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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Toks2008(m): 8:15am On Mar 24, 2023 |
colonelwealth:Please address my question on page 2 about abuja being considered as a state. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by colonelwealth(m): 8:17am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Toks2008: Pls what's your question sir? Ok, I have seen it now. My answer is NO. Abuja is not considered a state in the electoral laws of Nigeria but as a special federal capital territory. However in other matters of inclusivity...e.g....finacial allocations and other general national benefits, it is considered as one. Pls kindly go through in details my writeup early. Thanks. |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 8:39am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Toks2008: A part of the constitution by virtue of the supreme Court has said that the FCT should be treated as a state and is only for special cases when it has to do with equity and fairness, for example, state of origin: Abuja is not state but how do you place indigenes of Abuja when it comes to state of Origin, in such cases the supreme states that Abuja should be treated as a state in such situation to accommodate the indigenes. Please read the answer I gave to someone based on his question.... 2/3 of 36 boys and girl is what? Thank God you used girl instead of girls, that means you had to include the only one girl because you know she is different from the boys, then again if you would be fair to her for being the only girl you will want her to benefit some rights that 2/3 of those boys will get. Because there is possibility that she will always miss out when they are sharing anything if you lump her as 2/3 with the rest of the boys since she is the only one different. So what would you do, give her her own 2/3 as a constant with the remaining 2/3 of the 36 boys, that way you will always make sure she is not left out in the equation... That is the special privilege Abuja gets for been FCT, this same thing I just explained is what made the indigenes of Abuja go to court to challenge the FG for appointment of ministers in 2018. Most presidents in the past refused appointing a minister from FCT on the grounds that it is not a state, because of that the FCT indigenes were always missing because the constitution was that the president should appoint from states of the federation, the case dragged on to supreme court and the supreme Court gave a verdict that Abuja should be given a special privilege for ministerial appointment, so they don't always miss out. I think that was the same constitutional problem the writers saw and gave Abuja the same special privilege because they know most likely they will miss out always by the virtue of not been called a state, every presidential participant and party will ignore them, some candidates will not even go there to campaign, they will just term it a needless location that has no political value to win election. And you know what it means politically not to have value, it will also mean neglect when political holders get into office, because he would say whether he does to them good or bad he doesn't need their votes to win.... |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Toks2008(m): 8:48am On Mar 24, 2023 |
colonelwealth: My fear is that the court might be complicit and interprete it to favour Tinubu having scored over 25% in 30 states. |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by SporaD8: 8:50am On Mar 24, 2023 |
dat9jaguy:Simplify: 7men and one woman are to Share N8000 among themselves. Which formula will you use? i) Every individual get N1000 each. ii) The woman get N4000, while the remaining N4000 is shared among the men. 2 Likes |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by SporaD8: 9:00am On Mar 24, 2023 |
jumobi1:Please help check if there is a Comma(,) in place where I put the thinking head. i) A comma in place means the 25% Clause is applicable to the two factors(STATES, and FCT) separately. ii) No comma means the 25% Clause is applicable to the two factors(STATES and FCT) collectively. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by dat9jaguy(m): 9:04am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Brendaniel: The point is that you are not interpreting it well. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by buharitill2023: 9:06am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Brendaniel:you're speaking abadabidi, You have agreed that fct is lump with the rest state as 37 states, The only girl can be among the 25 or may not, Nothing special about fct, The only girl is included because is among the family. Fct is part of the federation |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by dat9jaguy(m): 9:09am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Brendaniel: Your analysis is very weak but we can argue from now till eternity and there will be no head way because we are not lawyers. Let us wait for the Supreme Court to decide. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 9:11am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Toks2008: If they do that, it will mean they would be depriving the FCT of its special privilege and that would mean that FCT has little or no electoral value anymore, if the law stands then FCT might not need candidates going there to campaign, the only reason anyone might go there is to add number to his votes but not to meet the minimum requirement which sets a very dangerous precedence for the FCT. Because 1st FCT is not a state, so if the 25% is not mandatory on it, what then is special about FCT apart from number of votes. Just imagine they single out a whole region like say south east and say, their 25% requirement doesn't mean anything to become president, do you know how neglected that region will be, when first some candidates insult the south east that they don't have the numbers, the only reason some candidates went there is just to get the 25%, Abuja is a territory that stands on its own, once you take away special privileges from it, then it might suffer a lot politically... 2 Likes |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by denko(m): 9:11am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Abuja is like electoral college in US adanny01: |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by adanny01(m): 9:11am On Mar 24, 2023 |
bentenny: What is that explicit requirement - "where the margin of lead is less than the total number of voters in PU's where election didn't hold or voided". That's the condition for rerun. Otherwise, they can't call for rerun because of Abuja. |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by denko(m): 9:12am On Mar 24, 2023 |
In US you can will majority Votes but can still loose the elections 1 Like |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by colonelwealth(m): 9:13am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Toks2008: They may try to manipulate the interpretation and judgement but will fail ...so let's be hopeful. God will work Obi's victory out in a beautiful way that everyone will know that it was God himself that did it. |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 9:15am On Mar 24, 2023 |
dat9jaguy: You call cases I mentioned that went to supreme court as weak? No they are not, Abuja is a special territory and must be given special privileges for equity if not they will miss out a lot.... |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by dat9jaguy(m): 9:16am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Bede2u: Hypothetically, let us assume the candidate that won FCT lost other states without getting 25% in them but the opponent won the remaining 36 states without getting 25% in FCT, then you will call for rerun It just doesn't make sense. This example is hypothetical and just for this argument. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by dat9jaguy(m): 9:18am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Brendaniel: Rest nah, let the court decide since you being stubborn in your ignorance.
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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Softmirror: 9:20am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Racoon: YOU ARE ALL WASTING YOUR TIME. IN AS MUCH AS IT IS THIS FCT 25% IS WHAT YOU WANT TO BUILD ON AS A CASE. |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by pryme(m): 9:20am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Now this whole thing is becoming disgusting, The same Obi supporters that were yelling Nigerians did not vote for Tinubu and he is not the will of the people, are now saying that the candidate that got THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTES IN NIGERIA INCLUDING 25% IN THE MAJORITY OF THE STAES should be stripped of his certificate of return and given to a candidate that never GOT the popular vote all because he won in a territory with one of the smallest land mass in Nigeria and you want to talk about democracy. This is what happens when you are operating in a bubble. The FCT was added as a state, for election purpose. Am yet to see where in the Constitution the term MANDATORY was used for FCT. |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Softmirror: 9:23am On Mar 24, 2023 |
dat9jaguy: THEY ALL KNOW THAT THEY ARE WASTING THEIR TIME. WHAT ELECTIONS ARE ALL ABOUT IS A NATION WIDE SPREAD ACCEPTANCE OF A CANDIDATE. IT'S NOT MANDATORY TO WIN ABUJA. NOT AT ALL. THEY ARE ALL JUST WASTING THEIR TIME. |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 9:25am On Mar 24, 2023 |
buharitill2023: Even after explaining, you don't still understand, you have 36 boys and 1 girl and at Random you are mandated to share money to at least 25 of them every 4 years, but your eyes must be closed while selecting them. That girl already is disadvantaged because in the next 20 years She might never be picked, so how do you ensure that she doesn't grow old and die without getting picked, single her out and ensure she gets her own minimum share of what the remaining 24 boys will get anytime you are sharing... That way She gets a special privilege of been the only girl... 1 Like |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 9:26am On Mar 24, 2023 |
dat9jaguy: It is you that is being ignorant.... |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Aquila99: 9:28am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Brendaniel: Den ur write up dia is shitty. Pull ut down or better get a learned fellow. Not charge and bail lawyers |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by frowland(m): 9:29am On Mar 24, 2023 |
dat9jaguy: That also means for there to be endless rerun, all we need to do it to make sure the leading candidate never makes 25% in the FCT. Secondly, Abuja was not shared in equal part to all ethnic groups and religion. So why should I have 25% there? Are the people living in Abuja Aliens with two heads? Doesn't make sense. |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 9:30am On Mar 24, 2023 |
dat9jaguy: You should have explained how... I gave a detailed explanation, the least you can do is to give your own too... |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by dat9jaguy(m): 9:32am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Brendaniel: I did whilst responding to your original post.
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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 9:33am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Aquila99: If you need a lawyer to always interpret the law for you, then you might have lots of problems with the law.... |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Aquila99: 9:34am On Mar 24, 2023 |
bentenny: Oga rest, wch constitution, wia is it, quote it here. You pple keep going around telling same lie all over, gullible ones will now be buying and spreading it around.. electoral law said 25% in 24 states and highest vote cast. In d case of BAT, he got both, odaz didn't get d oda two requirements for runoff. So y shld dia be one? |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 9:36am On Mar 24, 2023 |
dat9jaguy: And I explained further which I expected you to do, the law on this matter is clear, Abuja is given special privileges for equity, remove that and Abuja will suffer a lot even though it is the sit of power.... |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Aquila99: 9:36am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Brendaniel: Even SANs need judges to interpret some laws, dat is why d approach d court. 1 Like |
Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by dat9jaguy(m): 9:36am On Mar 24, 2023 |
frowland: My point exactly. In interpreting this section of the constitution, the idea is that FCT is regarded as a state in the calculation of 25% of national spread of votes.
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Re: 25% In FCT - A Simple Explanation On Why APC And INEC Have Erred (my Opinion) by Brendaniel: 9:37am On Mar 24, 2023 |
Aquila99: Some laws are very clear that even a teenager will explain easily.... |
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