₦airaland Forum

Faber:
Peter Obi is your next president, bookmark this page. When Dino was shouting "your time have not come, work with Atiku" Obi was laughing at them.
For your mind the meeting Obi attended at Downing Street before decamping to Labour Party was for play right?

Obi is the choice of Britain for Nigeria right now, and no one can stop that. Watch how the BBC is reporting the elections you will understand

tensazangetsu20:
As in eh. Very annoying. Said the same thing since 2021, they were just abusing someone. See am now.

MikeofAfrica:
Let us analyse the election result without sentiment.

Tinubu contested the election on a structure with 21 Governors . Atiku contested on a structure with 14 Governors. Peter Obi contested on a structure with zero Governors.


Hence Tinubu can be compare to a University student considering his party structure. Atiku can be compare to a secondary school student considering his party structure. Obi can be compare to a primary school student considering his party structure.

When the three sat for exam, Tinubu scored 37%, Atiku scored 29% while Obi scored 25%.

While Tinubu came first in the exam, it is obvious that Peter Obi is the most intelligent among the three.
When you relate this to politics, it is obvious that Peter Obi is the strongest politician among the three.

Magnoliaa:
Thank you.

Carry your structure and go.

We don't want.

At least, we can beat our chest now and say, "we did it." Rigging or not. Loss or not.


We will never accept Obi being a vice or second fiddle to anyone, in whatever political space, going forward.


That 2019 alliance was just for that one time...things weren't as dire as now, and we could have managed an Atiku presidency.


I don't know why PDP boys are forming premium sef as if say una nor steal comot from LP votes. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Both you guys and APC all pilfered from LP with your structures. 🤡

Just wait, make we finish dealing with the bigger thief fess.

Kasdat5:
Did he win ?? NO !!
PO was power drunk , & with the euphoria he got within 8months . You can't compare someone who had planned his moves from 2003 & someone with 8months . Coalition wins you elections esp in a crazy country like Nigeria . Forget ANAP stats , forget charisma , forget religion or tribe . A single region can never win the whole country .

LikeAking:
If Peter was a patient soul like Tinubu. PDP would have won this 2023 election...

If you combine Atiku and Peter Obi's votes it supercedes Tinubus vote.

Victory was surly in the hands of PDP, but Peter Obi ruined it..

By now PO, would have been the one jubilating not Tinubu.

Peter will leave to regret is carless 2023 polictical decision..

It's better to be a VP, than having nothing.. He can still contest for the highest office later in life. The most important mission for him to put this one in the bag first.



I rest my case.

tensazangetsu20:
Learn yoruba and the koran. You are gonna need it.

BluntTheApostle:
Your argument is weak.



Tinubu was the strongest.



He had a Muslim-Muslim ticket that was hard to sell.



He was burdened by the perceived terrible performance of APC.



The APC was evidently divided in their support for him. There was obvious antagonism from party members such as Emefiele. In fact, the president's body language did not indicate total support for Tinubu.



Nearly all the churches were against him.




The majority of the Igbos were against him.




Yet he won.




Obi is the weakest of the three frontrunners.



He was painted a saint.


Had the perceived poor performance of the APC to ride on.


Had the general distrust that many have for PDP to ride on.



And yet, he lost.




Give Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu the opportunities Obi had, and Tinubu would have been congratulated as winner before 4pm of election day.

Magnoliaa:
You and who?

For what? 🤣🤣🤣

garykoeman:
So Obi won in sokoto,Kano,niger.zamfara,yobe,jigawa,borno,Katsina, Adamawa.

Kasdat5:
Please never mention GEJ in Nigerian politics ever . One of the weakest ruler we'll ever have on earth . There was no agreement whatsoever in APC on Tinubu. His "structure" he had gathered over the years paved way for him , if not PYO would have gotten the ticket .

Kasdat5:
Tinubu will still emerge victorious , as long as PDP &: LP are on same ballot .

tommy589:
Jonathan was as strong as his supporters. All the states in SW that voted for him in 2011 except Osun have abandoned him. He was appeasing the north with money through links that have no political relevance
On Tinubu,I accept no agreement on him but northern governors insisted the gentleman's agreement on the South turn should be respected. The southern governors also pushed for it. The first meeting on southern presidency was 2021 in Delta state and a communique to that effect was released. The next meeting was at Enugu
With LP and NNPP performance, it's obvious any table can be shaken

MikeofAfrica:
To form a successful coalition in Nigeria politics, you have to first prove that you are a political force that cannot be ignore.

Buhari did this in 2011 under CPC. His performance made ACN and ANPP reach out to him and gave him the alliance presidential ticket because he has proven himself.

Peter Obi has proven himself. Hence watch as PDP and Politicians from APC form alliances with him particularly in NW & NE.

That alliance will sweep Tinubu and APC away by 2027 if they survive the court cases.

MikeofAfrica:
Let me hear word .

Peter Obi is yet to learn politic but he humiliated the Lagos landlord in Lagos.

Tinubu is a lightweight in politics. Shagari defeated Awolowo and Zik in 1979 but the reality is that Shagari is a lightweight in politics while Awolowo and Zik are heavyweights.

Shagari only won because of the solid structure of his party.

Similarly, Tinubu only won because of the structure of his party. Assuming Tinubu and Obi are independent candidates, Obi will not only serve him breakfast in Lagos but in at least 30 states.

MikeofAfrica:
Let me hear word .

Peter Obi is yet to learn politic but he humiliated the Lagos landlord in Lagos.

Tinubu is a lightweight in politics. Shagari defeated Awolowo and Zik in 1979 but the reality is that Shagari is a lightweight in politics while Awolowo and Zik are heavyweights.

Shagari only won because of the solid structure of his party.

Similarly, Tinubu only won because of the structure of his party. Assuming Tinubu and Obi are independent candidates, Obi will not only serve him breakfast in Lagos but in at least 30 states.

MikeofAfrica:
Keep deceiving yourself.

If Buhari poor performance was a burden to Tinubu's campaign, why then did Tinubu went to Aso Rock to beg the same Buhari to join him in his campaign across the the north.

Without Buhari and APC northern Governors, Tinubu would have been humiliated in the north by Atiku. The muslim-muslim ticket was also a good strategy. Had Tinubu settled for a northern Christian, Buhari supporters who are mainly Islamic fundamentals would have serve him breakfast in the north.

The fact is that Tinubu is a lightweight politician. That is the reason he could not win his state even with all the rigging.

He climbed on the back of Buhari and APC northern Governors to win. That was what Shagari did in 1979. He was a lightweight but defeated heavyweights like Zik and Awolowo by climbing the back of the power brokers.

Tinubu as the candidate of Labour party will have finish with 1. 2 million votes and winning only three states - Ogun, Ekiti and Ondo.

Brendaniel:
It's like you did not read my write up well, It has nothing to do with them together or not, even if all the other political parties came together against Tinubu, Tinubu would have still won based on his rigging plan...

LikeAking:
If Peter was a patient soul like Tinubu. PDP would have won this 2023 election...

If you combine Atiku and Peter Obi's votes it supercedes Tinubus vote.

Victory was surly in the hands of PDP, but Peter Obi ruined it..

By now PO, would have been the one jubilating not Tinubu.

Peter will leave to regret is carless 2023 polictical decision..

It's better to be a VP, than having nothing.. He can still contest for the highest office later in life. The most important mission for him to put this one in the bag first.



I rest my case.

Kasdat5:
You mean LP didn't rig too ??
Let's stop decieving ourselves . With or without rigging . APC will floor both parties x100 .

BluntTheApostle:
English no hard now.



The perceived failings of APC was one of the reasons that people gave for not supporting Tinubu.



In fact, on this Nairaland, on Twitter, and even offline, I know the trouble I have gone through trying to convince people that you can't judge Tinubu based on the performances of Buhari.



The usual statements people make is "With all this suffering, I will never vote for APC except I am mad".




It was a big burden for Tinubu having to shake that off. Now, couple with the Muslim-Muslim ticket which was very hard to sell.




Obi had the clearest path to the presidency.



Many were already dissatisfied with Buhari's performance, and they were regarding the performance as an APC performance.



Also, many did not trust PDP.



Also, Obi was the only Christian frontrunner.




Yet, he failed.

Brendaniel:
You people dont still get it, even if they formed alliance with Kwankwaso(PDP+LP+NNPP), Tinubu would have still won based on the arrangement he prepared, he was allocating votes to each party and decided the position each party got, so it is not a case of alliance, Peter Obi won the election with a wide margin and PDP came second while APC came 3rd.

Tinubu was not in the election to contest, he was there to allocate votes and declare himself winner, so no matter the alliance anybody formed, Tinubu had a plan ahead, he placed Obi 3rd to mock him and make PDP feel that the result looks legit.

But PDP too is not falling for it.

Tinubu had rigged the election even before it started....

Kasdat5:
For you to say Tinubu is a light weight ,means you know nothing about politics . Someone who owns a whole region , & presently GCFR incoming .Lol . Awolowo sef dey learn work.
PO humiliated a Lagos landlord .wow 👏👏👏 congrats , his biggest political achivement

Kasdat5:
With that collaboration, we might withness PDP switch to APC . They are like twins . PDP & APC . It's so easy for them to switch up north . NNPP no get levels abeg. LP pulled more votes in sokoto than NNPP .

MikeofAfrica:
Since contesting under a weak structureless party provides the pathway to winning, why did Tinubu not decamp and contest under SDP ?

Why did he spend millions of dollars to get the ticket of APC that you believes added no value to his ambition ?

Forget the few Nigerians in the city who are aware that APC has fail Nigeria. Most Nigerians live in the villages and vote along religious and tribal sentiments. Many also vote base on party structures.

APC lost in the cities like Abuja and Lagos but the villagers gave Tinubu the victory just as they gave Buhari in 2019.

Peter Obi as the candidate of APC will have won with a landslide since both the elites in the city and the villagers will vote him.

The elites in the cities refused to vote APC because they did not see much difference between Tinubu and Buhari. They are both old, sick and have controversial academic background. Buhari is even better than Tinubu in terms of corruption perception.

APC won Benue where the party is hated because their guber candidate is a popular youth. Hence many Nigerians who refused to vote APC would have voted the party had they present a better presidential candidate.

XLence:
1. You're sure he would have been given the VP slot, in a context with Wike? Do you also recall the PDP governors had agreed that one of them must be named vice and no one else? Same WIKE that frustrated zoning to the SE would have also sabotaged his emergence. PO would have been left with nothing and therefore
2. There wouldn't have been on Obidient movement (political awakening), and he would have faded into oblivion
3. In summary he took the best risk, and that has made him gain wide recognition, as a principled man. His fame will last longer than PDP.

BluntTheApostle:
You are lost in your own argument. Moreover, Tinubu is not one to run away from a fight, even if it is next to impossible to win. Unlike Obi and Atiku.



Also, in case you have forgotten your own argument, we are talking about the election contested by APC, LP, NNPP, and PDP.




Who is the strongest politician of the three, excluding Kwankwaso?



The strongest was Bola Ahmed Tinubu who faced the most challenges. He had his work cut out for him contesting under APC.




Obi had the easiest opportunities, but he messed it up with his lack of depth of character. His mob of Obidients put the final nail in his coffin with their unguided utterances and fanatical support which can be likened to terrorism.

LikeAking:
If Peter was a patient soul like Tinubu. PDP would have won this 2023 election...

If you combine Atiku and Peter Obi's votes it supercedes Tinubus vote.

Victory was surly in the hands of PDP, but Peter Obi ruined it..

By now PO, would have been the one jubilating not Tinubu.

Peter will leave to regret is carless 2023 polictical decision..

It's better to be a VP, than having nothing.. He can still contest for the highest office later in life. The most important mission for him to put this one in the bag first.



I rest my case.

emmzo:
He won in LP. The election was rigged and would have still been rigged if He was in PDP. Know this and know peace.


Who were the 8 million people that voted Tinubu?? I stay in the north and trust me they voted PDP and not APC. We don't know where He got the 8 million votes from.