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Then what is the 2/3 of the 37 states?

N3TRAL:
Winning FCT Not Requirement To Emerge President – Falana



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.channelstv.com/2023/01/24/winning-fct-not-requirement-to-emerge-president-falana/amp/

Willie2015:
Thks for the link

We learn everyday

It was a wuru wuru move by Obasanjo though which is why the Supreme Court said the judgement does not set a legal precedence.

It’s not today Obasanjo has been rigging. And this is the root of the Hatred if Ibasanjo by the Yorubas as well as his role in June 12.

GOTVee:
Even though I'm a born again Christian, I will like to use this opportunity to thank my fellow Nigerian Christians for voting massively for the candidate with the Muslim/Muslim ticket. This election has proven that we Christians and our Muslim brothers are one. Peter Obi tried to divide us by running a religious campaign but we Christians stood our ground and rejected him. May God continue to bless we Christians and Muslims for bringing this renewed Hope to our great country

Who be this one??

If there's precedence like this it won't be a problem anymore.

Egoat:
Firstly, Shagari won this same election in 1983
Exactly something like this. 12 states out of 19.
Secondly, even if a runoff is declared, Obi isn't the runner up. That's my fear. Rerun would be between Atiku and Tinubu.

soojar:
What's the flaw sir? Shagari won 12 states out of 19 and 2/3 of 19 states is supposed to be 12.666.


The court ruled that 12 is sufficient if they consider the number of actual people that voted and getting 2/3 of that.

I am saying the court affirmed the 12 states he won which made Awo to claim he was given extra state to make 13, since you can't actually get the 12.666 state to make the exact 2/3 of 19



We learn everyday

Egbon, see what you wrote.

..the supreme court ruled that since its people we are talking about and you can't have decimal people so it has to be rounded off to 13, Awolowo was insisting that in that situation it should be rounded down to 12,...

The supreme Court didn't say it had to be rounded off to 13. Supreme Court supported 12 not 13. And it was Awolowo that insisted 13 was the appropriate number of states to be won.
And after that particular judgement, supreme Court stated specifically that the judgement can't be sited as precedence.
I think that was necessary because they knew they were wrong to have supported 12 over 13. And it's reason Awolowo felt cheated.
Any debate?

Fuadx1:
If there's precedence like this it won't be a problem anymore.

Actually there's a problem.

The judge specifically stated that that particular judgement should not be used as precedence.

Walahi, it's specifically stated.

HIPROFILE:
Noo bro a rerun will be between candidate that got the highest vote by sates and candidate that got the most 25% of the states.

Yes boss. Someone later pointed it out and I've confirmed it.

AroleOduduwa2:
Why haven't they declared him the next President? The FCT is not a state, and the law requires you to have at least 25% after having the majority of votes and meeting the 25% in at least two-thirds of the country.

Oga them never collate finish na...una blood too de hot!

Those people arguing whether FCT has the status of a state or not are missing the point.

It does not matter what status FCT has.

THE BONE OF CONTENTION IS WHETHER IT IS COMPULSORY TO SCORE AT LEAST 25% VOTES IN THE FCT TO BE DECLARED A WINNER IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.

That is the question that will be before the courts. It's untested.

It could be mere semantics or technicalities, but the use of the word "AND" in the construction means a lot.
The constitution is SUPREME.

Neoteny7:
Chai!

Falana why?

You've just shredded the last hope of the obidiotz.

What would the zombies do now?

Yell Biafra again as they've been doing for the past 40 years?

He said you don't have to win FCT.He didn't not say you don't have to get 25% of the total votes cast.
There is going to be rerun.

casualobserver:
It was a wuru wuru move by Obasanjo though which is why the Supreme Court said the judgement does not set a legal precedence.

It’s not today Obasanjo has been rigging. And this is the root of the Hatred if Ibasanjo by the Yorubas as well as his role in June 12.

I understand...
Same thing might likely happen...
Unless Buhari is interested in Interim govt....
Thks a Million

Falana didn't say winning 25%. He said its not a must to win FCT.
See what the constitution says at subsection 1b and 2b.

Willie2015:
I understand...
Same thing might likely happen...
Unless Buhari is interested in Interim govt....
Thks a Million

PDP and Labour are just making noise. They know they lost. Even if you cancel the elections in any disputed areas they can’t catch Tinubu so they want the whole election cancelled.

It’s I teresti g to note that Labour is showing their true character…obi and Datti are ex-PDP

OLADD:
My friend., I am Yoruba by tribe. Tinubu has not met all the required tenets of the law to become president. HE MUST SCORE 25% IN FCT to be declared president.

What is special in FCT

Kelvin3476:
Skull minning terrorists thought that the only way to power is by thuggery, rigging and shading of blood.

i pray that if this government brings good, let his fellowers and regions get the best of it .
but if its bad let them enjoy the worst of it.

thats if he is sworn in as the president come may.


say a big AMEN ?

Ọd ẹ
See painment

Losing is such an emotional thing

Egoat:
Egbon, see what you wrote.

The supreme Court didn't say it had to be rounded off to 13. Supreme Court supported 12 not 13. And it was Awolowo that was insisted 13 was the appropriate number of states to be won.
And after that particular judgement, supreme Court stated specifically that the judgement can't be used as future precedence.
I think that was necessary because they new they were wrong to have supported 12 over 13. And it's reason Awolowo felt cheated.
Any debate?

Thank you for calling my attention to that.




We learn everyday

soojar:
Thank you for calling my attention to that.




We learn everyday

You're welcome, boss.

drimzsmoke:
Bros,I want you to pay attention cause I won’t repeat myself....
We have 36 states + the FCT
The FCT is not a state,so you can’t say 25states.If you say 25 states,that automatically leaves out the FCT.In other to include the FCT,you say 24 states and the FCT!!!

Ok why not just say 25% in 24 states without mentioning a name.
You can't twist the originality of a language..

I no fit count how many places I don see this particular content today.
Copy and paste merchants.

N3TRAL:
Section 299 of the constitution says that for the purpose of interpretation of the Constitution, the FCT is regarded as a State.

The implication is that:

The FCT is a State but given a name.

Since the FCT is given a name by the drafts men, it won't be right to say 37 states.

However, the name is 36 States and the FCT. It simply means 37 states.

Tinubu has met the requirements.

The court has affirmed that position and the constitution is clear.

ElBenny:
I no fit count how many places I don see this particular content today.
Copy and paste merchants.

They copied it here. Go check the time they were posted and come back.

AroleOduduwa2:
You need 25% there though, that's the interpretation of the law. The Federal Capital Territory (FCT), is the capital territory of Nigeria, and it is in this territory that the capital city of Abuja is located. The FCT is not a state but is administered by elected officials who are supervised by the federal government.

I think Buhari set us all up, they will definitely form an interim government while there is a rerun.

This your bedroom interpretation of the law though

N3TRAL:
There will be no rerun. Tinubu has met the requirement of the law.

The FCT is a stand alone. So 25% in Abuja is sacrosanc.

Obrigardo:
You didn't have to refer to a group of people like that. There are better words you could use.

It's sad that nairaland moderators have essentially taken a break.

This should warrant your account and IP ban but I'm sorry that the mods might not take action.

Cc: Mynd44?

Don't be unfortunate... Has your brain just resumed after taking a long break? Nairaland has become a bigoted mess by name calling Ibos and obidients, who go about bullying, intimidating and name-calling anyone that is not in their camp... The likes of you didn't call for decorum back then, but you want to do it now?

I'm glad Obi isn't winning... If he was, the Pepper would have been unfathomable.

Just dey watch and enjoy the light peppering Tinubu folks are dishing, they have been modest, very very modest.

GeneralPula:
25% in at least 24 states, + FCT..
25% in at least 24 states, and FCT..

There is a diff between those 2 up. Interpret properly and you’ll have your answer..

what is the difference our dear lord denning?

Oga, what did you study, tautology?

ubox:
What is special in FCT

Ask the Constitution

BigBrother9ja:
Lol

OSŪS thought winning Lagos and Abuja is enough for you to be sworn in as president


I'm so happy God put them to shame

We taught them and those few brainwashed mofos ọmọ ale jatijati that, being TOXIC, ABUSIVE AND AGGRESSIVE doesn't win election

Arent you ashamed of yourself?
Making fool of yourself on this forum
So all these people spread across the whole country calling INEC to order are all and only Igbos right?
If you have anything against the Igbos, speak it out but never be jealous of anyone just because they are successful in one way or the other

NigerianAngelo:
Don't be a fool.

That simply means you need 25 states!

no, 24 states. 24.6 states is not a whole number

casualobserver:
It was a wuru wuru move by Obasanjo though which is why the Supreme Court said the judgement does not set a legal precedence.

It’s not today Obasanjo has been rigging. And this is the root of the Hatred if Ibasanjo by the Yorubas as well as his role in June 12.

June 12, u are wise, he might have hands in M.K.O case & that of is wife. God bless you. His family will know the truth and fact about the June12. Nigerians will revenge evil men who ruined our future & life. We are seating on time bomb, 9ja is sick, bleading, diseases. Any bad things you can think of is happening in this country. No savior is coming, unless youths begin to speak out the truth.

Egoat:
Firstly, Shagari won this same election in 1983
Exactly something like this. 12 states out of 19.
Secondly, even if a runoff is declared, Obi isn't the runner up. That's my fear. Rerun would be between Atiku and Tinubu.

I believe Obi might have a chance at catching up with Atiku’s vote count.

Egoat:
Point is that.
Popular opinion has it that one needs to win 25% in 2/3 of the 36 states abi? And the 2/3 of 36 states is 24.
If FCT is recognized as a state then 2/3 of 37 states is 24.6 which is not a whole number.
Then it's possibly safe to say 2/3 of 36 states and FCT is 25 states and not 24 states as commonly believed.

Let me help you simplify it. If someone makes the simple majority and makes 25% in 24 state the person will be declared winner.

The same law didn’t mentioned 25% in majority state, and that’s accompanying the simple majority.

The question is; what is the meaning of the word "and " as used in Section 134 of the Constitution?

Is only when we get the true intentions of the draftsman that we can now proceed to determine whether or not 25% of FCT is a requirement.

But what is the meaning of "and"?

GOTVee:
Even though I'm a born again Christian, I will like to use this opportunity to thank my fellow Nigerian Christians for voting massively for the candidate with the Muslim/Muslim ticket. This election has proven that we Christians and our Muslim brothers are one. Peter Obi tried to divide us by running a religious campaign but we Christians stood our ground and rejected him. May God continue to bless we Christians and Muslims for bringing this renewed Hope to our great country

Born again Christian?...i smile