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No baptist after John!
Oga are you ok? Who baptized Paul?

John baptized for the purpose of Mosaic laws regarding the Old Covenant that's why his name was attached to baptism but after him Jesus initiated baptism into the New covenant and he never baptize anyone it's his disciples that were carrying it out that's why none of them could be called "BAPTIST"
So you have answered your own question but you don't know.
Let's go through your answer. The disciples of Jesus Christ baptized people after John but none was called the Baptist so why should you expect those who baptized before him to be called the Baptist.
Do you now see your faulty logic?
And please none of what you say is written in the bible so what is the source of your information?


Regarding what Paul said i won't teach you it's obvious the Israelites weren't baptized in a literal sense!
Let's just say I believe Paul and not JW.

tctrills:
Oga are you ok? Who baptized Paul?

Of course you're not OK because Paul wasn't baptized into obeying the Mosaic laws which he was fighting for rather he was baptized into Christianity!

I won't teach you!

MaxInDHouse:
Of course you're not OK because Paul wasn't baptized into obeying the Mosaic laws which he was fighting for rather he was baptized into Christianity!

I won't teach you!

How does this matter? You are all over the place. So at least you now agree that baptism did not end with John so what is your new argument. If other baptist after John were not called "The Baptist" Then those before him do not need to be called same.
But then for 2 million naira can you use your bible to show that John was the first to perform baptism?
The bible teaches that baptism occured in the days of Moses when JOHN was not yet born.

tctrills:
How does this matter? You are all over the place. So at least you now agree that baptism did not end with John so what is your new argument. If other baptist after John were not called "The Baptist" Then those before him do not need to be called same.
But then for 2 million naira can you use your bible to show that John was the first to perform baptism?
The bible teaches that baptism occured in the days of Moses when JOHN was not yet born.

There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John.

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth!

There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.
I see you have gotten stuck. So all the people that got baptized after John's death were baptized by his spirit?

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John. is this taught in the bible or is it the teachings of your governing body?

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth! [/quote]
Bro stop acting dumb. In the same sentence you claim no baptism before John and still speak of baptism after John?
What you say can't be a truth. I see you as intelligent but the fact that you believe this unexplainable nonsense shows the power of religion.
You believe baptism ended with John and you still believe that people got baptized after John.

MaxInDHouse:
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There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John.

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth!

Let me educate you a little bit more. Your bible actually speaks of 3 different baptisms.
Baptism unto Moses,
Baptism unto John
And Baptism unto Christ.

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John.

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth!

Let me give you another piece of irrefutable evidence of baptism before John.
Jesus Christ said except a man is born of water and the spirit, he cannot see the kingdom of God. He again taught that Abraham and all the holy prophets would inherit the kingdom of God. What other evidence do you need to know they were baptized?
Remember, Jesus Christ does not lie so Abraham and the prophets could not enter the kingdom without being Born Again.
I am still waiting for your one piece of evidence from the bible to show baptism began with John. Remember I promised you 2 million naira if you can provide any such evidence.

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John.

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth!

Today, I am in a good mood to teach you. You believe that only the Jews were born of water and the spirit right? Now I would teach you from the Bible that both Jews and Gentiles were born again.

1 Corinthians 12:13

13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves[a] or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit.

You are welcome

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John.

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth!

More teaching
Example of non-israelites that were born again.
Acts 10:47-48
“Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days.

Romans 10:11-13

11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John.

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth!

Acts 10:44-45

44 While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word. 45 And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.

By the way, @vybzkartel , do you believe yourself to be born again? How certain are you that you have in fact been born again, according to the Truth of Jesus Christ, and not the mental delusions of religion?

See https://www.nairaland.com/7110397/gospel-minddump/3#120563417

If you are not currently possessed by the Spirit of the Eternal Life, the very same Spirit of Life that lives inside of Jesus Christ, I am afraid you are not born again and are simply playing Christian according to the script provided to you by your pastors and mogs whom you think are anointed by God. And no, the Spirit of Eternal Life is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit aka the Spirit of Truth, as Jesus Christ informed you in His Gospel lives only in those who have attained holiness - John 8 vs 31 - 44. So, if you cannot confirm that you have been born of the Spirit of Eternal Life, you are not born of Spirit and hence not born again.

You have revealed what is hidden in your mind but it's a pity i can't help you. You're jealous as many in this forum are learning from Max but Max is directing them to God's organization so because Max is all over the place (forum) you have decided to follow Max all over the forum to counter whatever Max teaches in the name of God's organization.
Henceforth there's no need chatting with you it's needless since you're an atheist as in fugitive with no specific religious group who is envious of God's organized people.
So if you like quote one of my post ten times it only shows how jealous you're yet unwilling to humbly request a free home Bible study from those who has the ability to help you!

tctrills:
Acts 10:44-45

44 While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word. 45 And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.

MaxInDHouse:
You have revealed what is hidden in your mind but it's a pity i can't help you. You're jealous as many in this forum are learning from Max but Max is directing them to God's organization so because Max is all over the place (forum) you have decided to follow Max all over the forum to counter whatever Max teaches in the name of God's organization.
Henceforth there's no need chatting with you it's needless since you're an atheist as in fugitive with no specific religious group who is envious of God's organized people.
So if you like quote one of my post ten times it only shows how jealous you're yet unwilling to humbly request a free home Bible study from those who has the ability to help you!

Looooool
See fear.
When a false doctrine meets the truth it is forced to run.
Oga dey look for excuse to run.
See person wey we dey try help.
I am teaching you how to learn and ask questions. Learn to be an independent thinker.
Learn to ask questions and demand answers.
Do not just accept what is being fed to you especially if it contradicts the word of God.
I know you so well like the back of my palm. While I commend your zeal in marketing for your faith, you are also a bit crafty.
You have seen that I have blocked all your windows but instead of you to accept the truth, you now look for an excuse to run.

I was able to put forth gospel based answers. I was able to teach you the need to be born again.
I was able to show you from the bible that baptism occured before the days of John.
But what was your reply? Childish logic.
If John was called the Baptist there could not have been another baptism. See stupidity.
Where is that written?
It seems they teach you guys to be dull and dumb.

Atheist thirsty for arguments {Luke 16:24} no reason throwing costly pearls at pigs! Matthew 7:6

tctrills:
Looooool
See fear.
When a false doctrine meets the truth it is forced to run.
Oga dey look for excuse to run.
See person wey we dey try help.
I am teaching you how to learn and ask questions. Learn to be an independent thinker.
Learn to ask questions and demand answers.
Do not just accept what is being fed to you especially if it contradicts the word of God.
I know you so well like the back of my palm. While I commend your zeal in marketing for your faith, you are also a bit crafty.
You have seen that I have blocked all your windows but instead of you to accept the truth, you now look for an excuse to run.

Below is your type not ready to learn from an organized group but wanting to teach others that's ATHEISM in disguise!

MaxInDHouse:
Atheist thirsty for arguments {Luke 16:24} no reason throwing costly pearls at pigs! Matthew 7:6



Below is your type not ready to learn from an organized group but wanting to teach others that's ATHEISM in disguise!

My brother, if you had the truth, I would have asked you to teach.
Let's go back to topic.
I have a question for you.
Since you are not going to be born again and you can't enter or see God's kingdom, who's kingdom would you end up in?
Your leaders and governing body would be in God's kingdom while you the followers would be lost. Don't you see that you are being used?

Funny atheist!
So the GOVERNING BODY will be in the kingdom but millions across the globe who are OBEDIENT to them won't be there as their subjects, that means it's you and your cohorts that's been against them that will be there as their subjects or what?
Even logically you're making no practical sense!

tctrills:
My brother, if you had the truth, I would have asked you to teach.
Let's go back to topic.
I have a question for you.
Since you are not going to be born again and you can't enter or see God's kingdom, who's kingdom would you end up in?
Your leaders and governing body would be in God's kingdom while you the followers would be lost. Don't you see that you are being used?

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheist!
So the GOVERNING BODY will be in the kingdom but millions across the globe who are OBEDIENT to them won't be there as their subjects, that means it's you and your cohorts that's been against them that will be there as their subjects or what?
Even logically you're making no practical sense!

I am only explaining the consequences of your doctrine. You said you are not born again and Jesus Christ said that you can't partake in the kingdom.
Its funny you call your chapels kingdom hall when most of you don't qualify to be in God's kingdom.

At least you and billions from different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines will be there after all you're all BORN AGAIN despite being against one another always arguing about doctrines.
Then our GOVERNING BODY will also be with you people in God's Kingdom so all of you will be ruling with Jesus in heaven as BORN AGAIN!

tctrills:
I am only explaining the consequences of your doctrine. You said you are not born again and Jesus Christ said that you can't partake in the kingdom. Its funny you call your chapels kingdom hall when most of you don't qualify to be in God's kingdom.

MaxInDHouse:
At least you and billions from different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines will be there after all you're all BORN AGAIN despite being against one another always arguing about doctrines.
Then our GOVERNING BODY will also be with you people in God's Kingdom so all of you will be ruling with Jesus in heaven as BORN AGAIN!

Looool
Your governing body with their own different religions with contradicting teachings also claim to be born again.
You condemn others for having contradictory doctrines as if your own doctrine isn't equally contradicting.

Funny atheist!
Nobody is condemning you rather you condemn yourself by getting overly sensitive to what others believe.
If all the religious groups are contradicting themselves then why disturb yourself over just one out of over 41,000 different sects claiming Christians?

tctrills:
Looool
Your governing body with their own different religions with contradicting teachings also claim to be born again.
You condemn others for having contradictory doctrines as if your own doctrine isn't equally contradicting.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheist!
Nobody is condemning you rather you condemn yourself by getting overly sensitive to what others believe.
If all the religious groups are contradicting themselves then why disturb yourself over just one out of over 41,000 different sects claiming Christians?

You call correcting your false beliefs being sensitive. Ok let's say I am sensitive to your false teachings.
I understand you are no longer comfortable with my questioning and you want me to turn my attention to other churches. Loool.
Maybe I would do that at sometime but for now I am still enjoying the game with you

Atheists with no religion wants to kill himself over God's organization!

tctrills:
You call correcting your false beliefs being sensitive. Ok let's say I am sensitive to your false teachings.
I understand you are no longer comfortable with my questioning and you want me to turn my attention to other churches. Loool.
Maybe I would do that at sometime but for now I am still enjoying the game with you

MaxInDHouse:
Atheists with no religion wants to kill himself over God's organization!

Lol Everyone claims to be God's organization.

tctrills:
Lol Everyone claims to be God's organization.

So stick to the one you can vouch for if truly you know what the Bible teach because one out of all these sects belongs to Jesus!

MaxInDHouse:
So stick to the one you can vouch for if truly you know what the Bible teach because one out of all these sects belongs to Jesus!

Am I making you uncomfortable

tctrills:
Am I making you uncomfortable

I just pity you as you have to go through all the pain quoting me but trying to pretend you have something tangible to say when in fact you're just an atheist!

MaxInDHouse:
I just pity you as you have to go through all the pain quoting me but trying to pretend you have something tangible to say when in fact you're just an atheist!

We both know you don't pity me, you are terrified of me .

MaxInDHouse:
I just pity you as you have to go through all the pain quoting me but trying to pretend you have something tangible to say when in fact you're just an atheist!

I love the way you JW define me. To you, I am an atheist but to you elder brother Janosky I am a Trinitarians.
So to the JW church, I am a man who doesn't believe in the existence of God and still believes in 3 God's.
You guys seem to be having headache in demystifying me a mere human.
I only imagine the both of you arguing over my person in your private meetings.

tctrills:
I love the way you JW define me. To you, I am an atheist but to you elder brother Janosky I am a Trinitarians.
So to the JW church, I am a man who doesn't believe in the existence of God and still believes in 3 God's.
You guys seem to be having headache in demystifying me a mere human.
I only imagine the both of you arguing over my person in your private meetings.

Go and worship your god if truly you believe in one!

At least there are over 41,000 different sects all claiming denominations so if truly you believe in God you should be able to present one where you worship!

MaxInDHouse:
Go and worship your god if truly you believe in one!

At least there are over 41,000 different sects all claiming denominations so if truly you believe in God you should be able to present one where you worship!

Are you trying to beg me to stop questioning your false teachings?

tctrills:
Are you trying to beg me to stop questioning your false teachings?

If you don't know true teachings yet calling the teaching that's yielding positive results in the gathering of imperfect humans false ọmọ you be confirmed atheist!

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't know true teachings yet calling the teaching that's yielding positive results in the gathering of imperfect humans false ọmọ you be confirmed atheist!

Actually false teachings can never yield a positive result.