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Who go help you won't stress you...

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Actually the way it usually works is you first have to prove yourself to the person, then things become easier because there is a level of trust in your competence

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Please can anyone help me check these prices of Plumbering materials. I bought PPR for 2600 or so last year, this one this person is quoting 3800,has it gone that high? And the other materials too.

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redgem:
Thanks so much for the response... Please did you use white cement with pop screeding paint and bond or please can I get the list of materials to buy?

9iceDaniel:
Ayin as we call it in Ibadan is good for your 3 by 4, 2 by 6 and 2 by 4

Milliena is for 2by2 and 2by3


Am in Ibadan and can supply anywhere, price friendly and better than what you can get in Lagos.

Thank you so much for the information on the woods, unfortunately I might not be able to patronize you at this time.

KolaShangOne:
Don't use Melina for all your roofing. It's a soft wood kind of..

Your building is at Agbara.. I am 1000% sure you'll get Ayin or Akun at Iju, Onibikun and even at Goro areas in Atan.

If you're using slate, I will assume you're on a budget.. if not, you'll get good wood at Ijebu or ibadan

Wow thanks we didn't even think of sawmills around atan. We will ask at those places.

I read about ayin here too and the other man that responded here also mentioned it too dunno why the carpenter seems to be averse to hard wood (maybe I it's in my imagination) and then use melina for nogging.


Yes we are on a budget, my mum had also mentioned Ijebu too we were just thinking of transport costs.

Hopefully I will be back with an update after checking those areas first.


Please can you also help check the estimate. The building is approximately 49 by 39 feet.

One item is missing from the list initially we thought of doing the noggins later so he had already left it out of the written estimate and then we decided against that.

2 by 2 - 250 pieces at 400naira each

sonnie10:
Somebody else came from Warri at no cost and got the job. That was almost #8M. Another sent someone from Nnewi and said he gave the person #5k for transportation, but he did not get the job because he didn’t have Tilcor which was my choice as compared to other roofing sheets.
It is the cost of doing business.

However my issue with this particular member here was the arrogance from demanding this transportation fee payment up front like it was an entitlement.

Hian, The sound of arrogance in your words. Honestly you sound very silly. the profit from your #8M job might not be more than #150K majority is meant for materials. He offered you a service and you paid for the service, if you think you are doing him a favor then his also doing you a favor by offering his service to a very cheap and despicable client like you.
I have given out contracts worth over #560M in just two months. Be humble. Any Nigerian Artisan will go through hell dealing with your kind.
I bet in your entire lifetime that you have never met a standard company that would refund your money and even sue you, at the middle of your cheap project just because you talk down on their worker and end up spending all your cheap project funds on court matters.

Take a chill Son. Be humble. As a client never see your self as a god and mighty helper over an Artisan or contractor.

You both are doing each other a favor.
if you had lost your #8M funds to a contractor like n3xt, then you would understand how much of a favor a reliable contractor is doing you.

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Kentucky404:
Hian, The sound of arrogance in your words. Honestly you sound very silly. the profit from your #8M job might not be more than #150K majority is meant for materials. He offered you a service and you paid for the service, if you think you are doing him a favor then his also doing you a favor by offering his service to a very cheap and despicable client like you.
I have given out contracts worth over #560M in just two months. Be humble. Any Nigerian Artisan will go through hell dealing with your kind.
I bet in your entire lifetime that you have never met a standard company that would refund your money and even sue you, at the middle of your cheap project just because you talk down on their worker and end up spending all your cheap project funds on court matters.

Take a chill Son. Be humble. As a client never see your self as a god and mighty helper over an Artisan or contractor.

You both are doing each other a favor.
if you had lost your #8M funds to a contractor like n3xt, then you would understand how much of a favor a reliable contractor is doing you.

When did stating what transpired with facts and figures become arrogance?
I don believe you would have had any issues if I said I managed the #4000 standard roof sheet on my project. That would be me, being humble.

Your last paragraph ended up supporting my initial stance. That I am doing the vendor favor.. what difference does it make when you say it and when I say it?

I am not the mouthpiece of the vendor/s to say how they feel about the job they are doing.
Just in case you did not hear me right that first time,, let say it again. Any business that I patronize, I am doing them a favor.

And you are wrong. No standard company would refund a client payment for saying that he did them a favor.
Most if no all cooperate entities have customers compliant and appreciations portals/ box. They want to hear what their customers have to say, whether good or bad.
It seems you are separated reality, almost all cooperate business would support a customer as against their own staff when it comes to service delivery. Even if the customer tends to wrong, as long as he is not destructive.

Talking about court. I challenge you to show me one statement that I have made regarding this issue that has any legal implications , whether they are true or false.

twinskenny:
lol chief this is totally different! People you mentioned above will recieve payment at the end of the day right?

I think he is right however the 9ja mentality always come into play for fear of losing a Job and going home empty. Even FG of Nigeria only pay mobilisation once contract has been awarded. There are times where clients has paid Transport and workman went AWOL so the question is, what's best practice?

Kentucky404:
Hian, The sound of arrogance in your words. Honestly you sound very silly. the profit from your #8M job might not be more than #150K majority is meant for materials. He offered you a service and you paid for the service, if you think you are doing him a favor then his also doing you a favor by offering his service to a very cheap and despicable client like you.
I have given out contracts worth over #560M in just two months. Be humble. Any Nigerian Artisan will go through hell dealing with your kind.
I bet in your entire lifetime that you have never met a standard company that would refund your money and even sue you, at the middle of your cheap project just because you talk down on their worker and end up spending all your cheap project funds on court matters.

Take a chill Son. Be humble. As a client never see your self as a god and mighty helper over an Artisan or contractor.

You both are doing each other a favor.
if you had lost your #8M funds to a contractor like n3xt, then you would understand how much of a favor a reliable contractor is doing you.

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erico2k2:
I think he is right however the 9ja mentality always come into play for fear of losing a Job and going home empty. Even FG of Nigeria only pay mobilisation once contract has been awarded. There are times where clients has paid Transport and workman went AWOLSo the question is, what's best practice?

If I told you how much I had to spend to get contracts, travels, several times, running 30 day proof of concept, calls, bringing my team to the site without even being sure of a deal.

So like I said before Sonnie is right. But for certain people, he is wrong because they operate outside the enterprise deal circle (B2B). They deal in the B2C market in which different rules may apply.

FG, state governments and even companies do not as a rule pay in advance of signing the contract.

Until the dotted line is signed, you are spending your own money!

As a matter of fact, some have started sending a letter with the words: " Non-Obligatory Proof of Concept/Demonstration" when they invite you to come for the discussion.

These stories remind me of a guy who flew in state of the art Ricoh machines to NNPC to demonstrate and then NNPC did not end up buying.

This guy was literally in tears and reached out to me to help him sell them.

If you do enterprise deals, you will understand that even the decision to buy can take months or years, but then at the end, the deal is usually a very big one, so his ask was an impossible to fulfil one.

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FEGEITOK:
If I told you how much I had to spend to get contracts, travels, several times, running 30 day proof of concept, calls, bringing my team to the site without even being sure of a deal.

So like I said before Sonnie is right. But for certain people, he is wrong because they operate outside the enterprise deal circle (B2B). They deal in the B2C market in which different rules may apply.

FG, state governments and even companies do not as a rule pay in advance of signing the contract.

Until the dotted line is signed, you are spending your own money!

As a matter of fact, some have started sending a letter with the words: " Non-Obligatory Proof of Concept/Demonstration" when they invite you to come for the discussion.

These stories remind me of a guy who flew in state of the art Ricoh machines to NNPC to demonstrate and then NNPC did not end up buying.

This guy was literally in tears and reached out to me to help him sell them.

If you do enterprise deals, you will understand that even the decision to buy can take months or years, but then at the end, the deal is usually a very big one, so his ask was an impossible to fulfil one.

Let me give you a story close home to me. My younger brother here in the states has two 18 wheelers. Each is mounted with a CT and MRI equipment. They service hospitals and other facilities.
Many times, they would drive with that equipment to the facility, sometimes for over an hour, Only for the patient to refuse.

The law is that patient has the right to refuse any treatment even for no reason. You cannot tell who would refuse before hand.
Secondly, they cannot bill insurance for a service they did not perform . That would be the end of that business plus jail time.

In those instances, the return with nothing. It is cost of doing business. A technologist is paid $40-50 per hour , the truck driver is paid almost the same. Multiply this by about 3 hour they spend on such trip.

Being a service provider, they are careful not to lose the client because sometimes, on a single day trip they could perform exams on more than 10 patients at $500 each x 10.

FEGEITOK:
If I told you how much I had to spend to get contracts, travels, several times, running 30 day proof of concept, calls, bringing my team to the site without even being sure of a deal.

So like I said before Sonnie is right. But for certain people, he is wrong because they operate outside the enterprise deal circle (B2B). They deal in the B2C market in which different rules may apply.

FG, state governments and even companies do not as a rule pay in advance of signing the contract.

Until the dotted line is signed, you are spending your own money!

As a matter of fact, some have started sending a letter with the words: " Non-Obligatory Proof of Concept/Demonstration" when they invite you to come for the discussion.

These stories remind me of a guy who flew in state of the art Ricoh machines to NNPC to demonstrate and then NNPC did not end up buying.

This guy was literally in tears and reached out to me to help him sell them.

If you do enterprise deals, you will understand that even the decision to buy can take months or years, but then at the end, the deal is usually a very big one, so his ask was an impossible to fulfil one.

To the Bolded I do, however I do it in the west hence I said in the 9ja context, no company or persons in the west will pay you transport money for you to come give estimates or demonstration. Then again, we post our jobs as adverts and if you chose to give a quote and asked to come execute the job, means of transport is up to you. It is assumed your T fare is amongst your billed cost.
Im short form, if I come in Nairaland to say I want to do a specific door and my house is in Sambasi forest and you in Lagos says you want to do the job and we agree on your price I would assume the T-fare is inclusive what do you recon?

sonnie10:
Let me give you a story close home to me. My younger brother here in the states has two 18 wheelers. Each is mounted with a CT and MRI equipment. They service hospitals and other facilities.
Many times, they would drive with that equipment to the facility, sometimes for over an hour, Only for the patient to refuse.

The law is that patient has the right to refuse any treatment even for no reason. You cannot tell who would refuse before hand.
Secondly, they cannot bill insurance for a service they did not perform . That would be the end of that business plus jail time.

In those instances, the return with nothing. It is cost of doing business. A technologist is paid $40-50 per hour , the truck driver is paid almost the same. Multiply this by about 3 hour they spend on such trip.

Being a service provider, they are careful not to lose the client because sometimes, on a single day trip they could perform exams on more than 10 patients at $500 each x 10.

Fact What I also see here is people being workmen only instead of treating it as Business.

erico2k2:
Fact What I also see here is people being workmen only instead of treating it as Business.

Our people are bent in their own ways, difficult to adapt and create solutions.

erico2k2:
To the Bolded I do, however I do it in the west hence I said in the 9ja context, no company or persons in the west will pay you transport money for you to come give estimates or demonstration. Then again, we post our jobs as adverts and if you chose to give a quote and asked to come execute the job, means of transport is up to you. It is assumed your T fare is amongst your billed cost.
Im short form, if I come in Nairaland to say I want to do a specific door and my house is in Sambasi forest and you in Lagos says you want to do the job and we agree on your price I would assume the T-fare is inclusive what do you recon?

No. To get quotes form say 4 different people, you must provide them each with #25k x 4 = #100k. Because you pluck money from trees.
That means I don’t even have to be an artisan to be rich.
All the person would need to do is advertise lower price for any service, collect #25k for transportation, get there by any cheap means, save greater percentage of that money, give you any quote and when it comes time for service, they tell you sorry, we are fully booked.
Then go back and repeat.

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Gasayi:
Please I have this algae on my stone coated roof. It too much. What is the cause of it?
I am trying to upload the picture because it not working.

Where are you located. I can help you inspect it and give a quote. My transport fare is #25k only. Thanks.

A lot of chest beating in this thread. Make wuna rest abeg.


Clients and artisan get levels. The amount being debated may not even matter to some clients or artisans but in whatever strata you find yourself, just understand that life comes with some unwritten rules. Kindness, consideration and empathy should be applied appropriate as we deal with our fellow humans.

A lot of clients have gotten information given to them here free of charge by good spirited individuals. Nobody charged them. Some ended up getting jobs because this singular kindnesses.

Standard and quality comes at a slight cost.
Don't hang your bag where your hand no reach.


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Person drop his TERMS nd CONDITION you are there nagging
Giving different scenario wey no get head

Time is money(not everyone follow it thou)
The information you are getting free of charge..it's another person mode of bussiness.
Some people charge for consultation fee.....either what they told u works for you or not....bussiness continue ni
It's your choice to either comply or neglect
Just mak ur choice and don't condemn

How is stating what transpire and the vendor”s terms and conditions for others to be aware of an issue? I don’t get it.
Even the vendor doesn’t have problems stating it publicly that he does that.

How is this the clients problem?

It is the client problem because he felt the vendor was arrogant for demanding for transportation fee payment upfront base on what has been his T/C

Below is also an answer to the question .....lol

Abbeyb1ack:
It is the client problem because he felt the vendor was arrogant for demanding for transportation fee payment upfront base on what has been his T/C

Below is also an answer to the question .....lol

An entitlement is something that is demanded by law. A right, an amount that someone is inherently privileged to get.
The #25k was not his right.

Did you pay?

Abbeyb1ack:
Did you pay?

I don’t pay ransom.

Does anyone have the number of a professional tiler in Ibadan?

Also, how much per square metre?

I believe you didn't pay just because you disagree with his Terms

But are you aware some client paid and they never see it as an issue

It's not your right to draft a T/c for a company just to suit ur own interest as a client....

It doesn't work like that

Moreover I believe the vendor didn't complain when you made your choice of not accepting to pay.

So pls just move on

sethtsadopp:
Please can anyone help me check these prices of Plumbering materials. I bought PPR for 2600 or so last year, this one this person is quoting 3800,has it gone that high? And the other materials too.

It will be somehow difficult to say whether the prices are high becos your location is unknown. Location atimes affect the price of materials . Also bear it mind that the rate you bought it last year will be different from this year.