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| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by garfield1: 11:50pm On May 06, 2023 |
Omowale2023:In 1979,justice obaseki said when the court is faced with two conflicting statutes,they will choose the one that is meaningful,easy,less absurd and useful,less ambiguous for the framers of the law do not intend confusion or absurdity. In 2003,they repeated the same thing.in 2019,justice onnoghen said same thing and in 2021 justice ekun said same thing. Whenever issues of fct come up,they always maintain that fct is like a state and that it is neither superior nor inferior to any state.can you now see the direction they will take? |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by Greenbirth: 12:20am On May 07, 2023 |
Please oo. You must score 4 credits and 1 A to be admitted in unilag. If I score 4 credits without 1A Will I still be admitted. See we are watching this bastard criminals in Nigeria. They want to deny the law because it does not favor Thief Tinubu. Evil people. |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by Spy360(m): 3:12am On May 07, 2023 |
garfield1:Literal interpretation is the first step. And please what's ambiguous about that ortion of the law except that people just want to push their personal opinion and agenda. |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by press9jatv(m): 3:15am On May 07, 2023 |
Greenbirth:simple analysis of winning Nigeria presidential election with having 25% in the fct |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by MiztaDynameek: 5:01am On May 07, 2023 |
Omowale2023:The earlier you go and study the new electoral act, the better for you and all the olodo like you that are still in shock. |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by Benwallt(m): 6:08am On May 07, 2023 |
Omowale2023:Oga , election is neither subjects not fruits. Face reality head on. It's like denying you a citizenship of Nigeria because you have lived all your life in Anambra and never live nor visit Abuja. It doesn't make any sense. Will Pandora now be made president because he scored 25% in Abuja after bagging least votes among the three front runners? |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 6:23am On May 07, 2023 |
Draslo:Did you understand the article? Nobody said winning FCT only gives you the seat but you can't be president without getting 25% of it |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 6:27am On May 07, 2023 |
garfield1:25% is not enough to say it's elevation over other states. Buhari exploited this same loophole in 2003 but was found out that Obj had 25% at least. Why didn't he use that analogy for other states where Obj lost ? It shows that FCT 25% is compulsory. |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 6:28am On May 07, 2023 |
garfield1:FCT is not a state. Are you drunk or something? The framers had what in mind? Mind reader |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by garfield1: 6:31am On May 07, 2023 |
InyinyaAgbaOku:It shows nothing because you lied.obj won fct in 2003 |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by garfield1: 6:34am On May 07, 2023 |
Spy360:True,the supreme court starts a judgment interpretation with literal interpretation and fortunately, all texts or referrals about Nigeria's component units say 36 states and fct which the framers meant innocently.if theres no ambiguity, we won't be here arguing.the apex court will simply choose the least ambiguous interpretation |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by garfield1: 6:36am On May 07, 2023 |
InyinyaAgbaOku:I should ask if you are ok.if you are high so early,don't think others are so undisciplined and loose.in any case,the apex court will certainly rule in favour of tinubu so save yourself the trouble |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by blacknp(m): 9:29am On May 07, 2023 |
Greenbirth:cc: inyinyaagbaoku: IGNORANCE OF THE LAW, HAS NEVER BEEN ACCEPTED IN LAW AS AN EXCUSE. Garfield1 is correct: 299. The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation; and accordingly - (a) all the legislative powers, the executive powers and the judicial powers vested in the House of Assembly, the Governor of a State and in the courts of a State shall, respectively, vest in the National Assembly, the President of the Federation and in the courts which by virtue of the foregoing provisions are courts established for the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja; (b) all the powers referred to in paragraph (a) of this section shall be exercised in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution; and (c) the provisions of this Constitution pertaining to the matters aforesaid shall be read with such modifications and adaptations as may be reasonably necessary to bring them into conformity with the provisions of this section. |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by blacknp(m): 9:49am On May 07, 2023 |
garfield1:Section 299 of the constitution of 1999 as Amended has doused any ambiguity. |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by ChybuzzDD(m): 10:41am On May 07, 2023 |
Kentursky:It's trash because it doesn't favour your candidate?? Sometimes i wonder what sort of country you guys are praying to have! |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by 00FFT00(m): 11:42am On May 07, 2023 |
Draslo:Why do you have need to twist what was clearly stated in the article?. |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 12:11pm On May 07, 2023 |
blacknp:Before you marry my daughter, you must come with 10 family members and your father. In other words, your father must be present. And you said a lot of things without hitting the point. Even the comment you quoted missed it. |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 12:12pm On May 07, 2023 |
blacknp:You won't be admitted without the 1 A. What are you people smoking? |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 12:13pm On May 07, 2023 |
garfield1:Yeah, if the judges are going to bend the law |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by Spy360(m): 1:27pm On May 07, 2023 |
garfield1:My brother, there's nothing ambiguous except when we want to push our own opinions. The law is written is simple and clear English. Whatever issues you have with 25% in FCT is the same issue with 25% in 24states. This is because, the northern regions have more states than the south. The SE for example have just 5states which becomes a disadvantage for a south eastern when constesting with someone from the north west for example that has 7states. The fact is that no matter our biases, agenda, and personal opinions which may be honest intentions, the law can only be interpreted in black and white with eyes closed. I bow to your submission that the SC will do justice to the law. On a separate note my friend, what do you think about Shettima's double nomination? |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by garfield1: 1:49pm On May 07, 2023 |
Spy360:I like your submissions.there are various situations where parts of the constitution or some laws are absurd and ridiculous and the courts interpret it in the simplest possible manner.the apex court usually favour incumbents heavily in their rulings if you examine their rulings for instance in buhari cert issue,gov lalong,ayade and abiodun's qualifications and several others.only uzodinma was able to outsmart them. Concerning shettima case,the best reference will be uche nwosu vs app.again,it seems the electoral act has been amended to replace disq with imprisonment as a penalty for double nomination.moreover,the appeal court recently dismissed the case saying pdp does not have locus. Looking at the merits,the intendment is to prevent someone from being a candidate for two different posts or better still contest two different primaries.shettima contested only one primary not two.he resigned from the Senate on the 6th and was nominated for vp on 14th.as of when inec published the initial and final lists of candidates,he was having one nomination.again,it seems that the case is a pre election matter that should have been brought two weeks after publication of names |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by garfield1: 1:54pm On May 07, 2023 |
InyinyaAgbaOku:They always bend it for incumbents and when necessary |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by garfield1: 1:56pm On May 07, 2023 |
blacknp:I think section 41 and 42 |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by oyatz(m): 2:08pm On May 07, 2023 |
SpatialKing:The constitution already explicitly stated that the FCT be treated as if it were a State. |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by oyatz(m): 2:09pm On May 07, 2023 |
SpatialKing:The requirements for winning; 1) Simple majority. 2) 25% in two thirds of the Federation which is a measure of SPREAD. The FCT is not superior to 24 States. |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by oyatz(m): 2:12pm On May 07, 2023 |
SpatialKing:If the constitution want the president to get 25% in the FCT, it would been written specifically like this; 'a quarter of all the votes cast in two thirds of all the States and IN the FCT' |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by oyatz(m): 2:19pm On May 07, 2023 |
SpatialKing:When you make 25% in FCT compulsory, then the votes in FCT is automatically superior to other votes. Look at the likely scenario you will create *All candidates will make getting maximal votes in the FCT a do or die affairs *Many candidates will urge people from their ethnic groups to transfer their polling units from several States to the FCT which will become chaotic * All candidates will concentrate on the FCT: with all kinds of intimidation, rigging and this will lead to violence. There is no country where such compulsory 25% in FCT is required to win presidential election |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by oyatz(m): 2:21pm On May 07, 2023 |
Penguin2:But the constitution did use 'including the FCT' Your analogy is dead on arrival |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by oyatz(m): 2:29pm On May 07, 2023 |
SpatialKing:The Judgement the OP posted said the FCT should be treated as if it were one of the States. The constitution also stipulate this |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by Spy360(m): 2:53pm On May 07, 2023 |
garfield1:I think he submitted his withdrawal letter a day after his nomination which should disqualify him. However, I will go with your point that it's a pre-election matter and probably the court may also see it as an internal affair. |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by garfield1: 3:15pm On May 07, 2023 |
Spy360:Mere offences cannot disq someone.it must be something of fundamental nature that is something that made him gain undue advantage which he would never have gotten or something that prevented someone else from benefitting.his action didnt give him undue advantage and someone else was nominated eventually for the borno central senate...the truth is none of the charges will stick except obi has enough evidence to show he won or there was massive rigging requiring cancellations |
| Re: Fact File; Obj Vs Buhari (2003), 25% Is Compulsory In FCT. by SpatialKing(m): 6:36pm On May 07, 2023 |
oyatz:Exactly If it is treated as a state the president should be treated (act) as the governor... Hence, the 25% in FCT |
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