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Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by ganisucks(f): 7:22pm On Apr 15, 2023
Hedonini:


Can't believe you're still talking about any impotent cabal.

If there was any serious cabal, they would have prevented him from getting the APC ticket in the first place. Or worst case, they could have thwarted his rigging and simply allowed actual votes to count.

Nothing like cabal. If anything, the 'cabal' helped the thief to steal the fake mandate.

Wait and see. I have always maintained that Baba lagos is like a bull in a china shop. The cabal needs to be very careful in removing him from the shop. Or are you ready to spend your formative years hiding in the Bush, while trying to pick out opposing forces,with your AK47, in a civil war. Did you not hear the kind of language the Baba blue used in expressing the level of carnage he is prepared to unleash on the country, if he is not allowed to be president.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by StOla: 7:26pm On Apr 15, 2023
Very simple.

There is a lot of anti-government sentiment in Abuja.

LP and Obi also sold themselves as the messiah.

Lastly, Religious warfare as deployed by Obi campaign was effective in Abuja among the Christian indigenes and migrants.

So evidently it became a stronghold of LP just like the SouthEast.

Alas, not enough for Obi to win like Tinubu who had a more national appeal across a broader geography.

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Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by paramakina202: 7:33pm On Apr 15, 2023
Jorussia:
In ur shallow mind u think its not easy to rig the elections in FCT?

If it was easy for INEC they would have at least dash him over 25% in Abuja.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Kabirudeen25(m): 7:37pm On Apr 15, 2023
Hedonini:


Most people have been preoccupied with the mental gymnastics of whether or not the constitution makes getting 25% in Abuja a must. The more important and overlooked question is how somebody can claim to have won the National election but couldn't even get a quarter of the votes in Abuja. Nobody said he should win Abuja o, o get even half of the votes o. Just a quarter of the votes. It is unprecedented and it raises serious, logical doubts. Only his paid miscreants and ethnic supporters would make stupid excuses to wave off this serious question.

I even think this is something that must be factored into the court case. The tribunal needs to factor this into their ruling. When interpreting laws, it is important to look at the robust spirit of the law rather than the mere letters of the law. Law was made for man and not man for the law. Common sense needs to prevail.
You are very correct dude
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Nobody: 7:44pm On Apr 15, 2023
Hedonini:
This is a very important question. Tinubu claimed to have gotten substantial votes from the north, the South West and the South South.

Abuja is the true capital of Nigeria, where all the major and minor ethnic groups are heavily represented. So really, Abuja is the truest microcosm of Nigeria.

If someone claimed to have won a nationwide election in Nigeria, why couldn't he get ordinary 25% in Abuja? What is the sensible and logical explanation for that?

Twist it however you want. Ultimately, and commonsensically, Abuja is not special as an electoral jurisdiction.

Nigerians voted there, as is the case with other States, not special men and women deserving special status. Is Abuja, as an example, more cosmopolitan than Lagos or more socio-economically important to our Nation than Lagos?

Why is Lagos not then claiming special status for her voters despite being the Premier socio-economic destination in Nigeria by far?

The FCT 25% noise is just another predictable null and void consideration, like Tinubu's "drug lord" status, only desperados retain hope in.

Accept your incoming President, stop the childish idiocy, and position yourself for a better life by focusing on the policies he will introduce and how you can personally use such to elevate yourself and those around you.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by SpecialAdviser(m): 7:50pm On Apr 15, 2023
Softmirror:


HE DIDN'T WIN LAGOS TOO. END OF STORY.
He cannot win anywhere its difficult to rig
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Nobody: 7:50pm On Apr 15, 2023
Hedonini:


Most people have been preoccupied with the mental gymnastics of whether or not the constitution makes getting 25% in Abuja a must. The more important and overlooked question is how somebody can claim to have won the National election but couldn't even get a quarter of the votes in Abuja. Nobody said he should win Abuja o, o get even half of the votes o. Just a quarter of the votes. It is unprecedented and it raises serious, logical doubts. Only his paid miscreants and ethnic supporters would make stupid excuses to wave off this serious question.

I even think this is something that must be factored into the court case. The tribunal needs to factor this into their ruling. When interpreting laws, it is important to look at the robust spirit of the law rather than the mere letters of the law. Law was made for man and not man for the law. Common sense needs to prevail.

The ridiculous and inane argument of clearly bigoted and prejudiced desperados. States have peculiar dynamics.

Tinubu did not even make 5% in some SE States so what exactly is your point, insisting he must then get 25% of Abuja votes, if you're not driven by redundant desperation that will always bring us back to the starting point of claiming Abuja voters are somehow more special and important than other Nigerians in other States?

In how many instances have you seen the law uphold prejudice, favouritism and the discriminatory practice of elevating certain human beings above others?

There is no one worse in life than those whose thinking will always be compromised by prejudice and sentiments.

The Abuja 25% bullcrap does not stand any chance of being validated even if you anti-Tinubu desperado want to make it your hooe for last minute reprieve.

Grow up and move on.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Mathantics: 7:51pm On Apr 15, 2023
Jorussia:
The answer is simple religion is the major cause of his inability to get 25% in FCT.The Christians in Abuja who are d majority overwhelmingly voted for peter obi.BAT and Atiku shared the votes of Muslims, hence d inability of either of them to 25%.

So Christians are minority in Rivers, Bayelsa, AkwaIbom and Benue?

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Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Nobody: 8:32pm On Apr 15, 2023
Jorussia:
The answer is simple religion is the major cause of his inability to get 25% in FCT.The Christians in Abuja who are d majority overwhelmingly voted for peter obi.BAT and Atiku shared the votes of Muslims, hence d inability of either of them to 25%.
What then happens to the Christians in Rivers and Cross River?

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Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Bringbackmandat: 8:44pm On Apr 15, 2023
Because people don't like the drug Barron. Even with the rigging in rivers state tinubu cannot get up to 10 million votes. No president has ever won an election as the president of federal republic of Nigeria with only 8 million votes.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by DatNiggaDaz: 8:47pm On Apr 15, 2023
Because Mahmud told him that 25% in Abuja is inconsequential in order to collect the remaining 50% rigging bullion vans from Tinubugrin
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Bringbackmandat: 8:48pm On Apr 15, 2023
Jorussia:
The answer is simple religion is the major cause of his inability to get 25% in FCT.The Christians in Abuja who are d majority overwhelmingly voted for peter obi.BAT and Atiku shared the votes of Muslims, hence d inability of either of them to 25%.
this is the division tinubu is bringing to this country. I said it and I will say it again. The Muslim Muslim ticket is here to divide the country.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Ogene001: 9:03pm On Apr 15, 2023
Hedonini:
This is a very important question. Tinubu claimed to have gotten substantial votes from the north, the South West and the South South.

Abuja is the true capital of Nigeria, where all the major and minor ethnic groups are heavily represented. So really, Abuja is the truest microcosm of Nigeria.

If someone claimed to have won a nationwide election in Nigeria, why couldn't he get ordinary 25% in Abuja? What is the sensible and logical explanation for that?
Northern governors wrote fake results for him including some southern governors like Wike, unfortunately, Abuja has no governor
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by 234daniel2010(m): 9:10pm On Apr 15, 2023
Jorussia:
Don't bother replying them.That presidential elections is the best in this country since 1993.Wetin my eye see for Benin city where i voted,i was shocked because nobody shared money to induce voters.I

Was their cash in circulation during the presidential election?

They took attention away from Abuja because of its small population and focused their energy on other poor states they can easily influence.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by jude79(m): 9:22pm On Apr 15, 2023
Jorussia:
In ur shallow mind u think its not easy to rig the elections in FCT?


Well he didn't get 25% in all the polling units located in military barracks located all over the country, that says a lot. Locations that are difficult for touts to influence.

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Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Femmyfamous4u(m): 9:23pm On Apr 15, 2023
Hedonini:
This is a very important question. Tinubu claimed to have gotten substantial votes from the north, the South West and the South South.

Abuja is the true capital of Nigeria, where all the major and minor ethnic groups are heavily represented. So really, Abuja is the truest microcosm of Nigeria.

If someone claimed to have won a nationwide election in Nigeria, why couldn't he get ordinary 25% in Abuja? What is the sensible and logical explanation for that?

We arw you saying? Must he win all the states? All the top three candidates failed to win 24 percent in many other states . What's special in FCT?
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by OneCandleAway(f): 9:27pm On Apr 15, 2023
OneTemplate:


Twist it however you want. Ultimately, and commonsensically, Abuja is not special as an electoral jurisdiction.

Nigerians voted there, as is the case with other States, not special men and women deserving special status. Is Abuja, as an example, more cosmopolitan than Lagos or more socio-economically important to our Nation than Lagos?

Why is Lagos not then claiming special status for her voters despite being the Premier socio-economic destination in Nigeria by far?

The FCT 25% noise is just another predictable null and void consideration, like Tinubu's "drug lord" status, only desperados retain hope in.

Accept your incoming President, stop the childish idiocy, and position yourself for a better life by focusing on the policies he will introduce and how you can personally use such to elevate yourself and those around you.

Actually Lagos is trying to claim special status due to its impact in Nigeria. Google it. Remi tinubu trued to push a bill on that.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Nobody: 9:44pm On Apr 15, 2023
OneCandleAway:


Actually Lagos is trying to claim special status due to its impact in Nigeria. Google it. Remi tinubu trued to push a bill on that.

Lagos is seeking socio-economic special status not electoral superiority.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by vicdom(m): 9:44pm On Apr 15, 2023
Jorussia:
The answer is simple religion is the major cause of his inability to get 25% in FCT.The Christians in Abuja who are d majority overwhelmingly voted for peter obi.BAT and Atiku shared the votes of Muslims, hence d inability of either of them to 25%.
You are talking rubbish! Christians are more dominant in C. Rivers, Akwaibom, Benue, Platue, Ekiti, Ondo, Rivers, than they are in Abuja, yet he got more than 25% in those states. So how come he couldn't get it in Abuja? If you had said it's because of high concentration of elites and highly urbanized, you would have made sense, so why claiming it's religion?? Elites will always prefer to vote obi than Tinubu, that's just the bitter truth there. Just look at where Obi won in Lagos, they are all elites dominated areas.

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Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Shifi1: 9:57pm On Apr 15, 2023
StOla:
Very simple.

There is a lot of anti-government sentiment in Abuja.

LP and Obi also sold themselves as the messiah.

Lastly, Religious warfare as deployed by Obi campaign was effective in Abuja among the Christian indigenes and migrants.

So evidently it became a stronghold of LP just like the SouthEast.

Alas, not enough for Obi to win like Tinubu who had a more national appeal across a broader geography.
Broader rigging..Governors influence help him..
Example wike..Apc can never win rivers state without rigging

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Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by oluwasunkanmi97(m): 10:27pm On Apr 15, 2023
Nawa ooooo....

Long before the Presidential and NASS elections, it was said that for a candidate to be declared winner of the election;

1. He must have the highest number of votes cast and;

2. He must get up to one-quarter of the total votes cast i.e 25% of total votes cast in at least 2/3 of the 36 states of the federation and the FCT.

Now about number 2, long before now, personally, it sounded like if a candidate is to
be declared winner of the election, if he wins 25+ states out of 36 and didn't win the FCT, despite having the highest number of votes will not be declared winner and in that case, a rerun will take place.


I'm sure if we had looked into this 25% in FCT issue before the elections, we all would have agreed with the bolded.
Elections are now over and Elementary English has turned to Advanced Physics.

By the way, since 1999, as far as we know, there was never a time(bar 2007 cause the results of the time were kind of undisclosed) where sitting presidents never got up to 25% in the FCT.

Mind you Buhari did not win FCT in 2015 and 2019 but he met the 25% mark.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Nobody: 10:31pm On Apr 15, 2023
Femmyfamous4u:


We arw you saying? Must he win all the states? All the top three candidates failed to win 24 percent in many other states . What's special in FCT?

I don't like stupid questions. If you passed English in your WAEC without 'expo', then you should have reasonable understanding of comprehension. What is special about Abuja is EXPLICITLY stated in the main post. Read again carefully, and then attempt to respond again.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Nobody: 10:35pm On Apr 15, 2023
vicdom:

You are talking rubbish! Christians are more dominant in C. Rivers, Akwaibom, Benue, Platue, Ekiti, Ondo, Rivers, than they are in Abuja, yet he got more than 25% in those states. So how come he couldn't get it in Abuja? If you had said it's because of high concentration of elites and highly urbanized, you would have made sense, so why claiming it's religion?? Elites will always prefer to vote obi than Tinubu, that's just the bitter truth there. Just look at where Obi won in Lagos, they are all elites dominated areas.

I stated earlier that only Tinubu/APC miscreants or tribal sympathisers would ever attempt to answer this thread with idiotic logic... Because there is no reasonable logic to explain why somebody can claim to win a presidential election in Nigeria without getting 25% of the vote in the Federal Capital Territory which is Nigeria's melting pot where all ethnic groups are heavily and almost equally represented. It simply doesn't make sense.

In a country where judicial officers are thinking and rational beings, this is enough evidence to show that Tinubu simply didn't win the election freely and fairly. It is enough ground to toss the mandate thief into the trash can.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Nobody: 10:44pm On Apr 15, 2023
jude79:



Well he didn't get 25% in all the polling units located in military barracks located all over the country, that says a lot. Locations that are difficult for touts to influence.

This is interesting. I don't have the data or facts. If you do, can you start a thread about this?

I mean if we can't get concrete evidence, then we should use anecdotal/ circumstantial/ commonsense evidence, to broaden and deepen our jurisprudence.

If the mandate thief who claims he won a national election actually couldn't get 25% of the votes in most military barracks or similar secure locations nationwide, then that tells us all something. We should factor in these kinds of commonsense evidence.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Femmyfamous4u(m): 10:57pm On Apr 15, 2023
Hedonini:


I don't like stupid questions. If you passed English in your WAEC without 'expo', then you should have reasonable understanding of comprehension. What is special about Abuja is EXPLICITLY stated in the main post. Read again carefully, and then attempt to respond again.

All what is stated in the post is hogwash and arrant nonsense. Lagos is more representative of Nigeria than Abuja and there is nothing like that. Enough of these nonsense posts. Wait till the court pronouncement and stop disturbing the peace.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Obakoolex(m): 10:59pm On Apr 15, 2023
lhordspy:
BUT Obidient claim Nigerians are in support of Peter Obi.

Why couldn't he get 25% in 5 out of 6 Southwestern state.

Almost no vote atall in the entire Northwest and NorthEast.

Unknown in Kogi, Niger, Kwara in Northcentral. Couldnt even make 10%, talkmore of 25%.


Since 'Nigerians' are angry he lost according to you guys. Are the people from Southwest, Northwest, Northeast, Northcentral ( Kogi, Niger, Kwara) from Lake chad ?


🤣🤣🤣🤣 This really crack me up
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by KanwuliaExtra: 11:01pm On Apr 15, 2023
They don't want 'Agbado' king pin to rule them.
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by 00FFT00(m): 12:17am On Apr 16, 2023
Ireportlive:
cool



Abuja is not an indegeneous settlement or state the settlement in Abuja are mostly satellite towns of the Gbagi people

Abuja became a booming city with settlers moving in 30 years ago

Babangida and his cronies allocated Abuja lands only to their cronies, and only their goons got Abuja civil service jobs

Abacha , Abdulsalam and Obasanjo all allocated lands , jobs and resources only to their friends and loyalist.

So Abuja is Traditionally a Military/ PDP populated state

How will Tinubu win in Asokoro, where most houses and mansion are owned by PDP loyalist


.

I've said that most of you are senseless. If the same PDP you claimed inhabits most of Abuja, how come they also failed to make the 25% mark?. Nigerians don't trust Tinubu and it is evident.

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Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Isobug: 5:19am On Apr 16, 2023
Hedonini:
This is a very important question. Tinubu claimed to have gotten substantial votes from the north, the South West and the South South.

Abuja is the true capital of Nigeria, where all the major and minor ethnic groups are heavily represented. So really, Abuja is the truest microcosm of Nigeria.

If someone claimed to have won a nationwide election in Nigeria, why couldn't he get ordinary 25% in Abuja? What is the sensible and logical explanation for that?
Because there was no Governor there to rigg for him as usual.
Governors are the killers of Nigeria's democracy
Re: But Why Couldn't Tinubu Get Up To 25% In Abuja? by Nobody: 5:28am On Apr 16, 2023
Femmyfamous4u:


All what is stated in the post is hogwash and arrant nonsense. Lagos is more representative of Nigeria than Abuja and there is nothing like that. Enough of these nonsense posts. Wait till the court pronouncement and stop disturbing the peace.

Throwing words like hogwash around doesn't prove that you are sensible. Lagos is more representative than what? So that Yoruba ethnic militants would come out and shout themselves hoarse that Lagos is Yoruba land, that others should "go and vote in Anambra", bla bla. So Lagos is only "representative" when it suits your purpose?

Abuja is the only truly representative microcosm of Nigeria because no one can claim any stupid ethnic 'ownership' of the territory, not even the aboriginal Gbagyi people. It is the only truly and constitutionally designated 'no man's land'. Everyone is heavily and rightfully represented there. If you claim to have won a national election but couldn't get a quarter of the votes in Abuja, then you're deceiving yourself.

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