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Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by enemybulldozer(m): 8:07am On Mar 22, 2023 |
raskymonojendor:What has his lawyers got to do with the issues at hand? No be una dey pursue Igbos for lagos, what do you have to say concerning that? You don chook eye for obi matta but developed a blind eye for the things wey happened for lagos on 18th Bloody hypocrite! 1 Like |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by Penguin2: 8:08am On Mar 22, 2023 |
tuborme: I want to see how the judges will dismiss all the grounds of the petition in Tinubu’s favour. We are waiting. 1 Like |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by Ofunaofu: 8:09am On Mar 22, 2023 |
N3TRAL: Stop jumping the gun You all told Peter Obi to go to court, he obeyed Why are you now having issues with it 2 Likes |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by biaframaster200: 8:22am On Mar 22, 2023 |
baralatie: I.laugh in atomic bomb language....i can bet.my two balls that none of the Amazon employees will do such things...because as part of the employment condition ...data privacy and protection is paramount.....on what ground did the person or the company wants to.come and testify against what he was paid to protect..... 1 Like |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by senatordave1(m): 8:26am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Penguin2: Oga,you south easterners are too sentimental and emotional.this is a weak case.by virtue of AA vs uche nwosu,it is not double nomination. Tinubu was never convicted.forfeiting money is not conviction. Amazon cloud has no business with the election,the business lp has is with inec.same mistake atiku made with inec server.. Obi winning rivers and benue would not make him overtake tinubu so it is a waste.he would lose this case just like the election 1 Like |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by Penguin2: 9:18am On Mar 22, 2023 |
senatordave1: Poor you… Atiku lost the 2019 election case because as of the then, there was no law allowing INEC to own, maintain and deploy a server for the purpose of an election. That has now been taken care of by the 2022 Electoral Act which has given INEC the power to maintain a server and deploy other electronic devices for elections. Therefore, anything related to server or other electronic devices deployed by INEC is now justiciable in court. Grow up from your anachronistic 2010 Electoral Act. About Rivers and Benue, the question is not about the votes from there making significant difference in Obi’s favour, but if that action does not amount to substantial infringement on the conduct of the election and a justifiable ground for cancellation of the election. Then lastly, remember that Obi is not contending only the votes of Rivers and Benue, but also Kaduna, Lagos, Bauchi, etc. So, relax and get your wig ready to defend Tinubu in court. If una win, congratulations.
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Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 9:23am On Mar 22, 2023 |
senatordave1:So why did Inec announce Tinubu won Rivers and Benue when Irev says otherwise? It makes no difference allocating Obi votes to tinubu abi |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by Penguin2: 9:26am On Mar 22, 2023 |
biaframaster200: There’s always an exception to every contract. If Amazon is subpoenaed by a court of law to make presentations on the accreditation data on their cloud hosting in a matter of public importance, they will have no choice. Again, INEC website is not the private property of INEC but the public property of Nigeria and Nigerians. Therefore, INEC has no locus or whatsoever to invoke data protection as grounds to argue against the appearance of an Amazon staff. Or is INEC website and the data therein the private property of INEC? Lastly, do you not think that Amazon may have given green light to be involved in the case? Or that there are previous cases where Amazon officials have been subpoenaed to court to help a case? |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 9:27am On Mar 22, 2023 |
senatordave1:Overvoting in other Southwest States was also listed. |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by biaframaster200: 9:46am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Penguin2: In the first instance ....Amazon is not a Nigerian business establishment...it is an internationally recognized establishment ...so the issue of compelling will not be there....and the issue of subpoena is subjective ....and there are ways around it.....for example....a doctor that signed a oath of secret .....can attend the court proceeding but have his own legal right to withhold some vital information in court......amd all this provision are there in our law...... So, ..... |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by senatordave1(m): 11:06am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Penguin2: Even when tinubu wins,you will still wail.you will latch onto another imaginary straws.the earlier you forget this case the better for you.I am the best analyst here and I tell you that obi will fail |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by Penguin2: 11:11am On Mar 22, 2023 |
biaframaster200: Is INEC server, and the data therein, a public or private property?🤔 |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by wegevv: 11:12am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Penguin2 please which section is the Amazon / AWS mentioned? I want to have a read. I doubt they even need to subpoena Amazon. All they need to do is prove that the data is correct and any third-party AWS expert might be able to do that depending on the data source. We already know INEC uses AWS (Amazon Web Services) as all the uploaded polling unit images are uploaded to S3 buckets. Anyone that has worked with AWS before and seen the URLs would know this. All LP and PO need to do is get the court to force INEC to allow an expert access to their AWS account. With that access, any expert will be able to confirm if the data matches what LP have claimed and if it was tampered with too. This is all very basic stuff and easy to do. Again AWS themselves don't need to be brought into it. You just need access to the AWS account. I strongly suspect that the AWS account would be managed by whichever engineering company that INEC outsourced BVAS/IREV system to (not directly by INEC). AWS itself doesn't typically manage customer's account but instead manages the infrastructure you use and the services. In fact if you know what you're doing you can have data in AWS that Amazon itself cannot access (using client side encryption for instance). It is the company managing the account that need to be subpoenaed. I doubt LP hacked anyone to get the data. If you use AWS correctly it is extremely difficult (verging on impossible) to hack. Maybe the company managing this data unintentionally kept it in an unencrypted S3 bucket with public access, who knows. If that data is still publicly available then all this should be even easier to prove without any subpoenas |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by biaframaster200: 11:14am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Penguin2: Bro....it is subjective...I will advise you to. go and read about the subpoena and some. clauses around....then come back.and.discuss... |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by Mindlog: 11:17am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Mynd44: Ibori was convicted in the UK , can he still run for political office in Nigeria? 1 Like |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by wegevv: 11:27am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Found this on page 61 on that link:
I believe what they are saying here is that they are ready to subpoena Amazon staff/officer to prove as a fact that INEC did indeed use AWS as part of their hosting/storage. As for the actual data itself you don't even need to go to Amazon 1 Like |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by Penguin2: 11:37am On Mar 22, 2023 |
biaframaster200: What is subjective? If INEC server is public or private property?🤔 1 Like |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by Penguin2: 11:45am On Mar 22, 2023 |
wegevv: I see you are an expert ICT personnel. Good one. Their references to the Amazon AWS is on page 17, paragraphs 46, 47 & 48. 1 Like
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Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by wegevv: 12:13pm On Mar 22, 2023 |
Penguin2: Thanks. So looks like they might just be referring to the polling unit results that were intentionally made publicly available on the irev portal (backed by AWS). Those images clearly link to AWS S3 buckets (as seen by the URL of many of them) so in my opinion that is already clear proof that they did indeed use AWS. But I believe the petitioners are saying they are also happy to subpoena Amazon to confirm that INEC (or whatever company it outsourced to) did indeed use AWS. I really doubt that is necessary but Amazon should be able to easily confirm as it isn't anything private. it's basically: "are these people your customers", "yes". I was confused about the mention of "the number of accredited voters" as I thought that was implying that LP had managed to get some private INEC data from AWS but the number of accredited voters is written on every polling unit result sheet on the publicly available images on AWS so that is likely what they are referring to. Looks like they have done some calculations and seen that the ward results declared by INEC exceeded the sum of the accredited voters in those areas. 1 Like |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by Penguin2: 7:50pm On Mar 22, 2023 |
wegevv: There’s this question I asked a Tinubu supporter earlier and he ran aware. I asked him if INEC server is a private or public property. Obviously you and I know that INEC, and every property it holds, is a public property. And as per Freedom of Information Act, whatever information in their custody can be obtained by any Nigerian. Then there’s the services of ethical hackers who might have been able to breach INEC’s AWS server to obtain some information that Obi is using to prosecute his case. And that’s why he’s able to confidently state in his petition that there was overvoting in Ekiti, Oyo, Ondo, Kano and some other states based on the accreditation data he obtained from AWS. Remember that the court has ruled that illegally gotten evidence is admissible in court. 2 Likes |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by Horus(m): 1:01am On Mar 23, 2023 |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by NothingDoMe: 1:21am On Mar 23, 2023 |
biaframaster200:Amazon can be subpoenaed. |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by NothingDoMe: 1:25am On Mar 23, 2023 |
Mindlog:Good question. I'm curious about the answer.😄 |
Re: Full Text Of Peter Obi ‘s Election Petition. by KanwuliaExtra: 2:35am On Mar 23, 2023 |
Penguin2: Awon 'KOKO ZARIA' of NL will tell you he did not commit any crime in Nigeria. This criminal was Governor Of Lagos FOR 8 YEARS and made it to the US senate? I pity Nigeria! |
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