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Lukuluku69:
Lol

Don't tell me in all your wanderings on the internet, you have never heard about the Crusaders? You are joking right?

If you don't know truly, well I say you get busy then!

I asked you
Which instruction from God were they acting on?

At least you should be able to give some reference?

TenQ:
I asked you
Which instruction from God were they acting on?

At least you should be able to give some reference?

Read Numbers Chapter 31

Lukuluku69:
Lol

Which Law did God placed in their conscience? Christians and making up stories Sha.

The Revelation of God is not locked up in Israel alone! How is that hard for you Christians to come to term.with that? Every Nation at one time or the other had a Messenger lived amongst them!

I will give you and example you can relate with. Are you aware of the Magis? The Three Wisemen from the East? They were Persians and they have it in their Book as prophesized by their Prophet Zarathustra that a certain " Mercy to the World" is coming. Once he comes, they should leave everythi g and follow him as a Nation. Do some research and don't be pigeoned holed into "God of Israel" keyhole view about God! He is the God of ALL.

Well thanks but no thanks, I am a Muslim. I belong to the Nation (Ummah) PROMISED ISHMAEL

Please, show me at least two verses in your Quran where Mohammed gave you assurance of salvation.

And why are you convinced it was God who sent him?

Do we have more than one God or is there a deity impersonating the true God?

Ken4Christ:
Please, show me at least two verses in your Quran where Mohammed gave you assurance of salvation.

And why are you convinced it was God who sent him?

Do we have more than one God or is there a deity impersonating the true God?

Verses talking about Salvation are in their Tens if not hundred

As for Prophet Muhammad Mission and his Prophethood and Messengership, it is all over the Scriptures of the World but since you don't believe that there are other God inspired Scriptures, I will limit it to the Bible in your possession. The Bible foretold his Mission.

As for God being impersonated by another "God", ask your own conscience in a quiet corner the Justice in Inspiring ONLY Prophets from only Israel while others wandered in Error? How JUST is that God? The Creator of The Heavens and Earth leaving others to wander but chose only one Nation?

The fact of the case is that, that did not happen as we can see from every nook and cranny of the world through different cultures and civilizations that they all worshipped God.

Lukuluku69:
Verses talking about Salvation are in their Tens if not hundred

As for Prophet Muhammad Mission and his Prophethood and Messengership, it is all over the Scriptures of the World but since you don't believe that there are other God inspired Scriptures, I will limit it to the Bible in your possession. The Bible foretold his Mission.

As for God being impersonated by another "God", ask your own conscience in a quiet corner the Justice in Inspiring ONLY Prophets from only Israel while others wandered in Error? How JUST is that God? The Creator of The Heavens and Earth leaving others to wander but chose only one Nation?

The fact of the case is that, that did not happen as we can see from every nook and cranny of the world through different cultures and civilizations that they all worshipped God.

You didn't answer my questions. You say that there are hundreds of verse in your Quran that gives you assurance of salvation. Just quote only two. Thank you.

Ken4Christ:
You didn't answer my questions. You say that there are hundreds of verse in your Quran that gives you assurance of salvation. Just quote only two. Thank you.

Quran 5:9, 41:8, 19:96, 31:8, 2:177 etc

Lukuluku69:
Read Numbers Chapter 31

I am too sure this was the opening of Numbers 31 according to Islam from Lukuluku69

Num 31:1-2:
"And the LORD spoke to Moses, European Pope Benedict saying, Avenge the children of Israel Christians of the Midianites: Palestinians afterward shall you be gathered to your people."

This is where God spoke to the Europeans!?
You need Deliverance bro!

Lukuluku69:
Quran 5:9, 41:8, 19:96, 31:8, 2:177 etc

You should have quoted the full text. Well, I will check them and get back to you.

TenQ:
I am too sure this was the opening of Numbers 31 according to Islam from Lukuluku69

Num 31:1-2:
"And the LORD spoke to Moses, European Pope Benedict saying, Avenge the children of Israel Christians of the Midianites: Palestinians afterward shall you be gathered to your people."

This is where God spoke to the Europeans!?
You need Deliverance bro!

I know your ways. Since you can't defend Jehovah instructions in Numbers 31, the game is to deflect and The European Crusaders are the perfect fit.

Well, they were Christians and acted based on their Faith. They wanted the Holy Land back. The Land their man-god was strung up a pole and stripped, whipped and slapped back.

So, they acted based on that faith and the call was made by a certain Pope who was filled with the Holy Spirit. If it were a wrong thing, shebi the holy spook abides you you lots, why did it not call you back?

If there is any deliverance needed, you are in need of one because you are the one who can't come to terms with the fact that Jehovah instructed Moses to Annihilate Nations and People for his children to take position of a land. And in return, he was given sheep, cows and Virgin girls to share between him, his son and the holy spook

Ken4Christ:
You should have quoted the full text. Well, I will check them and get back to you.

Ask your Brother TENQ to help nah. And you can use Google too

Lukuluku69:
Quran 5:9, 41:8, 19:96, 31:8, 2:177 etc

None of the verses you quoted talked about salvation. They just mentioned reward and the rewards were not defined.

Please explain Quran 46:9 to me.

Lukuluku69:
Ask your Brother TENQ to help nah. And you can use Google too

I have gone through them. They said nothing about salvation.

Ken4Christ:
I have gone through them. They said nothing about salvation.

You missed the part " those who believe and work righteousness" then?

In Islam, you will be saved if you believe in God, obey His Eternal Commands and work righteousness. That is salvation.

Ken4Christ:
None of the verses you quoted talked about salvation. They just mentioned reward and the rewards were not defined.

Please explain Quran 46:9 to me.

46:9) Tell them: “I am not the first of the Messengers; and I do not know what shall be done with me or with you. I follow only what is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.”

Self explanatory.

The Prophet was commanded to tell his listeners that he was not the first to say what he has been saying (Worship God, obey His Commands, shun evil, do good etc) All Messengers in the past said the same thing.

" I do not know what shall be done to me or you" simply refers to the knowledge of the Future in this Life, on this earth and not the Life to come when everything has passed away.

And lastly, I am a warner. A Warner like those before him. To warn who? The Disbelievers in God the Creator, the evil doers etc. And warn them about what? The Punishment both in this world and the next.

The reward? Paradise!

Ken4Christ:
None of the verses you quoted talked about salvation. They just mentioned reward and the rewards were not defined.

Please explain Quran 46:9 to me.

) And no soul knows what has been hidden for them of comfort for eyes as reward for what they used to do. Holy Quran, 32:17

2) Verily, the dwellers of the Paradise, that Day, will be busy in joyful things. They and their wives will be in pleasant shade, reclining on thrones. They will have therein fruits (of all kinds) and all that they ask for. (It will be said to them): Salamun (peace be on you), a Word from the Lord (Allah), Most Merciful. Holy Quran, 36: 55-58

3) The description of Paradise which the Muttaqun (pious) have been promised is that in it are rivers of water the taste and smell of which are not changed; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine delicious to those who drink; and rivers of clarified honey (clear and pure) therein for them is every kind of fruit; and forgiveness from their Lord. Holy Quran, 47:15. It should be noted that the wine of paradise is not like the wine in this world. The wine of paradise does not intoxicate a person nor results in poor judgment.

4) Verily, The Muttaqun (pious), will be in the midst of Gardens and Rivers (Paradise). In a seat of truth (i.e. Paradise), near the Omnipotent King (Allah, the All-Blessed, the Most High, the Owner of Majesty and Honour). Holy Quran, 54:54-55

Lukuluku69:
I know your ways. Since you can't defend Jehovah instructions in Numbers 31, the game is to deflect and The European Crusaders are the perfect fit.

Well, they were Christians and acted based on their Faith. They wanted the Holy Land back. The Land their man-god was strung up a pole and stripped, whipped and slapped back.

So, they acted based on that faith and the call was made by a certain Pope who was filled with the Holy Spirit. If it were a wrong thing, shebi the holy spook abides you you lots, why did it not call you back?

If there is any deliverance needed, you are in need of one because you are the one who can't come to terms with the fact that Jehovah instructed Moses to Annihilate Nations and People for his children to take position of a land. And in return, he was given sheep, cows and Virgin girls to share between him, his son and the holy spook

Did you not say:

Lukuluku69:
You don't have to believe in Allah but once your territory falls within the Powers of Muslims, you pay the Tax. How hard is that?

Compared to Jehovah who instructed that Nations and Tribes must be massacred for his children to reach the promised land or his son Jesus who openly told his disciples that "those who would not allow his (Jesus) rule be brought forth and slaughtered"!

Was there any choices?

I asked you:

TenQ:
I asked you
Which instruction from God were they acting on?

At least you should be able to give some reference?

Your Response:

Lukuluku69:
Read Numbers Chapter 31

I have posted to you Numbers 31:1-2

Show me Jehovah's command to the Europeans or forever keep your mouth shut


I am too sure this was the opening of Numbers 31 according to Islam from Lukuluku69

Num 31:1-2:
"And the LORD spoke to Moses, European Pope Benedict saying, Avenge the children of Israel Christians of the Midianites: Palestinians afterward shall you be gathered to your people."

This is where God spoke to the Europeans!?
You need Deliverance bro!

Lukuluku69:
Quran 5:9, 41:8, 19:96, 31:8, 2:177 etc

Allah promised ALL Muslims that they'll enter the fire of hell, didn't he?

TenQ:
Allah promised ALL Muslims that they'll enter the fire of hell, didn't he?

Lol

Funny somebody.

Hell is for Wrong doers, those who reject Faith and not for Muslims.


The Muslims are promised Paradise, can't you read again ni?

See my post to your brother up their when it comes to the Muslims reward.

TenQ:
Did you not say:


I asked you:


Your Response:


I have posted to you Numbers 31:1-2

Show me Jehovah's command to the Europeans or forever keep your mouth shut


I am too sure this was the opening of Numbers 31 according to Islam from Lukuluku69

Num 31:1-2:
"And the LORD spoke to Moses, European Pope Benedict saying, Avenge the children of Israel Christians of the Midianites: Palestinians afterward shall you be gathered to your people."

This is where God spoke to the Europeans!?
You need Deliverance bro!

Keep going in Circle o and chasing your own tail. That's the problem with you, deflections, rigmarole, repeating meaningless drowns.

Your European Crusaders must have taken a cue from Numbers Chapter 31 for that was the exact thing they did when they went to retake the Holy Land their man-god was strung up, beating and stripped.

And I can see that you have limited yourself to posting just Two verses from Numbers 31, I can see that you are not too proud of your god instructions well, their are dozens of such in your Bible but you are too ashamed to publish it.

What possibly could Jehovah do with 32 Virgin Girls?

Lukuluku69:
46:9) Tell them: “I am not the first of the Messengers; and I do not know what shall be done with me or with you. I follow only what is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.”

Self explanatory.

The Prophet was commanded to tell his listeners that he was not the first to say what he has been saying (Worship God, obey His Commands, shun evil, do good etc) All Messengers in the past said the same thing.

" I do not know what shall be done to me or you" simply refers to the knowledge of the Future in this Life, on this earth and not the Life to come when everything has passed away.

And lastly, I am a warner. A Warner like those before him. To warn who? The Disbelievers in God the Creator, the evil doers etc. And warn them about what? The Punishment both in this world and the next.

The reward? Paradise!

If Mohammed is not sure of his future as stated in Quran 46:9, where is the hope of those who follow his teachings?

Jesus was never a warner. He is the truth. And he is very sure of his destiny and those who believe in him.

It's amazing how you can follow someone who has told you he cannot guarantee your destiny or future. And at the same time, you reject the words of Jesus who gives assurance of the future of those who believe in him.

Mohammed is dead and his tomb is still before us. No one knows where he went to after death.

But Jesus is alive. He is the only one who conquered death. No skept has been able to refute the resurrection of Christ.

The Roman soldiers who watched over his tomb couldn't refute the fact that Jesus rose from the dead.

Please, follow the one who knows the way.

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).

Please, don't risk your life. Hell is very hot. Receive the free gift of salvation which is in Christ alone.

Ken4Christ:
If Mohammed is not sure of his future as stated in Quran 46:9, where is the hope of those who follow his teachings?

Jesus was never a warner. He is the truth. And he is very sure of his destiny and those who believe in him.

It's amazing how you can follow someone who has told you he cannot guarantee your destiny or future. And at the same time, you reject the words of Jesus who gives assurance of the future of those who believe in him.

Mohammed is dead and his tomb is still before us. No one knows where he went to after death.

But Jesus is alive. He is the only one who conquered death. No skept has been able to refute the resurrection of Christ.

The Roman soldiers who watched over his tomb couldn't refute the fact that Jesus rose from the dead.

Please, follow the one who knows the way.

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).

Please, don't risk your life. Hell is very hot. Receive the free gift of salvation which is in Christ alone.

Lol

You must be a Comedian

Jesus knew the future and he couldn't tell when the Hour or the end of the world would be but ONLY the Father?

Prophet Muhammad was sure of his future and that of his followers in the Hereafter but not the future of things in this world except was has been revealed to him. I know you lot deliberately refused to understand this point just to wallow in your delusion.

Roman Soldiers watched over is Tomb? Really really? The Almighty Roman Soldiers guarding a Jew burial site, a subject people? The dross You guys swallow all in the name of faith Sha.

Of cos Jesus was a Way to God same way Moses was, same way the Baptist was, same way Zoroastrian Zarathustra was, same way Abraham was and same way the Last of the Prophet Muhammad was. So, quit being stagnant and holding onto just one. I hold onto all of them.

Of cos Hell is very hot and I have choosing my Shepherds wisely. I believe in all of them and the God that sent them with a Message, rather you should bother with your own soul because if you reject a Prophet of God, you are rejecting God Himself.

Read Duet. 18:18

Lukuluku69:
Lol

You must be a Comedian

Jesus knew the future and he couldn't tell when the Hour or the end of the world would be but ONLY the Father?

Prophet Muhammad was sure of his future and that of his followers in the Hereafter but not the future of things in this world except was has been revealed to him. I know you lot deliberately refused to understand this point just to wallow in your delusion.

Roman Soldiers watched over is Tomb? Really really? The Almighty Roman Soldiers guarding a Jew burial site, a subject people? The dross You guys swallow all in the name of faith Sha.

Of cos Jesus was a Way to God same way Moses was, same way the Baptist was, same way Zoroastrian Zarathustra was, same way Abraham was and same way the Last of the Prophet Muhammad was. So, quit being stagnant and holding onto just one. I hold onto all of them.

Of cos Hell is very hot and I have choosing my Shepherds wisely. I believe in all of them and the God that sent them with a Message, rather you should bother with your own soul because if you reject a Prophet of God, you are rejecting God Himself.

Read Duet. 18:18

Mohammed is a self acclaimed Prophet. No witness to back up his claim. And he could not have been sent from my God and Father of my Lord Jesus.

God does not contradict himself. The character and attributes of your own god is not the same as that of the Bible. One must be the true God and the other impersonating.

Jesus is the only sinless man who ever lived.

Jesus is the only man born without the agency of man. He was born of a virgin.

Jesus is the only man whose coming was foretold more than a hundred times before his birth.

Jesus is the only man that so many events in his ministry was foretold before his birth.

Jesus is the only man who predicted the events of the future.

Jesus is the only who died and rose again.

Jesus is the only man who made claims that no other religious leaders made. And he backed up his claim.

And Jesus is the only man who promised to come back to take us home.

And Jesus is the only man assigned by God to judge everyone.

Jesus is the only man who performed unmatched miracles.

After his resurrection, he went visibly to heaven before the very eyes of his disciples.

You want to ignore such a man who died for you and follow someone who did nothing for you. Rather, people are being killed because of his message. Please accept Jesus before it's too late. You know I am telling you the truth. Must you win an argument at the expense of your soul?

Ken4Christ:
Mohammed is a self acclaimed Prophet. No witness to back up his claim. And he could not have been sent from my God and Father of my Lord Jesus.

God does not contradict himself. The character and attributes of your own god is not the same as that of the Bible. One must be the true God and the other impersonating.

Jesus is the only sinless man who ever lived.

Jesus is the only man born without the agency of man. He was born of a virgin.

Jesus is the only man whose coming was foretold more than a hundred times before his birth.

Jesus is the only man that so many events in his ministry was foretold before his birth.

Jesus is the only man who predicted the events of the future.

Jesus is the only who died and rose again.

Jesus is the only man who made claims that no other religious leaders made. And he backed up his claim.

And Jesus is the only man who promised to come back to take us home.

And Jesus is the only man assigned by God to judge everyone.

Jesus is the only man who performed unmatched miracles.

After his resurrection, he went visibly to heaven before the very eyes of his disciples.

You want to ignore such a man who died for you and follow someone who did nothing for you. Rather, people are being killed because of his message. Please accept Jesus before it's too late. You know I am telling you the truth. Must you win an argument at the expense of your soul?

Oga Ken, save all what you posted for Sunday School, that is where it is needed.

At refrain of calling Jesus "a man", so he is no longer a god or The God but a man to you again?

He went to heaven, so do Enoch

He perform Miracles? So do others

Resurrection? Lol that never happened! Paul was only joking with you people.

As for Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) your Bible bears Testimony to his Prophethood and Mission. If you want to know about it, you can ask.

And talking about your "Truth" lol. No "Truth can come from a Position founded on Lies and Conjectures"

And I am not here to win an argument for doing that will be banal. Let me teach you the Bible you have carried for most part of your adult life

Lukuluku69:
Keep going in Circle o and chasing your own tail. That's the problem with you, deflections, rigmarole, repeating meaningless drowns.

Your European Crusaders must have taken a cue from Numbers Chapter 31 for that was the exact thing they did when they went to retake the Holy Land their man-god was strung up, beating and stripped.

And I can see that you have limited yourself to posting just Two verses from Numbers 31, I can see that you are not too proud of your god instructions well, their are dozens of such in your Bible but you are too ashamed to publish it.

What possibly could Jehovah do with 32 Virgin Girls?

So, you have no proof!?
You should be ashamed of yourself.



I asked you before

1. Tell me exactly what I said in my other post that Al-Wahidi did NOT say?

2. Just tell me that Al-Wahidi is FABRICATING Lies with attached EVIDENCE!?

3. Can Islam stand Scrutiny without crumbling?

It's too easy if you desire the TRUTH to set you free!

TenQ:
So, you have no proof!?
You should be ashamed of yourself.



I asked you before

1. Tell me exactly what I said in my other post that Al-Wahidi did NOT say?

2. Just tell me that Al-Wahidi is FABRICATING Lies with attached EVIDENCE!?

3. Can Islam stand Scrutiny without crumbling?

It's too easy if you desire the TRUTH to set you free!

Like a Bonobo, our wandering Christian Evangelist don jump

Keep jumping around. Just keep at it.

When you are done go read some of Jehovah instructions to Moses then come here an rationalize it as usual....

And keep your "truth", sufficient for me is Islam

Ken4Christ:
He had to die as a ransom for your release. This is different from taking someone's life at will.

Yeah, Your God can't save unless blood is spilled! Jesus is not someone right?

But the religion you have embraced encourage killings. So why do you prefer to remain there?

Nobody is dying for anybody! Where is killings encouraged without context?

Show us the context of the killings of apostasy in the Old testament?
Seems you guys have stepped up your hypocrisy!

Ken4Christ:
Mohammed is a self acclaimed Prophet. No witness to back up his claim. And he could not have been sent from my God and Father of my Lord Jesus.

God does not contradict himself. The character and attributes of your own god is not the same as that of the Bible. One must be the true God and the other impersonating.

Jesus is the only sinless man who ever lived.

Jesus is the only man born without the agency of man. He was born of a virgin.

Jesus is the only man whose coming was foretold more than a hundred times before his birth.

Jesus is the only man that so many events in his ministry was foretold before his birth.

Jesus is the only man who predicted the events of the future.

Jesus is the only who died and rose again.

Jesus is the only man who made claims that no other religious leaders made. And he backed up his claim.

And Jesus is the only man who promised to come back to take us home.

And Jesus is the only man assigned by God to judge everyone.

Jesus is the only man who performed unmatched miracles.

After his resurrection, he went visibly to heaven before the very eyes of his disciples.

You want to ignore such a man who died for you and follow someone who did nothing for you. Rather, people are being killed because of his message. Please accept Jesus before it's too late. You know I am telling you the truth. Must you win an argument at the expense of your soul?

2 Timothy 2:8 (KJV) Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

It was Paul who did you guys in!

In his numerous Epistle, talking turd as usual, there above he CLEARLY told his intended listeners that the story of Jesus RESURRECTION was his OWN, in his OWN GOSPEL he is preaching about Jesus. It is like he is Trademarking the Story.

Jesus true Disciples never teach that, the idea was solely Paul's and he was not ashamed to own it.

That the idea gained ground and became a belief System rested solely on Paul's LIES as he he said so himself. He abounds God's Glory thru LIES Lol. ABI I should post that one too?

Ken4Christ:
He had to die as a ransom for your release. This is different from taking someone's life at will.

But the religion you have embraced encourage killings. So why do you prefer to remain there?

Luke 19:27 (KJV) But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

That was master Jesus up there.

Those that would be slayed are who? Ants and Lizards? Goats and Donkeys?

Lukuluku69:
Luke 19:27 (KJV) But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

That was master Jesus up there.

Those that would be slayed are who? Ants and Lizards? Goats and Donkeys?

He is talking about the final judgment day through a parable.

If you don't accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, you will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

Lukuluku69:
2 Timothy 2:8 (KJV) Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

It was Paul who did you guys in!

In his numerous Epistle, talking turd as usual, there above he CLEARLY told his intended listeners that the story of Jesus RESURRECTION was his OWN, in his OWN GOSPEL he is preaching about Jesus. It is like he is Trademarking the Story.

Jesus true Disciples never teach that, the idea was solely Paul's and he was not ashamed to own it.

That the idea gained ground and became a belief System rested solely on Paul's LIES as he he said so himself. He abounds God's Glory thru LIES Lol. ABI I should post that one too?

There are other witnesses that Jesus resurrected from the dead. It wasn't Paul's idea. Paul actually persecuted the church until he an encounter with Jesus. So, he is also talking from experience.

Ken4Christ:
There are other witnesses that Jesus resurrected from the dead. It wasn't Paul's idea. Paul actually persecuted the church until he an encounter with Jesus. So, he is also talking from experience.

Oga Ken, it was Paul's idea from the begining. It later gained currency with the Gentiles who had similar belief amongst them. And Paul clearly said so in 2 Timothy 8 that the idea that Jesus rose was his!

You see every other place you read about that fabled resurrection story was tacked on later.

Remember what Paul said, abounding God's glory thru his LIES.

The idea that Jesus was God's son was also his that is why the Real Jesus disciples were weary and afraid of him because of his strange teachings.

He was not called a "Babbler" for no reason. He set forth strange gods! Alien to what the Jews believe but it gained currency with Gentiles who have no qualms with a man-god that died and wake up after three days. Check the story of Horus up Oga

Ken4Christ:
He is talking about the final judgment day through a parable.

If you don't accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, you will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

Lake of fire ko, Lagoon of Roses ni!

Oga rest, the story of Jesus grew in the telling. He was dressed in borrowed garb 75% of the New Testament. I can show you from your Bible alone!

The question is are you ready to unlearn those lies fed you from a lil' boy and learn new perspectives?

The Prophet of Islam is eminently mentioned in your Bible. I can give you Tens of References about him but are you ready to listen and not act arrogant and ignorant?