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Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by TheJourneyMan: 9:24am On Apr 30, 2023
Nairalander248:


Seun disable signatures ooh... We no dey see anything
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by RobbStark(m): 9:32am On Apr 30, 2023
All I can say is that, the quality of work done on this collapsed building was very very poor.
I mean, look at the spacing of the columns links, and the casting looks sandy for a structure of such magnitude.

I have said it severally, the day most clients learn to get competent engineers to handle their projects, they will save themselves alot of money.

Quacks are cheap indeed, but they are not knowledgeable about structures and what occurs within.

I rest my case

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Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by RobbStark(m): 9:34am On Apr 30, 2023
aktolly54:
If you are building 2 storey building, mould your block yourself. Don't rely on those people who are after their own profit and mould nonsense out there

You guys get it wrong about moulding blocks yourself
The thing is that if any structural member of the building is terrible, those your blocks you mould yourself will crumble, when such member fails.
Haven't you seen 5-storey building still under construction without blocks put up yet.

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Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by spencekat(m): 9:35am On Apr 30, 2023
Use COREN certified engineer,they won't ,all in the bid to minimize costs.

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Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by spencekat(m): 9:39am On Apr 30, 2023
Khastro:
Coren will look into this matter and take immediate actions.
The rate of substandard materials in construction, as well as actions of unqualified persons as engineers is still alarming
Blame the owner(s) or his representative(s).If the building is not where he or she will live,some of them always insist on cheap and inferior building materials in order to minimize costs.
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by 3kay945(m): 9:40am On Apr 30, 2023
High cost of building materials also contributed to this.
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by RobbStark(m): 9:44am On Apr 30, 2023
spencekat:
Use COREN certified engineer,they won't ,all in the bid to minimize costs.


Not all coren cert civil engrs are site competent.
Most got it just to work in an office that needs a coren cert engineer
Most of them don't know what to do when they get to site-no experience.
They rely on their masons and carpenters to even do setting out not to talk of fixing the foundation starter bars.
I have been in the field long enof to know about them.

Don't get me wrong on the coren cert.
Coren is trying but the engrs need to do better.

For me, the major culprits to this collapse thing is the clients. They most go for cheap and inexperienced labour

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Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by spencekat(m): 9:55am On Apr 30, 2023
RobbStark:



Not all coren cert civil engrs are site competent.
Most got it just to work in an office that needs a coren cert engineer
Most of them don't know what to do when they get to site-no experience.
They rely on their masons and carpenters to even do setting out not to talk of fixing the foundation starter bars.
I have been in the field long enof to know about them.

Don't get me wrong on the coren cert.
Coren is trying but the engrs need to do better.

For me, the major culprits to this collapse thing is the clients. They most go for cheap and inexperienced labour
You are right.In every profession,there are incompetent and poorly or non-experienced ones.The profession regulatory body(COREN)has more to do.
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 9:57am On Apr 30, 2023
Igor33:
Nigerian engineers are very useless my brother

Stop being myopic in your sense of reasoning.....

You didn't go through the write up only to come and be generalising a critical statement here.....

The Client of the building hired himself as the contractor who also hired himself as the structural Engineer and a builder to build his house .....

May be he also got his building plans by hiring himself as well instead of an Architect....

So in summary, he is the Architect, the Client, the Structural Engineer and as well as builder...

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Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by Reference(m): 10:07am On Apr 30, 2023
ArcSEMPECJ:


Stop being myopic in your sense of reasoning.....
You didn't go through the write up only to come and be generalising a critical statement here.....
The Client of the building hired himself as the contractor who also hired himself as the structural Engineer and a builder to build his house .....
May be he also got his building plans by hiring himself as well instead of an Architect....
So in summary, he is the Architect, the Client, the Structural Engineer and as well as builder...

In a nutshell, there are no checks and balances.... just like Nigeria's democracy where the President selects the chief Justice and the Senate president.... it always ends badly.
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 10:15am On Apr 30, 2023
To me the challenges involved in building construction lies solely on the Engineer or contractor employed to oversee such project....

I have a building am constructing now, I gave the Client my estimate but on getting to site , which I thought has a very good firm laterite soil beneath, I notice some parts are full of loosed natural soils after going 1.2m down on excavation work.....

What did I do? I ran a video and told the client that the estimate won't work again with what am seeing ....

That he should prepare for an increase in the estimate which he didn't take likely , saying he has delivered all I told him to do....

And being a Professional, I didn't go with his words , I fired the works , instead of 4 inches weak blinding , I changed it to solid Concrete mixture and increased it to 9 inches blinding and it took much materials .....and that's how I changed the positioning of column base, added more column base as well,....and the Client started shouting .....

I had to even do double reinforcement beams at places that require such ground beam chaining and it gave me what I wanted at Foundation stage ...

So in all, as a Professional into building construction, you have to follow your client Psychologically, emotionally and physically inorder to best him at his pressure, so you can give him the best that won't cause the worst later .....

Today, the client had adjusted to the demands the site gave me than myself adjusting to the pressure he gave me ....

Am now running a good understanding with him ( my client )
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by GoodLord95: 10:45am On Apr 30, 2023
10 missing 1 Dead undecided
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by Penisman: 10:49am On Apr 30, 2023
Stargangz:
My judgement;
Liyel Imoke should be arrested asap, while the engineer should be stoned to death wherever he's sighted.

You should rather be tied to a stake and given quantum electricity voltage for not knowing that Ayade is the governor of Cross River State and not Liyel
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by iLoveYouToo(m): 12:04pm On Apr 30, 2023
spencekat:
Use COREN certified engineer,they won't ,all in the bid to minimize costs.


To be certified by COREN no mean say you sabi work o. Regulators need to do more to ensure builders comply either that or there should be stringent laws to punish offenders.
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by visaclick: 12:07pm On Apr 30, 2023
iLoveYouToo:



To be certified by COREN no mean say you sabi work o. Regulators need to do more to ensure builders comply either that or there should be stringent laws to punish offenders.
shut up ur mouth there. U are fool to even talk down on any certified individual let alone a coren certified engineer.
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by iLoveYouToo(m): 12:12pm On Apr 30, 2023
visaclick:
shut up ur mouth there. U are fool to even talk down on any certified individual let alone a coren certified engineer.


I didn’t think you’ll take it personal. I was speaking vaguely and not about you in particular but since you carried it on your head, fine.

I have seen a quack doctor that didn’t know much about medicine, yes he had his NMA certificate
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by oloyedewaris(m): 12:30pm On Apr 30, 2023
MichaelSokoto:
Dangote cement has killed more Nigerians than natural disasters right 4rm it's inception!

Na me talk am, I no mince words!
cool
So it's now cement fault

Still find a way to blame dangote

You people always amaze me
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by spencekat(m): 12:54pm On Apr 30, 2023
iLoveYouToo:



To be certified by COREN no mean say you sabi work o. Regulators need to do more to ensure builders comply either that or there should be stringent laws to punish offenders.
Exactly,let the body up its game
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by MeineMutter: 2:11pm On Apr 30, 2023
They think of their pockets firstly. See tiny size of iron rods used in casting pillars. See Robbie’s called bricks. No single cement.
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by InvertedHammer: 2:32pm On Apr 30, 2023
aktolly54:
If you are building 2 storey building, mould your block yourself. Don't rely on those people who are after their own profit and mould nonsense out there
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Blocks are not the primary load-bearers.

That's the job of beams and pillars.

Not letting concrete cure well could be a contributing factor. Or using wrong concrete mix ratio (mixing 1 bag of cement with 40 headpans of sand and 60 headpans of stone grin) which results in lower psi.

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Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by Cassandraloius: 3:07pm On Apr 30, 2023
Those building collapsing these days have stayed too long on earth or it could be a cause of poor building materials. sad
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by EmpressOVD: 3:23pm On Apr 30, 2023
Naijalarry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JuihOd1b3g



Source: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/04/10-escape-death-one-missing-as-2-storey-building-collapses-in-calabar/


As u mention NSEMO, u don cast d name of d hotel olredi nd d owner cos na only one hotel dey Nsemo... People wen dey Cali suppose relate 😏
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by fof1: 3:46pm On Apr 30, 2023
Stargangz:
My judgement;
Liyel Imoke should be arrested asap, while the engineer should be stoned to death wherever he's sighted.

What Concerns Liyei Imoke with Colkapsed Building? Is he the Owner or the Governor of the State,Pls? Enlighten us Pls
Re: 2-Storey Building Collapses In Calabar, 10 Rescued, 1 Missing (Video, Photos) by fof1: 3:47pm On Apr 30, 2023
Stargangz:
My judgement;
Liyel Imoke should be arrested asap, while the engineer should be stoned to death wherever he's sighted.

What Concerns Liyei Imoke with Colkapsed Building? Is he the Owner or the Governor of the State,Pls? Enlighten us Pls...

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