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Zelensky at odds with top general

Commander Zaluzhny called for a withdrawal from a key city, but the president has refused, the newspaper reported.

An internal conflict is underway between Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky and General Valery Zaluzhny, commander-in-chief of the armed forces, according to government sources cited by Bild on Monday. Kiev insiders told the German tabloid that the military commander called for a withdrawal from a key Donbass city weeks ago.

Zaluzhny advised the president to abandon Artyomovsk, known as Bakhmut in Ukraine, rather than keep defending it as Russian troops threatened to take control of the city, the newspaper reported. However the Ukrainian leader declared the city a fortress, and refused to pull troops back.

Russian forces have made notable advances in the fight for Artyomovsk this year. Yevgeny Prigozhin, the head of the private military company Wagner Group, claimed last Friday that it was “de-facto completely surrounded,” with only one road available for possible evacuation.

According to US media, Washington has been urging Zelensky to pull out of Artyomovsk and focus on preparing a major counteroffensive for the spring using Western-supplied weapons, but the Ukrainian president fears a morale hit that such a move would cause.

The city is part of a 70km Ukrainian defense line created since Kiev initiated the fighting in Donbass in 2014. US officials have assessed that its loss to Russia would not affect the strategic situation.

Bild sources claimed that Ukrainian troops on the ground in Artyomovsk “do not understand why the city is being held” and believe they should have withdrawn a long time ago. Zelensky recently stated that Ukrainian forces would defend it as long as it “remains reasonable” to do so.

The German tabloid also noted that Zaluzhny’s popularity for leading the military campaign against Russia makes him a viable challenger to Zelensky in a potential presidential run. The general has not publicly announced any ambition to run for office, but rumors have been circulating in Ukraine for months regarding Zelensky’s concerns over possible competition.

https://www.rt.com/russia/572519-zelensky-zaluzhny-artyomovsk-defense/

Zelensky Clings to Artemovsk to Show Hefty Western Military Aid ‘Not in Vain,’ Russian Analyst Says


Despite huge losses in terms of men and materiel in Artemovsk, Ukrainian forces are desperately trying to hold onto the town because Kiev apparently wants to justify incessant and hefty deliveries of Western military aid to Ukraine, military expert and political analyst Ivan Konovalov told Sputnik.

A German newspaper recently reported that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny have "fundamentally different views" on the situation in the town of Artemovsk, known in Ukraine by its pre-Soviet name Bakhmut.
While Zaluzhny insists on the retreat of Ukrainian forces from Artemovsk "for tactical reasons", Kiev authorities adhere to the stance that it’s necessary to hold on to the town, according to the newspaper.

"[...] The Ukrainian leadership, and especially Mr. Zelensky, who needs to prove to the West that the Ukrainian forces can still surprise and demonstrate that Western military aid is not in vain," cannot but cling to Artemovsk, Konovalov said.

When asked why Ukrainian troops continue to hold on to the town despite their huge losses there, the Russian military expert said that "Mr. Zelensky does not care about the Armed Forces of Ukraine’s casualties." (I don't care too..Russia should wipe out all of them).

"His task is to show to his [Western] curators that this or that settlement is still under Ukrainian forces’ control. And at what cost it takes place is all the same to him. He is only interested in one thing: his image in front of Western curators and arms suppliers, because it is related to how long he will be at the helm of Ukraine," Konovalov pointed out.

He added that "on the other hand, Zaluzhny knows full well that from a strategic point of view," the possible fall of Artemovsk "can result in a catastrophe that will shake the entire central frontline.” Konovalov suggested that Kiev’s main problem in Artemovsk is that “a political necessity has clashed with military expediency.”


According to the expert, “the situation [in the town] is obvious and the fall of Artemovsk is a foregone conclusion."
The remarks followed the Wagner private military group announcing last week that they had surrounded Artemovsk, located in Donbass, following months of fighting that has taken a heavy toll on Kiev's forces, developments that come amid Russia's ongoing special military operation in Ukraine.

https://sputniknews.com/20230306/zelensky-clings-to-artemovsk-to-show-hefty-western-military-aid-not-in-vain-russian-analyst-says-1108084539.html

Omo! 😂

That's what happens when you vote an actor as president

They know Russia can not be underestimated when it comes to science and Technology especially militarily. But they will still sell Russia as weak with inferior tech in the west knowing too well many people in the west either don't like reading, know history or reasoning for themselves. 🤦‍♂️

Zelensky is making a grave mistake that'll make his troops in bakhmut to either get captured like in Mariupol or get killed.

Zelensky knows nothing about military hence he's pushing for the defense of bakhmut when it is obvious that the Russians will capture this city no matter how long it takes.

People were throwing all sorts of insult when the general Surovikin withdrew his troops from the other side of the Dnieper river, but in the military perspective it is obviously undefendable because of the natural obstacle to logistics and reinforcement.

Instead of using military tactics in the battlefield zelensky is using politics

Kingsnairaland:
They know Russia can not be underestimated when it comes to science and Technology especially militarily. But they will still sell Russia as weak with inferior tech in the west knowing too well many people in the west either don't like reading, know history or reasoning for themselves. 🤦‍♂️

most Americans can't even list 3 countries in Africa, they live in illusion and Hollywood fantasy

Masterviolence:
Zelensky is making a grave mistake that'll make his troops in bakhmut to either get captured like in Mariupol or get killed.

Zelensky knows nothing about military hence he's pushing for the defense of bakhmut when it is obvious that the Russians will capture this city no matter how long it takes.

People were throwing all sorts of insult when the general Surovikin withdrew his troops from the other side of the Dnieper river, when in the military perspective it is obviously undefended because of the natural obstacle to logistics and reinforcement.

Instead of using military tactics in the battlefield zelensky is using politics

I particularly like your last sentence

"Instead of using military tactics in the battlefield zelensky is using politics"

fydence:
I particularly like your last sentence

"Instead of using military tactics in the battlefield zelensky is using politics"

Once a clown always a clown. Elensky has destroyed Ukraine as we know it.

Stalligard 😀😀😀😀, do you know we're Stalligard is located??
Putin kids and there stupid propaganda..


Noting like Stalligard in your rubbish write up

when it gets so HARD SugarCoating a TRUTH

obedience4:
Stalligard 😀😀😀😀, do you know we're Stalligard is located??
Putin kids and there stupid propaganda..


Noting like Stalligard in your rubbish write up

Everyone else besides you who submitted replies has not business in this foreign politics section because they don’t even know that (1)Stalingrad isn’t a city and hasn’t been one in years and (2) the city formerly known as Stalingrad is LOCATED IN RUSSIA. How would Zelensky have taken and lost a city IN RUSSIA when the war is in UKRAINE?
These people aren’t worth debating politics and war with.

mike8804:
most Americans can't even list 3 countries in Africa, they live in illusion and Hollywood fantasy

And Nigerians are in here cheering because one propagandist lied and said Zelensky lost a city that hasn’t existed in years and is located in Russia.

Kingsnairaland:
They know Russia can not be underestimated when it comes to science and Technology especially militarily. But they will still sell Russia as weak with inferior tech in the west knowing too well many people in the west either don't like reading, know history or reasoning for themselves. 🤦‍♂️

You’re talking about yourself. You don’t read, know history, and definitely can’t reason because if you did, you would’ve seen the word Stalingrad in the title about a 2023 event and knew this was a ridiculous lie.

1stGenAmerican:
Everyone else besides you who submitted replies has not business in this foreign politics section because they don’t even know that (1)Stalingrad isn’t a city and hasn’t been one in years and (2) the city formerly known as Stalingrad is LOCATED IN RUSSIA. How would Zelensky have taken and lost a city IN RUSSIA when the war is in UKRAINE?
These people aren’t worth debating politics and war with.

The fact that you had to say all these without looking at the clearer picture the op is painting is ludicrous.
Instead of being a nit-picker, understand the the op is likening the battle of bakhmut to that of Stalingrad because it is one of the most bloodiest and fierce battle so far in this war. I know it is outrageous to compare that yet, more like comparing a Toyota Corolla to a Bugatti Chiron, but yes, the op is not preposterous.
Also I know Stalingrad was renamed Volgograd in the 1960s.

I'm sorry for offending the intelligence of a few minority of people in the Nairaland audience by overestimating their mental capacity.
I deeply regret this erroneous action. I'm remorseful and I'll do my best to make amends (although I was already covered by someone with a good knowledge of history, nevertheless.....look down).








Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Artyomovsk (a.k.a Ukrainian Stalingrad).
And it's Stalingrad not Stalligard (that spelling made me dizzy)

BidenDTrounce:
I'm sorry for offending the intelligence of a few minority of people in the Nairaland audience by overestimating their mental capacity.
I deeply regret this erroneous action. I'm remorseful and I'll do my best to make amends (although I was already covered by someone with a good knowledge of history, nevertheless.....look down).








Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Artyomovsk (a.k.a Ukrainian Stalingrad).
And it's Stalingrad not Stalligard (that spelling made me dizzy)

My reputation is hurt

1stGenAmerican:
Everyone else besides you who submitted replies has not business in this foreign politics section because they don’t even know that (1)Stalingrad isn’t a city and hasn’t been one in years and (2) the city formerly known as Stalingrad is LOCATED IN RUSSIA. How would Zelensky have taken and lost a city IN RUSSIA when the war is in UKRAINE?
These people aren’t worth debating politics and war with.

Lol, this people keeps writing loads of rubbish everyday

Masterviolence:
The fact that you had to say all these without looking at the clearer picture the op is painting is ludicrous.
Instead of being a nit-picker, understand the the op is likening the battle of bakhmut to that of Stalingrad because it is one of the most bloodiest and fierce battle so far in this war. I know it is outrageous to compare that yet, more like comparing a Toyota Corolla to a Bugatti Chiron, but yes, the op is not preposterous.
Also I know Stalingrad was renamed Volgograd in the 1960s.

Look at this one trying his best to cover an op failure
How will one just reading an heading of a post know that the op was comparing a ww2 battle to a present battle.

A careful look at the stupid article,you won't find any reference to the battle of Stalligard nor will you find were the op was trying to compare the war in bakhmut to the one in ww2.

Also the Ukrainian were also part of the old Soviet Union and also fought the battle of Stalligard
So when I see you Putin punks celebrating Stalligard as if other people apart from present day ethic Russians fought the war.


S

I regret my actions smart one.
I've rectified my mistake..please forgive me








Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Artyomovsk (a.k.a Ukrainian Stalingrad).
And it's Stalingrad not Stalligard (that spelling made me dizzy)

BidenDTrounce:
My reputation is hurt

Am here holding a cup of coffee, trying hard to fathom the "reputation" you are talking about.

Can someone lose what he doesn't have

Do I have to explain this too?
These people that I offended are just looking for something to say
I'm monumentally sorry
Chai!!

obedience4:
Am here holding a cup of coffee, trying hard to fathom the "reputation" you are talking about.

Can someone lose what he doesn't have

I'm so sad.

BidenDTrounce:
I regret my actions smart one.
I've rectified my mistake..please forgive me








Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Artyomovsk (a.k.a Ukrainian Stalingrad).
And it's Stalingrad not Stalligard (that spelling made me dizzy)

There is no forgiveness for a supporter of Putin 😀😁😁😂



Well who am I not to forgive you

Go and sin no more 😀😁

obedience4:
There is no forgiveness for a supporter of Putin 😀😁😁😂



Well who am I not to forgive you

Go and sin no more 😀😁

Thank you sir, it means a lot to me.

I acknowledge my mistake..once again I'm monumentally sorry (the few minority that was offended.. it wasn't intentional)

I fixed it.
I stated that Artyomovsk = Ukraine's Stalingrad on this thread.
https://www.nairaland.com/7599976/over-90000-ukrainian-militants-killed

If you have any other advise please bring it to my attention.
Viva Russia.