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MightySparrow:
I say the recent pictures taken by James Webb telescope. Read very well, better still browse the YouTube.

MightySparrow:
No my Papa teaches total reliance on God. You believe that blood transfusion not scriptural. We believe you don't need it at all.

MightySparrow:
You don't need a god to prophecy. The physic people do with accuracy. Mitchell Nostradamus, Mummy Simpson, Edgar Cayce etc.

However, for you to say that that those who believe in God are stupid is the challenge.
Like I have always argue, I have not seen how science has taken place of a personal God.

I know a bít of science myself being a Masters Degree holder in a branch of engineering. These days I read much of astrophysics. While I appreciate the giant strides in that area and the works of of people like Stephen Hawkings, Carl Sagan, Professors Wheeler, Neil Degrasse Tyson. I know many of them seem not to believe in a god. But at the frontier of scientific knowledge is uncertainty. The latest pictures by James Webb telescope cast doubt on earlier beliefs especially of Big Bang Theory.

We are not certain of the nature of atoms.

Except for the evidences of science, how it has improved the quality of life of humans, one can also query the verity of scientific knowledge.

Science has not solved all human problems. In the attempt, the solution to a problem creates another.

Can the same be said about about the inadequacies of knowledge of God? There are so many gods and many scriptures. Many gods of millennia ago are no longer in existence. Many superstitions are now debunked.

Yet, the Christian God has meandered his Acts through all all civilizations, knowledge, philosophies and has not been discarded but waxing stronger in the mind of people.

MaxInDHouse:
Surely you're not sane!
If you and your hopeless Papa can heal miraculously what are you doing with blood transfusion?

LordReed:
Really? What uncertainty do they introduce?



Huh? You mean we are not certain that atoms are made of neutrons, protons and electrons in varying configurations? What do you mean really?



A very good quality which is missing from religious faiths.


Does it need to? Does it claim to? All solutions are balancing acts, that is the nature of the universe. Not even your beliefs can negate it.




Really what did your god do to show himself to the Sioux and Aztec civilizations prior to the advent of Europeans to their continents?

MightySparrow:
For whoever needs it.

MaxInDHouse:
Then why are you lying to your soul that you can heal miraculously when you're relying on blood transfusion?

You just keep exposing yourself.

I quoted Jesus Christ saying miraculous gifts is only for the Israelites {Matthew 15:24} you look away i quoted where he said many will say they're performing miracles in his name but he will deny knowing them because they're lawless miscreants {Matthew 7:21-23} you refused to comment on that yet you're talking about the GOVERNING BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses who have nothing to be ashamed of unlike your hopeless Papa who is lying that he's performing miracles yet himself and a host of others claiming they're performing miracles in Jesus name can't agree on terms and conditions of worship.

Ọmọ you love lies o!

Jesus said he will deny you and your Papa because you people are claiming miraculous works yet you can't speak in one voice as Jesus' real disciples supposed to do! John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10

MightySparrow:
1. Verify yourself, the internet is open.
2. Which models or theory since Dalton is the the final?
3. If what you are looking for in science that makes it to retire God. It is supposed to solve all human problems.
4. God was before the civilizations you mentioned. The civilizations were not prominent, otherwise it would have been loud in the history of the world.

MightySparrow:
GB' s philosophy. Your own god don retire tay Tay. My own Jehovah lives. You are more loyal to your GB than to jehovah. What witness are you bearing for a God that says He changeth not and your GB are claiming He changes like chameleon?
Mal.3.6 - For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Jer.8.22 - Is there no balm in Gilead; is there no physician there? why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered?
Jas.1.17 - Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
Faithlessness is the motto of JWs

SIRTee15:

u failed the assignment big time...
It's either u not smart enough or u couldn't decode the correlation btw my question and your bragging, maybe it's because u don't know much about Genghis khan as u claim....as I said I will let u be.

Just go and read how Genghis khan cooled the earth during his reign and subsequent empire in the 13th century.

SIRTee15:
The belief he kept to himself were the mainstream Christian doctrine of his time that he didn't agree with.
Isaac Newton was a Unitarian Christian who opposed trinity. He also didn't believe in infant baptism or immortal soul.
Those were heresy beliefs in his days but that by no means make him an atheist or agnostic.
He believed in God and this is what he wrote when he discovered law of gravity...

This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent Being. [...] This Being governs all things, not as the soul of the world, but as Lord over all; and on account of his dominion he is wont to be called "Lord God" παντοκρατωρ [pantokratōr], or "Universal Ruler". [...] The Supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, [and] absolutely perfect.

Opposition to godliness is atheism in profession and idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors.


https://www.newtonproject.ox.ac.uk/view/texts/normalized/THEM00007

Isaac believes so much in bible prophecies that he actually tried to use mathematics to work out dates when scriptural prophecy will be fulfilled.
Go and read about his 2016 v 2060 biblical prediction.

Isaac Newton died a Christian.

U not different from other atheist I've engaged with on this forum. U will feel it's an insult when I say u guys are shallow but it's the truth.
Christians are suppose to be intellectually challenged when engaging with people like u, but reverse is the case. We are actually the ones teaching and correcting u guys.
That's why I advised one of you to go and learn from bible critics like Bart Erhman.
I'm not going to waste my afternoon on another unprofitable venture. So long and learn some manners.

LordReed:
1. I have and I didn't see the doubt you are talking about so you tell me.

2. LMAO! Dalton final? When did you learn science? 1940? We know now more than what Dalton's model provided so I still dunno what you mean.

3. Who said it is going to solve all problems? You? I certainly never said that nor do I think so in the slightest.

4. I asked a simple question: what did your god do to show himself to the Sioux and Aztec civilizations prior to the advent of Europeans to their continents? Since you said "the Christian God has meandered his Acts through all all civilizations, knowledge, philosophies", tell us what meandering occurred with the Sioux and Aztecs.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course the true God never change in all His promises He declared that His covenant is with only the descendants of Isaac {Genesis 17:18-21} and from there He passed it on to Jacob {Exodus 19:5} and His Son also confirmed that supernatural gifts is for the benefit of Jacob's descendants only! Matthew 15:24
Your GB is making true God untrue thus making yourselves false Witnesses
Isaiah 8: 18 -20

So when did God change that promise to start granting none Israelites power to perform miracles is what you should explain!

TheSourcerer:
True I have noticed for a fact the Majority are usually for lack of better words little kids, for instance take for instance Nigeria and the idea of democracy been by the Majority , lol the same Majority who are clueless of how the moon formed , who's only motivation is women with massive behinds, football fanatics , dogmaticlly religious, and yes sure the majority carrys the vote lol , ever wondered why the majority are religious?

TheSourcerer:
Please dear try to refrain from calling them names

FRANCISTOWN:
It's true, atheists don't always do names calling. The guy really struck a chord when he went hard on Jaephoenix

FRANCISTOWN:
Nothing can be truer than what you've said.
Mr. A said he got twice his money from an online money platform, lemme try that too.

Mrs. B said some god did stuff for her, many people are saying the same thing. They must be real, so lemme follow them.

Many people who are religious do not have a first class experience or an encounter with whichever god (s). What they rely on is, a deaf got healed.
Are they the deaf? No

A blind man began to see.
Are you the blind many? They'd still say "no".

Like you've said up there. This just conducted election, I didnt vote anyone but I can tell you that many people who voted a particular candidate did not even know the reason they voted him. Some were even like "Mr. A would vote him, Mr. A is very intelligent, so Mr. A must have made the right choice, so I'll vote him too"

Something the Philosophers call "An appeal to authority"

The same way some would be like "Isaac Newton was extremely brilliant, and he believed in God. He must be right, therefore lemme believe in God too, since he was far more intelligent than me"

TheSourcerer:
You are awesome trust me you completely are , the thing is why be tagged in the same conversation with them?
History online has shown arguments with them are long,stressful and usually always ever ends In A standstill , I have come to noticed that the IQ of the average Nigerian is 70 , so why do we even bother ? I'll rather sip white whine and enjoy them bask in the ambience of their arrogant ignorance and say whoa humans could be this dumb? Cool wow pastors tell you guys to eat grass now? Awesome how dumb can you go ill sit back and enjoy the show you should too

TheSourcerer:
I know but Zen always , how's your day so far?

TheSourcerer:
This is true and ironically It enables me to take reality for a ride .
You have made so many valid points I would have said myself but really don't care anymore lol #SipsWhiteWine , God rocks! Lol

TheSourcerer:
This is true and ironically It enables me to take reality for a ride .
You have made so many valid points I would have said myself but really don't care anymore lol #SipsWhiteWine , God rocks! Lol

FRANCISTOWN:
I was the one who first mentioned it to you that Sir. Isaac Newton kept some beliefs to himself. You never knew that. We are here to teach you guys.

Anyways , since you can use Google much, filtering only the info you want.

Please use Wikipedia on the religious views of Isaac Newton. It's really a bad thing to display ignorance on a public forum.

Please click on the link below

Religious views of Sir. Isaac Newton

FRANCISTOWN:
One would definitely get to a point where one wouldn't care anymore. I'm just tryna put in a lil energy for the sake of those that will find this interesting thread in the future

FRANCISTOWN:
One would definitely get to a point where one wouldn't care anymore. I'm just tryna put in a lil energy for the sake of those that will find this interesting thread in the future

FRANCISTOWN:
Lol, this with wine ehn

FRANCISTOWN:
Pretty eventful. I hope your day went well?

FRANCISTOWN:
I'll refrain from calling you names .
However, what did you ask me and what did I answer.

You asked about the carbon emission level in the 13th century.

What Genghis did was planet cooling.

Are these two things not opposite to each other?

It's like asking someone the max speed a manual car can travel at gear 4, and expecting the person to talk about the max speed the car can travel at the reverse gear.

Does this make any sense to you?

Think now

MightySparrow:
You don't seem to get my last post. I said cast some doubts not debunk. However, let them be analysing the new evidences. No knowledge of science is final. One breakthrough leads to another question. No research is ever, forever true. Tell me one.

LordReed:
I did get your point and I told you I can't find the doubt. Can you link 1 article?

Science has never declared itself one and done like religion does, why do you expect it to be?

MightySparrow:
God the creator is definite no need for renewal. You may not understand Him. Nothing changes about Him.

MightySparrow:
God the creator is definite no need for renewal. You may not understand Him. Nothing changes about Him.

MightySparrow:
Your GB is making true God untrue thus making yourselves false Witnesses
Isaiah 8: 18 -20