Casemeiro to---Rashford chasing the ball from an offside position---to Fernandes.

Offside.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:31pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
What part of Rodri's body did the ball touch?

No enough evidence to rule. That is the point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:32pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:
The point is, as soon as Rashford chased the ball from an offside position, it was offside. Who the ball went to is not the problem. The problem is Rashford chasing the ball from an offside position.

The ball went from Casemeiro to---Rashford chasing the ball from an offside position---to Fernandes.

Offside.
So Rodri didn't chase the ball from an offside position in this case

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:33pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:

No enough evidence to rule. That is the point.
grin grin grin grin Indeed, but there was enough evidence in Rashford's case despite the fact that he never touched any player other than when he was celebrating with Fernandes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:34pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
So Rodri didn't chase the ball from an offside position in this case

As soon as Mings touched the ball, Rodri is no more offside. You can only be offside when your teammate has the ball. Mings is not a Manchester City player. So in that position, Rodri is not offside.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:35pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
grin grin grin grin Indeed, but there was enough evidence in Rashford's case despite the fact that he never touched any player other than when he was celebrating with Fernandes

The point is not touched, but chasing the ball. There is irrevocable evidence that Rashford was offside when Casemiro made the pass and he chased after the ball. So he was offside.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:35pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:

As soon as Mings touched the ball, Rodri is no more offside. You can only be offside when your teammate has the ball. Mings is not a Manchester City player. So in that position, Rodri is not offside.
As soon as Fernandes touched the ball, Rushford was not offside
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:36pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:

The point is not touched, but chasing the ball. There is irrevocable evidence that Rashford was offside when Casemiro made the pass and he chased after the ball. So he is offside.
wink But Rodri is allowed to chase from an offside position

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:36pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
As soon as Fernandes touched the ball, Rushford was not offside
cheesy

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:36pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
As soon as Fernandes touched the ball, Rushford was not offside

Na wa.

It has nothing to do with Fernandes. grin cheesy

The point is Rashford chasing the ball from an offside position.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:37pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:

Na wa.

It has nothing to do with Fernandes. grin cheesy

The point is Rashford chasing the ball from an offside position.
The VAR reviewed it and didn't find any offside
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:37pm On Jan 14, 2023
charlesemeka85:
cheesy
grin grin Only Manchester City is allowed to benefit from VAR, every other team is green Zone and red zone analogy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:41pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
grin grin Only Manchester City is allowed to benefit from VAR, every other team is green Zone and red zone analogy

This is now evasion. You literally failed to address the point and really have not point to make.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 8:45pm On Jan 14, 2023
komekn:
You are very wise as you have been told so much from so many who know,. WISE MAN.
Thanks sir, only trying to be as WISE as you sir, I never even attain a quarter of your wisdom kind sir.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:46pm On Jan 14, 2023
Manuel Akanji to @BBCSport:

"The first goal is a joke it can be allowed. He runs to the last second and stops when the ball is right in front of him and right in front of Eddy to score the goal... He runs for 30 metres, he's chasing the ball. It's clearly off."

[via @_joebray]

It will remain the most ridiculous decision in a long time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:46pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:

This is now evasion. You literally failed to address the point and really have not point to make.
I addressed your point only Rodri and City players are allowed to chase balls from offside positions, this was Darwin Nunez chasing the ball from an offside position leading up to his goal earlier this season against Arsenal. Var reviewed and it still stood as a goal

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:49pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:
Manuel Akanji to @BBCSport:

"The first goal is a joke it can be allowed. He runs to the last second and stops when the ball is right in front of him and right in front of Eddy to score the goal... He runs for 30 metres, he's chasing the ball. It's clearly off."

[via @_joebray]

It will remain the most ridiculous decision in a long time.
wink

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:50pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
grin grin Only Manchester City is allowed to benefit from VAR, every other team is green Zone and red zone analogy
u get tym to argue
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by DEMANDRED: 8:51pm On Jan 14, 2023
As man city don lose Na so so blue font choke everywhere.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:52pm On Jan 14, 2023
Karlovych:
I addressed your point only Rodri and City players are allowed to chase balls from offside positions, this was Darwin Nunez chasing the ball from an offside position leading up to his goal earlier this season against Arsenal. Var reviewed and it still stood as a goal

I can't speak for what I did not watch. The point is very simple. Rashford was offside, chased the ball and thus interfered with play. You are jumping to other scenarios cannot bend the truth.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:52pm On Jan 14, 2023
cheesy
DEMANDRED:
As man city don lose Na so so blue font choke everywhere.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:53pm On Jan 14, 2023
I’ll admit I’d have been extremely annoyed if that goal had been given against us.

From a Manchester United fan. Here, they are trying to defend it. Tells a lot.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:54pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:

I can't speak for what I did not watch. The point is very simple. Rashford was offside, chased the ball and thus interfered with play. You are jumping to other scenarios cannot bend the truth.
VAR reviewed both scenarios and found no evidence of interference
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 8:55pm On Jan 14, 2023
TheGoodJoe:
I’ll admit I’d have been extremely annoyed if that goal had been given against us.

From a Manchester United fan. Here, they are trying to defend it. Tells a lot.
grin grin Did you also watch this one?

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