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Flanker:
RSF taking kharthoum airpory with 05 egyptian Mig29 M and arresting egyptian personnel

UAE, Russia/Wagner, China, Iran, Egypt, Chad, Saudi all have a horse in this mess. This has potential to be a spectacular balls-up!

Video of egyptian soldiers arrested in sudanese marwa airport

https://youtube.com/shorts/awnSK-4UqOs?feature=share

Flanker:
RSF taking kharthoum airpory with 05 egyptian Mig29 M and arresting egyptian personnel

WTF...

There's always that guy who instantly creates a Wiki page of such events, puts in all the proper citations... respect to such guys

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Sudanese_Armed_Forces-Rapid_Support_Forces_confrontation 👌

Lurker4Long:
Meanwhile, in the DRC.

Before becoming an SAAF pilot where he's now an instructor, this Lt Col was a SAN submariner!

Meanwhile algerian Chief of Staff seeing indian BVR missiles for our sukhoi 30 MKI fleet

GreenandGold:
There's always that guy who instantly creates a Wiki page of such events, puts in all the proper citations... respect to such guys

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Sudanese_Armed_Forces-Rapid_Support_Forces_confrontation 👌

I don't see the RSF winning this anymore. Once the element of surprise is gone, the guy with access to the government purse takes the prize.

Brace up.

Faithful007:
I don't see the RSF winning this anymore. Once the element of surprise is gone, the guy with access to the government purse takes the prize.

True that... as long as the "government" soldiers know that the president and the ministers have not changed, they'll fight to keep their salaries.

Sukhoi 30 MKA with KAB-500KR (electro-optical TV-guided fire and forget bomb)

Stargate254:
But an aljazeera reporter referenced that at one point the EU supported the RSF as part of a program to stop migrants from crossing through Sudan on their way to Europe

BORDER CONTROL FROM HELL
The research paper was written by reliefweb https://reliefweb.int/report/sudan/border-control-hell-how-eus-migration-partnership-legitimizes-sudans-militia-state

https://reliefweb.int/attachments/0e6a1270-481d-36d1-9e28-7b81460125a9/BorderControl_April2017_Enough_Finals.pdf




This part especially
By “building the capacity” of Sudan’s newly minted border force with funding and training, the EU would not only be strengthening the hand of the RSF but also could find itself underwriting a complex system of a “militia state” that Sudan has evolved into since the current regime came to power in 1989


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I'm not trying to defend Russia here, I guess I'm experiencing some king of Dejavu based on a journal I was reading a couple of weeks ago, of what happened in Afghanistan with Russia and US involvement and what eventually led to the rise on war on Terror on a scale never seen before in the world... I think in a place where both Russia and US/NATO is involved, nothing good will come of it, it doesn't matter who is on the right side... There is a Swahili saying that basically translates to, "Two bulls cannot stay/live in the same barn"

Leave them, they are doing the blaming game. Purely blame Egypt here, can't even handle her region well. Eritea, Ethiopia and Sudan been in messes lately

Faithful007:
Brace up.

That us leak smells fishy, probably a psy-ops by pentagon.

davefurn:
Leave them, they are doing the blaming game. Purely blame Egypt here, can't even handle her region well. Eritea, Ethiopia and Sudan been in messes lately

Eritiea is Russia's strongest Ally in Africa and Wagner's main base. You know what else, Eritiea supports RSF in Sudan and the TPLF. Two elements that have led to two wars under two years.
Russia's ambassador was complaining that the Sudanese army does not want to negotiate with the RSF. Why is he so bothered about the fate of the RSF?

Now I'm not saying Russia even supported the TPLF or did not. The thing with these wars is that the attitude of blaming foreign countries is a cowardly act. No country has a moral obligation to intervene in civil disputes in another country.

Secondly it is usually 95% the fault of the local belligerents that there is a war and foriegn countries are involved. These countries are usually very divided within. So to gain the military upper hand, these factions then go ahead to lobby and invite powerful countries with incentives such as military bases ( in the case of RSF and Russia) or a commitment to fight ISIS ( like in the case of the US and Syrian rebels). You wouldn't see external factors if there is no form of deal/agreement between a local faction and the foreign country.

I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that the political influence of Russia in Sudan is also a factor and were it to be the US, all hell would break loose on the internet.

davefurn:
That us leak smells fishy, probably a psy-ops by pentagon.

It is legitimate. US State Dept said it even before the leak occurred and this is what BF had to say....

How do you know the difference between Wagner group and Russian Instructors?

Tank v Tank. Seems Russia has been able to sort itself out and take the war seriously


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06JAvitTIsA

The Nigerian Air Force says the Federal Government is working towards taking delivery of the 12 AH-1Z cobra attack helicopters being procured from the United States. The Federal Government had paid about $1bn for the helicopters to combat insecurity.

The spokesperson for NAF, Commodore Ayodele Famuyiwa, told our correspondent in a telephone interview on Thursday that the equipment would assist the military in fighting insecurity.

https://punchng.com/fg-awaiting-delivery-of-attack-helicopters-air-force/

iblawi:
The Nigerian Air Force says the Federal Government is working towards taking delivery of the 12 AH-1Z cobra attack helicopters being procured from the United States. The Federal Government had paid about $1bn for the helicopters to combat insecurity.

The spokesperson for NAF, Commodore Ayodele Famuyiwa, told our correspondent in a telephone interview on Thursday that the equipment would assist the military in fighting insecurity.

https://punchng.com/fg-awaiting-delivery-of-attack-helicopters-air-force/

Ohh so the Nigerian govt is still striving to get them despite the army been falsely accused of human rights violations and carrying out forced abortion campaigns ?? What a shame...

Flanker:
RSF taking kharthoum airpory with 05 egyptian Mig29 M and arresting egyptian personnel

Egypt is definitely not going to like this. All hell is going to let loose if this is not handled properly.

Faithful007:
It is legitimate. US State Dept said it even before the leak occurred and this is what BF had to say....

How do you know the difference between Wagner group and Russian Instructors?

When assange and the wiki leaks released theirs... They denied it with all their power. Pure psy-ops, even the guy in question that led the leak; how's someone of his stature and level able to get his hands on documents of that value......

GreenandGold:
There's always that guy who instantly creates a Wiki page of such events, puts in all the proper citations... respect to such guys

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Sudanese_Armed_Forces-Rapid_Support_Forces_confrontation 👌

#Sudan 🇸🇩 MAP: The *approximate* situation in Sudan as of 22:00 on 16/04/2023.

Note that the situation is still very fluid and this map is only an indication of the approximate territorial balance of power across the country.

Faithful007:
Eritiea is Russia's strongest Ally in Africa and Wagner's main base. You know what else, Eritiea supports RSF in Sudan and the TPLF. Two elements that have led to two wars under two years.
Russia's ambassador was complaining that the Sudanese army does not want to negotiate with the RSF. Why is he so bothered about the fate of the RSF?

Now I'm not saying Russia even supported the TPLF or did not. The thing with these wars is that the attitude of blaming foreign countries is a cowardly act. No country has a moral obligation to intervene in civil disputes in another country.

Secondly it is usually 95% the fault of the local belligerents that there is a war and foriegn countries are involved. These countries are usually very divided within. So to gain the military upper hand, these factions then go ahead to lobby and invite powerful countries with incentives such as military bases ( in the case of RSF and Russia) or a commitment to fight ISIS ( like in the case of the US and Syrian rebels). You wouldn't see external factors if there is no form of deal/agreement between a local faction and the foreign country.

I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that the political influence of Russia in Sudan is also a factor and were it to be the US, all hell would break loose on the internet.

On Wagner, that Prizogin guy smells like pure evil. Though his PMC has proved their capabilities. Great usa scared of a PMC influence. But I get your point

We have every right to practise an independent foreign policy. And there are consequences.
The fvcking idiots in the ANC are still fighting 1980s ideological battles, and crafting policy at odds with the national interest.

https://www.news24.com/news24/newsletters/icymi/featured/japan-invites-african-union-to-g7-excludes-south-africa-20230417-3

Lurker4Long:
We have every right to practise an independent foreign policy. And there are consequences.
The fvcking idiots in the ANC are still fighting 1980s ideological battles, and crafting policy at odds with the national interest.

https://www.news24.com/news24/newsletters/icymi/featured/japan-invites-african-union-to-g7-excludes-south-africa-20230417-3

The problem with the ANC exiles and their supporters is that they think backward. When they gather, they talk about their time in exile and how "Russia" supported their struggle. They cannot differentiate between their admiration for the Soviets and national interests. They have given up on growing the economy and started chowing whatever tax is being collected, what they don't know is that sooner or later. When the pawpaw hits the fan, they will turn to blame the "West" and their favourite propaganda term "white capitalist monopoly".

davefurn:
When assange and the wiki leaks released theirs... They denied it with all their power. Pure psy-ops, even the guy in question that led the leak; how's someone of his stature and level able to get his hands on documents of that value......

When did the US deny Wikileaks reports?

The guy who leaked the report had access to top secret classified documents. It's not too difficult to have such clearance so long as you work within intelligence, cyber etc. Clearance doesn't mean you get to see every document, but rather those relevant to your job.

Egypt aircraft destroyed

Shell hits Norwegian embassy

EU ambassador assaulted

RSF targets armored vehicles inside US embassy compound.

It's obvious these guys don't even know about Geneva, Vienna or any written statement about conflict. But the State Dept is waiting for the US embassy to be struck with tank rounds or even shelled before they start planning an evacuation.

It's also obvious this war won't end soon. Embassies should start getting the hell out before they're forced to participate in this silly war.

Read this to gain a history of international meddling and lobbying in Sudan. Written last year.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/15/russia-sudan-putin-east-africa-port-red-sea-naval-base-scuttled/

Exnavyboy62:
Egypt is definitely not going to like this. All hell is going to let loose if this is not handled properly.

They wouldn't do anything. They'll just ask for there soldiers and equipment back and then probably sanction Sudan.

Countries don't just jump into wars like that. This isn't the 20th century.

Exnavyboy62:
Egypt is definitely not going to like this. All hell is going to let loose if this is not handled properly.

According to reports, seems Egypt has ordered airstrikes on the planes and also Sudanese ftc 2000 captured by the RSF. They seem to be on the Government side.

Faithful007:
Egypt aircraft destroyed

Shell hits Norwegian embassy

EU ambassador assaulted

RSF targets armored vehicles inside US embassy compound.

It's obvious these guys don't even know about Geneva, Vienna or any written statement about conflict. But the State Dept is waiting for the US embassy to be struck with tank rounds or even shelled before they start planning an evacuation.

It's also obvious this war won't end soon. Embassies should start getting the hell out before they're forced to participate in this silly war.

The US should better be evacuating immediately if they don't want another Benghazi

Stormtrooper11:
The US should better be evacuating immediately if they don't want another Benghazi

The US won't leave unless they were directly attacked. US finds it very difficult to abandon their embassy. When Maduro asked the US embassy to close within 72 hours, staff stayed more than two months before leaving.