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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 1:29pm On Apr 02, 2023
Amosaloud:


Thank you very much. I was told between 700 and 1k per sq metre when I made enquiries in February this year. This information will allow me to bargain for some small reduction in price.

No problem Sir...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 3:06pm On Apr 02, 2023
redgem:


Its not easy looking for professional artisans (cos they all claim to be professionals)... I always look at distance...would have loved to patronize some artisans here (seen the quality of their work) but I don't think I should be selfish or penny foolish...and It's not a big project for me (it is kobo kobo project) to be dragging people all the way from other state down to Benin, I have done it twice and it wasn't favorable to I and the artisans..
One here told my people that they should pay him #25k to come down to East to measure my roof before he can give quotations. I Kuku respected myself and told them to look for people that are around.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 3:25pm On Apr 02, 2023
redgem:
I was arguing with the pop guy cos of the measurements he gave me.... I told him why is it more than the total sqm of the building and he said cos they multiply the total sqm of the building with the height of the building... Please how true is this?

Let me get this straight.

Formula for calculating square meters: length x width = m2

Your artisan said: m2 x height = m3?

where m = meters
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 3:32pm On Apr 02, 2023
redgem:
Please I want to start making budget for screeding... Initially didn't want to screed the exterior walls but changed my mind (for more painting options)..

Exterior walls 39ft by 49ft long (there's balcony at the front and back of the building).
Parlour = 42sqm (didn't subtract the doors and windows, same with the rooms)
Room 1= 15sqm
Room 2= 12.26sqm
Room 3= 13.27sqm
Lobby 1= 3.93sqm
Lobby 2= 2.92sqm

I plan on buying materials myself cos it's hard to find a trustworthy artisan here who won't want to rip one off...

I want to use black cement screeding just like one bolu1986 did (don't know if he can please assist me with the mix ratio), without him saying he used black cement, you won't know it was actually Portland cement he used...

The guy that did my pop said black cement screeding isn't good for interior cos it causes heat...please how true is this? So many confusion with black cement and normal cement screeding 🤧🤧🤧

Please skimmer guys here can you assist me with the list and amount of materials I should buy that would be enough to screed the entire build 🙏🙏🙏

Quote from my pop guy
25 buckets of Screeding paint
2 20kg top bond
15 water seal
3 bags of black cement

Do you really want to ask someone to give up his secret sauce?

In this job, there are fathers, husbands, young men, students, etc. There is no standard charge for screeding. Some charge based on the name and reputation they have built over the years. Others charge because of the enormity of responsiblity they carry. Others charge because they would rather do something legit than beg or steal. Others want to make it big before tomorrow.

Because the motivations are so different, the pricing you get will vary considerably.

If you need someone that travels anywhere and everywhere and does not charge exhorbitantly. I can recommend someone. He is an undergraduate with a drive to better his lot in life. I like his work ethic. He finds time between his classes to travel all over Nigeria to do screeding so he can self-sponsor his education.

This is assuming that you found it difficult to arrive at a compromise with Bolu.1986 whose work I love and highly recommend.

Maybe I will start with your approval by passing on these parameters so we can get his costing for the above.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 3:52pm On Apr 02, 2023
FEGEITOK:


Let me get this straight.

Formula for calculating square meters: meters is length x width = m2

Your artisan said: m2 x height = m3?

where m = meters

She is talking about a wall. If the wall was layered on the floor it would be L x B . But walls are always erect
So it’s natural for it to be L X H in square meter
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 3:56pm On Apr 02, 2023
sonnie10:

She is talking about a wall. If the wall was layered on the floor it would be L x B . But wall area always erect
So it’s natural for it to be L X H in square meter

No contest.

This sentence taking it literally is the issue:

they multiply the total sqm of the building with the height of the building

it is either L x B or L x H.

The bolded sounds like L x B x H

Unless Madam erred in her presentation.

Which is unlikely because her complaint was:

why is it more than the total sqm of the building

This implies that she has the square meters and the her calculations do not rhyme with the calculations of the screeding artisan
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 4:17pm On Apr 02, 2023
money121:


MATERIALS & WORKERS ARRIVED BAYELSA SAFELY!! Offloading in progress and
INSTALLATION COMMENCE ASAP


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQC2-t4eicU



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJkL_vl6n_U?

Installation of Bond Design and Rain gutter in progress


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnqhlgus954?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 4:58pm On Apr 02, 2023
sonnie10:

One here told my people that they should pay him #25k to come down to East to measure my roof before he can give quotations. I Kuku respected myself and told them to look for people that are around.

Lol wait you want him to come all the way from lagos (maybe) to the east for free to come and give quotation Haba!!!

Make we dey respect our artisan a little bit.

My client generator repairer charged 80k for transport and logistics just to come and service the gen!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 5:14pm On Apr 02, 2023
sonnie10:

One here told my people that they should pay him #25k to come down to East to measure my roof before he can give quotations. I Kuku respected myself and told them to look for people that are around.

I lost my engine in Edo State. After several days of trial and error, I had to waybill the top of the engine and pay for my technician to travel to Edo State and fix the car.

Sometimes, there is no way around bringing an artisan that you trust and know can deliver to wherever you need him to work for you.

After it was fixed, we traveled together back to Abuja.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 5:17pm On Apr 02, 2023
twinskenny:


Lol wait you want him to come all the way from lagos (maybe) to the east for free to come and give quotation Haba!!!

Make we dey respect our artisan a little bit.

My client generator repairer charged 80k for transport and logistics just to come and service the gen!!
Don't mind them if you can't pay for tfare just hold your job i don't av strength to argue look for someone around to handle your roofing.
I can recall a client contacted for roofing measurement at calabar i charged him 35k for tfare if you patronize me the money will be refund back.. he agreed..
My installer visited d site take the measurement we summit quote.. he agreed to patronize me
He send his rep. And brother to lagos both of them divert the job and purchase the materials elsewhere
Who loose 35k? Him

We moove

Even within lagos you will send tfare before we can visit ur site for measurement
Reason why i don't believe on field marketing
If you didn't believe on trust want you read about my company online
Abeg hold your job
This life No hard

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Pecopo(m): 5:31pm On Apr 02, 2023
money121:

Don't mind them if you can't pay for tfare just hold your job i don't av strength to argue look for someone around to handle your roofing.
I can recall a client contacted for roofing measurement at calabar i charged him 35k for tfare if you patronize me the money will be refund back.. he agreed..
My installer visited d site take the measurement we summit quote.. he agreed to patronize me
He send his rep. And brother to lagos both of them divert the job and purchase the materials elsewhere
Who loose 35k? Him

We moove

Even within lagos you will send tfare before we can visit ur site for measurement
Reason why i don't believe on field marketing
If you didn't believe on trust want you read about my company online
Abeg hold your job
This life No hard
I like that. This is principle.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Pecopo(m): 5:33pm On Apr 02, 2023
sonnie10:

One here told my people that they should pay him #25k to come down to East to measure my roof before he can give quotations. I Kuku respected myself and told them to look for people that are around.
Oga u are responsible for the tfare of your worker or you get someone within your state. Even at some point accommodation you provide them, depending on how long the work will take. Don't think u are doing them a favour to patronize them.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 5:52pm On Apr 02, 2023
FEGEITOK:


Do you really want to ask someone to give up his secret sauce?

In this job, there are fathers, husbands, young men, students, etc. There is no standard charge for screeding. Some charge based on the name and reputation they have built over the years. Others charge because of the enormity of responsiblity they carry. Others charge because they would rather do something legit than beg or steal. Others want to make it big before tomorrow.

Because the motivations are so different, the pricing you get will vary considerably.

If you need someone that travels anywhere and everywhere and does not charge exhorbitantly. I can recommend someone. He is an undergraduate with a drive to better his lot in life. I like his work ethic. He finds time between his classes to travel all over Nigeria to do screeding so he can self-sponsor his education.

This is assuming that you found it difficult to arrive at a compromise with Bolu.1986 whose work I love and highly recommend.

Maybe I will start with your approval by passing on these parameters so we can get his costing for the above.


thank you sir for the mention

is not even about revealing trade secrete.. a lot of artisian out there dont do their work with passion!

i am presently working in the east, and some clients are taking the advantage of that to commit us to their smaller projects.


if you dont trust an artisan in the first place i think you shouldnt engage them.. rather look for someone you are comfortable with..

the truth is getting a good artisan around benin up the way down to the eastern side is a bit difficult.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 5:59pm On Apr 02, 2023
FEGEITOK:


Let me get this straight.

Formula for calculating square meters: length x width = m2

Your artisan said: m2 x height = m3?

where m = meters


Yes, m2 × height
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 6:00pm On Apr 02, 2023
bolu1986:



thank you sir for the mention

is not even about revealing trade secrete.. a lot of artisian out there dont do their work with passion!

i am presently working in the east, and some clients are taking the advantage of that to commit us to their smaller projects.


if you dont trust an artisan in the first place i think you shouldnt engage them.. rather look for someone you are comfortable with..

the truth is getting a good artisan around benin up the way down to the eastern side is a bit difficult.

When are you coming to Benin? Let me take advantage of it and start planning for my kobokobo project ☺️☺️☺️

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dangoteinlaw: 6:03pm On Apr 02, 2023
bolu1986:



thank you sir for the mention

is not even about revealing trade secrete.. a lot of artisian out there dont do their work with passion!

i am presently working in the east, and some clients are taking the advantage of that to commit us to their smaller projects.


if you dont trust an artisan in the first place i think you shouldnt engage them.. rather look for someone you are comfortable with..

the truth is getting a good artisan around benin up the way down to the eastern side is a bit difficult.
so it is only in lagos and ogun state that good artisans exists right, is this one high on cheap shepe? There are alot of young and good vibrant guys far far better than you and they charge even less, go on tiktok and see works of people not on nairaland that some pictures taken with a 2mp wins you a contract. I don’t know why he doesn’t want to you award you the job but I totally stand by him.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 6:03pm On Apr 02, 2023
FEGEITOK:


Do you really want to ask someone to give up his secret sauce?

In this job, there are fathers, husbands, young men, students, etc. There is no standard charge for screeding. Some charge based on the name and reputation they have built over the years. Others charge because of the enormity of responsiblity they carry. Others charge because they would rather do something legit than beg or steal. Others want to make it big before tomorrow.

Because the motivations are so different, the pricing you get will vary considerably.

If you need someone that travels anywhere and everywhere and does not charge exhorbitantly. I can recommend someone. He is an undergraduate with a drive to better his lot in life. I like his work ethic. He finds time between his classes to travel all over Nigeria to do screeding so he can self-sponsor his education.

This is assuming that you found it difficult to arrive at a compromise with Bolu.1986 whose work I love and highly recommend.

Maybe I will start with your approval by passing on these parameters so we can get his costing for the above.

Bolu1986 cost is way cheaper than here but like I always said, the distance and its not a big project that I feel will be worth the whole stress...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 6:10pm On Apr 02, 2023
Olumighty123:


Yes, it's the multiplication of length and breadth of a particular space. So, he is right.

Wait, now I understood your reply... To find the total sqm of a room is L×B but he is saying for screeding, its (L×B) xH
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 6:15pm On Apr 02, 2023
sonnie10:

One here told my people that they should pay him #25k to come down to East to measure my roof before he can give quotations. I Kuku respected myself and told them to look for people that are around.


That's one of the factors around bringing outside workers...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 6:22pm On Apr 02, 2023
Pecopo:
I like that. This is principle.
Yes my brother
Thanks so much
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 6:24pm On Apr 02, 2023
Pecopo:
Oga u are responsible for the tfare of your worker or you get someone within your state. Even at some point accommodation you provide them, depending on how long the work will take. Don't think u are doing them a favour to patronize them.
God bless you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 6:34pm On Apr 02, 2023
FEGEITOK:


I lost my engine in Edo State. After several days of trial and error, I had to waybill the top of the engine and pay for my technician to travel to Edo State and fix the car.

Sometimes, there is no way around bringing an artisan that you trust and know can deliver to wherever you need him to work for you.

After it was fixed, we traveled together back to Abuja.
Somebody else came from Warri at no cost and got the job. That was almost #8M. Another sent someone from Nnewi and said he gave the person #5k for transportation, but he did not get the job because he didn’t have Tilcor which was my choice as compared to other roofing sheets.
It is the cost of doing business.

However my issue with this particular member here was the arrogance from demanding this transportation fee payment up front like it was an entitlement.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 6:42pm On Apr 02, 2023
Pecopo:
Oga u are responsible for the tfare of your worker or you get someone within your state. Even at some point accommodation you provide them, depending on how long the work will take. Don't think u are doing them a favour to patronize them.
If you patronize any business, you are doing them a favor. They are not doing you a favor, they are working to earn a decent living, just like you worked to earn the money.
Even Coca Cola is still looking for customers.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 6:46pm On Apr 02, 2023
dangoteinlaw:
so it is only in lagos and ogun state that good artisans exists right, is this one high on cheap shepe? There are alot of young and good vibrant guys far far better than you and they charge even less, go on tiktok and see works of people not on nairaland that some pictures taken with a 2mp wins you a contract. I don’t know why he doesn’t want to you award you the job but I totally stand by him.


Lol I will ignore you sir. Cause you are totally out of point. You just jumped without looking

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 6:51pm On Apr 02, 2023
redgem:


Bolu1986 cost is way cheaper than here but like I always said, the distance and its not a big project that I feel will be worth the whole stress...

What’s your concert about the present people you want to engage? Measurement or high price ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by baaliyah(m): 6:54pm On Apr 02, 2023
redgem:


Wait, now I understood your reply... To find the total sqm of a room is L×B but he is saying for screeding, its (L×B) xH

Home owners are enjoyed to have basic measurement knowledge.
Wall is L×H
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 6:57pm On Apr 02, 2023
sonnie10:

Somebody else came from Warri at no cost and got the job. That was almost #8M. Another sent someone from Nnewi and said he gave the person #5k for transportation, but he did not get the job because he didn’t have Tilcor which was my choice as compared to other roofing sheets.
It is the cost of doing business.

However my issue with this particular member here was the arrogance from demanding this transportation fee payment up front like it was an entitlement.
But i don't think that should be an issue,
Yoruba Proverb said "Kogba Kodija"
If you can get someone else that will do your job at low cost no problem
Not that you will come to the forum and compare quote up and down becos you want to do them favour grin
MR FAVOURITE grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 7:14pm On Apr 02, 2023
money121:

But i don't think that should be an issue,
Yoruba Proverb said "Kogba Kodija"
If you can get someone else that will do your job at low cost no problem
Not that you will come to the forum and compare quote up and down becos you want to do them favour grin
MR FAVOURITE grin grin
I, personally have bought things worth more than #10M from members in these forum. People I have never met. Last 2 weeks, a member here supplied my cables worth millions, never seen him in person. A member this week supplied some of my doors, over #4M. I don’t even know him and he doesn’t know me. So I don’t know who you are referring to. I can name them.
I don’t know your business operating procedures and I don’t care to know. I never referenced you in my previous post but it seems your conscience is pricked.
At low cost? Do I sound like someone looking for cheap?
Do you sell Tilcor or any of the first generation quality stone coated sheets? No. You don’t. You only sell the affordable type. So our paths would never cross.
Please take a chill.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 7:15pm On Apr 02, 2023
bolu1986:


What’s your concert about the present people you want to engage? Measurement or high price ?

Measurement and credibility
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 7:19pm On Apr 02, 2023
money121:

But i don't think that should be an issue,
Yoruba Proverb said "Kogba Kodija"
If you can get someone else that will do your job at low cost no problem
Not that you will come to the forum and compare quote up and down becos you want to do them favour grin
MR FAVOURITE grin grin

Please is it wrong to compare quotes? Cos you are making it sound like it's wrong.... Why was this thread created in the first place?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Olumighty123(m): 7:21pm On Apr 02, 2023
redgem:


Wait, now I understood your reply... To find the total sqm of a room is L×B but he is saying for screeding, its (L×B) xH

H stands for height if I get you right?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 7:22pm On Apr 02, 2023
Olumighty123:


H stands for height if I get you right?

Yes Sir....

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