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Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by BidenDTrounce: 2:31am On Mar 07, 2023
obedience4:


Look at this one trying his best to cover an op failure
How will one just reading an heading of a post know that the op was comparing a ww2 battle to a present battle.

A careful look at the stupid article,you won't find any reference to the battle of Stalligard nor will you find were the op was trying to compare the war in bakhmut to the one in ww2.

Also the Ukrainian were also part of the old Soviet Union and also fought the battle of Stalligard
So when I see you Putin punks celebrating Stalligard as if other people apart from present day ethic Russians fought the war.


S

For the sake of clarity, Artyomovsk= Ukraine's Stalingrad.

Masterviolence:

The fact that you had to say all these without looking at the clearer picture the op is painting is ludicrous.
Instead of being a nit-picker, understand the the op is likening the battle of bakhmut to that of Stalingrad because it is one of the most bloodiest and fierce battle so far in this war. I know it is outrageous to compare that yet, more like comparing a Toyota Corolla to a Bugatti Chiron, but yes, the op is not preposterous.
Also I know Stalingrad was renamed Volgograd in the 1960s.


BidenDTrounce:
Zelensky at odds with top general

Commander Zaluzhny called for a withdrawal from a key city, but the president has refused, the newspaper reported.

An internal conflict is underway between Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky and General Valery Zaluzhny, commander-in-chief of the armed forces, according to government sources cited by Bild on Monday. Kiev insiders told the German tabloid that the military commander called for a withdrawal from a key Donbass city weeks ago.

Zaluzhny advised the president to abandon Artyomovsk, known as Bakhmut in Ukraine, rather than keep defending it as Russian troops threatened to take control of the city, the newspaper reported. However the Ukrainian leader declared the city a fortress, and refused to pull troops back.

Russian forces have made notable advances in the fight for Artyomovsk this year. Yevgeny Prigozhin, the head of the private military company Wagner Group, claimed last Friday that it was “de-facto completely surrounded,” with only one road available for possible evacuation.

According to US media, Washington has been urging Zelensky to pull out of Artyomovsk and focus on preparing a major counteroffensive for the spring using Western-supplied weapons, but the Ukrainian president fears a morale hit that such a move would cause.

The city is part of a 70km Ukrainian defense line created since Kiev initiated the fighting in Donbass in 2014. US officials have assessed that its loss to Russia would not affect the strategic situation.

Bild sources claimed that Ukrainian troops on the ground in Artyomovsk “do not understand why the city is being held” and believe they should have withdrawn a long time ago. Zelensky recently stated that Ukrainian forces would defend it as long as it “remains reasonable” to do so.

The German tabloid also noted that Zaluzhny’s popularity for leading the military campaign against Russia makes him a viable challenger to Zelensky in a potential presidential run. The general has not publicly announced any ambition to run for office, but rumors have been circulating in Ukraine for months regarding Zelensky’s concerns over possible competition.
grin grin
https://www.rt.com/russia/572519-zelensky-zaluzhny-artyomovsk-defense/

Re: Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by BidenDTrounce: 2:32am On Mar 07, 2023
BidenDTrounce:
Zelensky Clings to Artemovsk to Show Hefty Western Military Aid ‘Not in Vain,’ Russian Analyst Says


Despite huge losses in terms of men and materiel in Artemovsk, Ukrainian forces are desperately trying to hold onto the town because Kiev apparently wants to justify incessant and hefty deliveries of Western military aid to Ukraine, military expert and political analyst Ivan Konovalov told Sputnik.

A German newspaper recently reported that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny have "fundamentally different views" on the situation in the town of Artemovsk, known in Ukraine by its pre-Soviet name Bakhmut.
While Zaluzhny insists on the retreat of Ukrainian forces from Artemovsk "for tactical reasons", Kiev authorities adhere to the stance that it’s necessary to hold on to the town, according to the newspaper.

"[...] The Ukrainian leadership, and especially Mr. Zelensky, who needs to prove to the West that the Ukrainian forces can still surprise and demonstrate that Western military aid is not in vain," cannot but cling to Artemovsk, Konovalov said.

When asked why Ukrainian troops continue to hold on to the town despite their huge losses there, the Russian military expert said that "Mr. Zelensky does not care about the Armed Forces of Ukraine’s casualties." grin grin (I don't care too..Russia should wipe out all of them).

"His task is to show to his [Western] curators that this or that settlement is still under Ukrainian forces’ control. And at what cost it takes place is all the same to him. He is only interested in one thing: his image in front of Western curators and arms suppliers, because it is related to how long he will be at the helm of Ukraine," Konovalov pointed out.

He added that "on the other hand, Zaluzhny knows full well that from a strategic point of view," the possible fall of Artemovsk "can result in a catastrophe that will shake the entire central frontline.” Konovalov suggested that Kiev’s main problem in Artemovsk is that “a political necessity has clashed with military expediency.”


According to the expert, “the situation [in the town] is obvious and the fall of Artemovsk is a foregone conclusion."
The remarks followed the Wagner private military group announcing last week that they had surrounded Artemovsk, located in Donbass, following months of fighting that has taken a heavy toll on Kiev's forces, developments that come amid Russia's ongoing special military operation in Ukraine.

https://sputniknews.com/20230306/zelensky-clings-to-artemovsk-to-show-hefty-western-military-aid-not-in-vain-russian-analyst-says-1108084539.html

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Re: Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by chukwuibuipob: 2:39am On Mar 07, 2023
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Re: Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by BidenDTrounce: 2:44am On Mar 07, 2023

Re: Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by BidenDTrounce: 2:57am On Mar 07, 2023
I spotted an Ipob moniker.
Possibly a miscreant.

BidenDTrounce:
We need a formal test of popularity of the Biafran question amongst igbos. IPOB militant movement is not the solution. It's a terror/criminal movement.

Do majority of Igbos want to secede or is the conception of seccession just propagated by a few igbo mischief makers?

I'm pro Russia, I support the right to self determination of the Ukrainian people of Russian descent in the Donbass Republics (formerly part of Ukraine) so it'll be hypocritical of me to apply a different language towards the igbos in Nigeria.
Crimea had a referendum and there was the Minsk agreement (read about it if you don't know it). Russia's Special Military Operation (which is warranted) in Ukraine began due to failures to implement the Minsk agreement.
Igbos miscreants can't just wake up and start causing trouble without justifiable reasons.

First, form a political party then elect your members to gubernatorial positions in your territory. Afterwards, let these governors (after selecting a chairman amongst themselves) organize a referendum and let's know what the Igbos want. It's your right..you can decide to stay in Nigeria and you can decide otherwise.

If secession receives overwhelming support (through the referendum) then you should exploit every means to secede. The Nigerian government and the international community must listen to you or we can throw the UN away since it's clear that it's an impotent organization and it's just like Nigerian laws (they exist in theory but not in practice).
At that time, if you decide that violence is the key (if Nigeria/UN fails to yield to your legitimate demand) you're actually justified. Engage in violence if you know you're prepared and you can handle it or else, it'll just be a repetition of the civil war (you know how that ended).

If you miss all these steps and jump straight to violence, you're a trouble makers and you should be shot on sight.
Re: Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by BidenDTrounce: 3:04am On Mar 07, 2023
More for Ipob miscreants.


BidenDTrounce:
After thier initial braggadocious behaviour and bravado, they've finally eaten the humble pie 😂
The polls by so called Western 'experts' was rubbished.

They made deafening noise on the internet, they controlled the information space and they were dealt a heavy blow.
At least, Peter Obi will be remembered as Nigeria's online President.
The IPOB miscreants have gone back to thier Biafra or death mantra but we will deal with them ruthlessly and mercilessly😂

Zelensky's partner in terrorism (Nnamdi Kanu, IPOB secessionist leader) claims to be a Jew, he claims the Igbo people are Jews but.... if he's(Kanu) a Jew and Zelensky is also a Jew, then why does Kanu appear to believe in the right of self determination and Zelensky doesn't?

I hope these losers find accommodation in Ghana, Cameroon or South Africa where they can live out thier lives in exile.
Whether Zelensky/Kanu is an ethnic jew or religious jew..it's irrelevant.

What I do know for a fact is that the Banderite (Zelensky) in Kiev espouses the Nazi ideology of eradicating Russian culture and he murdered Russian speaking Ukrainians.
Russophobia is Nazism and Zelensky is a Nazi in that regard.
P.S: (Bandera was an Ukrainian that colluded with the Nazis to terrorize his fellow Ukrainians)


From the results of this election, the mood of the igbos are clear.
They voted along tribalistic/ethnic lines and I do not blame them.
They feel marginalized and disconnected from Nigeria so they want to pacify themselves with having one of thier sons at the helm.

From every indication, if a referendum on breaking away from Nigeria was held today, the result is crystal clear, they do not want to be part of corporate entity called Nigeria.

Simon Ekpa (of igbo extraction) was arrested for attempts to stimulate an Igbo election boycott by bullying the Igbos to sit at home (not participate in the election).
Other igbos disagreed with him as they saw that this would diminish Peter Obi's chances at the presidency.
Igbos like Simon Ekpa do not care about Oby Ezekwesili
(Oby is a political appointee of Zelensky for cosmetic purposes because some similarities could be drawn between the Igbos who do not want to be part of Nigeria and the people of the Donbass who do not want to be part of Nazi Ukraine).

This election is related to Ukraine and that's why he appointed her (I'll illustrate...it's to offer them the oppurtunity to use that type of Zelensky is a jew stupid argument that they were peddling to cause a distraction and mislead igbos).

The right to self determination of the Igbos should be respected.
After all, there's a rule for that.
Why is that those that were part of drafting these international laws the the same people to violate and bend it the most? (I'm talking about the West).


My interest (Africa's interst) is aligned with Russia(so even if they were lying, we would still support them but they're actually not lying. Thier position is legitimate and justifiable, they have to protect thier national interest, they have to protect Russia against Russophobia/Nazism, they have to make sure Russia is not subjugated).

Africa's interest is aligned with Russia. We're tired of your neocolonialism, we're tired of your terrorism, we see through you, we're tired of your lies, we're tired of rebranded slavery, we're tired of the economic disparity, we're tired of hegemony. (This was directed at the West)

Personally, I wish they'll(Russia) deal with you guys with a ruthless hand but they've been very gentle...they've not even done 0.0001% of the atrocities the West commits.

And when they say Russia has a Nazi problem(people who have a problem with jews), Nazism is outlawed in Russia but it's Ukraine that votes to support the glorification of Nazism. It speaks volumes. The presence of Nazism in Ukraine is self evident.
Re: Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by Nobody: 3:55am On Mar 07, 2023
All I see is great deviation from the scheme of things. Wake up!!!
Re: Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by BidenDTrounce: 3:56am On Mar 07, 2023

Re: Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by BidenDTrounce: 3:58am On Mar 07, 2023
BidenDTrounce:
https://twitter.com/thesiriusreport/status/1632742493631438848?cxt=HHwWgICz6bap1agtAAAA

Sanction India NOW!!!! grin
The EU stands with the Nazis in Ukraine!!
The West has successfully isolated Russia.
Sanction India now... trading with Russia is UNACCEPTABLE!! grin

Re: Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by BidenDTrounce: 4:05am On Mar 07, 2023
Eazzii:
All I see is great deviation from the scheme of things.
Wake up!!!
Yes, I saw it too and there are solid preparations for that... unfortunately, it coincides with Ukraine's loss of Stalingrad.
Re: Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by BidenDTrounce: 1:17pm On Mar 07, 2023
BidenDTrounce:

Yes, I saw it too and there are solid preparations for that... unfortunately, it coincides with Ukraine's loss of Stalingrad.
unfortunately for Ukraine
Re: Over 90000 Ukrainian Militants Killed As Zelensky Loses Stalingrad by BidenDTrounced: 6:14pm On May 20, 2023
Key Donbass city captured

The battle against Ukrainian forces for Artyomovsk has gone on since last year

The key Donbass city of Artyomovsk, known as Bakhmut in Ukraine, has been fully liberated by the Russian forces, Evgeny Prigozhin, the head of the Wagner private military company has announced.

“Today at noon, Bakhmut was fully captured,” Prigozhin said in a video address published on Saturday.

The last part of an area of high-rise buildings where the Ukrainians were holed up is now under the control of Russian forces, he stated.

The Wagner Group will remain in Artyomovsk until Thursday, Prigozhin said, adding that during this period, fortifications will be created across the city.

Control will then be passed on to the Russian Defense Ministry, and Wagner Group servicemen will go on leave to rest and regroup following months of intense fighting.

According to Prigozhin, the PMC’s operation in the city, which he called ‘the Bakhmut meat-grinder’, had gone on for 224 days. “We’ve taken the whole city – every building – so that nobody could say that we didn’t capture some small part of it,” he said.


Kiev has denied Prigozhin’s claims that Artyomovsk has been captured. Ukrainian military spokesman Sergey Cherevaty told Reuters: “This is not true. Our units are fighting in Bakhmut.”

The Wagner chief also personally addressed Ukraine’s president, Vladimir Zelensky, saying, “without sarcasm” that the Ukrainian troops “fought bravely, fought well” defending Artyomovsk.

“Today, when you see [US President Joe] Biden, kiss him on the top of his head and tell him that I said ‘hi,’” he said.

Earlier on Saturday, Zelensky arrived at the G7 summit in Hiroshima, Japan, where he is expected to hold talks with Biden.

https://www.rt.com/russia/576629-key-donbass-city-captured-wagner

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