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komekn:
I think you are lacking both in tacit knowledge as well as a substansive understanding of the subject.

Can I ask how did your come to that conclusion.

TheGoodJoe:
Zidane could miss playing two full games and get a red card in another match in a tournament and still win the world cup. The French team were stellar. Give de Bruyne the likes of Lizarazu, Thuram, Petit, Dugarry and others and see him remake history.

Remember France could drop the likes of Cantona, Ginola. Vieira, Henry, Trezeguet, Ba, Lama on the bench. That was how stellar the French team was.

fabyom:
I watched only the first half. KDB only touched the ball 4 times in the first half. Twice before his goal and one was a corner kick. Yes he scored the equalizer but he lacks that Wow factor of a Super Star. He doesn't dominate important games. He is an effective player but won't be remembered as a great player. Comparing him to Zidane is disrespectful. He is not even on Modric level!

TheSuperNerd:
I speak of Thierry Henry's high rave on KDB. Don't deviate please.

TheSuperNerd:
Okay, don't try to pin something which isn't true to deviate from the main point. Sofascore isn't my most referenced site. Every time I drop Stats reports I draw it from a combination of different stats sites like Whoscored, Sofascore, Fotmob, Squawka and any other. It's not always and only sofascore. Sofascore don't even cover recovery Stats.

And when I drop Naija player ratings across leagues, I reference only those that indeed cover ratings like Sofascore and Whoscored. For example, Whoscored don't cover ratings concerning the La Liga Smartbank but Sofascore does, same with Fotmob.



Now, the Main Crux...

You say you aren't arguing MOTM but you went ahead to drop Sofascore's ratings of KDB as the MOTM. We both know why you did that.

Also, why talking about Camavinga not being picked as MOTM by Whoscored and Sofascore?
Fotmob picked him. So also did Squawka jointly.

KDB wasn't picked by Whoscored, Fotmob, Squawka and the CBS guys.

Rather you should be speaking of Vinicius Jr who was picked as MOTM by Whoscored, Squawka (jointly) and the CBS Sports studio (they all agreed it was Vini Jr while mentioning Cama honorably).


And I am not the one getting worked over this here, it is clearly you because you are trying persistently to subtly defend KDB's MOTM from yesterday when clearly more than 3 of the evidences presented doesn't support that stance.

Referencing Sofascore which is known for bloating up certain ratings of "popular name" players, while dumbing down others to make a certain player look good in a game context, as your only anchor in this is not cogent enough.

TheGoodJoe, being a Man City fan should not close you to clear evidence staring you in the face on who had the better game yesterday.

On Zidane, you can nod yes when I say he didn't have a better France 98 than few French players but you won't accept that KDB was clearly not the MOTM from yesterday even when that is bloody obvious. Na wa.

komekn:
Which Premier league team is going to buy them, very curious 🤔

TheGoodJoe:
Definitely, I am not the one getting worked up here. Remember you posted KDB winning Man of the match, not me.

I am just saying we don't know the statistical sources used to select the man of the match award for that game.

Despite popular opinions, sofascore picked KDB. Citing numerous sources does not change the context of my point.

My point is, we do not know how they picked their final decision.

Contradictions in choices proves we can't hinge the decision on bias.

Finito.

TheGoodJoe:
There is no deviation but pointing out that the stats of different sources clashed with general opinions. Whoscored rated Grealish over Camavinga.

TheSuperNerd:
U17 Afcon Update

Senegal vs South Africa currently in play.

First Quarter final of Algeria 2023 U17 Afcon.

#MDU17AfconDiaries

lovewins:
South Africa the better team so far in my opinion.

TheSuperNerd:
U17 Afcon Update

Senegal vs South Africa currently in play.

First Quarter final of Algeria 2023 U17 Afcon.

#MDU17AfconDiaries

lovewins:
Senegal leads.

Owngoal by South Africa.

TheSuperNerd:
Senegal up 2-0.

Another Own Goal.

Another ball sent into the box forcefully from a FK, GK fumbles it and a confused CB reacts first to the ball but kicks it into his own net.

#MDU17AfconDiaries

Setaleonoz:
Thank God say we nor jam senegal oo

dkay51:
Dem dey our front o

TheGoodJoe:
In the end, are you saying Zidane plays in a more effective manner than KDB?

My point has to do with the manner of play. I will pick KDB because his style will create more chances and goals for the team.

TheSuperNerd:
You are the one still here defending a KDB MOTM because of your man city affiliations. I posted it as I post all other football related content. I am still the same person that quoted myself to address the MOTM decision.

We do know how the MOTM was determined. Voters picked the MOTM. This is why Thierry Henry said what he said. Don't act like you don't know.

Even the evidences shown leans the most towards Vinicius Jr.

TheSuperNerd:
Senegal 4-0 SA.

#10 Amara Diouf scores his 4th Goal of the Tournament.

Initially ruled out for offside but that would have been the most ridiculous call in this game coz Omar Sall #9, was meters onside.

The South Africans simply lost it after a good first 35mins show.

Senegal indeed showing their ruthlessness.

#MDU17AfconDiaries

Napoleon55:
In the end, I'm saying that Zidan is a better player,far better.

If KDB is d most effective player,let his effectiveness win him the most prestigeuos price in the game,
that's what d most effective players in d world have done.
Iniasta and Xavi did it,chanpions league and world cup.
Pirlo did it, champions league and world cup.
Ronaldinho did it, champions league and world cup .
Toni Kroose did it,champions league and world cup.

Modric,Scholes,Lampard,Kaka, Schneider,Johan Cruf,Seedof,
All these legends have done greater things with their effectiveness more than KDB yet no one has claimed that they were better than Zidan.

Effectiveness or no effectiveness,Zidan is far better footballer.
Let KDB effectiveness deliver what other effective players above have delivered,then we can talk.

If u prefer KDB style of play,then stop saying he is better than Zidan.
If u don't stop now,those who use to love KDB will start hating on him.

TheGoodJoe:

I don't care who was the man of the match. I am more interested in the team doing well.

One day you guys will get to appreciate my contributions when you know it is devoid of bias.

You think I am posting sofascore because of Manchester City affiliation. Then you don't know me.

I judge players after a long run and not one game. So Vinicius Jr. might be the popular choice it is okay. In the match. When you posted De Bruyne as the winner, the first thing that crossed my mind was why ahead of Vinicius or Camavinga. Those were my picks.

In the commentary, the commentator singled out Rodri as his best player of the game.

So these choices have preference. What matters is the players giving good account of themselves. Not who won man of the match.

TheSuperNerd:
Since you don't care, then why have we been talking about it across several posts? Let it rest then.

You say we don't know how they named MOTM but I spilled it saying it was clearly Voters that determined it leading to Henry saying what he said.

And your contributions are well noted and even respected but not when it is clearly in anyway talking down on a clear Midfield Great all in a bid to talk up KDB of your team. It clearly reeks of bias. Just let it rest.