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YorubaRonuuu:
real omo alé keep repeating words like poem... They've actually smoke off your brain sorry to say

Good thing you won't be insulting Afenifere and your Dad again.

Foolish kid.

At least we can boldly say that not all groups are cowards and chameleons.

Kudos to Afenifere and others like them.

Delicious22:
Good thing you won't be insulting Afenifere and your Dad again.

Foolish kid.

people like you is one reason the country is still living in past, you're just as local as I can't just imagine... I hope your dad realize you're such a disgrace

YorubaRonuuu:
people like you is one reason the country is still living in past, you're just as local as I can't just imagine... I hope your dad realize you're such a disgrace

My work here is done. Never you in your miserable life insult Afenifere or your Dad next time.

I will be watching you.

Ofunaofu:
…..Supports Obi’s decision to challenge Tinubu’s declaration in court

— Disowns congratulatory message

— Vote Rhodes-Vivour, in Lagos, he’s of Yoruba origin


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/03/afenifere-rejects-tinubus-victory-insists-obi-won/

awon omo ale afenifebi

Ofunaofu:
…..Supports Obi’s decision to challenge Tinubu’s declaration in court

— Disowns congratulatory message

— Vote Rhodes-Vivour, in Lagos, he’s of Yoruba origin


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/03/afenifere-rejects-tinubus-victory-insists-obi-won/

Is Adebanjo not Afenifere. Is just a lone personal opinion of Adebanjo.

Hmm..... "Bad Belle" people in action. Those ones are not true representation of Yorubas. If they are saying the second runner-up, Obi won the election, so what will be the position of Atiku the first runner-up in the election? Instead of them to advise Obi to accept his fate and start to look at what 2027 would bring for him, they chose to be deceiving him. Let Obi hire all the SANs in the world, all I know is that he can't be declared winner of this election held on 25th February, 2023

Delicious22:
My work here is done. Never you in your miserable life insult Afenifere or your Dad next time.

I will be watching you.

grow up and stop been a betrayal hiding under some group insulting others who doesn't support their acts.. You're just being a fool and I can see that Clearly on your replies

CaptainFM1:
You get all mixed up.....The whole point I'm making is, let people decide who they will vote for. Let the vote be the decider. Let's allow for a free, fair and credible election. If the so called owners are that popular, the vote will show it. We don't have to involve thuggery, violence, voter's suppression election mal-practices et al. INEC as the umpire would also need to do better and ensure BVAS is used to accredit and upload results right from the polling units.

People are deciding, BVAS is not a Constitutional requirement just an option, the sooner people realize this the better! Furthermore, I'm not in support of thuggery or manipulation, my main point of contention is you asking people not to play the tribal card. Free and fair does not mean people cannot build up their base. It does not mean we cannot use Yoruba pride as a catalyst to get our people to vote for the candidate with our interest at heart....That's all I'm saying!

YorubaRonuuu:
grow up and stop been a betrayal hiding under some group insulting others who doesn't support their acts.. You're just being a fool and I can see that Clearly on your replies

Keep on crying and insulting Afenifere and your family.

Ọmọ alé.

Afenifere don drink oju ina

Ofunaofu:
…..Supports Obi’s decision to challenge Tinubu’s declaration in court

— Disowns congratulatory message

— Vote Rhodes-Vivour, in Lagos, he’s of Yoruba origin


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/03/afenifere-rejects-tinubus-victory-insists-obi-won/

Afenifere ko,afenifebi ni.

kk2027:
I stand with Afenifere

We're not known for insulting our elders until agbadorists started dividing us

They've even created factions in Afenifere, their desperation is that bad

I know that you are suffering from post-election trauma

Whatever Adebanjo supports fails because he is a loser.

DispatcherLagos:

Yoruba people are not mostly tribalistic, it's just the few that are that paints them black.

Before I joined nairaland, I loved Yoruba people more than I do now ( shout outs to Double 1-2 alias Emilayo my friend from Old park okigwe)

I pray one day, igbos will reduce their tribalism a little bit.

Most of you guys are ignorant and don’t read at all.
Igbos is the only tribe that have voted every tribe to power. Abiola, OBJ, Yaradua, GEJ, Atiku.

An Igbo leaves the east and anywhere in Nigeria he finds himself he makes it a home, build houses, start a family and invest. Fully settled down, bringing even his relatives to come stay and call the place a home.
All they do is to bring good things around.

Now, tell yourself the truth, which other tribe can you say these of and give me examples.

I can't vouch for any politician... whether na Obi o, or Atiku o, or Tinubu, or Sanwo Olu, or Rhodes!

Nigeria won't change.

LegendHero:
Lol. Afenifebi faction don speak again.

If you are truly the voice of Yoruba people, your candidate would have won all the states in Yorubaland.

You can continue to deceive the weeping Obi, I heard the lunatic is in court today to continue with his delusion and desperation of "I won the election".

Na lie ...atenuje has caused agbado munchers to lose their senses

Mylove55:
you were expecting victory for loudest voice,
Shouting on social media don't win election

Okay rigging wins

Parachoko:
Inconsequential Afenifere

Obi wey b Afenifere Candidate couldn't get up to 25% of the vote in the South West

Yes because of thugs, rigging and iNEC

Mrtaye:
Yes because of thugs, rigging and iNEC

So there was thugs, rigging and INEC all over the South East

But the election is free and fair in the South East right? There was no issue of thugs, rigging and INEC?

If I can still remember, at least two people were shot dead in Abia on that election day and one of the dead was beheaded.

Mrtaye:
Okay rigging wins

silent victory, no noise,
Building bridges , which is structure won the election

abbey621:
People are deciding, BVAS is not a Constitutional requirement just an option, the sooner people realize this the better! Furthermore, I'm not in support of thuggery or manipulation, my main point of contention is you asking people not to play the tribal card. Free and fair does not mean people cannot build up their base. It does not mean we cannot use Yoruba pride as a catalyst to get our people to vote for the candidate with our interest at heart....That's all I'm saying!

Sure, why not? People should be free minded and it doesn't mean Yoruba people cannot vote other race too and vice versa. That's my point. All the best to whoever the people choose. Whatever the requirement is, the onus is on INEC to create a balanced and unbiased atmosphere, free, fair and credible election for us all.

All those hare-brained southeast children of hate on this forum who think Yoruba people are their problems, Una see Una life?

This is a pan Yoruba socio cultural group spearheading the fight for inclusivity of the Igbo race in the leadership mix of Nigeria.

May God bless Afenifere.
May God bless Chief Adebanjo
May God bless Yoruba people.
May God give sense to those ruguish, self centered, bribe prone, corrupt and anti Igbo leaders, in and out of political office who are only out to destroy their brother for a wad of Naira notes

No Igbo leader of repute supported Obi because because their eyes are on Asiwaju's pocket and Atiku's purse. Shameless lots

Shame on all Igbo Judas Iscariots as exemplified by their political class.

Parachoko:
So there was thugs, rigging and INEC all over the South East

But the election is free and fair in the South East right? There was no issue of thugs, rigging and INEC?

If I can still remember, at least two people were shot dead in Abia on that election day and one of the dead was beheaded.

Yes exactly, because you thief no mean say everyone na thief

Mylove55:
silent victory, no noise,
Building bridges , which is structure won the election

Na lie it is very evident to the international community even chatam house that you delegated their questions queried it

*Presidential Election: Rigging Claims Don’t Add up*

A member of the British House of Lords, when told that money is difficult to come by these days, said he is nearly 90 years old but cannot remember any time in the past when money was easy to get. I have been watching Nigerian elections since 1979 and I cannot remember a time when those who lost the election did not allege rigging and intimidation. For a time, there was hope that President Goodluck Jonathan’s 2015 concession phone call could become the norm in Nigeria. It now looks like it was a one-off event. Instead, it was Godsday Orubebe’s 2015 attempt to storm INEC’s National Collation Centre that has endured, with Dino Melaye attempting a poor carbon copy in 2023.

The young men and women who are saying on social media that the 2023 election was full of rigging and intimidation, have no personal knowledge of the golden age of rigging and intimidation in Nigerian elections. In this election I saw no reports in the media of thugs snatching ballot boxes and stuffing them. I saw no reports of security agents cordoning off whole polling stations while ballot boxes were being stuffed. There was no story of soldiers scattering voters in any place. Where is the mother of all rigging, when Supreme Court ruled in 1983 that UPN’s Bisi Onabanjo got 1.2million votes, NPN’s Akin Omoboriowo got 500,000 votes but the returning officer added 1 behind the figure and it became N1.5million?

This year, the President did not declare the election a do or die. I saw no story of armed hooded security agents descending on a state, as in Ekiti in 2014. There was no story of an opposition governor’s plane denied landing rights at any airport. In 2023, we didn’t have a Police Commissioner Mbu denying an opposition party governor entry into his own Government House. Pray, where in Nigeria in 2023 did we have Police Commissioner Tahir Jidda denying Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe entry into Maiduguri and firing tear gas at Zik, even though Borno State Governor Muhammadu Goni stood beside him? Even the party primaries of last year lacked drama, because we saw nothing like the Babalawo who tried to enter the UPN state congress in Ibadan in 1983 with a live tortoise strapped to his waist. Another youngster wrote on social media that “this generation of Nigerian politicians do not know how to concede, unlike the older generation.” Sorry sir, they actually copied it from the older generation. In 1979, as soon as election results started trickling in, we saw GNPP leader Waziri Ibrahim dashing around to see UPN leader Chief Awolowo and NPP leader Dr. Azikiwe. The three of them, minus PRP leader Aminu Kano who refused to join, appeared together before pressmen, rejected the election results and alleged rigging, even though it was an election conducted by a military government, not like now when APC controls the Federal Government [at least, it used to]. The scene was re-enacted last week when PDP and LP running mates held a joint press conference and tried to present a common front, a case of locking the stables after the horses have bolted.

Anyone who trusts such emergency political alliances has another thing coming. In 1979 the opposition parties presented us with a common front up until the Supreme Court upheld the election result. To our utmost surprise, just before Inauguration on October 1, 1979, NPN and NPP announced an accord where they shared legislative and executive posts between them. NPP got Deputy Senate President, House Speaker and several Cabinet posts, including Zik’s running mate Prof Ishaya Audu who became Foreign Minister, Mrs. Janet Akinrinade of Oyo and Paul Unongo of Benue. Who knows now if someone is negotiating under the table?Our local and social media activists who are trying very hard to impress foreign election observers and the Western press by citing scattered incidents of election day problems knowing that White people are sticklers for procedure. They insist on correct procedure even if it produces an undesirable outcome. We Africans, who are wiser, usually walk back from the answer to the question. Our politicians’ measure of the credibility of an election is if they win, not whether or not the procedure was followed. If they don’t win, then the election is not credible.

The general African attitude to elections is that the outcome justifies the process. The credible outcome, in African eyes, is usually when the incumbent ruler or party is defeated. Hence, to most Africans, the best elections ever held in Africa were when Morgan Tsvangirai’s party defeated Robert Mugabe’s; when Adama Barrow defeated Yahaya Jammeh in Gambia; when Mohammed Morsi triumphed in Egypt against Hosni Mubarak’s premier; when Jerry Rawlings’ party was defeated in Ghana; when Macky Sall defeated Abdoulaye Wade in Senegal; when Wade himself earlier defeated Abdou Diouf; when Alassane Ouattara defeated Laurent Gbagbo in Ivory Coast; and more recently, when William Ruto triumphed in Kenya despite outgoing President Uhuru Kenyatta’s support for Raila Odinga. African style, let us walk backwards from the result to the credibility question. First, the voter turnout. There were 87 million voters with PVCs in 2023 election but only 24 million voted, or 27%. Now, the starting point of rigging elections is to take advantage of the number of registered voters.

Why leave 63 million blank names on the register if you really desire to rig up results? There is no doubt that the technological innovations adopted over the years greatly helped to clean up our elections. Up until 2007, those absent voters will simply have their votes cast for them by a coalition of party agents, election officials and security officers.The winner of this election, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu, got only 37% of the vote, down from the 56% that Buhari got in 2019. Now, while 2019 was a two-horse race between the APC and PDP candidates, 2023 was at least a four-horse race between APC, PDP, LP and NNPP candidates. It was the first time since 2007 that we had more than two major candidates in a presidential election and the first time since 1983 that we had up to four major candidates in such a race.The top four candidates in this election got 37%, 29%, 25% and 6% respectively. This compares closely with 1979 when Shagari got 34%, Awo got 29%, Zik got 16%, Aminu Kano got 10.28 and Waziri Ibrahim got 10%. The top three runners up in this race got a combined 60% of the vote. That is impressive, but then, they only have themselves to blame that they did not present a united front before the election. They only tried to present a united front to contest the results. It is a case of locking the stables after the horses have bolted. Would they have made 60% of the vote if they had united behind a single candidate? Nobody will ever know the answer for certain.

Tinubu’s party went into this election controlling the Federal and 21 state governments. In the event, he won only 12 states outright. PDP’s Atiku Abubakar also won 12 states, LP’s Peter Obi won 12 states outright [FCT included] while NNPP’s Kwankwaso won outright in one state. So how did Tinubu win the race? Simple. The number of states that a candidate wins outright is important. Equally important is the number of states in which he came second. Also very important is, if he came second with only a narrow margin in most of them.

Tinubu won 12 states outright [Zamfara, Jigawa, Borno, Niger, Kwara, Kogi, Benue, Ekiti, Oyo, Ogun, Ondo and Rivers]. He came second in 19 states [Kebbi, Sokoto, Kaduna, Katsina, Kano, Gombe, Bauchi, Yobe, Taraba, Nasarawa, Plateau, Adamawa, Osun, Lagos, Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Edo, Imo and Ebonyi]. In many cases the margins of loss were very small, only 3,000 votes in Sokoto, 12,000 in Katsina and equally narrow margins in Osun and Lagos. Very important, Tinubu came second to Kwankwaso in Kano, second to Atiku in most of the states the latter won and second to Obi in Lagos, Ebonyi, Imo and Edo.This was exactly how Alhaji Shehu Shagari won the presidency in 1979. He won outright in nine states out of 19 [Sokoto, Kaduna, Niger, Bauchi, Gongola, Benue, Kwara, Rivers and Cross River.] He won in Kaduna and Gongola even though his party lost the governorship elections there two weeks earlier, what in those days was called “the bandwagon effect.” Of the remaining ten states in Nigeria at the time, Shagari came second in 9 [Oyo, Ogun, Ondo, Bendel, Anambra, Imo, Borno, Plateau and Kano]. Shagari came third only in Lagos, after Awo and Zik. Like Shagari, like Tinubu; you are victorious if your party is either first or second in almost every state.

Allegations that APC rigged the election also falls flat because it lost the biggest states, namely Lagos, Kaduna, Kano and Katsina, even though all of them have APC state governors, all of whom are staunchly loyal to Tinubu. In terms of vote banks, what is Imo, Edo or Adamawa to these states? Why should anyone go rigging elections in some small states when he could rig up figures in the biggest ones and win by a large margin? If they could help it, why should ten APC governors, APC National Chairman and Director General of the APC campaign suffer the embarrassment of failing to deliver their states? Why should Tinubu himself suffer the embarrassment of failing to win outright in Lagos, long alleged to be his political fiefdom?Allegations that APC rigged these polls do not hold the water of logic. But those making them still have the chance to prove them at the election tribunals. Onabanjo managed to prove rigging even in the olden days of analogue collation. It is easier to do so in this age of electronic collation, if indeed rigging took place.

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Afenifere or Pa Adebanjo ?
Confused lot

Mrtaye:
Na lie it is very evident to the international community even chatam house that you delegated their questions queried it

we told idiotic pigs about the silent victory, against all odds,
That is the reason obi.diot can not believe his eyes,
And he didn't want to use shame accept the overwhelming defeat,
After all the insult, naira scarcity and other bad policy obi supported, to make jagaban to lose,
But God still stand with tinubu

you think IPOB is going to come to Lagos to agitate for a separate Biafra ? In Lagos? 🤔[quote author= post=121581643]Hello Coco,
One mistake you keep making in relations to our comment/post on Nairaland is juxtaposing when we use the word ipobs for igbos.
Where in our comment today or prior now that you see us talking about igbos in a derogatory way, quote one and let us know?
The quote you quoted the word 'ipob' was used by us, but in your mention, you decided to change it to igbos, come on sis!
We have typed it over 5000 times here that not every igbo is an ipob.
Ipobs are terrorists and cannibals killing true igbos.

Most of us are Igbos @MANNA,
If we want to use the word igbo, we do it,
We only use igbos when it comes to the good things people from our tribe do all over the world.
Any evil and wicked one among us will only come from the stupid cannibals and terrorists under the command of the animal called cownu and his cohort Ekpa, we detest anything ipob, cos of their evil ways and most especially killing of one of our relative, a young girl with a bright future, a shining star in her family (we pray that will never be your portion in life), he who feels it know it.
So when we vent our anger on Cownu the animal and his ipobs swines and bastards, and it doesnt sit well with you,
kindly ignore or don't respond to that post.
Let's leave our interactions to the food section biko.

Every sane person will be against the heinous killings of Sane, honest and hardworking igbos all around the world.
Why do some people get mad when we talked about terrorists and animals like ipob and boko haram killing innocent Nigerians and disturbing the peace of our already volatile nation.

Until you learn how to not relate our vent on ipob animals as a vent on the industrious and hardworking igbo tribes, the better for our online friendship sis.
We've made more than 5000 comments here talking about the fact that not all Igbos are ipobs, but unfortunately, all ipobs are igbos.
We have to sieve out the wicked ones that can comfortably cut off a woman's head, breast and private part without flinching for a second from us.
They are not part of us.

We decided to reply cos of the respect we have for you and the good job you are doing,
We don't reply just anyone here like that,
You are an inspiration,
Btw, we may be more closer than you think.
Peace out Sis✌️ ✌️[/quote]

Mylove55:
we told idiotic pigs about the silent victory, against all odds,
That is the reason obi.diot can not believe his eyes,
And he didn't want to use shame accept the overwhelming defeat,
After all the insult, naira scarcity and other bad policy obi supported, to make jagaban to lose,
But God still stand with tinubu

We are talking about credibility here,the victory isn't......oyinbo says it as it is

CaptainFM1:
Sure, why not? People should be free minded and it doesn't mean Yoruba people cannot vote other race too and vice versa. That's my point. All the best to whoever the people choose. Whatever the requirement is, the onus is on INEC to create a balanced and unbiased atmosphere, free, fair and credible election for us all.

I like the bold part, did you pass this message to the people in Anambra, Enugu, Owerri etc? Why does it seem those areas 90% of the time vote based on tribe but when it comes to the SW, we cannot do that? Yes you're right INEC must be unbiased and so far it has, forget the sentiments and the BVAS, were majority of people able to vote? Did INEC deviate from the standard operating procedure for elections since 2003? Deep down when you look at it, you'll see this election was just as fair as all elections since 2003.

cococandy:
you think IPOB is going to come to Lagos to agitate for a separate Biafra ? In Lagos? 🤔

Explain why Ojukwu wanted to start Biafra war in Lagos in 1967.

Explain why IPOB has taken over Alaba market


The Chairman of Alaba International Market Association, Mr. Patrick Iwuagwu has been dethroned and chased out of the market alongside his executives by members of the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB, who invaded the market, mounted their banners and declared the market as their territory in Lagos.

P.M.EXPRESS reports that the incident happened at the market located in Ojo Local government area of Lagos.

http://pmexpressng.com/ipob-members-dethrone-alaba-market-chairman/