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Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by Hopium: 9:39am On Feb 26, 2023
seborrhic:
Soludo is looking like an option further down the line.
But by 2031,if Tinubu wins and completes 2 terms,the North would say it's their turn and a Tinubu would be obliged to put his structures behind a consensus northern candidate.
An Ibo presidency,by that scenario,can only be feasible by 2039!
My only grouse and fear about a Tinubu presidency,as it's likely now,is that he is surrounded and supported by same crooks ,in different spheres,that a system should do without.His mental capacity due to age is also another fear,lest we go back to the same situation now,where a small clique of family members and cronies,rule in his name.
Otherwise, ordinarily I see Tinubu being a better president than Buhari
Yes. You're right. No matter the magic Soludo will do, it's not for 2031. he will need to be patient like Asiwaju who built for 20 years. Soludo may not be the one to reap the fruit sha. Kalu told them dem no gree, he said Nigeria is not ready for a igbo presidency. there a lot of work to be done. the nonsense obi did this election where they voted 90-100% for LP in their pu's leaving other parties with nothing is another dent to the SE in national piolitics. how can other regions trust people like that? how do you rig that much or be tribalistic to such extent for a party that will fade away after election? na wa for those people.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by baralatie(m): 9:40am On Feb 26, 2023
ayomilore:
Those that rode on his back to victory are supposed to be his structure if and only if they will not defect to other parties.
Those rode me?
Those one go soon port when Dem reach abuja
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by Softmirror: 9:44am On Feb 26, 2023
Pharmmaqp:
So if dem dey count people with common sense ..
You go follow come out grin
ANYBODY WHO HAS GOT COMMON SENSE KNOWS THAT APART FROM WRECKING PDP'S CHANCES SO FAR, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MORE THE LABOUR PARTY HAS ACHIEVED. THIS IS THE HONEST TRUTH. APC REMAINS THE ONLY PARTY DOING WELL ALL ROUND AND IN THE END WILL BECOME THE OVERALL WINNER

DATTI'S POLLING UNIT FOR EXAMPLE, SHOULD HAVE BEEN WON BY PLUS LABOUR PARTY'S 65
IN FAVOUR OF PDP. INSTEAD OF A 4 VOTE DIFFERENCE AGAINST APC. LABOUR PARTY HELPS IN NARROWING THE MARGIN BETWEEN APC AND PDP WHEN PDP IS ABLE TO TOP.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by seborrhic(op): 9:44am On Feb 26, 2023
ayomilore:
Those that rode on his back to victory are supposed to be his structure if and only if they will not defect to other parties.
Exactly one of the points I stressed.
Next thing you would hear is that a senator or HOR member that won under the LP has defected to either the ruling national party or the state governor's party!
There should be a law against that or at least stringent conditions attached to defecting to a party under which platform you didn't contest.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by obailala(m): 9:46am On Feb 26, 2023
JagabanBorgu:
But LP never had party agents in thousands upon thousands of polling units, LP don't have càndidàtes to feature in most states of Nigeria, that's the structure, those càndidàtes are what will influence votes in his favor outside the influence of social media.
If not for the activities of thugs and compromised INEC and security officials, why exactly should a party not having agents in all polling stations be a problem? ...

Just imagine the nonsense happening in Rivers state where OBI is extremely popular and where APC is despised. Even the LP party agents were chased away from collation centres by policemen attached to the governor and compromised INEC officials were made not to upload results and in some instances, results werent even counted infront of voters.

In a sane and civilised society, a candidate without 'structure' can win elections as long as they are popular. But in a barbaric society like ours, such a candidate irrespective of how popular he is, still needs to plant agents everywhere to prevent his votes from being tampered with. What a shame!

Whether we like it or not, the structure we talk of, the structure which APC and PDP arrogantly brag about is a structure of criminality.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by christistruth01: 9:48am On Feb 26, 2023
Peter Obi doesn't have the Patience to build any party

He will most likely defect again after Elections
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by JagabanBorgu: 9:51am On Feb 26, 2023
Ok, the electoral acts are wrong now because ur càndidàte couldn't provide agents for 2/3 of polling units acróss the country, u didn't talk about the càndidàtes they don't have to feature, I guess In a sane country, having càndidàtes on the ballot is poor too.
obailala:
If not for the activities of thugs and compromised INEC and security officials, why exactly should a party not having agent in all polling stations be a problem? ... In a sane and civilised society, a candidate without 'structure' can win elections as long as they are popular. But in a barbaric society like ours, such a candidate irrespective of how popular he is, still needs to plant agents everywhere to prevent his votes from being tampered with. What a shame!

Whether we like it or not, the structure we talk of, the structure which APC and PDP arrogantly brag about is a structure of criminality.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by seborrhic(op): 9:51am On Feb 26, 2023
Hopium:
the nonsense obi did this election where they voted 90-100% for LP in their pu's leaving other parties with nothing is another dent to the SE in national piolitics. how can other regions trust people like that?
This point is without foundation and irrelevant because the north has been doing same.
The SE has NASS members from apga,PDP and APC.
What can you say about states like Borno,Yobe,Katsina,Zamfara that toll similar if not worse ethnic lines.
They believed in obi and have always seen the APC as a party that has victimised and ignored the region and inflicted suffering,hence their almost exclusive voting pattern in this election.
It wasn't always like that.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by LordAdam16: 9:53am On Feb 26, 2023
seborrhic:
Soludo is looking like an option further down the line.
But by 2031,if Tinubu wins and completes 2 terms,the North would say it's their turn and a Tinubu would be obliged to put his structures behind a consensus northern candidate.
An Ibo presidency,by that scenario,can only be feasible by 2039!
My only grouse and fear about a Tinubu presidency,as it's likely now,is that he is surrounded and supported by same crooks ,in different spheres,that a system should do without.His mental capacity due to age is also another fear,lest we go back to the same situation now,where a small clique of family members and cronies,rule in his name.
Otherwise, ordinarily I see Tinubu being a better president than Buhari
Tinubu will do his 8 years. A Northerner will do 8 years after. It's anyone's guess who'll be the frontrunner in 2039. But the North and West will be more comfortable giving it to the South South than the SE.

Tinubu made a deal with the devil to be President. Buhari is a low bar. Three months of any of the three frontrunners will be better than 8 years of Buhari. I'm not primarily concerned about performance. If Tinubu's deal is to place a barricade around SW and tell his Northern lackeys to do whatever they like in the rest of the country in security matters, what will the Better South do? Does Tinubu sound like the type of politician who would stop supplies from being airlifted to hideouts in Delta or Ebonyi? At least if Okowa is there, it will be that he is sidelined. Shettima will be ringleader.

Lagos and Ogun are the financial and industrial nerve centers of the country. He will perform wonders there; bring Osun, Oyo, and Ekiti into the fray; pat his back and leave after 8 years. Best he will do in the SS/SE is the token infrastructure like a train connection. In the North, he will just dump money into Oil Prospecting and they'll be satisfied.

As for Peter Obi, powerful Igbos are too republican to work together for a common cause. Many of these neophytes that rode to power on Obi's back will backstab him. The most unreliable creature in the universe is an Igbo man with means. By second year, they'll start decamping to APC to secure federal might and for their ambitions in the center. Now that they have LP, APGA, APC, PDP as major power brokers the infighting will get worse not better.

And I don't trust Peter's ability to build a coalition. See this horse-trading that Tinubu has been doing effortlessly is very difficult to replicate. All those we no dey give shi shi might work with the hoi polloi who you'd normally appease with 2K. It would not work with the power brokers in other regions who spend 600K on diesel for one of their properties per month.

-Lord
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by CSTRR: 9:59am On Feb 26, 2023
Hopium:
You're disturbing yourself.

The north will not vote for an igbo. If him like make him for atomic and molecular structure, him no go win. BTW, by 2027 he will be 65, i'm waiting to see the kind of lie he will tell the gullible youths. If Asiwaju perform excellently (I've faith he will), he's coming for second term. Then Obi's presidential ambition is over.

I'm waiting for Soludo to see the kin of magic he will do with APGA.

An igbo who will successfully align with the south will become president.
Labour party is doing well in the north, and this one is talking nonsense.
Even the north will leave you in your backwardness.

igbo man kee you there.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by CSTRR: 10:02am On Feb 26, 2023
LordAdam16:
Tinubu will do his 8 years. A Northerner will do 8 years after. It's anyone's guess who'll be the frontrunner in 2039. But the North and West will be more comfortable giving it to the South South than the SE.

Tinubu made a deal with the devil to be President. Buhari is a low bar. Three months of any of the three frontrunners will be better than 8 years of Buhari. I'm not primarily concerned about performance. If Tinubu's deal is to place a barricade around SW and tell his Northern lackeys to do whatever they like in the rest of the country in security matters, what will the Better South do? Does Tinubu sound like the type of politician who would stop supplies from being airlifted to hideouts in Delta or Ebonyi? At least if Okowa is there, it will be that he is sidelined. Shettima will be ringleader.

Lagos and Ogun are the financial and industrial nerve centers of the country. He will perform wonders there; bring Osun, Oyo, and Ekiti into the fray; pat his back and leave after 8 years. Best he will do in the SS/SE is the token infrastructure like a train connection. In the North, he will just dump money into Oil Prospecting and they'll be satisfied.

As for Peter Obi, powerful Igbos are too republican to work together for a common cause. Many of these neophytes that rode to power on Obi's back will backstab him. The most unreliable creature in the universe is an Igbo man with means. By second year, they'll start decamping to APC to secure federal might and for their ambitions in the center. Now that they have LP, APGA, APC, PDP as major power brokers the infighting will get worse not better.

And I don't trust Peter's ability to build a coalition. See this horse-trading that Tinubu has been doing effortlessly is very difficult to replicate. All those we no dey give shi shi might work with the hoi polloi who you'd normally appease with 2K. It would not work with the power brokers in other regions who spend 600K on diesel for one of their properties per month.

-Lord
The transactional politics is exactly where the problem is.
That is the source of the underdevelopment.

Backward transactional politics. They will share it all among themselves.

Labour party is eating good in the senate and HOR.

Peter obi has all the men and women he will need there.

And besides, a lot of charlatans will decamp to labour if he wins, or they risk being swept by the new Nigeria.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by Hopium: 10:03am On Feb 26, 2023
CSTRR:
Labour party is doing well in the north, and this one is talking nonsense.
Even the north will leave you in your backwardness.

igbo man kee you there.
What north?

North ko. Sahara desert ni.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by seborrhic(op): 10:06am On Feb 26, 2023
baralatie:
Those rode me?
Those one go soon port when Dem reach abuja
The surprise would be them not porting
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by CSTRR: 10:06am On Feb 26, 2023
Hopium:
What north?

North ko. Sahara desert ni.
Sorry, I have forgotten that Benue, taraba, plateau, Abuja, nassaraw, Niger , e.t.c. are now part of southern Nigeria.

If bigotry is your sickness, not everybody share in your disease.

Carry your sickness alone.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by Hopium: 10:07am On Feb 26, 2023
seborrhic:
This point is without foundation and irrelevant because the north has been doing same.
The SE has NASS members from apga,PDP and APC.
What can you say about states like Borno,Yobe,Katsina,Zamfara that toll similar if not worse ethnic lines.
They believed in obi and have always seen the APC as a party that has victimised and ignored the region and inflicted suffering,hence their almost exclusive voting pattern in this election.
It wasn't always like that.
Where in the history of Nigeria presidential election have you see entire states in a region voting 90-100% for their candidate?

I know you've seen results from the SW and North, the Yorubas and Northerners voted across board.

Dey there dey play. The repercussion of the tribal game you played is not now.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by CSTRR: 10:08am On Feb 26, 2023
baralatie:
Those rode me?
Those one go soon port when Dem reach abuja
if they port, they would lose re-election in four years time.

Strong party men from pdp and apc are losing their election thanks to the people's anger.

It would be foolish to toe the same line.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by Hopium: 10:09am On Feb 26, 2023
CSTRR:
Sorry, I have forgotten that Benue, taraba, plateau, Abuja, nassaraw, Niger , e.t.c. are now part of southern Nigeria.

If bigotry is your sickness, not everybody share in your disease.

Carry your sickness alone.
Currently,

Benue - APC
Plateau - LP
Abuja -PDP
Niger - APC
Taraba - PDP
Nassarawa - APC
Kogi - APC
Kwara - APC

Go and update your data.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by CSTRR: 10:10am On Feb 26, 2023
Gbajagbamiala is not going back to the National assembly.

The wave of labour swept him away.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by CSTRR: 10:10am On Feb 26, 2023
Hopium:
Currently,

Benue - APC
Plateau - LP
Abuja -PDP
Niger - APC
Taraba - PDP
Nassarawa - APC
Kogi - APC
Kwara - APC

Go and update your data.
Keep dreaming.

Agbado induced results.

Your eye go clear soon.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by Hopium: 10:11am On Feb 26, 2023
CSTRR:
The transactional politics is exactly where the problem is.
That is the source of the underdevelopment.

Backward transactional politics. They will share it all among themselves.

Labour party is eating good in the senate and HOR.

Peter obi has all the men and women he will need there.

And besides, a lot of charlatans will decamp to labour if he wins, or they risk being swept by the new Nigeria.
You understand the game, but fail to play by the rule. That's fo0lery.

Those LP wey win HoR, HoA will deflect to APC and PDP in the coming months/year. Quote me by end of 2024.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by baralatie(m): 10:11am On Feb 26, 2023
CSTRR:
if they port, they would lose re-election in four years time.

Strong party men from pdp and apc are losing their election thanks to the people's anger.

It would be foolish to toe the same line.
The ones that parted in the last election are still there in this current election!
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by CSTRR: 10:17am On Feb 26, 2023
Hopium:
You understand the game, but fail to play by the rule. That's fo0lery.

Those LP wey win HoR, HoA will deflect to APC and PDP in the coming months/year. Quote me by end of 2024.
There is nothing they have to gain from defecting to pdp and apc.

PDP and apc did not protect the ones that came before them, so how will it protect them from the anger of the people in four years time.?

That is the beauty of this election. Power belongs to the people.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by CSTRR: 10:19am On Feb 26, 2023
if pdpapc cannot protect gbaja, umahi, kalu, then who are you that it will protect you if you betray the people's trust?
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by CSTRR: 10:21am On Feb 26, 2023
These are the results from labour party situation room.

Labour party is leading in 17 states.

https://twitter.com/HisKnowledgeabl/status/1629728626680659968
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by seborrhic(op): 10:23am On Feb 26, 2023
CSTRR:
These are the results from labour party situation room.

Labour party is leading in 17 states.

https://twitter.com/HisKnowledgeabl/status/1629728626680659968
Interesting hours ahead
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by Hopium: 10:27am On Feb 26, 2023
CSTRR:
There is nothing they have to gain from defecting to pdp and apc.

PDP and apc did not protect the ones that came before them, so how will it protect them from the anger of the people in four years time.?

That is the beauty of this election. Power belongs to the people.
Ok. We shall see.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by Pascal9: 10:32am On Feb 26, 2023
seborrhic:
It doesn't make sense for one Fulani to replace another Fulani.
then be ready to be ruled by Muslims for 24 straight yes, fools
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by LordAdam16: 10:34am On Feb 26, 2023
obailala:
If not for the activities of thugs and compromised INEC and security officials, why exactly should a party not having agents in all polling stations be a problem? ...

Just imagine the nonsense happening in Rivers state where OBI is extremely popular and where APC is despised. Even the LP party agents were chased away from collation centres by policemen attached to the governor and compromised INEC officials were made not to upload results and in some instances, results werent even counted infront of voters.

In a sane and civilised society, a candidate without 'structure' can win elections as long as they are popular. But in a barbaric society like ours, such a candidate irrespective of how popular he is, still needs to plant agents everywhere to prevent his votes from being tampered with. What a shame!

Whether we like it or not, the structure we talk of, the structure which APC and PDP arrogantly brag about is a structure of criminality.
It is a problem the world over. Even in the US, in 2020, in Georgia, party poll watchers were ushered out of the collation center, then the windows were barricaded. And hours later Biden pulled ahead surprisingly.

The default nature of humans is to do whatever is possible to get their way. If they have to cut corners, they will. That is why the US has 100+ bases, 10+ aircraft carriers sailing the oceans, and all that. Tomorrow if we act stubbornly and go against one of their red lines, they'll cook up a pretext and take another swing at gun-barrel diplomacy.

Tinubu has been working towards this for 20 years. You are not going to expect him to entertain "saner clime" noise, when his ambition is well within his grasp. Even if he holds back, the likes of Oluomo who have benefitted humongously from his political capital will act on their own initiative.

The hallmark of civilized societies is being able to whitewash their barbarism. Believing otherwise is naïve. JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and UBS over the past few weeks have been decrying the shady economic data coming out of the US. Do you think the Democrats and Biden care? F*ck no.

Canada arrested, closed bank accounts, and seized donation funds of peaceful protesters with bouncy castles. They're stereotypically the politest people on the planet. Thinking you're going to change this country by getting everyone to hold hands, sing kumbaya, and hum mantras while sitting in a peaceful oasis; is how we consistently these horrible outcomes.

In any case, you wanted Tinubu, so I'm not sure why you're complaining. This is his trademark.

You guys will do f*ck all until 2031, then start complaining about PDP and APC, when things do not go your way. Play the game, then reform it from the inside. That's what Tinubu did in Lagos. Too bad he is an ethnic supremacist.

Obi should have taken the VP offer. If Atiku underperforms, he builds an image of being sidelined like Osinbajo. Then in 2031, he'll repeat Jonathan's 2011 landslide. But patience is a virtue that sounds simple in theory, but hard to practice.

Most of us here are doing fine. But before you know it 8 turns into 16, 16 turns in 24. Next thing you know, you're getting grandkids. And although they don't ask, you'll pretend like you don't feel some way about their Nigerian passports gathering dust while mothers are r*ped in the hinterlands.

-Lord
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by frankyychiji: 10:37am On Feb 26, 2023
JagabanBorgu:
But LP never had party agents in thousands upon thousands of polling units, LP don't have càndidàtes to feature in most states of Nigeria, that's the structure, those càndidàtes are what will influence votes in his favor outside the influence of social media.
Those who neglected buying nomination tickets under the LP are regretting it now.
If kwankwaso had agreed to be his running mate, this election would have been over before it started.
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by OfoIgbo: 10:39am On Feb 26, 2023
seborrhic:
It doesn't make sense for one Fulani to replace another Fulani.
Igbos will definitely not be supporting a Muslim/Muslim ticket also
Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by Highremedy: 10:45am On Feb 26, 2023
You have spoken well bro.... I never expected victory but I want LP to give APC and PDP the run for their money.
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