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jesusjnr2020:
Who Appointed Satan The Ruler Of This World?

This is in continuation of a thread I made last week, where I said not all leaders were appointed by God and proved it with scriptures, especially the teaching of Christ. Yet there were some here, including Christians, who strongly disagreed with that position and were arguing because they believed all leaders were appointed by God.

Hence this is to illustrate how erroneous that idea of theirs is, because if they indeed believe God appointed every leader, that means they also believe that Satan was appointed by God as leader of this world, because they can't possibly believe that all leaders were appointed by God but at the same time not believe that God was the One that also appointed Satan to rule the world He made in the beginning.

Then imagine teaching believers to consequently subject themselves to Satan's authority, because all leaders were appointed by God... wouldn't that sound as heretic and antichrist as they could possibly come?

That's how glaringly false and ridiculous the idea that all leaders were appointed by God is, because the God who created the earth and everything in it had never on any occasion appointed Satan to rule over everything He made in the beginning.

It was never God's plan A or plan B up to plan Z for Satan to become the ruler of this world.

The only person God intended to have dominion and to rule over this world was the man He made in His own image.

That was the plan of God before He made man.

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

[And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

That was actually the concept of God making man, to rule over His creation, so after God had made man (male and female), He officially appointed man the leader of the Earth and hence gave them charge, authority and dominion over everything He made in the beginning, to actualise His plan for making man.

Genesis 1:28 (KJV)

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Therefore it was man that God appointed the ruler of the world He'd made and gave authority over it, never the devil.

God bless.

Tinubu did the Appointment. He will still appoint more

Franking:
Problem solved.

He'll get bored if he does that. 😂

World 🌍

Nia69:
He'll get bored if he does that. 😂

Then we should be allowed to play to the script in peace.

adams123:
It was man that foolishly sold his leadership-right to the devil for just a bite of the forbidden fruit. Genesis 2:16-17, 3:6.

You now have got to insult Adam in your write up here.. nawa for you oo.

It was the most foolish decision ever, no insult intended. Even me I have made some foolish decisions so it doesn't change that fact because it's me.

TheMaterialist:
Arguing about God, Angels, Devils and Demons; is like arguing about Superheroes and Supervillains, its just too Fictional.

Absolutely! I don't believe in any of it, they are just folktales.

Make una dey thier dey contradict una slf over fictitions

Franking:
Then we should be allowed to play to the script in peace.

😂 Couldn't agree more.

Hier:
God appointed man by giving man the dominion over everything God created, That right solely belonged to Adam (gods) see Psalms 82:6
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Adam fell and Satan collected the right from Adam

that right belong to every child that came through Adam. That you and I.

jesusjnr2020:
He agrees man appointed the devil to be his ruler but you disagree and call it a lie because Satan said it so what is simple? Or are you confused?

You can't agree Satan become ruler and disagree when Satan said it himself except you don't agree with that part.

Lol.... ur problem here is that i that i dont beleive the words of a liar?? It is fact the fallen angel is a lair... but u want to tag me evil just becos i am not worshipping ur exact explanation of things... all u have is a context.. dont mske urself an authority...u are not jesus

See i agree with the guy i quoted because he's not overthinking context.... just like me, he said the devil is ruler of this world not becos somebody appointed him as ruler or gave the world to him as his property to give to anybody he wants..... but becos millions of pple allow the devil influence them to do against the will of God almighty....

If there is no evil, You won't value Good. If there was no Satan, You wouldn't Love God. Satan was created for the purpose he is fulfilling..

This very issue was addressed by a man of God. He made it clear than Man gave gave up his control in the garden of Eden. Man gave the devil. Thats why when Satan took Jesus to top of the mountain, he said I'll give you control if you bow to me.

jesusjnr2020:
Who Appointed Satan The Ruler Of This World?

This is in continuation of a thread I made last week, where I said not all leaders were appointed by God and proved it with scriptures, especially the teaching of Christ. Yet there were some here, including Christians, who strongly disagreed with that position and were arguing because they believed all leaders were appointed by God.

Hence this is to illustrate how erroneous that idea of theirs is, because if they indeed believe God appointed every leader, that means they also believe that Satan was appointed by God as leader of this world, because they can't possibly believe that all leaders were appointed by God but at the same time not believe that God was the One that also appointed Satan to rule the world He made in the beginning.

Then imagine teaching believers to consequently subject themselves to Satan's authority, because all leaders were appointed by God... wouldn't that sound as heretic and antichrist as they could possibly come?

That's how glaringly false and ridiculous the idea that all leaders were appointed by God is, because the God who created the earth and everything in it had never on any occasion appointed Satan to rule over everything He made in the beginning.

It was never God's plan A or plan B up to plan Z for Satan to become the ruler of this world.

The only person God intended to have dominion and to rule over this world was the man He made in His own image.

That was the plan of God before He made man.

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

[And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

That was actually the concept of God making man, to rule over His creation, so after God had made man (male and female), He officially appointed man the leader of the Earth and hence gave them charge, authority and dominion over everything He made in the beginning, to actualise His plan for making man.

Genesis 1:28 (KJV)

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Therefore it was man that God appointed the ruler of the world He'd made and gave authority over it, never the devil.

God bless.

Franking:
Is there a God? If yes is he perfect?

Yes, God exist

Is He perfect? God is perfect.

He created the world 🌎 and gave man a mind or the ability to choose. Can you imagine what it would mean if you can't decide for yourself. Man was primarily created to take decisions for himself either using God as reference or other source

advanceDNA:
Lol.... ur problem here is that i that i dont beleive the words of a liar?? It is fact the fallen angel is a lair... but u want to tag me evil just becos i am not worshipping ur exact explanation of things... all u have is a context.. dont mske urself an authority...u are not jesus

See i agree with the guy i quoted because he's not overthinking context.... just like me, he said the devil is ruler of this world not becos somebody appointed him as ruler or gave the world to him as his property to give to anybody he wants..... but becos millions of pple allow the devil influence them to do against the will of God almighty....

You are right, Devil has been around for Thousands of Years and has had enough time to build his evil empire. It's why they call certain times endtimes cos the overall Strategy of the Devil would be coming into fruition by that time. God allows all this to happen that's just the Honest truth. Without the Devil we won't value God.

NOBODY.

OP, U DON HEAR FABU BEFORE?

chukkystar:
If there is no evil, You won't value Good. If there was no Satan, You wouldn't Love God. Satan was created for the purpose he is fulfilling..

So satan is the villain of the story.

A neccessary evil perhaps?

delkuf:
that right belong to every child that came through Adam. That you and I.

There is a difference between ownership and occupancy

An owner has the original documents. Satan collected the original documents from Adam, which is the right over this world, except we use our authority in Christ, we can't enjoy that ownership right. But just being an occupant.

Hier:
There is a difference between ownership and occupancy

An owner has the original documents. Satan collected the original documents from Adam, which is the right over this world, except we use our authority in Christ, we can't enjoy that ownership right. But just being an occupant.

And if not that Adam disobeyed God and sinned, we would still have that right today. That is my point

Beg

jesusjnr2020:
Who Appointed Satan The Ruler Of This World?

This is in continuation of a thread I made last week, where I said not all leaders were appointed by God and proved it with scriptures, especially the teaching of Christ. Yet there were some here, including Christians, who strongly disagreed with that position and were arguing because they believed all leaders were appointed by God.

Hence this is to illustrate how erroneous that idea of theirs is, because if they indeed believe God appointed every leader, that means they also believe that Satan was appointed by God as leader of this world, because they can't possibly believe that all leaders were appointed by God but at the same time not believe that God was the One that also appointed Satan to rule the world He made in the beginning.

Then imagine teaching believers to consequently subject themselves to Satan's authority, because all leaders were appointed by God... wouldn't that sound as heretic and antichrist as they could possibly come?

That's how glaringly false and ridiculous the idea that all leaders were appointed by God is, because the God who created the earth and everything in it had never on any occasion appointed Satan to rule over everything He made in the beginning.

It was never God's plan A or plan B up to plan Z for Satan to become the ruler of this world.

The only person God intended to have dominion and to rule over this world was the man He made in His own image.

That was the plan of God before He made man.

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

[And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

That was actually the concept of God making man, to rule over His creation, so after God had made man (male and female), He officially appointed man the leader of the Earth and hence gave them charge, authority and dominion over everything He made in the beginning, to actualise His plan for making man.

Genesis 1:28 (KJV)

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Therefore it was man that God appointed the ruler of the world He'd made and gave authority over it, never the devil.

God bless.

He perverted the things of God to the world and the world bow to it and put the Original things of God aside. Eg. God want us to maintain the order of worship of the old but we've deviated to the order of worship of man, God want us to maintain the CONDUCT, ORDER, DOCTRINE of the Church of the Old but we've deviated to the doctrines of man therefore putting CHRIST (The HOLY SPIRIT) outside the church and let in our own ideas (social gospel of the Pentecostal church) which has given birth to the 21st century enticing spirit we've seen all over the places.
God doesn't change, He's the same yesterday today and forever.

advanceDNA:
God said u will die if u eat...
But when he came to Eve....He twisted the very words of God saying "u shall not surely die" ...

but u want to beleive what the fallen angel said when he said to jesus "i will give u the world" why will u even trust that he has anything to give...someone that can twist the very words of God.....

The guy twists the bible, and his aim is always to deceive to make u disobey God...

u are the one thats no different than the devil if u beleive any part of the word of a liar...

You don't have to accuse me falsely... I never said I believed the bolded but the part that he was in charge of the world. Remember I said he said he could say the truth to deceive man, in this case to get Jesus to bow down to Him in disobedience to God which is the intention.

You already agreed that with someone's post who said Satan was ruler because men made him so, which shows you already know it is true but still reluntant to accept that as the truth. I rest my case here.

God bless.

jesusjnr2020:
Let me say I dodged it because I don't know if you'd be able to comprehend the difficult things when you couldn't the simpler ones. The heaven Jesus spoke about I believe was that which He said could pass away but not the Word of God. It's not heaven where God stays but that which He made in the beginning which Satan was also in charge of. Have you ever heard about the queen of heaven? Or do you also think it's the queen of the heaven of God's throne? You can ask the experts in demonology for more information about this because that's not my field.

I will not comprehend....?? Lol
And U cant see how condescending and proud u are with this stantement......u no be jesus oooo....
.u are just a man that read bible and surrendered ur heart to jesus like me and u think what u know another man cant understand...

. lol.. oga come down from ur high horse..

Me bro I appointed him and he’s doing a great Job

Xturf:
This very issue was addressed by a man of God. He made it clear than Man gave gave up his control in the garden of Eden. Man gave the devil. Thats why when Satan took Jesus to top of the mountain, he said I'll give you control if you bow to me.

Exactly. That's the obvious truth but many choose not to believe it because of sentiments.

advanceDNA:
I will not comprehend....?? Lol
And U cant see how condescending and proud u are with this stantement......u no be jesus oooo....
.u are just a man that read bible and surrendered ur heart to jesus like me and u think what u know another man cant understand...

. lol.. oga come down from ur high horse..

Sorry about that. Me set the thing was really complicated for me to explain that's why i didn't bother. I think Jesus said something like that to Nicodemus too.

Your father

jesusjnr2020:
You don't have to accuse me falsely... I never said I believed the bolded but the part that he was in charge of the world. Remember I said he said he could say the truth to deceive man, in this case to get Jesus to bow down to Him in disobedience to God which is the intention.

You already agreed that with someone's post who said Satan was ruler because men made him so, which shows you already know it is true but still reluntant to accept that as the truth. I rest my case here.

God bless.

I ddnt accuse u falsely....i said all he claimed to jesus could be lies for all i care...

..i said nothing that comes out of the mouth if the liar can be trusted.....i only accused u of overthinking context because u clearly said the devil was saying the truth when he claimed the world was his to give to Jesus because u further claimed someone appointed him owner.....

self appointment

jesusjnr2020:
Sorry about that. Me set the thing was really complicated for me to explain that's why i didn't bother. I think Jesus said something like that to Nicodemus too.

I am not nicodemus
U are not Jesus

malvisguy212:
broad is the way that lead to destruction and MANY will go in there.

A quick look at mankind will tell you that majority have sold there heart to satan, thus satan become there RULER.

authomatically satan become the ruler of this world because one third of humanity are decieive by him , there loyalty is to Satan , who influences and rules it. He lies from the very depths of his characte.

I agree.

Man decision in the beginning ultimately gave mankind that inclination. Thanks for sharing.

God bless.

Adam and Eve

Rilwayne001:
Sukkot ma nigha, what you have to say on this?

my oga at the top Rilwayne wehdone Sir. OP is confused. GOD created everything and everything works for GOD , even satan and wicked world leaders all work for GOD. This realm of ours aka the three dimensional world is the judgement ground ( Ecclesiastes 3 vs 16 ) and all leaders are appointed by God either to torture us ( Zechariah 11 vs 16 ) , ( Romans 13 vs 1 ) , ( proverbs 16 vs 4), or be good to us. And every evil is sanctioned by GOD first ( Isaiah 45 vs 7 ) , (Amos 3 vs 6 ). And so this idea that satan is operating independently is nonsense. We can see that in the book of job where satan was seeking for permission from God first before destroying a man and God gave him the permission and removed his hedge of protection around the man. And so satan is like the police wing of God who destroys people on eArth for God ( Isaiah 45 vs 7 ) ( proverbs 16 vs 4 ). Everything created works for God, and he is the one who appoints all rulers too, God that is, even the wicked rulers. People don't understand Gods true nature is why there is no healthy fear of him. When you get to understand that satan works for God and all wicked leaders work for God and every evil that goes down is sanctioned by God then people would start to sit up straight. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom