raskymonojendor:

Except Peter himself is a tribalist.

Shut the f up obi is a nationalist

Na so una go dey look for who to slander

Obi isn't a saint but he's a good person

Funny thing is , you yourself know

MrBiGGEST:


Here's a more accurate view:
courtesy of ihordspy 👍🏽

MrBiGGEST:


Here's a more accurate view:
courtesy of ihordspy 👍🏽

I would have loved to engage this person honestly however since you tagged his post I would just address all the points he has made.

Yea I respect his views because we are all entitled to our views and we all see things in different opinions but honestly I don’t think we are been fair with one another in this country hence the level of injustice we all support and this last election has definitely shown that majority of us either from the Igbo or Yoruba are hypocritical with our views.

As a Yoruba man who has lived in the North, whose majority of allies and friends are igbos , married to an Igbo and definitely have several personal relationships with my Yoruba people I had always said to people who cared to listen to me that Yorubas are the worst ethnic group among them all while Hausa will forever be the best. Yes my view is based on my personal relationships with this three majority groups and another person own could be otherwise so I respect that. having said this let me address some of the points.

1. On his first point the level of voters education and awareness on the need to vote in this last election is much compared to previous elections where majority of the voters were mostly party men/women and maybe few people who still had believe in the electoral system hence the reason you will see the total number of voters are mere fractions from the registered voters. This is the only time Youths came out en-masse because most are now aware that the only way bad governance can be changed is through there votes. So what changed then and now is the level of voters education put in place by various civil organizations as well as recent happenings prior to the election which triggered the direction we are heading as a country

2. My questions are why blame some for capitalizing on a loophole and praise another person for also doing same ?

Where is the fairness in a political party and candidate that forgot Nigeria as a circular country needs to practice what she preaches. Where is the principle of federal character when a candidate opted for a vice that was from his same religious believes. He aligned with what was best for him that could give him the chance of winning. So where is the fairness in that ? Or how did peter obi capitalize or create whatever the writer termed “hate”.

Apc chose a strategy and LP capitalized on the game plan created by APC so I don’t see why we should be biased with our judgments because in all honesty if ApC had not chosen a Christian vice, we won’t have been discussing all this.

3. This writer first statement in the third paragraph is some of the issues we are having anyway atleast his own abuse is constructive not some supporters who resorts into abuse, attack, insult and curses but I am going to say this first everyone who followed this election very well knows inside him and her that the massive support for peter obi was not about religion or tribe only if we want to keep on deceiving ourselves. Prior to the election people were tired and I can say it out rightly that a lot of people like me didn’t know who to support prior to obi emergence.

The support he receives from someone like me is not because I see him as the messiah, Yes I don’t see him performing extra ordinarily also but just for one reason which is how frugal he his to finance. Thats the kind of president we need at this period because the level of debts and corruption in this country is way too much to allow other candidates emerge. Anyway Someone has been announced and we can only pray for the best.

Now on the issue of Lagos is a No mans Land this is the only place I would agree with the writer because honestly The ApC capitalized on this word and used it against Labour Party and that gave APC a clear victory even before the election.

However my point on this is that we only allowed a political party create enmity among ourselves by using the tactics of divide and rule. My point is that even without the word claimed to have emanated from Igbos sanwoolu would still have won the election even though he and the party were jittery hence the reason for adopting all means in winning the election. So my take on this is that it was Just a propaganda that igbos wants to take over Lagos.

On the issue of sanwoolu victory I disagree with the writer because we only showed how tribalistic we are by intimidating, threatening, disenfranchising or fellow citizen from supporting his or her choice due to some fallacies that was spread by a political party just to make it seems that a tribe wants to take over there land. Where is the justice in disenfranchising your fellow country man ? What is the essence of the voters education, what is the essence of the billion spent? Anyway the enjoyment we all receive most especially in Lagos is that we all continue to have voters apathy because more people will be disinterested in 2027 election

So the writer has admitted in the last paragraph that all the propaganda spread was not initiated by obi nor majority of his teeming supporters but just by a fraction of few he tagged headless mob which we all know who they are just because of politics.

Lastly the notion that majority are supporting obi are mainly Igbo is very wrong because the man is recognized by other ethnic group as well.

Ire ooo

So are you saying GVR is more competent than Sanyo-Olu?? Something is wrong with you upstairs.

peter0071:
thats the glitch. GVR is totally Yoruba... why deny Him and tag him another tribe just because his mum is IGBO?? so does it mean that Davido's kids have no future in Yorubaland? does it mean that most the families of most Yorubas who married none Yorubas have no political future in their fatherland? Igbos as well as other tribes didnt vote for Tribe nor religion... we voted for competence and personality

peter0071:
the Obidient movement remains a national non-ethnic movement.

Na igbo movement

Those insisting that Obidient movement is an Igbo agenda are mostly the religious fanatics and bigots we have in the country.
Any sensible person knows their game plan and their aim to keep pushing falsehood, malicious propaganda and to gaslighting the peace loving voters continuously. All these are devilish way to kill the morale of the youths and to attack the sensibility of the Igbo man.
I believe most of this their style of archaic attacks were also used in Turkey before it fell into a different religion.

peter0071:
the Obidient movement remains a national non-ethnic movement.

Peter OBI movement is not NATIONAL but ethnireligious although more of religious.The driving force behind that movement is the fear of Muslim Muslim ticket,a Muslim succeeding Muslim and a quest for an Igbo president!

peter0071:
thats where you are wrong? who voted massively for Obi in the North?? Igbos??

Who voted massively for Obi in the West?

the movement is far beyond tribe and religion.

Where is OBI massive vote in the north?

peter0071:
thats the glitch. GVR is totally Yoruba... why deny Him and tag him another tribe just because his mum is IGBO?? so does it mean that Davido's kids have no future in Yorubaland? does it mean that most the families of most Yorubas who married none Yorubas have no political future in their fatherland? Igbos as well as other tribes didnt vote for Tribe nor religion... we voted for competence and personality

Tit for tat

Because they're all illiterates.

nlreserve:
Well, just as I have stated, Obi never planned to contest. It was the youths who asked him to contest. And Obi didn't see the election as a thing of his own. He was seeing it as a fight for the country by everyone.
To him, he is sacrificial to the demolition of the corrupt system and the duty of the people to put him there.

Planting of moles like Tinubu is like raising structures for the continuations of the corruption because it won't be easy placing people in institutions. He would have to be paying which I don't think he embezzled money to do all that. He just wanted to go clean and to change things.

By the way, some guys in diaspora offered to secure drones to monitor the election but when the drones arrived Nigeria, they were seized by custom. So, u see, dismantling the evil structure won't be easy.

And if I were Peter Obi, I would never care about Nigeria anymore. I would even retire from Politics and make sure I establish my kids in a working country where I would stay and watch from afar. In fact, I would never contest again if I were him. The corruption would get to a stage where it would consume everyone, especially the corrupt elites. Just as the kidnappers were already targeting them, and UGM attacking politicians.

CHRISTIAN YOUTH.,...his movement gained more momentum when Osinbajo lost to Tinubu, it gained a greater momentum when Tinubu didn't only choose a Muslim VP but shettima.


Then who wanted a clean bla bla,you mean the person that installed Obiano and wanted to unseat him for reason best known to him,you meant the person that jumped from APGA to PDP to LP desperately chasing political relevance?...I now know the reasons why most OBIdients are children...I don't see any difference between OBI and his boss Atiku

You can't deceive us

They said "E go shock us" but we have shocked them so tey they're all crying like babies.

Obi is by far the best candidate so why will SE vote for someone else just to be politically correct?

MrBiGGEST:


Good, my point exactly.
Yet the obidient were quick to tag Yòrùbàs tribaslist when they rejected GRV.

But ignore the fact that SE only voted their kinsman in the presidential election...

inforesource:
Up till now I have been wondering why this Obidient movement was suddenly made to look like an igbo movement or igbo quest for presidency.

Unfortunately, the igbo then played along and now even after the nonsense called elections, the propaganda by APC keep building momentum and tagging everything igbos.

If I can remember the first time I was made to pioneer the OBIDIENT movement in my area, I booked appointment with the igbo president and his excos. I was shocked to my bones the responses I got. I was so disappointed by them because they didn't believe in the movement and they told me point blank that they were supporting APC.

I didn't waste much of my time with them and I drove off. I never got back to them and decided to work with non Indigenes, which I was part, who shared in the vision and the movement.

It was later I was told that they were ready to meet with us but it was too late a time. So, where did the OBIDIENT movement made igbos movement?

We only needed a shift from this corrupt politicians and to give this nation a hope.

Go and check last election voting pattern.

quote author=peter0071 post=122229980]thats the glitch. GVR is totally Yoruba... why deny Him and tag him another tribe just because his mum is IGBO?? so does it mean that Davido's kids have no future in Yorubaland? does it mean that most the families of most Yorubas who married none Yorubas have no political future in their fatherland? Igbos as well as other tribes didnt vote for Tribe nor religion... we voted for competence and personality[/quote]



One of the disadvantages of social media is ppl don't grow, whatever you do even if its 30yeras back will be used against you.. Believe you me he denied himself being Yoruba... He disrespects his people.. Now you tell me who would like to vote for someone who doesn't have an iota of respect for his very own people?


This your last statement get as e be sha..... You com put Igbo as first....
Chaiii😕

I love this discussion.

Firstly Obi movement became an Igbo agenda when after Obi won Lagos, social media and the streets where abashed with Igbos saying "Lagos is no man's land" etc. A lot of inciting statements

Second GVR was also a problem to Obi with his past utterances which smart politicians capitalized on

Rather than building bridges, some elements kept on insulting Yorubas forgetting that for igbos to be have a shot at presidency, you need the support of either yorubas or hausas. You cannot do it alone

Your closest allies are yorubas but some of you are quick to insult and ridicule them. Contrary to some believes yorubas are very liberal and to a fault that people think they are stupid. Well infact they are very smart people.

I am not saying yorubas don't have their fault too but igbos need to do better honestly.

Words are like eggs, once broken, it cannot be a full shelled egg again.

peter0071:
thats where you are wrong? who voted massively for Obi in the North?? Igbos??

Who voted massively for Obi in the West?

the movement is far beyond tribe and religion.

Where did they vote obi massively in the north and west?
Apart from about 4 states where he was able to invoke the religion factor

DMerciful:
Obi is by far the best candidate so why will SE vote for someone else just to be politically correct?

Same way GRV was the best candidate right?
SE voted the kinsman above anything else.
Why the sudden switch to Biafra" again?

We can keep lieing to ourselves.

emperorlaqrin:




I would have loved to engage this person honestly however since you tagged his post I would just address all the points he has made.

Yea I respect his views because we are all entitled to our views and we all see things in different opinions but honestly I don’t think we are been fair with one another in this country hence the level of injustice we all support and this last election has definitely shown that majority of us either from the Igbo or Yoruba are hypocritical with our views.

As a Yoruba man who has lived in the North, whose majority of allies and friends are igbos , married to an Igbo and definitely have several personal relationships with my Yoruba people I had always said to people who cared to listen to me that Yorubas are the worst ethnic group among them all while Hausa will forever be the best. Yes my view is based on my personal relationships with this three majority groups and another person own could be otherwise so I respect that. having said this let me address some of the points.

1. On his first point the level of voters education and awareness on the need to vote in this last election is much than the previous elections where majority of the voters were party men/women and few people who still had believe in the electoral system hence the reason you will see according to records it’s only a few fractions that comes out to vote in Nigeria and this is the only time Youths came out because most are now aware that the only way bad governance can be changed is through there votes. So what changed voters education was the difference and the majority that voted in this election were just tired of the direction country is heading.

2. My questions are why blame some for capitalizing on a loophole and praise another person for also doing same ?

Where is the fairness in a political party and candidate that forgot Nigeria as a circular country needs to practice what she preaches. Where is the principle of federal character when a candidate opted for a vice that was from his same religion. He aligned with what was best for him that could give him the chance of winning. So where is the fairness in that ? Or how did peter obi capitalize or create whatever the writer termed “hate”.

Apc chose a strategy and LP capitalized on the game plan created by APC so I don’t see why we should be biased with our judgments because in all honesty if ApC had chosen a Christian vice, we won’t have been discussing all this.

3. This writer first statement in the third paragraph is some of the issues we are having anyway atleast his own abuse is constructive not some supporters who resorts into abuse, attack, insult and curses but I am going to say this first everyone who followed this election very well knows inside him and her that the massive support for peter obi was not about religion or tribe only if we want to keep on deceiving ourselves. Prior to the election people were tired and I can say it out rightly that a lot of people like me didn’t know who to support prior to obi emergence.

The support he receives from someone like me is not because I see him as the messiah, Yes I don’t see him performing extra ordinarily also but just for one reason which is how frugal he his to finance. Thats the kind of president we need at this period because the level of debts and corruption in this country is way too much to allow other candidates emerge. Anyway Someone has been announced and we can only pray for the best.

Now on the issue of Lagos is a No mans Land this is the only place I would agree with the writer because honestly The ApC capitalized on this word and used it against Labour Party and that gave APC a clear victory even before the election.

However my point on this is that we only allowed a political party create enmity among ourselves by using the tactics of divide and rule. My point is that even without the word claimed to have emanated from Igbos sanwoolu would still have won the election even though he and the party were jittery hence the reason for adopting all means in winning the election. So my take on this is that it was Just a propaganda that igbos wants to take over Lagos.

On the issue of sanwoolu victory I disagree with the writer because we only showed how tribalistic we are by intimidating, threatening, disenfranchising or fellow citizen from supporting his or her choice due to some fallacies that was spread by a political party just to make it seems that a tribe wants to take over there land. Where is the justice in disenfranchising your fellow country man ? What is the essence of the voters education, what is the essence of the billion spent? Anyway the enjoyment we all receive most especially in Lagos is that we all continue to have voters apathy because more people will be disinterested in 2027 election

So the writer has admitted in the last paragraph that all the propaganda spread was not initiated by obi nor majority of his teeming supporters but just by a fraction of few he tagged headless mob which we all know who they are just because of politics.

Lastly the notion that majority are spreading are that obi supporters are mainly Igbo is very wrong because the man his recognized by other ethnic group as well.

Ire ooo

Agree to disagree.

My point is you can't accuse a tribe sophisticated and complex like the Yòruba's of something you're equally guilty of.

I heavenly condemn the attack on voters in some part of Lagos, the actions of agberos (thugs) tho.

But you don't hear Lagos is no Man's land again.

Nobody has switched to Biafra, just wait let the Supreme Court miscarry justice then you'll know what switching really means. Dont joke with us!

MrBiGGEST:

Same way GRV was the best candidate right?
SE voted the kinsman above anything else.
Why the sudden switch to Biafra" again?

We can keep lieing to ourselves.

raskymonojendor:

Look at the screenshot.
How did Awolowo and Tinubu show up on posters and billboards in the SE? Obi brought them in to play a tribalist politics by tagging ACN candidates anti-Igbo and pro-Yoruba. Igbos are not very fond of Awolowo.

The article was written by an Igbo man.

That election was an eye opener for me.
This Sanwo Olu vs Gbadebo was an opportunity for a payback.

Have you made any point here? What would you have said if Obi picked a Christian vice?

victorDanladi:

CHRISTIAN YOUTH.,...his movement gained more momentum when Osinbajo lost to Tinubu, it gained a greater momentum when Tinubu didn't only choose a Muslim VP but shettima.


Then who wanted a clean bla bla,you mean the person that installed Obiano and wanted to unseat him for reason best known to him,you meant the person that jumped from APGA to PDP to LP desperately chasing political relevance?...I now know the reasons why most OBIdients are children...I don't see any difference between OBI and his boss Atiku

You can't deceive us

inforesource:
Up till now I have been wondering why this Obidient movement was suddenly made to look like an igbo movement or igbo quest for presidency.

Unfortunately, the igbo then played along and now even after the nonsense called elections, the propaganda by APC keep building momentum and tagging everything igbos.

If I can remember the first time I was made to pioneer the OBIDIENT movement in my area, I booked appointment with the igbo president and his excos. I was shocked to my bones the responses I got. I was so disappointed by them because they didn't believe in the movement and they told me point blank that they were supporting APC.

I didn't waste much of my time with them and I drove off. I never got back to them and decided to work with non Indigenes, which I was part, who shared in the vision and the movement.

It was later I was told that they were ready to meet with us but it was too late a time. So, where did the OBIDIENT movement made igbos movement?

We only needed a shift from this corrupt politicians and to give this nation a hope.

Obidient movement is not an Igbo movement

Election have come and gone, the case is in court, while the stolen mandate is being retrieved let Tinubu and APC continue to spread the propaganda

You are very correct. You have been following the stuff from the beginning. All you stated are exactly what happened.
Just imagine if Obi's vice was a Christian? What would they have claimed? Even when it was Tinubu that started it oo. Their propaganda just much.

emperorlaqrin:




I would have loved to engage this person honestly however since you tagged his post I would just address all the points he has made.

Yea I respect his views because we are all entitled to our views and we all see things in different opinions but honestly I don’t think we are been fair with one another in this country hence the level of injustice we all support and this last election has definitely shown that majority of us either from the Igbo or Yoruba are hypocritical with our views.

As a Yoruba man who has lived in the North, whose majority of allies and friends are igbos , married to an Igbo and definitely have several personal relationships with my Yoruba people I had always said to people who cared to listen to me that Yorubas are the worst ethnic group among them all while Hausa will forever be the best. Yes my view is based on my personal relationships with this three majority groups and another person own could be otherwise so I respect that. having said this let me address some of the points.

1. On his first point the level of voters education and awareness on the need to vote in this last election is much than the previous elections where majority of the voters were party men/women and few people who still had believe in the electoral system hence the reason you will see according to records it’s only a few fractions that comes out to vote in Nigeria and this is the only time Youths came out because most are now aware that the only way bad governance can be changed is through there votes. So what changed voters education was the difference and the majority that voted in this election were just tired of the direction country is heading.

2. My questions are why blame some for capitalizing on a loophole and praise another person for also doing same ?

Where is the fairness in a political party and candidate that forgot Nigeria as a circular country needs to practice what she preaches. Where is the principle of federal character when a candidate opted for a vice that was from his same religion. He aligned with what was best for him that could give him the chance of winning. So where is the fairness in that ? Or how did peter obi capitalize or create whatever the writer termed “hate”.

Apc chose a strategy and LP capitalized on the game plan created by APC so I don’t see why we should be biased with our judgments because in all honesty if ApC had chosen a Christian vice, we won’t have been discussing all this.

3. This writer first statement in the third paragraph is some of the issues we are having anyway atleast his own abuse is constructive not some supporters who resorts into abuse, attack, insult and curses but I am going to say this first everyone who followed this election very well knows inside him and her that the massive support for peter obi was not about religion or tribe only if we want to keep on deceiving ourselves. Prior to the election people were tired and I can say it out rightly that a lot of people like me didn’t know who to support prior to obi emergence.

The support he receives from someone like me is not because I see him as the messiah, Yes I don’t see him performing extra ordinarily also but just for one reason which is how frugal he his to finance. Thats the kind of president we need at this period because the level of debts and corruption in this country is way too much to allow other candidates emerge. Anyway Someone has been announced and we can only pray for the best.

Now on the issue of Lagos is a No mans Land this is the only place I would agree with the writer because honestly The ApC capitalized on this word and used it against Labour Party and that gave APC a clear victory even before the election.

However my point on this is that we only allowed a political party create enmity among ourselves by using the tactics of divide and rule. My point is that even without the word claimed to have emanated from Igbos sanwoolu would still have won the election even though he and the party were jittery hence the reason for adopting all means in winning the election. So my take on this is that it was Just a propaganda that igbos wants to take over Lagos.

On the issue of sanwoolu victory I disagree with the writer because we only showed how tribalistic we are by intimidating, threatening, disenfranchising or fellow citizen from supporting his or her choice due to some fallacies that was spread by a political party just to make it seems that a tribe wants to take over there land. Where is the justice in disenfranchising your fellow country man ? What is the essence of the voters education, what is the essence of the billion spent? Anyway the enjoyment we all receive most especially in Lagos is that we all continue to have voters apathy because more people will be disinterested in 2027 election

So the writer has admitted in the last paragraph that all the propaganda spread was not initiated by obi nor majority of his teeming supporters but just by a fraction of few he tagged headless mob which we all know who they are just because of politics.

Lastly the notion that majority are spreading are that obi supporters are mainly Igbo is very wrong because the man his recognized by other ethnic group as well.

Ire ooo

MrBiGGEST:





Agree to disagree.

My point is you can't accuse a tribe sophisticated and complex like the Yòruba's of something you're equally guilty of.

I heavenly condemn the attack on voters in some part of Lagos, the actions of agberos (thugs) tho.

But you don't hear Lagos is no Man's land again.

One of them a customer was at my shop, he said give me three dozens of glass cup, which I did and he paid.
He then said SEBI UNA DON VOTE UNA BABA, EMI LO KAN. he was really pissed.
The truth is that what you can't give me, I'll make sure you don't collect such from me.
Call it whatever name, bigotry, tribalism, selfishness, devilishness, hatefulness. I call it self preservation.
Bayi ni maa se nkan mi ko yi pada.
Oko kii je ti baba t'omo, ko ma ni aala.

Like seriously, the APC Yoruba guys can raise any illogical issue just to defend themselves and accuse one.
Simply say APC guys became afraid after Obi won Lagos and were insinuating that Yoruba may be loosing hold of Lagos and then, decided to step up your rigging, intimidation and ethnic divide.

How was GRV a problem to Obi when Presidential election was performed before gubernatorial in which Obi won Lagos? Is what you wrote there logical? Simply put it that you APC guys had to tag GRV Igbo and create all tribal division and intimidation to help Sanwo Olu win.
All Yorubas are not the same. There are enlightened ones among them but they don't make noise like you guys. The mistake you make is that you think you represent all Yorubas

Conduct a free and fair election among Yorubas only and see if GRV would not win Sanwo Olu. Even between Tinubu and Obi, Obi would still win. So, the only reason APC is raising shoulder is because there's bold rigging and voters intimidation.

aljharem:
I love this discussion.

Firstly Obi movement became an Igbo agenda when after Obi won Lagos, social media and the streets where abashed with Igbos saying "Lagos is no man's land" etc. A lot of inciting statements

Second GVR was also a problem to Obi with his past utterances which smart politicians capitalized on

Rather than building bridges, some elements kept on insulting Yorubas forgetting that for igbos to be have a shot at presidency, you need the support of either yorubas or hausas. You cannot do it alone

Your closest allies are yorubas but some of you are quick to insult and ridicule them. Contrary to some believes yorubas are very liberal and to a fault that people think they are stupid. Well infact they are very smart people.

I am not saying yorubas don't have their fault too but igbos need to do better honestly.

Words are like eggs, once broken, it cannot be a full shelled egg again.

ProphetM0hammad:

Where did they vote obi massively in the north and west?
Apart from about 4 states where he was able to invoke the religion factor

Why are u not blaming Tinubu who first invoked the religious factor right from the onset?

peter0071:
He contested with his fellow Anambra man for governorship. How does that make him tribalistic?

he told Oyedepo that 2023 is a religious war.

He is a religious bigot and could be worse than Buhari

KwuoteYourFada:


Shut the f up obi is a nationalist

Na so una go dey look for who to slander

Obi isn't a saint but he's a good person

Funny thing is , you yourself know

Obi made you believe he is a good person by chosing a Muslim running mate but had to call Oyedepo and tell him the election is a religious war.
He wasn't fighting for Nigerians but for christians, even though Oyedepo told him that everyone has an equal stake

victorDanladi:

Peter OBI movement is not NATIONAL but ethnireligious although more of religious.The driving force behind that movement is the fear of Muslim Muslim ticket,a Muslim succeeding Muslim and a quest for an Igbo president!

That's where you are getting it wrong which I know you APC guys are made to be raising this propaganda.

The driving force for the Obi movement is nothing but a hunger for a real change and the end to corruption which APC represents but since APC has nothing to campaign with, they resorted to attacks and propaganda. Get this into your skull.

richmond500:
Obi made you believe he is a good person by chosing a Muslim running mate but had to call Oyedepo and tell him the election is a religious war.
He wasn't fighting for Nigerians but for christians, even though Oyedepo told him that everyone has an equal stake

You're not bright at all


What will you call a Muslim Muslim ticket in a multi religious country like Nigeria?


Fvcking Hypocrite you are!

Tue!

LKTJ123:
So are you saying GVR is more competent than Sanyo-Olu?? Something is wrong with you upstairs.

How do you know if GRV is less competent than Sanwo Olu?

nlreserve:
Why are u not blaming Tinubu who first invoked the religious factor right from the onset?

How did he do that?

Tinubu just picked a politician who he felt would give him the needed support from the north