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Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 7:11pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Okay o. Rom.10.3 - Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. Rom.10.4 - Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:20pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
MightySparrow: The highlighted in red exposed you as an atheist disguising as a believer! JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are millions of people throughout the world SUBMITTING to the same line of thought just as Jesus Christ prayed for {John 17:20-23} and they are known globally as a group having unique love among themselves due to the faith they share {John 13:34-35} due to this faith they have diverted their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and using of weapons, they have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again as long as they're of this faith! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 You're just following Papa Oyedepo blindly there's no agreement between you and your fellow winner people except to gather your life savings and give Papa Oyedepo for him to flex like Kiss Daniel Cough#. In the face of politics and racism your fellow winner people are enemies that you can kill like chickens {Galatians 5:19-21} so what is the evidence that you SUBMIT to God's righteousness? Perhaps your submission doesn't have any power over politics and racism! 2Timothy 3:5 Guy you be confirmed atheists deceiving yourself! 1 Like |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 7:28pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Nonsense community truth. Lie and hypocrisy. People have posted on this forum atrocities of your GB latest is the drunkard Anthony Morris. What about the miracle wheat scam of C. T . Russell? Ari tẹni mọ wi, o fi apaadi bo tiẹ mọlẹ. Roman10: 9 -10 3 Likes |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:43pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
MightySparrow: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have used what the GB taught us to settle our disparities peacefully, erased the making, buying, selling and using of weapons throughout the globe, we have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} everyone know that when it comes to love among people professing the same faith JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are number one on this planet {John 13:34-35} we are the most dedicated when talking about preaching zealously and industriously teaching what we know about God in all our neighbourhood {Matthew 28:19-20} recently people globally can testify to what JWs have done with Serena Williams as she got baptized and quit celebrity lifestyle! Oya tell us the WORKS of your faith in Oyedepo church apart from arguing blindly! James 2:18-26 |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 8:24pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: What about James 2 : 18 - 26? Stay with your community truth. Faith without proof of eternal power of God and goodwill to humanity but impotent arguments is fake and dead. Whatever JWs, special interpretation is a lie. Is Oyedepo manufacturing weapons or have a stake in Nigerian Army? 2 Likes |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by elated177: 9:43pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
Sparrow, good to know you have no answer to my question. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by elated177: 9:50pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
No need for much argument. The gifts of the Spirit of truth of YHVH Almighty still abound today in his chosen vessels. Our Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, still pours on his chosen human vessels his supernatural powers/gifts today. Speaking in tongues simply means, scripturally, of course, speaking in different UNLEARNED languages. That one cannot speak in tongues doesn't mean he/she doesn't have the Set-apart Spirit of YHVH Almighty. Simple. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:25pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
MightySparrow: Ọmọ you're a complete FOOL! Jesus commanded his disciples to love their enemies and even pray for those persecuting them {Matthew 5:43-48} of course that's really impossible for mortal man to obey so how can members of Jehovah's Witnesses organization throughout the world agree to comply with the order if not the power of God's Holy Spirit? They're not supposed to lead with weapons! Matthew 26:52 Even ordinarily going from one place to another your Papa moves around with armed security operatives so does that show any sense of power of God's Holy Spirit? If he has the power of God's Holy Spirit what is he doing with armed guards around him? So your own God needs weapons to protect your Papa from who? A fool at forty is surely a fool forever! |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 5:14am On Apr 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: This is digression from the topic of discussion, please stop on the argument: Holy Spirit baptism and speaking in tongues. Please stay on the topic. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:03am On Apr 21, 2023 |
MightySparrow: If you're not stupid why coming to quote me in the first place when i'm talking about the WORKS (FRUIT) of God's Holy Spirit? James 2:26 All religions including Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, traditionalists speak in tongues so that's not the evidence of God's Holy Spirit in action anymore, whatever Satan's agents does can't be valid evidence of God's Holy Spirit rather it's what Satan and all his agents can't do. That's why Jesus said: "by their FRUITS (not GIFTS) you will know them, no good tree can produce routine fruit neither can a bad tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:16-18 Speaking in tongues is one of the numerous GIFTS of spirits in action so all religions having powerful spirits in their midst can perform that it's to be well organized so that their won't be any division {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10} that Satan and his cohorts can't do! Luke 11:23 Your useless, hopeless, worthless and athiest Papa disguising as agent of light {2Corinthians 11:14-15} can never ever do that so whenever i'm commenting don't come quoting me to argue because i'm not a fool following athiests claiming believers with Holy Spirit but relying on armed security guards like you! 1 Like |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Altered4life: Antiochus: It's not Jehovah's Witnesses who wrote what is found in the Bible book of 1Corinthians 13:8-10 Paul emphatically told the Christians in Corinth that the GIFTS they're seeing among Jewish Christians that has been working in others is just a sign that God has approved the group but it will soon cease and only LOVE will continue as lasting sign {1Corinthians 13:13} among true disciples of Christ! John 13:34-35 But most of you just want to see supernatural signs instead of fine WORKS so that you can be sure that your selfish cravings will be granted that's why Yahoo Big Boys (religious title chiefs) are multiplying in your society and collecting your money to buy material possessions for harlots up and down while you people are desperately looking for what God never promises any of His worshipers: worldly riches 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 8:24am On Apr 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Yet you have not refuted the fact that in Christianity of Jesus by Jesus to His followers should speak in tongues as evidence of Holy Spirit baptism after the order of Apostles and the early christians. It doesn't call for names calling and abuses nah. Àbí? |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:19am On Apr 21, 2023 |
MightySparrow: There is no evidence of Holy Spirit in your hopeless Papa if he's going about with armed security guards so he's been deceiving you with lies that you're speaking in tongues when all you've been spewing is gibberish! If you don't want me to expose your hopeless, useless and worthless Papa just don't quote me again otherwise i will continue to show everyone that you've remained a fool after 40 1 Like |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 1:09pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Ọlọpa ewo n' tele? What relevance is this to the question? |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:01pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
MightySparrow: What have i got to do with atheists like you? I have told you that you and i aren't on the same page so stop quoting or mentioning me! |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 5:44pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Are you the one to call me an atheist or God whom I serve who knows me by name? I beg go and sit down. I know my God . I don't know if you know yours. You boast about your organization,, I boast about knowing God. Be bragging about your community truth. Jer. 9: 24;Daniel 11: 32. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Jackanda1(m): 6:08pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
elated177:Bro, What's your denomination? |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:39pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
MightySparrow: You know your god whose spirit can give you and your Papa the ability to spew gibberish claiming you have the gift of Holy Spirit like God's prophets but your Papa depend on fully armed guards with weapons to protect him unlike God's prophet. Atheist, you're a fool after 40! 1 Like |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 7:00pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Can't just station a topic, why jumping like s monkey? |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:25pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
MightySparrow:If Papa failed to tell you the evidence of God's Holy Spirit because he's a greedy fowl why can't you just stay of my mention when i've warned you to stop quoting me? Anytime you want to quote me come with your brains not atheistic arguments simply because you don't agree with what i typed. I have told you several times that you and i aren't on the same page! |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 7:14am On Apr 22, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Haha! Why insults nah. No idea about the topic? |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:28am On Apr 22, 2023 |
MightySparrow:What about my first post that you stupidly quoted? MightySparrow:If you and your hopeless, worthless and useless Papa has an idea about the GIFT of God's Holy Spirit the bald headed greedy fowl won't be going about with fully armed security guards yet lying to you that he has the power of Holy Spirit! |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by elated177: 9:55am On Apr 22, 2023 |
Jackanda1, my denomination is perfect obedience to the Commandments of YHVH Almighty, which his begotten Son, Yahushua the Messiah, embodies. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 10:12am On Apr 22, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Okay is it illiterate that annoyed you. Biko. Did I really call you illiterate? No. A lawyer will call you uneducated because you are an illiterate when it comes to the issue of law. In the matter of Holy Spirit and His gifts that JWs outlaws? Is it safe to say you are........? |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:35am On Apr 22, 2023 |
MightySparrow: Prove it by telling me why your hopeless, worthless and useless Papa goes about with fully armed guards if he knows anything about the Holy Spirit! |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 12:57pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: That is not the topic. For emphasis: Holy Spirit baptism and speaking in tongues. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:07pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
MightySparrow: When real believers are discussing biblical topics atheists like you should keep quiet, your stupid, hopeless, worthless and useless Papa has been deceiving you with gibberish saying he's speaking in tongues as evidence of Holy Spirit baptism yet he's going about with fully armed security guards, are you saying the Holy Spirit need weapons to protect the old fool? |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MightySparrow: 2:13pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You are expressing anger not answer to the question. Holy Spirit baptism with the evidence of speaking in tongues. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:25pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
MightySparrow:You're not expressing madness when you were quoting me and typing trash instead of saying what your Yahoo Papa infused in your head, shey? If you don't want me to rubbish you and your Yahoo Big Boy you're calling your Papa then stop mentioning me. He knows nothing about God's Holy Spirit that is why he's going about with fully armed guards, servants of God having the evidence of God's Holy Spirit are protected by the Holy Spirit not humans carrying weapons after them! |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Jackanda1(m): 3:53pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
MaxinDhouse and mightysparrow, your banter is silly and pointless. I bet you both are not more than 15year old. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:02pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Jackanda1:Is this how you speak in your own spirit tongue? |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 6:02pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Jackanda1, Man was born flesh and blood from his mother's womb. Jesus Christ told you this in His Gospel, affirming what God said in the beginning when He pointed out that man was made from the clay of this earth, not spirit - Genesis 2 vs 6 - 7. So in order to become a citizen of the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom where only those who are born of spirit can gain access, a first step in becoming a Son of God and eventually a partaker in the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God, one must first be born-again. And as broken down carefully in His Gospel by Jesus Christ, one must first be born-again before one can then become a citizen of the Kingdom of God. 1 There was a man named Nicodemus, one of the Pharisees. He was an important Jewish leader.○ Born of Water — Is an acknowledgment of the message spread by John the Baptist whose call for repentance as found in Matthew 3 vs 2 Jesus Christ was reiterated beginning at the start of His own Kingdom mission, "Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand" found in Matthew 4 vs 7 & Mark 1 vs 15. As John explained in his conversation with the Pharisees, to be born of water — baptized — there is a need for repentance, a visible transition from following God's Old Law of Moses to following God's New agreement of peace —Jesus Christ. In verse 8 of the passage below, John instructs the Pharisees to change their hearts and show by the way that they live that they have in fact changed from following the Old Way to following the New way — Jesus Christ. 7 Many Pharisees and Sadducees came to where John was baptizing people. When John saw them, he said, “You are all snakes! Who warned you to run from God’s judgment that is coming?Suffice to say, the kind of repentance God desires is not simply an abandoning of one's sinful ways but more importantly, an abandoning of the hold the Old Law had on one to embrace instead a full commitment to following and abiding by the direct teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ alone. Once one is baptized in water after this, one is said to have concluded the work of obedience necessary for one to be Born of water. ○ Born of Spirit(Eternal Life) - In John 3 vs 16, Jesus Christ elucidated that all those who believe in Him will receive Eternal Life in place of the condemnation of Death which they formerly lived under as a result of God's judgment against sinners of Old - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. The Spirit of Eternal life, the spirit those who are in fact born again are born of, as described by Jesus Christ in the context of John 3 vs 1 - 21 is not a passive spirit. Rather, He is an uncontrollable invasion of those of the individual who is born of Him — a possession so to speak. This can be vividly seen in what Jesus Christ said of those who are born of the Spirit of Life in John 3 vs 5 - 8 7 A woman from Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give me a drink.”In the above passage, Jesus Christ equally describes the Spirit of Eternal life as living water on the inside of those who drink from Him again implying that one does not get a passive spirit but a conscious spirit wielding power inside of them when born of Spirit. The born-again process is clearly not of the mind but of acts of obedience and also of invasion by the controlling power of the Spirit of Eternal Life who then guides one into the Kingdom of God where eventually — if one continues in submission and obedience — one is able to become a son of God, moving on to attain righteous by seeking first the Kingdom of God(holiness) and God's righteousness as commanded by Jesus Christ. However, none of this will be possible if one is not first born-again. So, ask yourself today, are you born-again? Can you confirm today that the Spirit of Eternal life has invaded your person and is actively working in you pushing you in whichever direction He chooses? or are you pretending to be born again in order to fit into the religious circles of men? |
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