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Kajibona:
■ I know you said Jesus is the new LAW. But i asked you again to affirm. So that there will be no ambiguity in defending your thought. Thanks.

1. Jesus Christ told you in His own Words that He is the Way(the Law) , the Truth and the Eternal Life - John 14 vs 6.. The Old Way granted the people of Israel long life in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. The New Way promised the people of Israel eternal Salvation in the Kingdom of Priests which God Himself promised to make of the people of Israel - Exodus 19 vs 6.

I don't need to defend my thoughts as all is written right there in the Gospel for all those who are willing to honestly process what is written as it is written.

I await your response. For you have to defend that Bible that was penned down by righteous men of God; as you claimed. And' MEN who were under God divine guidance.' And believe me, you will be astonished and overwhelmed! That, i promise you.

And if you choose not to respond, i will understand. Thanks.

Kajibona:
■ I await your response. For you have to defend that Bible that was penned down by righteous men of God; as you claimed.
■ And' MEN who were under God divine guidance.' And believe me, you will be astonished and overwhelmed! That, i promise you.

1. You are still not getting it, are you? Scripture didn't need to be penned down by righteous men of God as you pretend your Quran was. Scripture didn't need to be translated by righteous men of God as you claim your Quran was. Instead Scripture consists of books written by humans, in human language, for human consumption and processing by human minds, so it is expected that you are bound to find that which appears contradictory in it.

Humans are generally unholy; human language too is unholy. The books in scripture were written for the generally unholy of men to easily access what is written in language they can understand in their quest to find and understand the truth of God. Written in many of those book are the lies and opinions of men, the words of Satan and his demons, in addition to the Truth of God. And God set it all up that way. So, I don't understand your obsession with arguing against what is clearly obvious which is that God of Israel never needed His Words to be penned down by only men who claim to be holy and righteous.

2. The God of Israel's plan was not to have those you call men under God’s Guidance to write about Him. So, what instead astonishes is that you have that expectation of Him when from the beginning, it has clearly been the opposite.

I woud just like you to clear the Bible of these errors ambiguity and Fallacies that do not qualified it to be a book from God. Yes 2 Themothy says ' All scriptures are inspired by God. But, with what we have seen in the bible., it surely cannot be from God but Men. It is a pity you cannot see through the spurious shenanigans of the writers of the bible. And that is why i keep throwing Christians Challenges : including you. So, answer the questions. I know it is big. Thanka

Kajibona:
■ I woud just like you to clear the Bible of these errors ambiguity and Fallacies that do not qualified it to be a book from God.
■ Yes 2 Themothy says ' All scriptures are inspired by God. But, with what we have seen in the bible., it surely cannot be from God but Men.
■ It is a pity you cannot see through the spurious shenanigans of the writers of the bible. And that is why i keep throwing Christians Challenges : including you. So, answer the questions. I know it is big. Thanka

1. You can't "clear" scripture of errors particularly if those errors are intended, and to be expected. For one, contained in His Law, God indicated by way of a law that it is only by the account of 2 or 3 witnesses that a truth is to be established when dealing with the accounts of men. These law -- and others like it -- wouldn't have been of need if all of scripture had been transmitted only through Holy men to other holy men. Also, God never called Scripture "a book from God" -- nowhere in scripture is that written.

2. You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word inspired, do you?

3. Spurious shenanigans of writers of the same books of scripture which you had earlier attempted to claim provide support for your Mohammed? I see that I am talking to one who rarely processes information using his own brain and mind.

Wow! You have really called the attention of the Christendom to heresy of the highest order. Yes, CATCH YAA. I believe many Christians will see this tread And i am sure the orthodox, Pentecostals and the rest of them ; even CAN will SKIN YOU ALIVE! What! You attested that the HOLY BIBLE, EVERYDAY BIBLE, GOOD NEWS BIBLE, ESV, RSV, NET, NEV KJV NKJV etc are full of Contradictions! They contain the words of God and the words of the devil at the same time? THEN ASK YOURSELVE THIS QUESTION; WHAT IS HOLLY IN THE BIBLE THAT YOU FOLLOW? AS A DISCLAIMER, THE QURAN DOES NOT CONTAIN THE WORD OF MEN OR SATAN AS PER YOUR ASSERTIONS.

Kajibona:
■ Wow! You have really called the attention of the Christendom to heresy of the highest order. Yes, CATCH YAA. I believe many Christians will see this tread And i am sure the orthodox, Pentecostals and the rest of them ; even CAN will SKIN YOU ALIVE! What!
■ You attested that the HOLY BIBLE, EVERYDAY BIBLE, GOOD NEWS BIBLE, ESV, RSV, NET, NEV KJV NKJV etc are full of Cotradictions! They contain the words of God and the words of the devil at the same time? THEN ASK YOURSELVE THIS QUESTION; WHAT IS HOLLY IN THE BIBLE THAT YOU FOLLOW?
■ AS A DISCLAIMER, THE QURAN DID NOT CONTAIN THE WORD OF MEN OR SATAN AS PER YOUR ASSERTIONS.

1. What I have done from the start of this thread is make clear that every religion of men out there, including Christianity, exist as political tools by which men wield power and control over the minds and lives of their fellow men with.

2. Again, try to wrap your mind around what it means for Scripture to consist of books written by humans, in human language, for human consumption and processing by human minds. The only one here under the delusion that a book can be holy simply by the word Holy being inscribed on the cover page is you.

3. You are free to believe anything you want of your Quran. As I already made clear from earlier, the God kf Israel shares nothing in common with your Allah so it would be silly for you to expect even Scripture to mirror your Quran in any way or form.

HOW ARE YOU THEN SURE THAT THE WORDS OF JESUS WERE NOT BLASPHEMY. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN THE CHRISTENDOM. WHICH PARTS OF THE BIBLE OR SCRIPTURE BELONGS TO THE DEVIL AND WHICH BELONGS TO GOD? HAVE YOU READ THE BOOK OF LEVITICUS? THE PUNISHMENT FOR BLASPHEMY OF GOD, THAT WHICH IS HOLY AND THE CONGREGATION?

Lukuluku69:
Paitor, we are not all Christians. What kinda of talk is that?

Why not answer the Op with your own views as regards what he raised, must you bring Islam into everything?

is it only Islam you saw there?

Kajibona:
■ HOW ARE YOU THEN SURE THAT THE WORDS OF JESUS WERE NOT BLASPHEMY. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN THE CHRISTENDOM.
■ WHICH PARTS OF THE BIBLE OR SCRIPTURE BELONGS TO THE DEVIL AND WHICH BELONGS TO GOD?
■ HAVE YOU READ THE BOOK OF LEVITICUS? THE PUNISHMENT FOR BLASPHEMY OF GOD, THAT WHICH IS HOLY AND THE CONGREGATION?

1. Christiandom does not require enlightenment.

2. There are no parts that belong to God and parts that belong to the devil. Again, you fail to understand who the God of Israel is and how much different from your Allah He is. As Timothy attempted to explain in that passage you quoted earlier without understanding, all that is written, the lies of Satan included, are all inspired by God..

3. The book of Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20, also made it clear to all reading that the Law of Moses, including the Blasphemy law indicated in it, only applies as far as those who are of the blood of Israel and living in the land of Canaan. Surely, you can understand how it is silly of you to quote that Law at me or even think it applies as far as this conversation. Note: that a thing is inspired by God does not then mean it is God's Truth. Look up the meaning of the word inspired if you are not certain.

2 THEMOTHY : ALL SCRIPTURES ARE INSPIRED BY GOD!

Kajibona:
2 THEMOTHY : ALL SCRIPTURES ARE INSPIRED BY GOD!

You didn't complete it so let me help you!

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work" 2Timothy 3:16-17

Note that Paul didn't just stopped at claiming all the books in the Bible are inspired of God but further said it will make a "man of God to be fully competent and completely equipped for every good work"

So if Islam is from God why do Muslims kill Muslims during racial and political differences?
What is the usefulness of your Qu'ran, Allah, Muhammad and religion if you people fail to settle your differences without killing one another?

Well that's what Paul meant:
Book inspired of God should be useful to settle differences between believers so that they can all have LOVE, JOY and PEACE permeating their gathering {Isaiah 2:2-4} they will worship as if they're speaking one language! Zephaniah 3:9

2 THEMOTHY: ALL SCRIPTURES ARE INSPIRED NY GOD... THE LIES OF SATAN INCLUDED.
HERE IS ANOTHER ONE. IN THE BOOK OF ACT: ' MEN SHALL RISE UP AMONG YOU DISTORTING THE BOOK WITH THIER OWN TONGUES IN ORDER TO CARRY DESCIPLES AFTER THEMSELVES.' WE NEED TO HEAR THE OPINION OF OTHER CHRISTIANS ON THIS PLATFORM. SERIOUSLY.

I will school you in Islamic matters. Do not throw stones because you have glass house. I will take you on a long journey and you may be overwhelmed. I respond. Trust God.

Solocoin:
When you don't know something it becomes a problem because you're finding fault to prove a point. Let me school you, the bible say believers were first call Christian in Antioch that is in Act 11:26. The didn't call theirselves the name but it was those who didn't believe in Christ in call them the name to fulfill the prophecy of Isaiah when God say he will give them a new name.Isaiah 62:2
And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.

You still confirmed what I said earlier! The people who named Christianity are unknown non-christians! It started long after Jesus! No where was Christianity ever linked to Jesus but Paul and other people Jesus didn't physically appoint!

Now Christian means followers of Christ or those practicing the teaching of Christ. Christ is the epitome of Christianity. Just like Followers of Mohammed is call Muslim.
The bible in Galatians 4:4-5 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
I believe this will answer your questions.

Yeah, Christian means the followers of Christ as defined by the disbelievers of Antioch! But your definition of a Muslim is wrong! The meaning is more accommodating and includes all Prophets and their followers in truth!

I don't know why you guys quote Galatians of Paul that he allegedly wrote to some people when he never even met Jesus alive!

Kajibona:
2 THEMOTHY: ALL SCRIPTURES ARE INSPIRED NY GOD... THE LIES OF SATAN INCLUDED.
HERE IS ANOTHER ONE. IN THE BOOK OF ACT: ' MEN SHALL RISE UP AMONG YOU DISTORTING THE BOOK WITH THIER OWN TONGUES IN ORDER TO CARRY DESCIPLES AFTER THEMSELVES.' WE NEED TO HEAR THE OPINION OF OTHER CHRISTIANS ON THIS PLATFORM. SERIOUSLY.

That's exactly what Muhammad did!

He claimed he was the prophet Jesus promised to come after Jesus {John 15:28} but he began gathering soldiers to fight for him unlike Jesus who wasn't ready to loose a single disciple Muhammad used his followers as body guards until he was finally captured and killed at the age of 62 even all his sons died fighting to protect him so only Fatima (female child) survived your so called prophet who claimed he was the prophet to come after Jesus.

So if you're talking about men drawing people after themselves all in the name of the God that sent Jesus Muhammad is one of them!

Kajibona:
I will school you in Islamic matters. Do not throw stones because you have glass house. I will take you on a long journey and you may be overwhelmed. I respond. Trust God.

Ọmọ i was a Muslim for decades before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses so i know everything you were taught to say about your religion!

My Guy,seriousely We Are All Seeking For The Truth And Allah Bears My Witness I Came In Peace. It Is Just That The Truth Is Fierce Bitter Thing. I Really Respect You And Your Intelligence. When I Said You Maybe Overwhelmed, I Assumed You Do Not Have Much Experiece In Matters Of Islam But Now I Know You Have. Also, Let Me Disabuse Your Mind, I Was Not Taught Anything To Attack Christians With. I Do My Own Researches Just Like You Did.

You Quoted Zaphania 3 V 9. That Really Caught My Attention. You Know, I Warned You Not To Throw Stones Because It May Boomrang. My Dear, That Is Another Topic Entirely. Zephania Was Substantiating And Corroborating Muslims And Islam Not To Christians At All. But, I Do Not Want To Digress. Brethren, Please I Want You To Do Me A Favour. Please, For The Sake Of Understanding, Who Is God? Jehovah Or God? Who Should We Worship? You Circumvented That Question Earlier. This Will Make Us Understand The Nature Of Salvation Itself.

MightySparrow:
Lẹt person hear word.

Confused Muslim saying that Jesus was a Muslim
Moses and the priests did ablution.
Jesus wrote on the ground Quranic verses
Solomon bowed down to do Muslim prayer.

Jesus is the promised holy spirit.

Muslims Can lie !!

If i lie prove me wrong! Bring out the lie!

Ablution does not make you a Muslim!
Ignorance is a disease!

AntiChristian:
If i lie prove me wrong! Bring out the lie!

Ablution does not make you a Muslim!
Ignorance is a disease!

Good, what made all these people Muslims?

Please clear my doubts

MightySparrow:
Good, what made all these people Muslims?

Please clear my doubts

Because they fit into whom Allah calls a Muslim!

paxonel:
is it only Islam you saw there?

My concern is Islam. Let the Buddhists and others take you up why you are obsessed with them too.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i was a Muslim for decades before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses so i know everything you were taught to say about your religion!

Yinmu.

AntiChristian:
You still confirmed what I said earlier! The people who named Christianity are unknown non-christians! It started long after Jesus! No where was Christianity ever linked to Jesus but Paul and other people Jesus didn't physically appoint!


Yeah, Christian means the followers of Christ as defined by the disbelievers of Antioch! But your definition of a Muslim is wrong! The meaning is more accommodating and includes all Prophets and their followers in truth!

I don't know why you guys quote Galatians of Paul that he allegedly wrote to some people when he never even met Jesus alive!

It started long after Christ, how long did it start? When you don't know something ask questions, not with the mind of finding fault but with and open and sincere mind that is the only way you can know something.
I don't know how Christian name unaccommodate the prophet named and Muslim accommodate.

Solocoin:
It started long after Christ, how long did it start? When you don't know something ask questions, not with the mind of finding fault but with and open and sincere mind that is the only way you can know something.
I don't know how Christian name unaccommodate the prophet named and Muslim accommodate.

Did Christ start Christianity? If Yes, show us verses?

And who told you i don't know?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i was a Muslim for decades before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses so i know everything you were taught to say about your religion!

No be only Muslim!

AntiChristian:
Did Christ start Christianity? If Yes, show us verses?

And who told you i don't know?

Okay let start from here? Before Christ died, he have disciples right? He teach them and also give them instructions?
Now I want you to read Act 1 and Act 2 both places read from one to the end. You're not still getting my explanation. If you're a citizen of Nigeria you will be know as a Nigerian. If you're a follower of Christ you're a Christian. Now answer me was Mohammed a Muslim? Did he start the Muslim? Did he worship as a Muslim?

AntiChristian:
Because they fit into whom Allah calls a Muslim!

What are the qualifications?

Kajibona:
My Guy,seriousely We Are All Seeking For The Truth And Allah Bears My Witness I Came In Peace. It Is Just That The Truth Is Fierce Bitter Thing. I Really Respect You And Your Intelligence. When I Said You Maybe Overwhelmed, I Assumed You Do Not Have Much Experiece In Matters Of Islam But Now I Know You Have. Also, Let Me Disabuse Your Mind, I Was Not Taught Anything To Attack Christians With. I Do My Own Researches Just Like You Did.

Kajibona:
You Quoted Zaphania 3 V 9. That Really Caught My Attention. You Know, I Warned You Not To Throw Stones Because It May Boomrang. My Dear, That Is Another Topic Entirely. Zephania Was Substantiating And Corroborating Muslims And Islam Not To Christians At All. But, I Do Not Want To Digress. Brethren, Please I Want You To Do Me A Favour. Please, For The Sake Of Understanding, Who Is God? Jehovah Or God? Who Should We Worship? You Circumvented That Question Earlier. This Will Make Us Understand The Nature Of Salvation Itself.

Who is GOD?
To define that we need to think of what we need God for otherwise anybody can call anything God just because it's found written in a book thought to be inspired.
So what are the qualities of God that we all cherish when we hear that word?

That supposed to be the starting point not what's written in some books!