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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by drlateef: 4:11pm On Mar 07, 2023
Legendguy:
Just like Gbadebo Rhodes Vivour that contesting for governor of Lagos, Funsho Doherty also running for governor of Lagos bears an English surname.
Former lagos governorship candidate, Funsho Williams bears an English surname, compared to typical yorubas from south west hinterlands that bears their native surname.
Is there a reason for true lagosians to bear foreign surnames while making their first name yoruba name?




Go and read our history. Majority of true lagosians bear yoruba or muslim names. The english names you see are descendants of slaves that returned from Freetown and America after slave trade was abolished. They had adopted English names before coming to settle in Lagos, being the port city.

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by PoliteActivist: 4:13pm On Mar 07, 2023
a4cube:
If this true why is Crowther his surname?

Both Idiko1 and laiperi are wrong.
All it took was ONE small Google search. He was fully a slave but not Nupe. He was Egba. See below

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by AyakaDunukofia: 4:13pm On Mar 07, 2023
renderme:

Shut up and say what U know O. There was no time binis ever settled in Lagos island (Eko). The indigenes of Lagos island were ALWAYS aworis. The Benin monarchy had a war camp on Lagos island wt soldiers, they didn't have any indigenes there at all.

I don't join issues with minions. The history of Lagos is way above your comprehension.

Direct your anger, rudeness and horrible upbringing to Akiolu the Oba of Lagos.
[img] https://guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/lagos-oba-traces-origin-to-benin/ [/img]
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by drlateef: 4:14pm On Mar 07, 2023
VeryWickedGoat:
This is why we say Lagos is a no-man's land because the true Lagosians are not even pure Nigerians.

Lagosians are slaves that returned or escaped from Brazil, Jamaica, Benin, Togo, Liberia & co. Some of these slaves are even Igbo, Calabar, Benin, Ijaw slaves that were transported via Badagry. Their names are mostly Portuguese or English like Pedro, Rhodes, Williams, Campos, Bucknor & co.



Tinubu, Obanikoro, Sanwo-Olu and co are typical Osogbo names!!




Another Chinedu has started yarning shit. The slave descendants are not many. My family has no slave ancestors and we bear yoruba name.

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by VeryWickedGoat: 4:33pm On Mar 07, 2023
drlateef:





Another Chinedu has started yarning shit. The slave descendants are not many. My family has no slave ancestors and we bear yoruba name.

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by PoliteActivist: 5:16pm On Mar 07, 2023
renderme:

Shut up and say what U know O. There was no time binis ever settled in Lagos island (Eko). The indigenes of Lagos island were ALWAYS aworis. The Benin monarchy had a war camp on Lagos island wt soldiers, they didn't have any indigenes there at all.
a4cube Idiko1 laiperi

Turns out you are actually wrong. See below

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by renderme: 5:18pm On Mar 07, 2023
AyakaDunukofia:


I don't join issues with minions. The history of Lagos is way above your comprehension.

Direct your anger, rudeness and horrible upbringing to Akiolu the Oba of Lagos.
[img] https://guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/lagos-oba-traces-origin-to-benin/ [/img]

PoliteActivist:


Turns out you are actually wrong. See below
And oba of Lagos has said he never said dt. Manipulative propagandists. One would think they even like this oba akiolu.

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Vischy: 5:31pm On Mar 07, 2023
baralatie:
You don't even know the true families of lagos.so make I leave you for ya ignorance

Who are the true families of lagos??
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by baralatie(m): 5:38pm On Mar 07, 2023
Vischy:


Who are the true families of lagos??
Them too many to mention.
Kosoko
Oyekan
Oshodi
Tinubu
Egun families.
Omo na for palace you go see names


Them just too many then you will mention the families at oyigbo, .
Omo encyclopedia go finish

Then you will now come to the colonial families that now were born in Lagos and this includes brazilian family like de Santos,de marquis(if I am correct in their spelling)

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by 2mch(m): 5:42pm On Mar 07, 2023
Most of them use their Grand Father’s new English names as surname on conversion to Christianity or names the British called them based on occupation.

Others are returneees. Not all with English names are Slave Returnees.

Lagos Island, mainland Ikoyi and VI is Awori, plus some borders close to Ogun.

Lekki and Ikorodu is Ijebu

Egun people are found close to the border of Badagry and border of Ogun state where Benin Republic spill over. Most of them walked in or were cut off during independence.

Benin don’t own any inch of Lagos. There was a historical relationship between the royalty of Yoruba and Benin so they were allowed space to run their own business as well from Lagos and they set up their own order to report back to their Oba. They ended up marrying into most of the influential royal Awori families which gave that crown legitimacy because Awori Royal daughter’s children can inherit a throne of her fathers.

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Vischy: 5:44pm On Mar 07, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Turns out you are actually wrong. See below

Wow, ooduwa(oduduwa) was a benin prince and first ruler of ile Ife and prince ado from benin kingdom was the first oba of lagos.
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by PoliteActivist: 5:45pm On Mar 07, 2023
renderme:



And oba of Lagos has said he never said dt. Manipulative propagandists. One would think they even like this oba akiolu.

Why being deceptive. Why not post the article or link to it?? You are implying he denied his EXACT words as printed verbatim by the reputable Guardian newspaper, which is a lie.
Of course he never said Benin owned Lagos. You can go read what he said yourself.
Meanwhile here's the article you screenshot only the heading, but craftily neither linked nor posted!

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/252183-i-never-said-benin-owned-lagos-oba-akiolu.html

Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Nobody: 6:06pm On Mar 07, 2023
PoliteActivist:
You are the only one who doesn't know that when slave trade ended, there were slave ships caught through the years. Slaves on those ships were re-settled in coastal big cities like Lagos. Most of the slaves now bore their masters' surnames

Same applies to Rivers/Cross River axis.
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by PoliteActivist: 6:12pm On Mar 07, 2023
elnegrodeafriqu:


Same applies to Rivers/Cross River axis.

Yep. All the funny foreign last names you see didn't just magically appear!
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by AyakaDunukofia: 6:48pm On Mar 07, 2023
renderme:



And oba of Lagos has said he never said dt. Manipulative propagandists. One would think they even like this oba akiolu.

For God's sake, what is important about liking or disliking Akiolu?
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by ejimatic: 6:51pm On Mar 07, 2023
Legendguy:
Just like Gbadebo Rhodes Vivour that contesting for governor of Lagos, Funsho Doherty also running for governor of Lagos bears an English surname.
Former lagos governorship candidate, Funsho Williams bears an English surname, compared to typical yorubas from south west hinterlands that bears their native surname.
Is there a reason for true lagosians to bear foreign surnames while making their first name yoruba name?

. Their forefathers were colonised in the past. That is why we names like Daniels Wellington Rhodes Thomas etc in Lagos.
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by 0monnak0da: 7:09pm On Mar 07, 2023
That Assumption is wrong
Who are you to determine who is a true Lagosian
There are five Divisions in Lagos state
Ikorodu = Ijebu
Epe = Ijebu
Badagry = Ogu or Egun
Ikeja = Awori and . The
Lagos==Awori

There are several Families that settled in Lagos Island of Diverse origins e.g. Sierra Leone returnee slaves and returning slaves from elsewhere e.g Brazil,Liberia etc, Some Nupe and some Fulani
Still on Lagos Island Autochthons have names like Kosoko,Dosunmu,Adele,Akitoye,Eshinlokun,Oyekan,Akiolu to name a few
Returnee slaves hear names like Randle, Da Silva,Suarez,Williams,Gonzalez ,Dohertyetc
None of them can become Oba Of Lagos
Oshodi is another settler family of Nupe origin

Now Lagos state was created in 1967 and Epe,Ikorodu,Ikeja,Badagry all part of the Western Region were added to Lagos Division

Lagos Division included Ikoyi,Victoria Island ,territory of Oniru all with ruling families separate and distinct from returnees
Epe and Ikorodu are Ijebu territory and has no returnee population

So this stupid idea about who is a real Lagosian is mischief
We know who can become Oba and who cannot
Ti a ba ri arawa a mo arawa

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Nobody: 7:28pm On Mar 07, 2023
Idiko1:


They were returnees (freed Slaves) whom British colonialists brought from Sierra Leone to Lagos to assist in the administration of Lagos as a Colony. It is based on this circumstance that Yoruba erroneously claimed to be more educated than any tribe in Nigeria. Actually, Yoruba are the least educated based on tribal nativity.

Anything that helps you sleep well at night.
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Nobody: 7:30pm On Mar 07, 2023
Idiko1:


Arrant nonsense!!! He was a slave boy from Nupe ethnicity. He was already sold into slavery and parked into a ship and rescued on the high sea by anti-slavery unit of British Navy.

He was actually Sudanese. He was from Iseyin, a northwestern Sudanese town.

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by ShadowCracker(m): 7:30pm On Mar 07, 2023
0monnak0da:
That Assumption is wrong
Who are you to determine who is a true Lagosian
There are five Divisions in Lagos state
Ikorodu = Ijebu
Epe = Ijebu
Badagry = Ogu or Egun
Ikeja = Awori and . The
Lagos==Awori

There are several Families that settled in Lagos Island of Diverse origins e.g. Sierra Leone returnee slaves and returning slaves from elsewhere e.g Brazil,Liberia etc, Some Nupe and some Fulani
Still on Lagos Island Autochthons have names like Kosoko,Dosunmu,Adele,Akitoye,Eshinlokun,Oyekan,Akiolu to name a few
Returnee slaves hear names like Randle, Da Silva,Suarez,Williams,Gonzalez ,Dohertyetc
None of them can become Oba Of Lagos
Oshodi is another settler family of Nupe origin

Now Lagos state was created in 1967 and Epe,Ikorodu,Ikeja,Badagry all part of the Western Region were added to Lagos Division

Lagos Division included Ikoyi,Victoria Island ,territory of Oniru all with ruling families separate and distinct from returnees
Epe and Ikorodu are Ijebu territory and has no returnee population

So this stupid idea about who is a real Lagosian is mischief
We know who can become Oba and who cannot
Ti a ba ri arawa a mo arawa
I am from Epe, even in Epe there is discrimination of Epe Eko & Epe Ijebu.
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by 0monnak0da: 7:35pm On Mar 07, 2023
ShadowCracker:

I am from Epe, even in Epe there is discrimination of Epe Eko & Epe Ijebu.
Emeka

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by ShadowCracker(m): 7:36pm On Mar 07, 2023
0monnak0da:
Emeka
Lol who be Emeka.
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Tulsaguy: 7:38pm On Mar 07, 2023
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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by 0monnak0da: 7:39pm On Mar 07, 2023
ShadowCracker:

Lol who be Emeka.
We know ourselves nah
No dey form nonsense
What does se aworawo mean?
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by 0monnak0da: 7:44pm On Mar 07, 2023
ShadowCracker:

Lol who be Emeka.
How far with Google?
Wetin be se aworawo??
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by ShadowCracker(m): 7:45pm On Mar 07, 2023
0monnak0da:
We know ourselves nah
No dey form nonsense
What does se aworawo mean?
Awa o kin se alawo ni idile wa, my family are Muslims.

Are you from Epe, am very sure if I mention my grandfather name you will know, he was very popular when he was alive.
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by ShadowCracker(m): 7:46pm On Mar 07, 2023
0monnak0da:

How far with Google?
Wetin be se aworawo??
Lol nah everybody be Igbo too una. cheesy cheesy

Se aworawo, like when we see ourselves we know ourselves.
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by 0monnak0da: 7:47pm On Mar 07, 2023
ShadowCracker:

Lol nah everybody be Igbo too una. cheesy cheesy


Wetin be

se aworawo
Simple question
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Gbajure(m): 7:47pm On Mar 07, 2023
Stop confusing Lagos Island Isale Eko or Eko with Lagos State. Get educated pls
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Biodun556(m): 7:48pm On Mar 07, 2023
Legendguy:
Just like Gbadebo Rhodes Vivour that contesting for governor of Lagos, Funsho Doherty also running for governor of Lagos bears an English surname.
Former lagos governorship candidate, Funsho Williams bears an English surname, compared to typical yorubas from south west hinterlands that bears their native surname.
Is there a reason for true lagosians to bear foreign surnames while making their first name yoruba name?


Those are slave returnees. Williams, savage, Pedro, Salvador and many more
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by KGD10: 7:49pm On Mar 07, 2023
drlateef:




Go and read our history. Majority of true lagosians bear yoruba or muslim names. The english names you see are descendants of slaves that returned from Freetown and America after slave trade was abolished. They had adopted English names before coming to settle in Lagos, being the port city.

Yoruba should take pride in their culture and stop bearing English or Arabic name!

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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by 2mch(m): 7:50pm On Mar 07, 2023
ShadowCracker:

I am from Epe, even in Epe there is discrimination of Epe Eko & Epe Ijebu.
That’s right. Eko Epe fled with Kosoko from Lagos Island during the wars. A lot did not come back and stayed in Epe in fear.

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