These are excerpts from the book "Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4):


Followers of the new message are beyond religion, but they belong to different religions; yet, some have no religion; the path of God, alone, is what they follow.

2. A certain man, Bruno, belonging to the old church, was irked by the new message; but a humble man he was; he did not show arrogance or violence against the messenger.

3. Bruno did not like the freedom which the new message gives; he was used to the old ways of ‘thou shall not’, without knowing what ‘thou shall’.

4. I shared with him the blessings of singing the Holy Word: “Going to Heaven, and returning while you are still alive, becomes an everyday reality; you can meet with Lord Jesus or any of the other Lords; the beauty and glories of Heaven become yours to behold, just like Apostle Paul reported in 2nd Corinthians, Chapter 12, verses 1-4.”



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5. Bruno was taken aback that ordinary-looking people, who occupied the same flesh like him, could claim to experience what the Saints experienced in the days of old.

6. “The testimony of Paul in 2nd Corinthians is not meant for all; God said all our righteousness is like filthy rag; except with the righteousness of Christ, we cannot see God or present our prayer request before him; you walk with God by faith, not experience.”

7. I knew what troubled Bruno; his church leaders had set limitations on the Spirit; and so they lead the congregations in the realm of limitations.

8. “The Holy Spirit is for everyone; when you are ready, you will be taken into the Presence of God.

9. “To those who have faith, there is no limitation; even greater things will they do, as prophesied by Lord Jesus.”

10. Bruno had no arguments, but he was challenged, knowing that the times had changed; the Spirit of God had quickened all dead things, and man would never be the same again.

-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)

11. “This is the Age of the Holy Spirit, my brother Bruno; do not limit yourself; do not reject the offer of the Hand of God, stretched from above, ready and willing to lift you out of the misery of this world.

12. “Long has it been prophesied; now we are living in the times of fulfillment of prophesies; now we can live in the City of God while still in the flesh.”

13. And so it came to pass that a big convention of the true children of God, who are led by the Holy Spirit, was held on the First Heaven.

-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)

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Chieveboy, there is a time when "love" is not love.
There is "love" that is not love.

elated177:
Chieveboy, there is a time when "love" is not love.
There is "love" that is not love.

And you serve a LOVING god right?

Maynman:

And you serve a LOVING god right?

What is your point.

elated177:


What is your point.

there is a time when "love" is not love.
There is "love" that is not love.

Maynman:

And you serve a LOVING god right?

More like co-workership rather than "serve".

I am a fraction of God. It is God doing the 'do'.

This God is indeed LOVE. Not human love (conditional love), but perfect love.

chieveboy:


More like co-workership rather than "serve".

I am a fraction of God. It is God doing the 'do'.

This God is indeed LOVE. Not human love (conditional love), but perfect love.

so no matter what you do, Murder and rape, your god will always love you, or are there conditions attached to it just like human love?

elated177:
Chieveboy, there is a time when "love" is not love.
There is "love" that is not love.

There's is LOVE and there is love. The difference is the former is un-conditional. The later is conditional.

The man of religion tells you you must recite some lines and accept some terms and conditions for you to partake in God's love.

That's not true at all

Maynman:


there is a time when "love" is not love.
There is "love" that is not love.

So?

elated177:


So?

And you serve a LOVING god right?

16. The Light at the gathering was overwhelming, because, here were gathered people of all races, nations, and religions, who served God in all humility and in love.

17. The tall, slim Lord, whose hair and beard were as white as snow, spoke to the gathering: “The world does not need more religions; there are enough to serve the more than seven billion people on Earth.

18. “What the world needs is the Holy Word, which will take you into the First Heaven and higher; and here you can attend the true church, the Living Temple, where the Saints await you, to teach you the Truth, in an untainted manner.

19. “Do you love Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed, Patanjali, and Saint Francis?

20. “Then, come here, and you will meet them and hear the untainted Truth from their mouth; not as men have written, or misinterpreted it; but Truth that comes in form of Light and the Voice of God.

21. “In the holy places in this world, which you call Heaven, Truth is imperishable; It becomes what you can become one with; so that when you wake in the body on Earth, you will not doubt the reality of your own Eternal and Divine nature.

-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)

chieveboy:


There's is LOVE and there is love. The difference is the former is un-conditional. The later is conditional.

The man of religion tells you you must recite some lines and accept some terms and conditions for you to partake in God's love.

That's not true at all

Within the context and premise of your thread, though still being compiled, I suspect, how is love expressed?

Maynman:


so no matter what you do, Murder and rape, your god will always love you, or are there conditions attached?

Yes. Nothing and no one can earn or unearn that. It's unconditional.

You however reap exactly what you did to another. Should you die without having to reap or pay up what you sow, you will be born again as a new born baby.

What you did in the past will now become your so-called destiny. This can be having to be born as a leper for chopping uff people's limbs in the past or being born a dwarf frog abusing physical strength.

Every one and everything is in its rightful place. The purpose is learning and being this LOVE after being dealt with by one's own actions which come home to roost after several lifetimes.

chieveboy:


Yes. Nothing and no one can earn or unearn that. It's unconditional.

You however reap exactly what you did to another. Should you die without having to reap or pay up what you sow, you will be born again as a new born baby.

What you did in the past will now become your so-called destiny. This can be having to be born as a leper for chopping uff people's limbs in the past or being born a dwarf frog abusing physical strength.

Every one and everything is in its rightful place. The purpose is learning and being this LOVE after being dealt with by one's own actions which come home to roost after several lifetimes.

So what’s the use of this love?

chieveboy:


There's is LOVE and there is love. The difference is the former is un-conditional. The later is conditional.

That is not what I meant. Even the love that YHVH Almighty offers has some conditions attached to it . Let no one deceive you in that regard.

John 14: 15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

Can you see the condition explicitly stated out in verse 16? The only that a seeker or saint of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, will ever receive his Set-apart Spirit is by obedience to his Commandments.

How does one show that he or she truly loves Yahushua the Messiah? No be by mouth o. It is by obeying his Commandments.

elated177:



Within the context and premise of your thread, though still being compiled, I suspect, how is love expressed?

It flows from the heart dear. It's in the heart.

The basic is loving a human, animal, place or thing. A girl or a boy, etc .

The actual 'owner' of the universe doesn't care who or what you love, just love, neither does it care how Love expresses itself. Block it here and it will pop up there.

LOVE is actually not the "I love you" persay that we feel, that's just one way it expresses itself. Our beloved electricity is a huge step down of LOVE literally speaking. LOVE is actually real power and has a voltage in this lower world.

Everything is an expression of Love including crying and laughter. All things 'stubbornly' revolves around LOVE.

Out wars, friendships, jobs and all endeavors are all expressions of LOVE brought about by devolving of this compact energy into lesser derivatives. It's Physics.

Chieveboy, here is another.

John 15: 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

Can you see the condition unambiguously pointed out there?

The only way that one can remain in Yahushua's love is by keeping the Father's Commandments.

elated177:


That is not what I meant. Even the love that YHVH Almighty offers has some conditions attached to it . Let no one deceive you in that regard.

You will one day know who YHVH is. There are more on the ladder along which YHVH is part of.

John 14: 15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

Can you see the condition explicitly stated out in verse 16? The only that a seeker or saint of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, will ever receive his Set-apart Spirit is by obedience to his Commandments.

How does one show that he or she truly loves Yahushua the Messiah? No be by mouth o. It is by obeying his Commandments.

At least from the human perspective, you can see that this does not sound like like someone with a perfect Love.

If you study the Bible carefully and do a little crossing of the 'T(s)' and dotting your 'I(s)' without being afraid you will vex some deity in the skies, you will see that those who from the heaven (skies) came and who made men in their image are in indeed "God(s)" by appearance and capabilities, but at the same time suffer the imperfections mere mortals suffer

They trip for human girls, they are jealous, partial as to having favorites and such.

Their "chariots of fire" were indeed nice vehicles though....

chieveboy:


It flows from the heart dear. It's in the heart.

The basic is loving a human, animal, place or thing. A girl or a boy, etc .

The actual 'owner' of the universe doesn't care who or what you love, just love, neither does it care how Love expresses itself. Block it here and it will pop up there.

LOVE is actually not the "I love you" persay that we feel, that's just one way it expresses itself. Our beloved electricity is a huge step down of LOVE literally speaking. LOVE is actually real power and has a voltage in this lower world.

Everything is an expression of Love including crying and laughter. All things 'stubbornly' revolves around LOVE.

Out wars, friendships, jobs and all endeavors are all expressions of LOVE brought about by devolving of this compact energy into lesser derivatives. It's Physics.

This brings me to my first comment here: "there is "love" that is not love. There is "love" that is an abomination in the sight of the Creator. Actually, the Creator is interested in how love is expressed. This is to ascertain whether it is in line with love or "love"

Just in case you haven't really grasped it by now; "love", as I have consistently used so far, represents what the people of the world call love and have come to term love.

On the other hand, the love - love that is love, love that is of YHVH Almighty - of the Creator of love, has a perimeter.

elated177:
Chieveboy, here is another.

John 15: 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

Can you see the condition unambiguously pointed out there?

The only way that one can remain in Yahushua's love is by keeping the Father's Commandments.

We're talking of the Supreme Deity though who is all-powerful for them to have it's creation trying to overthrow it.

IT does not have enemies, favorites , likes and dislikes and conditions for it's Love. IT does not seek recognition or worship. These are base desires that trap the beat of men and angels into the abyss of the lower worlds.

The issue here is as a Christian, you of course would know nothing other than what you've read.

chieveboy:


You will one day know who YHVH is. There are more on the ladder along which YHVH is part of.

Don't kid yourself, chieveboy. I know the God whose servant I am and whom I worship.

chieveboy:

At least from the human perspective, you can see that this does not sound like like someone with a perfect Love.

Deut 6: 4 Hear, O Israel: YHVH our God, YHVH is one. 5 Love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength

Deut 6: 18 Do what is right and good in YHVH’s sight, so that it may go well with you and you may go in and take over the good land YHVH promised on oath to your ancestors, 19 thrusting out all your enemies before you, as YHVH said.

chieveboy:

If you study the Bible carefully and do a little crossing of the 'T(s)' and dotting your 'I(s)' without being afraid you will vex some deity in the skies, you will see that those who from the heaven (skies) came and who made men in their image are in indeed "God(s)" by appearance and capabilities, but at the same time suffer the imperfections mere mortals suffer

They trip for human girls, they are jealous, partial as to having favorites and such.

Their "chariots of fire" were indeed nice vehicles though....

Fallacious fantasy.

elated177:



Don't kid yourself, chieveboy. I know the God whose servant I am and whom I worship.

Like I said earlier, this is all you know for now. I am not disputing what you believe.



Deut 6: 4 Hear, O Israel: YHVH our God, YHVH is one. 5 Love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength

Deut 6: 18 Do what is right and good in YHVH’s sight, so that it may go well with you and you may go in and take over the good land YHVH promised on oath to your ancestors, 19 thrusting out all your enemies before you, as YHVH said.



Fallacious fantasy. [/quote]

Ah, books and scriptures

What's if we open the Holy book of Buddhists today and see something contradictory to this? Or we check out that of Islam and or any of the other religions? Books...


So we have to only read about the deity right? Read?


This thread though is about experiencing God first hand. So be humble and watch. Maybe you will learn beyond books about...

chieveboy:


We're talking of the Supreme Deity though who is all-powerful for them to have it's creation trying to overthrow it.

Hilarious! You always resort to this whenever you're stuck. I understand.

chieveboy:


IT does not have enemies, favorites , likes and dislikes and conditions for it's Love.

Outrageous!

chieveboy:


IT does not seek recognition or worship.

Only the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them deserves the worship of his creatures.

chieveboy:


These are base desires that trap the beat of men and angels into the abyss of the lower worlds.

This is what happens when someone deliberately wants to deceive.
Failed attempt at trying to sound sophisticated. The only things that are base desires are sinful things - things that pull humans down from the positions of light.

Chieveboy, seek knowledge.

Maynman:


So what’s the use of this love?

This love is what makes existence possible. Without it, we Souls cannot exist.

This love also is the fabric which everything comes from. It is the building block of Matter beyond the quantum state which out scientists know currently.

chieveboy:


This love is what makes existence possible. Without it, we Souls cannot exist.

This love also is the fabric which everything comes from. It is the building block of Matter beyond the quantum state which out scientists know currently.

Can you prove all these assertions.

22. “The world does not need religion; the world needs Love; Love that will open your heart for the Holy Spirit to step in and become a permanent resident.


23. “The world does not need dogmas and moral codes; the world needs God coming alive in the mind, heart, body and Soul of all men.

24. “The world is tired of the idle and empty words of the clergy, the philosophers and the politicians.

25. “The world needs the Holy Word, which is the key, to open the door to Heaven, just like our brother John did, and he met with me in the Heavenly World, so that he could write for you the Book of Revelation.


26. “He wrote Revelation, which was his experience in the Heavens that took a few minutes; and the world has spent two thousand years debating and quarrelling over the content.

27. “Rather, each one should reach out to me and the other Saints, and we shall take you to the Second Heaven, where you can see the future for yourself.

28. “The world has gone beyond spiritual speculation; the world needs each and everyone having these holy experiences by themselves; only then will they mean anything beyond speculative logic.

-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)

chieveboy:


Like I said earlier, this is all you know for now. I am not disputing what you believe.

This is not about me. Don't try to make it so. Besides, you have no idea of what I know.

chieveboy:

Ah, books and scriptures

What's if we open the Holy book of Buddhists today and see something contradictory to this? Or we check out that of Islam and or any of the other religions? Books...

Everyone has his/her reason for holding tenaciously to his or her beliefs and religion. It is an individual walk, chieveboy.

chieveboy:

So we have to only read about the deity right? Read?

Coming from someone who is posting and promoting the narratives of another person, should I be offended or what?

chieveboy:

This thread though is about experiencing God first hand. So be humble and watch. Maybe you will learn beyond books about...

Hilarious!

Maynman:


Can you prove all these assertions.

This thread if you focus on its basics is for you to be aware that you can personally verify these things rather than engage in arguments on whether you're being deceived or not.

Any one regardless of belief in God or Lack of it has access to visit the so-called heavens to see things for themselves and be first-knowers.

You can know the deeper laws of physics in the inner planes, after all no founder of industry and genius on earth today had not been there consciously or unconsciously.

Just be patient and hear the "Tales by moonlight" I am posting please. May be something might tick for you.

chieveboy:


This thread if you focus on its basics is for you to be aware that you can personally verify these things rather than engage in arguments on whether you're being deceived or not.

Any one regardless of belief in God or Lack of it has access to visit the so-called heavens to see things for themselves and be first-knowers.

You can know the deeper laws of physics in the inner planes, after all no founder of industry and genius on earth today had not been there consciously or unconsciously.

Just be patient and hear the "Tales by moonlight" I am posting please. May be something might tick for you.

Yawn, can you prove all these assertions, or you want to keep rambling?

Physics was originally called natural philosophy, so tell me the deeper laws of it and the equation of how you arrived to it.
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