Hopium:


Ok. We shall see.

Leave am
Let inec start announcing results then
We will all judge

CSTRR:

The transactional politics is exactly where the problem is.
That is the source of the underdevelopment.

Backward transactional politics. They will share it all among themselves.

Labour party is eating good in the senate and HOR.

Peter obi has all the men and women he will need there.

And besides, a lot of charlatans will decamp to labour if he wins, or they risk being swept by the new Nigeria.

Transactional politics happens all over the planet. That is how US congressmen become millionaires.

The source of our underdevelopment is terminally st*pid people in all levers of society.

All Peter Obi has done is create another APGA, AD, NPN. He is not winning sh*t and managing the opportunists who rode on his popularity will be a full time job.

Not that I care about it. He has played his role. Life goes on.

-Lord

seborrhic:
The typical Nigerian politician's mindset and the operating stereotype in Nigeria is that once they lose elections after contesting under a minority party,even if the party does appreciably well and wins some seats,is for them to go quiet till the next general elections,or decamp to the ruling party at the earliest opportunity.
The Labour party,primarily because of the dream that Peter obi brought,has done marvellously well in these elections,though it fell short of general victory.
LP is likely going to win significant number of seats in the senate and HOR and its presence would also be registered even in areas in the North it didn't do well.
That is why it's now incumbent on Obi not to do any of the following:
Despair and go quiet politically
Decamp to the ruling party or back to the PDP,unless to form a major alliance with it.
Allow the LP to become a voiceless,timid opposition,rather than the one that would hold the incoming government of Tinubu to account for its policies.The LP should become the active voice of the Nigerian people,lest the same pains and ignored cries people suffered under the Buhari government persists.
Obi should also start to form the structures of the LP using its elected members and ensure or find a strategy that ensures that those that won elections under the party, primarily due to Obi 's influence,don't decamp to the ruling party.
He should not become like an Agbaje who only becomes active during Lagos Guber polls or an Atiku for example,who only thinks and plans for the presidency towards the tail end of a government.
He should learn from what Tinubu has done and build on it,building structures, alliances,only that his own alliance should be with honest,determined individuals with the same mindset to grow the LP to a formidable force that will give the then ruling party a tougher fight on all fronts,come 2027.

God forbid that PO loses, I don't see him contesting again.
He is not a career politician. he may likely go back to his private life.

frankyychiji:
Those who neglected buying nomination tickets under the LP are regretting it now.
If kwankwaso had agreed to be his running mate, this election would have been over before it started.

The Kwankwaso rejection was pretty funny and naive.
Funny in the sense that he was reported to have said he can't be vice to Obi but rather should be the other way round.This was even when it was obvious that Obi was gathering momentum and was becoming a formidable force,unlike a Kwankwaso that was only known and expected to do well in Kano.
Naive in the sense that with him deputizing obi he had a very good chance of becoming a VP and thereafter even the president after obi completes his tenure and power shifts back to the North.
But the clown had an over exaggerated sense of his political worth as a main candidate.

oni will not contest for president again

We warned you so called obidients but you were too foolish to listen

Obi was a stool used by Tinubu

Obi and his gullible supporters gave tinubu the presidency on a platter.

KalakutaRepub:
You don't know Soludo so how is he a better option?

Look bro, easterners just want a good leader. Did yaradua receive any attacks from the east? NO. Give us a conducive business environment and we're good to go. Then respect federal character in your appointments.

You can bring presidency in 2080 if you like.

you are don't want presidency but you shouting obidient up and down, Bleep off pretender

LordAdam16:


It is a problem the world over. Even in the US, in 2020, in Georgia, party poll watchers were ushered out of the collation center, then the windows were barricaded. And hours later Biden pulled ahead surprisingly.

The default nature of humans is to do whatever is possible to get their way. If they have to cut corners, they will. That is why the US has 100+ bases, 10+ aircraft carriers sailing the oceans, and all that. Tomorrow if we act stubbornly and go against one of their red lines, they'll cook up a pretext and take another swing at gun-barrel diplomacy.

Tinubu has been working towards this for 20 years. You are not going to expect him to entertain "saner clime" noise, when his ambition is well within his grasp. Even if he holds back, the likes of Oluomo who have benefitted humongously from his political capital will act on their own initiative.

The hallmark of civilized societies is being able to whitewash their barbarism. Believing otherwise is naïve. JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and UBS over the past few weeks have been decrying the shady economic data coming out of the US. Do you think the Democrats and Biden care? F*ck no.

Canada arrested, closed bank accounts, and seized donation funds of peaceful protesters with bouncy castles. They're stereotypically the politest people on the planet. Thinking you're going to change this country by getting everyone to hold hands, sing kumbaya, and hum mantras while sitting in a peaceful oasis; is how we consistently these horrible outcomes.

In any case, you wanted Tinubu, so I'm not sure why you're complaining. This is his trademark.

You guys will do f*ck all until 2031, then start complaining about PDP and APC, when things do not go your way. Play the game, then reform it from the inside. That's what Tinubu did in Lagos. Too bad he is an ethnic supremacist.

Obi should have taken the VP offer. If Atiku underperforms, he builds an image of being sidelined like Osinbajo. Then in 2031, he'll repeat Jonathan's 2011 landslide. But patience is a virtue that sounds simple in theory, but hard to practice.

Most of us here are doing fine. But before you know it 8 turns into 16, 16 turns in 24. Next thing you know, you're getting grandkids. And although they don't ask, you'll pretend like you don't feel some way about their Nigerian passports gathering dust while mothers are r*ped in the hinterlands.

-Lord

At the end, we all agree that the only structure which the LP doesnt have and which the APC and PDP arrogantly brag about is just a structure of criminality.

Summary of all you've said is that this structure of criminality also exists in the US.

ifihearam:
We warned you so called obidients but you were too foolish to listen

Obi was a stool used by Tinubu

Obi and his gullible supporters gave tinubu the presidency on a platter.

This is neither here nor there!

JagabanBorgu:
Ok, the electoral acts are wrong now because ur càndidàte couldn't provide agents for 2/3 of polling units acróss the country, u didn't talk about the càndidàtes they don't have to feature, I guess In a sane country, having càndidàtes on the ballot is poor too.

Not sure I comprehend what you're trying to say. Whoever mentioned anything about an electoral act and what does that have to do with your 'criminal structured' party rigging the election in broad day light?

obailala:
Not sure I comprehend what you're trying to say. Whoever mentioned anything about an electoral act and what does that have to do with your 'criminal structured' party rigging the election in broad day light?

It's constitutional to bring party agents, I don't see why u are trying to make it a crime now.
Ur party can't field càndidàtes in so many states, that's structure.

obailala:
At the end, we all agree that the only structure which the LP doesnt have and which the APC and PDP arrogantly brag about is just a structure of criminality.

Summary of all you've said is that this structure of criminality also exists in the US.

If an intruder breaks into your house at night, you don't walk down the stairs to converse with him. You pick a weapon for the safety of your family.

PDP and APC are working their magic in their strongholds currently, while you're whining on the Internet. If you can't help yourself to win an election against undemocratic forces, how do you intend to help those who you made fantastic, unobtainable promises to.

In 2015, you were indifferent when the Kano REC and his family were burned to death, so that Buhari could defeat the incumbent. Obi relied on PDP structure in 2019 to get votes in the North.

Now, you have a problem with structure of criminality when it serves your narrative. All of you are not ready. I only pity the average folks who were hoodwinked to believe your postulations of grandeur that Obi's win was inevitable.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


If an intruder breaks into your house at night, you don't walk down the stairs to converse with him. You pick a weapon for the safety of your family.

PDP and APC are working their magic in their strongholds currently, while you're whining on the Internet. If you can't help yourself to win an election against undemocratic forces, how do you intend to help those who you made fantastic, unobtainable promises to.

In 2015, you were indifferent when the Kano REC and his family were burned to death, so that Buhari could defeat the incumbent. Obi relied on PDP structure in 2019 to get votes in the North.

Now, you have a problem with structure of criminality when it serves your narrative. All of you are not ready. I only pity the average folks who were hoodwinked to believe your postulations of grandeur that Obi's win was inevitable.

-Lord

You're still saying the same thing - It's a structure of criminality!

Keep applauding criminality and barbarism simply because you think it favours you.

naijapips04:
There is no structure to build. LP was an abberation. Obi should apologize and return back to the PDP then build a formidable structure within.

But he has caused so much damage to himself and PDP. I'm not sure both can even recover.

The fact LP doesnt have a structure of godfatherism, corruption, nepotism and cronyism is what got obi to where he is. why continue with PDP that brought nigeria to a decline then APC took hold and sent it down the deep end?

JagabanBorgu:

It's constitutional to bring party agents, I don't see why u are trying to make it a crime now.
Ur party can't field càndidàtes in so many states, that's structure.

Yes its constitutional because the constitution recognises that some people could be criminally minded and want to manipulate results.

The constitution encourages party to have witnessing agents to prevent manipulation of any kind against their results. But unfortunately in Nigeria, the party agents, in connivance with electoral officers, police and military, are the principal culprits who manipulate the results. That's why the PDAPC brags about having agents everywhere and taunts smaller parties like LP for not having sufficient agents. It's all about manipulation and criminality.

seborrhic:

The Kwankwaso rejection was pretty funny and naive.
Funny in the sense that he was reported to have said he can't be vice to Obi but rather should be the other way round.This was even when it was obvious that Obi was gathering momentum and was becoming a formidable force,unlike a Kwankwaso that was only known and expected to do well in Kano.
Naive in the sense that with him deputizing obi he had a very good chance of becoming a VP and thereafter even the president after obi completes his tenure and power shifts back to the North.
But the clown had an over exaggerated sense of his political worth as a main candidate.

As things stand, Kwankwaso is the leading candidate for 2031. If Tinubu f*ck up in the next 4 years, the North will pull their support and give it to Kwankwaso in 2027. He'll pick a SS VP and it'll be a replay of 2015.

So you can't call him naïve. Following Atiku was also a bad deal for him because a Southerner will take over from Atiku.

The truth is that the North is not ready for an Igbo presidency. Especially not while Kanu is in Kuje, Ekpa is destabilizing the East from Finland. And IPOB/UGM are assassinating people every week.

But when we told Obi this before the PDP primaries, he took offense. Obi will release Kanu. Tinubu won't. If Atiku wins due to Northern votes, he likely won't as well. Manage VP and show the North you can be trusted with power, he scatter table. Now he has 90% in the SE and is watching the SW rig for Tinubu, the SS rig for Atiku/Tinubu, and the North rig for Atiku/Tinubu.

-Lord

obailala:
You're still saying the same thing - It's a structure of criminality!

Keep applauding criminality and barbarism simply because you think it favours you.

As a hypocrite per excellence, you stopped applauding it when it stopped favoring you.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


As a hypocrite per excellence, you stopped applauding it when it stopped favoring you.

-Lord

Oga no need for clownish trash, Ive been on this forum for long enough. Kindly go back and point out where Obailala supportrf or applauded the murder of REC officer or just sharrap!

obailala:
Oga no need for clownish trash, Ive been on this forum for long enough. Kindly go back and point out where Obailala supportrf or applauded the murder of REC officer or just sharrap!

Right, you celebrated Buhari's win. But the REC's murder that gave him a Kardashian vote torrent, you had a problem with.

Guy rest.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


Right, you celebrated Buhari's win. But the REC's murder that gave him a Kardashian vote torrent, you had a problem with.

Guy rest.

-Lord

So because I celebrated his victory it automatically means i excused and applauded electoral violence and murder? Clowns!

LordAdam16:


Transactional politics happens all over the planet. That is how US congressmen become millionaires.

The source of our underdevelopment is terminally st*pid people in all levers of society.

All Peter Obi has done is create another APGA, AD, NPN. He is not winning sh*t and managing the opportunists who rode on his popularity will be a full time job.

Not that I care about it. He has played his role. Life goes on.

-Lord

Transactional polifud as crude as that of Nigeria?

Can you carry out the kind of transactional politics we have in Nigeria in the US and fbi will not carry you?

When you talk about transactional politics in America, we talk about people lobbying for govt projects to go their states or localities in exchange for political support.

That is the kind of transaction that goes on in the Chambers of power in first world countries.

They don't loot billions of dollars in exchange for political support like we see in Nigeria.

They don't share dollars just to win primaries.

Their corruption perception index is not in the gutters.

Why are you deceiving yourself?

Are you going to benefit from the transaction?

CSTRR:

Transactional polifud as crude as that of Nigeria?

Can you carry out the kind of transactional politics we have in Nigeria in the US and fbi will not carry you?

When you talk about transactional politics in America, we talk about people lobbying for govt projects to go their states or localities in exchange for political support.

That is the kind of transaction that goes on in the Chambers of power in first world countries.

They don't loot billions of dollars in exchange for political support like we see in Nigeria.

They don't share dollars just to win primaries.

Their corruption perception index is not in the gutters.

Why are you deceiving yourself?

Are you going to benefit from the transaction?

Chief, transaction is transaction.

Their transactions lead to positive outcomes. Ours don't.

As such, you should not blame the concept. Blame the people.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


Chief, transaction is transaction.

Their transactions lead to positive outcomes. Ours don't.

As such, you should not blame the concept. Blame the people.

-Lord

Transaction is not Transaction.

Some transactions are criminal.

Some transactions will land you in FBI custody.

Stop clowning.

CSTRR:

Transaction is not Transaction.

Some transactions are criminal.

Some transactions will land you in FBI custody.

Stop clowning.

His clowning is not here.
Long,verbose posts with little substance at the end

seborrhic:

His clowning is not here.
Long,verbose posts with little substance at the end

That is what supporting Tinubu does to you.

It makes you argue against your own interests.

Look at him supporting criminal Transactional politics as if he is going to benefit from the dollars that tinubu is going to share from our treasury.

We are fuckkked, but a lot of people don't know it yet.

I will be here for it when tinubu starts manifesting.