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Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:13pm On Jan 21, 2023
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:15pm On Jan 21, 2023
Tiopii:
Google it, check online, Actual musicians
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://time.news/musicians-to-cheer-for-russian-soldiers-in-ukraine-russia-sends-opera-singers-and-circus-performers-to-ukraine/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjrkKGZgNn8AhUKyLsIHW3CALQ4ChAWegQIAhAC&usg=AOvVaw2a6SdpJdgZU9EGGaPwtJBZ
They have got to you the matrix has eaten your ability to see clearly lol

Wagner is musicians or bansmen lol.

You can't play music to footballer to play well during match or for warriors during war lol.

They are called musicians because the bombs they use is music and sweet to us the fans.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by BentizilL: 7:21pm On Jan 21, 2023
Tiopii:
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I already said both sides are losing men in the Soledar and Bakmut region, Russia is losing more cos they are on the offensive.

Most of Russia's best trained men started the war, along with the assault of Kiev with failed, most are dead, the remaining have been replaced with new recruits and now behinde enemy lines, why do you think Russia sent their new recruits to be trained in Belarus if they still have their best men with them?? Russia are the ones that train their Men not the other way round..

Imagine being trained by US and her allies and being trained by Belarus. that's the difference in quality and with new military aid arriving the war is bout to get deadlier and more costly.

Russia isn't the US strongest adversary, the rivalry stopped since the end of Cold war and the break up of the Soviet union. The US regard China as their strongest adversary..

One again, Ukraine would match Russia truck for truck of dead bodies. if Ukraine was taking as much lose as you assume, the war would already be over.. if Russia military is as safe as you think, they won't be planning another mobilization.

Russia is buying weapons from Iran and North Korea, you don't seem to understand the implications now and in the long term
They're both on the battlefield so losses are expected on both side but in Soledar and Bakhmut, the Ukrainian are leading Russia by far(mark this) in losses... The 100 truck of dead bodies which will be sent to Ukraine render your submission invalid..

It seems you just started following the SMO, Russia started with DPR and LPR military, Chenchen, Wagner and few Russia main forces all less than 200k.. Russia sent them there to train together with the Belarus army as union state military and Russia is the one training them in Belarus. They're there for military reason not Russia incapability..

Russia is the one training the union state military in Belarus, get informed.. What quality did the US trained soldiers have when they're being like flies in Ukraine? cheesy Even NATO main soldiers turn mercenaries are not spared and dying like flies everyday..

Nothing is getting deadlier, Ukrainian soldiers and NATO soldiers will just die more and Russia will send their dead bodies in trucks to Kiev and other countries just like they're doing now.. Mind you it's only Wagner that's sending the 100 trucks full of dead bodies of Ukrainians and their NATO masters claimed mercenaries... grin

Yes China is economically stronger but we all know the country that make US and it allies shit in their pants always...

I hate people that lie to massage their ego.. sad I know your mouth is shaking when saying Ukraine will match Russia truck for truck of dead bodies.. Why do you always lie?? huh Russia is sending 100 trucks, like 100 trucks full of dead bodies of Ukrainians to them yet you're still saying this.. What do you gain from lying? If Ukraine had 10 trucks full of Russia soldiers dead bodies, the whole western media would've been filled. Even if you're under water, you'll hear the news... cheesy

Give me evidence that Russia is buying weapon from those countries, I'll also give you the list of countries US buys weapons from...

N: I'm allergic to propaganda, I've zero chill for it... kiss
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by BentizilL: 7:45pm On Jan 21, 2023
obedience4:
First of all my apologies for not replying sooner, was busy,
I disagree with your disposition that a part from the USA and some other countries the rest of the alliance are dead weight. The key here is location, take for example without NATO the USA would not have been able to put troops in the Baltic's, now there is a USA Navy base in Latvia, and the UK has a forwards airbase in Estonia, for many years the USA has wanted to challenge the only functional fleet of the Russia navy the black sea fleet headquarters in siverpool.now with Sweden and Finland joining NATO the USA has an excuse to sail a carrier battle group to say the remote Finland island close to siverpool,something the USA will never do,
Those countries maybe small but their close proximity to rusaai makes then big in the hands of the NATO military planners.
And one of the major reasons Putin invaded Ukraine was that NATO was trying to encircled Russia by allowing countries join the alliance, I believe you don't know more than Putin.
USA Early warning systems are all scattered across NATO countries, yet there is not one single Russian military hardware in north America.

and the point you made about Lamborghini in reference to the entire NATO countries defense budget. and the ability to destroy something in minutes, and the reasons why richer people hire security and don't live with the poor
I don't understand how related to the issue we are discussing, maybe i don't understand it, I would like to know more about what point you are trying to pass.
What's does Russia black sea fleet have to do with Finland and Sweden??
What's Siverpool? A name of cockroach? grin

You really need to read up chief.. cheesy
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Otobong3374(m): 7:51pm On Jan 21, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
next page you will see those who like it go Meet them I don't have time for insult.
Shut Your Bleep Up, Okay? Stop Saying Stupid Thing, Troll.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Kingsnairaland(op): 7:55pm On Jan 21, 2023
Otobong3374:
Shut Your Bleep Up, Okay? Stop Saying Stupid Thing, Troll.
move along to the next door I have zero need for insult.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Otobong3374(m): 7:58pm On Jan 21, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
move along to the next door I don't have time for insult.
Thousand Of African Trolls Are Jobless, Such As This One Fool. So Many African Trolls Are Seeking For American Visa, And The Worst Part Is They Are Racists. Give Them Chance They Will Fuckly Come Up With Criminality To Distroy Your Country.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by obedience4(m): 8:20pm On Jan 21, 2023
BentizilL:
What's does Russia black sea fleet have to do with Finland and Sweden??
What's Siverpool? A name of cockroach? grin

You really need to read up chief.. cheesy
Please dude I wasn't replying you, you can go moan somewhere else.
For emphasis sake check the proximity of the Finnish border with Russia, and Russia uses the black sea as a route to supply its base in the artic.

Siverpool was corrected by spell check, I meant Sevastopol...don't argue What do not know.

Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by BentizilL: 8:37pm On Jan 21, 2023
obedience4:
Please dude I wasn't replying you, you can go moan somewhere else.
For emphasis sake check the proximity of the Finnish border with Russia, and Russia uses the black sea as a route to supply its base in the artic.

Siverpool was corrected by spell check, I meant Sevastopol...don't argue What do not know.
Hey aren't here to pacify you, just telling you to measure up because you seems to lack knowledge on what you're saying...

Again, how's Finland, Sweden related with Russia black sea fleet?? cheesy
My job here is to correct ignorant folks like you who like to from oversabi... tongue
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Kingsnairaland(op): 8:49pm On Jan 21, 2023
Otobong3374:
Thousand Of African Trolls Are Jobless, Such As This One Fool. So Many African Trolls Are Seeking For American Visa, And The Worst Part Is They Are Racists. Give Them Chance They Will Fuckly Come Up With Criminality To Distroy Your Country.
move along to the next door I don't have time for insult.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by obedience4(m): 8:52pm On Jan 21, 2023
BentizilL:
Hey aren't here to pacify you, just telling you to measure up because you seems to lack knowledge on what you're saying...

Again, how's Finland, Sweden related with Russia black sea fleet?? cheesy
My job here is to correct ignorant folks like you who like to from oversabi... tongue
I have already replied you, go check my last message.
The USA military has no foothold hold on the black sea,the only NATO country Turkey, the USA doesn't have a Navy base there only an airbase, the incirlik air base, and the turks don't allow the USA Navy ship's sail through it basin of the back sea, and the USA has always wanted a cut Russian influence in the black sea,
What I wrote was that if Finland and Sweden were to become members, the USA can easily sail through the black sea through the Romanian basin in the guise of going to Finland or Sweden,
It was a just a suggestion I was telling the other guy about the benefit of smaller nation to the USA as part of NATO,
Don't you know that any foreign navy vessels sailing the black sea can be see as provocative against the Russia navy whose headquarters is station Sevastopol in the black sea.
Please abeg am done, I can't explain further
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Nobody: 9:39pm On Jan 21, 2023
Tiopii:
All the offensive breakthrough Ukraine managed to achieved were done without Heavy military hardware from her allies and we're done with old Soviet tanks and the likes.

Wait until the new weapons reaches Ukraine, you would understand why Russia has been trying to blackmail the US and her allies from providing those weapons.

It should already be obv that NATO make the superior weapons and offer the better battle training compared to whatever Belarus is offering.


what new weaponry are the Russians expecting? None.. Ukraine is expanding it's offensive capabilities while Russia are getting weapons from Iran and North Korea which might not be up to even Soviet standard.


The Game changers are coming, everyone following the war knows this. Russia sent musicians to the war front to raise the morale of soldiers and even passed jail time for their military complex to try to increase output. Even the caliber of weapons they can produce are limited as components for higher grade weapons can't be accessed cos of sanctions..

Ukraine is planning something, let's watch it unfold
Okay I am waiting. Do you know Russia has not even deployed one tenth of its firepower. This is why US and Europe are scared of depleting their weapons stockpile because they still have china to deal with. Whilst the war is going on Russia continues to bolster it's forces in the arctic, a backdoor that can be used to enter the US. Do you think Russia is in the league of countries US can harass?
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Otobong3374(m): 9:54pm On Jan 21, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
move along to the next door I don't have time for insult.
I Have Spoken What Is Not Favouring You Young Maggot.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Otobong3374(m): 9:57pm On Jan 21, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
They have got to you the matrix has eaten your ability to see clearly lol

Wagner is musicians or bansmen lol.

You can't play music to footballer to play well during match or for warriors during war lol.

They are called musicians because the bombs they use is music and sweet to us the fans.
Nigerian Troll With Useless Sense
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Otobong3374(m): 10:01pm On Jan 21, 2023
[quote author=BentizilL post=120261134]They're both on the battlefield so losses are expected on both side but in Soledar and Bakhmut, the Ukrainian are leading Russia by far(mark this) in losses... The 100 truck of dead bodies which will be sent to Ukraine render your submission invalid..

It seems you just started following the SMO, Russia started with DPR and LPR military, Chenchen, Wagner and few Russia main forces all less than 200k.. Russia sent them there to train together with the Belarus army as union state military and Russia is the one training them in Belarus. They're there for military reason not Russia incapability..

Russia is the one training the union state military in Belarus, get informed.. What quality did the US trained soldiers have when they're being like flies in Ukraine? cheesy Even NATO main soldiers turn mercenaries are not spared and dying like flies everyday..

Nothing is getting deadlier, African Trolls Are Not Walking With Sense, Such As This One.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Otobong3374(m): 10:07pm On Jan 21, 2023
obedience4:
Please dude I wasn't replying you, you can go moan somewhere else.
For emphasis sake check the proximity of the Finnish border with Russia, and Russia uses the black sea as a route to supply its base in the artic.

Siverpool was corrected by spell check, I meant Sevastopol...don't argue What do not know.
Google Boy
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Just30: 10:18pm On Jan 21, 2023
[quote author=Otobong3374 post=120266358][/quote]NATO training is only effective for quick strike and withdraw and this tactics is only effective when fighting riff raff terrorist cells.

In a hot war, it is useless and that is what Ukraine is finding out... They can't even raise their heads out of their trenches as artillery keeps raining down 24/7.... NATO is not prepared for this kind of war.

US tanks were only meant to be driven on tarred roads
Put them on snow and they become drifters .... Put them in Ukrainian mud and they are stuck forever


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sExRJIy2edE
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Otobong3374(m): 10:25pm On Jan 21, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Story

Only a coward will spend $800b annually on armaments, claim to build the best jets and run away and choose to fight by proxy when he sees a near peer rival. This is the time to prove yourself and not on unknown ragtag farmers you are still unable to comprehensively defeat. Ukraine is not a nato ally is no excuse. Were Libya, Iraq and Somalia and Syria nato allies?


After the fighting in Soledar, Wagner PMC fighters will send 20 trucks with the bodies of killed Ukrainian servicemen to Ukraine - Evgeny Prigozhin

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1616746781995417600?t=ZONaFXFzDCMV83mdpK9xdg&s=19[/quote]Thousand Of Nigerians Are Trolls, And I Saw A Magazine In United State How Boko Haram Killed So Many Nigerians. When I Walked Towards My Friend He Told Me That Many Nigerians Are Terrorist And That's Why They Are Keep Killing Theirselves. Racism Generated From African Trolls, And It Is Impossible Give Ways To Africans.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by BentizilL: 10:34pm On Jan 21, 2023
[quote author=Otobong3374 post=120266358][/quote]Counter everything I said, stop hiding under African troll shit... tongue
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Otobong3374(m):
Dvdpity:
You should be ashamed. 30plus countries with USA who claims to be world power couldn't Push Russia away from Ukraine. For months now. Russia fighting against NATO plus world power US still grinding Ukraine like a meat. One country against over 30 countries.
This A Fucking Troll. Senseless Talk That Cant Stop USA From Being Superpower. Bitch, Your Sentences Cannot Stop NATO From Supporting Ukraine. I Saw So Many Magazines In United State How President Obasenjo Quickly Walked Like Useless Troll To Handed Over Nigerian Penisula To Cameroon Without Military Intervension. Do You Think In Your Infected Brain That Ukraine Can Handover Territories To Russia Without Military Intervension?? Bitch, This Is Not Nigeria That Fill Up With Useless Trolls That Could Not Defend Their Fucking Right. Fucking Troll We Will Continue To Supply Thousand Of Weapons To Ukraine. I'm Laughing At Russian Forces That Occupy Those Annexed Territories, Ukraine Will Keep On Grinding Them.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Otobong3374(m): 11:03pm On Jan 21, 2023
BentizilL:
Counter everything I said, stop hiding under African troll shit... tongue
This Is Useless Maggot
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by BentizilL: 11:29pm On Jan 21, 2023
Otobong3374:
This Is Useless Maggot
I refrain from going dirty with you..
It seems you aren't worth it..
My 2023 time is not for foolish people like you... kiss

Bye.. 👋
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Bentonite1: 1:42am On Jan 22, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
turkey is not doing shit even France said it nuke is not for Nato.

Himmars are no longer working that why they want another weapon lol.
Another op. Himars you talk Is an old weapon produced in 70s. and UKr only received short range missiles of it, not the longers so why won't there be change in demands when Russ has shifted most of their arms Faraway from himars reach. mind you comment op
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Bentonite1: 1:47am On Jan 22, 2023
Dvdpity:
You should be ashamed. 30plus countries with USA who claims to be world power couldn't Push Russia away from Ukraine. For months now. Russia fighting against NATO plus world power USA still grinding Ukraine like a meat. One country against over 30 countries. With all the sanctions.. still standing strong and fighting hard. Respect Russia.
will shotop.
What do you know about the war? how is Russia fighting NATO? give one NATOs sophisticated weapon in ukr yet, apart from USSR arms NATO is just throwing down to ukr that were captured during WWII. even ordinary Himars USA produced in 70s is more effective than every Russia new arms but USA refused to give Ukraine long range missiles of it capable of striking further.

if NATO is involved, Russia sea fleet would have been wipped, you know what that means. so shotop. ukr is just a poor nation, full of old USSR arms, NATO is doing them little good by upgrading some of their USSR arms they can easily use and send to them. Putin can't afford to escalate the war, if so why don't you try it and see. Lithuania, Latvia and other small countries shares border with Russia with NATO infastructure at their borders with Russia so why can't Russia hit them if they claim they pose threat to them? Russia is after sometin west doesn't know, they want to claim some of the rich land in ukr, which ukr can't let that happen. So this is no NATO blabla, but Russia's greed for wealth and so on. so shotop if you don't get it
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Kingsnairaland(op): 2:17am On Jan 22, 2023
Otobong3374:
I Have Spoken What Is Not Favouring You Young Maggot.
move along to the next door I don't have time for insult.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Kingsnairaland(op): 2:24am On Jan 22, 2023
Bentonite1:
Another op. Himars you talk Is an old weapon produced in 70s. and UKr only received short range missiles of it, not the longers so why won't there be change in demands when Russ has shifted most of their arms Faraway from himars reach. mind you comment op
The culture of the west peace is a dirty word because there is no money in peace

They lied to you that himmars given to Ukraine is short range type so that you can have hope that it long range can reach any where

That just cnn lies or USA propaganda

The himmars secret has been decoded and that why Wagner is creating havoc in Ukraine

Himmars can only touch places that Russia did not position it air defense systems on.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Kingsnairaland(op): 2:27am On Jan 22, 2023
Bentonite1:
will shotop.
What do you know about the war? how is Russia fighting NATO? give one NATOs sophisticated weapon in ukr yet, apart from USSR arms NATO is just throwing down to ukr that were captured during WWII. even ordinary Himars USA produced in 70s is more effective than every Russia new arms but USA refused to give Ukraine long range missiles of it capable of striking further.

if NATO is involved, Russia sea fleet would have been wipped, you know what that means. so shotop. ukr is just a poor nation, full of old USSR arms, NATO is doing them little good by upgrading some of their USSR arms they can easily use and send to them. Putin can't afford to escalate the war, if so why don't you try it and see. Lithuania, Latvia and other small countries shares border with Russia with NATO infastructure at their borders with Russia so why can't Russia hit them if they claim they pose threat to them? Russia is after sometin west doesn't know, they want to claim some of the rich land in ukr, which ukr can't let that happen. So this is no NATO blabla, but Russia's greed for wealth and so on. so shotop if you don't get it
Do your research well those nation don't have nato infrastructure

Google it and check Finland and Sweden vow that they will not have nato weapons if granted entry lol.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by olugabbie(m): 8:29am On Jan 22, 2023
Tiopii:
Bakmut and Soledar are meat grinders for Ukraine. Russia have focused all their offensive at those places, while both side are losing soldiers, The Russians are losing more cos they are on the offensive and Ukraine have dug defensive trenches all over the places. with the new military aid on the way, Russia are desperate to claim some sort of victory.
Russia is trying yo reduce it casualties and that is the why they are using Wagnerians. Russian main troops are being preserved. You will see them in action after the fall of Bakhmut. Bakhmut is the most fortified city in the donestsk. This is mainly because of it importance. So taking it will involve a lots of casualties. Likewise defending it. The Russians has more artilleries. So it is common sense that the Ukrainians casualties will be higher. Artillery is a killing machine on it own. The Ukrainian reenforcement has not stopped Russian from advancing. So they are both taking casualties but the Ukrainian casualties are higher. Also the Russian main troops are not the ones dying in Bakhmut. It the private military contractors that are dying. They are being preserved for future offensive in Kramatorsk and Slovyansk.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Bentonite1: 9:15am On Jan 22, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Do your research well those nation don't have nato infrastructure

Google it and check Finland and Sweden vow that they will not have nato weapons if granted entry lol.
laughable. now ask yourself, why is Russia attacking Ukraine then if Russian problem was NATO building infastructure at ukr border... what then caused the war? any answer? funny enough, your too blind to understand what NATO is capable of against small Russia , if you think they aren't , why don't Russia dare NATO herself then and find out. NATO is only helping Ukraine defend itself and they have been doing this with USsr weapons ukr is used to. ordinary NATO tanks can't even be driven by ukr, not talk of other sophisticated weapons ukr is asking for. just NATOs 70s short range Himars is causing nightmare to Russia, to d extend not even their overrated s-400 air defence that cost $600-1b could defend against it. think of if USA gave ukr a longer range missiles, which can hit ukr majoir targets, esp in Crimea and Russia lol. Russia warning about nuke, when USA was the only country to use nuke twice and also warned them if such happens. let Russia 4k and find out
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:05am On Jan 22, 2023
Bentonite1:
laughable. now ask yourself, why is Russia attacking Ukraine then if Russian problem was NATO building infastructure at ukr border... what then caused the war? any answer? funny enough, your too blind to understand what NATO is capable of against small Russia , if you think they aren't , why don't Russia dare NATO herself then and find out. NATO is only helping Ukraine defend itself and they have been doing this with USsr weapons ukr is used to. ordinary NATO tanks can't even be driven by ukr, not talk of other sophisticated weapons ukr is asking for. just NATOs 70s short range Himars is causing nightmare to Russia, to d extend not even their overrated s-400 air defence that cost $600-1b could defend against it. think of if USA gave ukr a longer range missiles, which can hit ukr majoir targets, esp in Crimea and Russia lol. Russia warning about nuke, when USA was the only country to use nuke twice and also warned them if such happens. let Russia 4k and find out
It best you read the reason putin stated it before he attacked Ukraine

He said many times that Ukraine began bringing in nato infrastructure

It online and putin said Ukraine needs to be de militarized

Try understand it the same thing I stated that those other countries don't have.

The culture of the west peace is a dirty word because there is no money in peace.

For your information himmars are no longer working lol

That why they want to bring tanks in.
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Otobong3374(m): 12:42pm On Jan 22, 2023
[quote author=BentizilL post=120268657]I refrain from going dirty with you.. It seems you aren't worth it.. My 2023 time is not for foolish people like you... kiss
Bye..
Re: Lavrov Says Russia Will ‘sober Up’ NATO And EU by Tiopii: 6:08am On Jan 31, 2023
olugabbie:
Russia is trying yo reduce it casualties and that is the why they are using Wagnerians. Russian main troops are being preserved. You will see them in action after the fall of Bakhmut. Bakhmut is the most fortified city in the donestsk. This is mainly because of it importance. So taking it will involve a lots of casualties. Likewise defending it. The Russians has more artilleries. So it is common sense that the Ukrainians casualties will be higher. Artillery is a killing machine on it own. The Ukrainian reenforcement has not stopped Russian from advancing. So they are both taking casualties but the Ukrainian casualties are higher. Also the Russian main troops are not the ones dying in Bakhmut. It the private military contractors that are dying. They are being preserved for future offensive in Kramatorsk and Slovyansk.
Told you Bakmut is a meat grinder for Wagner, Now Russia forces are replenishing Wagner cos of the casualties they are taking.
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