lexy2014:


Offpoint. Kindly answer my questions one after the other

1. Which veto power does the president have and how is it related to presidential address?

2 How does everything you said now automatically mean that a presidential address supercedes a court order?

3. If you say that an order given by the president isn't law, how then does it supercede a court order?

Abemy:


You failed to tell us who can deem it grossly unconstitutional and who can also revoke it.

You are aloting too much powers to the president.

Abemy:


But executive orders can be challenged in court.

NwokoloOwa:


Who deems it unconstitutional? Or let me rephrase, who determines the unconstitutionality of an executive order?

lexy2014:


Why should the supreme court not have entertained the case and how is it's entertaining the case "an exercise in futility and a mockery of the judiciary"?

Ofodirinwa:



Supreme court can revoke a presidential order by ruling it unconstitutional.

JASONjnr:


The president appoints the judges at the supreme court....


The president has the final order of executive order.... Every authorities bows to the executive order...

Deoo1125:
Una no get sense at all,u are a brainless fool. The CBN is only independent to make monetary decision and not independent of the constitution that created it in the first place..

Upworkwriter007:
What's this? Soo if the supreme court orders the president to vacate office, the president can easily issue an executive order? Which clowns are these? Ha! Supreme court can even remove buhari. The fact that buhari is publicly issued a decree automatically makes him guilty of contempt of court. Omo, the kind of things people say on Nairaland shocks me.

Ofunaofu:



The supreme court brought itself to ridicule by even entertaining the matter in the first place


The CBN as an independent body is in charge of monetary policies, in trying to be clever by half Elrufai and his geng took the FG to the supreme court and excluded the CBN

I know you will come with the answer that the CBN is an agency of the federal government but don't forget that the CBN is an independent body. So what stops Elrufai and his geng from taking CBN to court

Turboking:
haaa olodo and what is the job of NJC

EdoBoy90:
Oga Mr. President will issue an order and you will be arrested, Heaven will not fall. Supreme Court will not do anything. Mr. President has executive immunity. The Judges at Supreme Court don't have immunity. You want DSS to open their files right? You want Mr. Malami Abubakar to sack them right? You want Mr. President to sack them right?

You just wrote thrash here.

AfricanColumbus:



Don't be funny, mister. The supreme court cannot order the president out of office.

DeLaRue:


All the powers of the President derive from and are provided for by the constitution.

That means all the actions of the President must comply with the constitution and the laws passed by the National Assembly.

So, the current issue is a constitutional issue, which only the Supreme Court can decide. It has to decide whether the President acted within the powers conferred on him by the constitution and laws.

The reason a country has a supreme court (and indeed other courts) is to ensure that the Executive ie., the President, Governors, Ministers etc do not misuse their powers against us, the people.

There is a reason Mr Buhari cannot issue an Executive Order for you to be arrested. That's because the constitution does not give him the power to misuse his orders like that.

Without courts like the Supreme Court, most Presidents would become dictators.

The people must guard the supreme court's authority jealously and not allow any President destroy it for their own personal interest.

AfricanColumbus:


Executive orders pass through legislature for checking before announcement so the orders are not unconstitutional.

AfricanColumbus:
Nothing supercedes a presidential executive order. It can only be revoked by the president himself if it is deemed to be grossly unconstitutional.

Presidential executive orders are final.


For the number 3 question, the executive and judiciary are equal, but the head of the executive (president) supercedes all in the land.

linearity:


I can see what you are seeing, and you are not off the mark.

However, you should understand that, since we are using Nigeria as a special case here, the Presidency aka Executive Branch is not the only at fault here.

All three Branches of Government are corrupt, the Courts are no longer the ‘last hope’ of the common man. It appear ‘justice’ goes to the highest bidder today and this have led to the general distrust of the System of Justice in Nigeria.

If there is distrust for the Judiciary, such distrusts are extended to their rulings and orders as well.

What gives weight, deference and reference to a Court Order is not merely because the Order came from the Court, it is because the citizens agreed to give force to that Order, the citizens gives power to Court Order, they enforce it and ensure it is carried out. But, if those same citizens distrust the Courts as Court of Justice, their Orders are worthless and meaningless.

I have never seen a Judge walking on the streets to enforce their Orders, they rely on the same society and citizens who now distrust them to do that.

It is possible that, the Executive Branch is having the same distrust towards these Court Orders just like the society and citizens, hence the lack of zeal to abide by them. Yes, this is absolutely wrong and should not be the case, but in a lawless society anything goes.

Same goes to the Legislative Branch & Politicians in Nigeria, they are all self centered thieves seeking the next novel way to siphon the Government and steal from the people.

Upworkwriter007:
Lol. what's this . The supreme court can order the president, not vice versa. oh God! Nairaland I don laugh tire over these funny opinions. Why didn't the president order APC to remain the winner of Bayelsa's election? chei, I don hear tinz

BluntCrazeMan:





This submission here is definitely not true.



And as you can see..
This topic is not supposed to be infested with biased responses, neither do we need any form of misinformation here.

Corruptionally

Ofunaofu:



The supreme court brought itself to ridicule by even entertaining the matter in the first place


The CBN as an independent body is in charge of monetary policies, in trying to be clever by half Elrufai and his geng took the FG to the supreme court and excluded the CBN

Are you not aware that it's only d supreme Court that has the jurisdiction to handle any dispute between the FGN and states?
And again, this case is between the states involved and the FGN, not CBN.
I know you will come with the answer that the CBN is an agency of the federal government but don't forget that the CBN is an independent body. So what stops Elrufai and his geng from taking CBN to court

lexy2014:


Why can't you answer the simple questions? Don't you have access to.the same constitution?

In which of your elementary school were you taught that "the executive arms of government leads other arms of government"? Can you show me where it is stated in the constitution?

Which law in Nigeria states that "The president holds the last order in the country and not the other arms of government"?

Where did you get this from:

"What the executive order does is that, it gives the president in recent times, the ability to churn out Executive Orders in the form of 'laws seeking to regulate the activities of the other arms of government."

Who told you that the president can regulate the other arms of govt? Where is it in the constitution?

You claim that "By appointment the heads of other arms of government, it means the president is paramount to other authorities".

Is that what the constitution says? Which arms of govt does the president appoints heads?

When the chief justice of the federation swears in the president, what does that mean?

How does the president appointing judges into the supreme court automatically mean that the president isn't subject to an order given by the court? Can you show me where it is in the constitution?

AfricanColumbus:




If he gives directives during the address, all directives therein are executive orders, carried out with immediate effect.

Ofunaofu:



The supreme court brought itself to ridicule by even entertaining the matter in the first place


The CBN as an independent body is in charge of monetary policies, in trying to be clever by half Elrufai and his geng took the FG to the supreme court and excluded the CBN

I know you will come with the answer that the CBN is an agency of the federal government but don't forget that the CBN is an independent body. So what stops Elrufai and his geng from taking CBN to court

BluntCrazeMan:




Can a “Presidential Address” be taken as an “Executive Order”??



** (I used to believe that Executive Orders must be “Documented“, and also, they must be “Signed” by the President..)