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Lionessza6:
The Imfecane story for me is is another one that is questionable; just like the Central African migration of the bantus to the South and the timing ofcourse . Both are always the talking points of colonisers when they want to justify mass murder and colonisation of Africa... suspicious. They are the ones who know how many people were killed, but they dont know in which area of the South and where all these bodies were buried . Suspiciously; they are always around when the history of Africa turns bad ; the mass murders are recorded by them and the invasions as well......busy bodies ...very caring colonisers . This is the same justification they use to explain why they almost wiped out Australians and Americans ; some tribes were causing problems and there were just too many uncivilized hooligans in those regions. My favourite is the discovery of America by Columbus ; the discovery of an occupied territory. The only difference is that they could easily get away with these lies over there because there are very few descendants of those people, whereas here it's not so easy , so they have to constantly edit they BS when they get exposed.

Now they are re-writing history again....this time , Africans are not indigenous in Africa . And the Khoe-San are actually white people . The whites are the actual indegenes of Africa . We make take this as a sick joke for now, but wait till they wipe out pictures of Khoisans on the net or pictures of certain African groups and replace them with Ukrainian looking Nazis . And some dunderhead Africans will actually believe this crap in like 30 years time because it will be on our curriculum .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeb2VrUlq-w

As for the Ndebeles-Zulu issue; what we do know for sure is that conflicts did break out amongst the ruling Zulu class , some people were chased out and some ran away from persecution and some so this chaotic era as a chance to still and bounce ; Zim Ndebeles .

Lionessza6,

That video stunned me a bit because of the brazenness of the white British dude tbh. The white guy was talking revisionist B.S. How can he say Khoisans are white? He must have been smoking ostrich feathers before he granted that interview! Lol

Even modern DNA ancestry tests do not support this dude's claim that Khoisans are whites or of white European descent because even on YouTube, you can easily find ancestry DNA results of Black South Africans.

Granted that in US census data, all North Africans are classified as whites. Yes Berbers and Arabs are white, but the Khoisans of Southern Africa are NOT white in completion!

Thanks for sharing the YouTube video... I never imagined that such nonsense would ever be propagated in recent times.

Eternal vigilance is key!

As for the Ndebeles who are a branch of the Zulus, they were brutal in crushing the Shona people in modern-day Zimbabwe back in the 1800s though. The history of the imfecane and the need to survive and grab new lands must have toughened the Ndebeles.

Would you settle down with a corrupted girl that used to insult you at every chance she used to have?

ghettochild:
I just dey laugh n u know why??
because u sound as if it's a common occurrence or an everyday happening.
We dated girls who hve been with SA men without discrimination n those who think because a girl has been with Nigerian men..
They don't want her.. is because of inferiority complex. They feel like they won't match the things the Nigerian man was doing whilst she dated em.

Sepukku:
THe stupidity of this whole entire analysis is nauseating and pseudo scientific. Having Khoi phenotypes does not indicate the level of Khoi ancestry in a given population of Bantu south africans. Only a sample testing of populations would indicate this and the results continue to point to levels 25% Khoi ancestry in Bantu populations.

Do you know what gene introgression is? No matter how much khoisan females joined the Bantu groups the population would still continue to have higher bantu genes in them because each time they married and bore children the Bantu genes would be reintroduced back into the population or in other words introgressed back into the population.

You really need to stop listening to your old gogo tales neh!

Nicely put.

Lionessza6:
Haven't you noticed something about a lot of Nigeria men and in particular on nairaland or social media, when the people or women they are interested in them reject them they normally go from complementing them to insults or throwing around stereotypes to bring down that group . Very weak mentality. Even with their women are not left out of this, they are quick to trash-talk them as soon as some foreign skank sings praises for them, more than likely a paid promo ofcourse, because that is not beneath them. Their need to be validated by foreign women seems to overide their senses. They cannot except that they are not everyone's cup of tea, and most people are into their own kind.

The insults man, the insults! you're right especially the men, kuthiwa nges'Xhosa "banomolomo omanzi"..it's like their default settings are set on insulting

Samantha124:
Meaning you believe that your brothers are trash, hence they attract trashy SA girls.

No meaning there are nasty people in every society and they attract each other.

Lionessza6:
LMFAO....DUH!
East Africans share the same Bantu* lineage with us so why won't there be resemblance?. But many East Africans also have those distinguishable features that can make one tell them apart from us ; long necks, very tall on average, slim.built, darker on average. So we are definitely relatives , this is no secret and I didn't dispute that here. Rwandan show more of this mixture though than others ; from my observation, in one individual you would be seeing a Kenyan or Ugandan-like traits of features, but the same person could also look like some Horner.

You've just proved the point that you were rebutting in the first place. You are indeed very confused.

Lionessza6:
I'm unshaken , and I'm glad you finally accepted that no untransparatent academic journals or research* will ever overide sense and instinct with people like me.

ignorance is bliss so they say.

KingCold:
The insults man, the insults! you're right especially the men, kuthiwa nges'Xhosa "banomolomo omanzi"..it's like their default settings are set on insulting

All we need to do is tune in to a myriad of shows on Mzansi fo sho and you peoples dirtly laundry can be seen everywhere.

Should I post some for all to see?

Let me know neh!

Samantha124:
Would you settle down with a corrupted girl that used to insult you at every chance she used to have?

I object to the use of the word "corrupted" here as it is insidious in nature and connotates some holy status these girls had prior to be corrupted.

South Africans girls in general are definitely no angels from the get go so stop trying to paint them as such.

I am speaking from experience.

cejaypriesty:
I don't live in SA neither do I have any bias against any country or race in the world.

I asked a polite question I even told Samantha not to take it personal .

This is the impression I got from friends that stay in SA.All I wanted was to be answered and corrected if im wrong and not to engage in a quarrel .Besides I asked Samantha and not you,do have a great day.

Your question is not polite at all, it's a continuation of this smear campaign, this misinformation and half-truths, and this weird obsession you people have for SA men, if really you're looking for loafers, look no further than your own countrymen who do nothing in SA but stan in groups of 10 in Hillbrow pavements and make noise the whole day while we go to work.

XAUBulls:
Lionessza6,

That video stunned me a bit because of the brazenness of the white British dude tbh. The white guy was talking revisionist B.S. How can he say Khoisans are white? He must have been smoking ostrich feathers before he granted that interview! Lol

Even modern DNA ancestry tests do not support this dude's claim that Khoisans are whites or of white European descent because even on YouTube, you can easily find ancestry DNA results of Black South Africans.

Granted that in US census data, all North Africans are classified as whites. Yes Berbers and Arabs are white, but the Khoisans of Southern Africa are NOT white in completion!

Thanks for sharing the YouTube video... I never imagined that such nonsense would ever be propagated in recent times.

Eternal vigilance is key!

As for the Ndebeles who are a branch of the Zulus, they were brutal in crushing the Shona people in modern-day Zimbabwe back in the 1800s though. The history of the imfecane and the need to survive and grab new lands must have toughened the Ndebeles.

ANy right thinking person can detect that the video is pure rubbish and wouldn't pass any test of scrutiny.

Study the dutch calvanist ideologies that were very strong in White Boer south african history and you will get your answers on where this thought process comes from.

Sepukku:
All we need to do is tune in to a myriad of shows on Mzansi fo sho and you peoples dirtly laundry can be seen everywhere.

Should I post some for all to see?

Let me know neh!

Don't care what you do with your time.

What do you know about speaking from experience when you just lived in SA only for a short period of time? I was born and raised here and I'm a full South African, I know this country and it's people far better than you'll ever know.

You can't tell me about my people.

You even admitted yourself that your brothers attract trashy SA girls.

Sepukku:
I object to the use of the word "corrupted" here as it is insidious in nature and connotates some holy status these girls had prior to be corrupted.

South Africans girls in general are definitely no angels from the get go so stop trying to paint them as such.

I am speaking from experience.

There's a meaning for everything and you've already admitted the truth..

No need to try to contradict yourself.

Sepukku:
No meaning there are nasty people in every society and they attract each other.

From the look of things, it's like insults are part of their culture... They were taught to use insults from a very young age whenever someone doesn't agree with them.

KingCold:
The insults man, the insults! you're right especially the men, kuthiwa nges'Xhosa "banomolomo omanzi"..it's like their default settings are set on insulting

Samantha124:
There's a meaning for everything and you've already admitted the truth..

No need to try to contradict yourself.

If you wish to read my statements as such well that's your bias but I think anyone with enough intelligence can decipher what I mean.

KingCold:
Your question is not polite at all, it's a continuation of this smear campaign, this misinformation and half-truths, and this weird obsession you people have for SA men, if really you're looking for loafers, look no further than your own countrymen who do nothing in SA but stan in groups of 10 in Hillbrow pavements and make noise the whole day while we go to work.

Is xenophobia and hatred for other African nationalities also half truth and obsession 🤣

Samantha124:
What do you know about speaking from experience when you just lived in SA only for a short period of time?

You assume I lived in SA for a short period of time. I never told you how long I was there. I am not responsible for your iresponsible assumptions.

Samantha124:
I was born and raised here and I'm a full South African, I know this country and it's people far better than you'll ever know.

NO contention there but how does that prove that you are fully knowledgeable of the subject matter. Spending a far considerable amount of time in SA doesn't necessarilly mean you are more knowledgeable about a subject matter. The facts remain the most important factor that matters.

For all I know you could have been living in the middle of Thabong all your entire life and never ventured out till of recent.

Samantha124:
You even admitted yourself that your brothers attract trashy SA girls.

A fact is not an admission. It is fact.

As factual as stating that SA women of all works are far more highly promiscious in comparison to other African women I have encountered.

KingCold:
Don't care what you do with your time.

I already know that but that's not what matters.

What matters is the truth.

Samantha124:
From the look of things, it's like insults are part of their culture... They were taught to use insults from a very young age whenever someone doesn't agree with them.

Ahhh, you are beginning to understand.

So because you guys choose to go for trashy SA girls, you assume that all SA girls are promiscuous just because those are the kinds of girls you like to go for when you come here?

What you're basically saying is that if you come to SA and like certain SA food, you'll then assume that all SA food are the same and SA people like such food just because you like it yourself?? Like really??🤣🤣

Sepukku:
You assume I lived in SA for a short period of time. I never told you how long I was there. I am not responsible for your iresponsible assumptions.


NO contention there but how does that prove that you are fully knowledgeable of the subject matter. Spending a far considerable amount of time in SA doesn't necessarilly mean you are more knowledgeable about a subject matter. The facts remain the most important factor that matters.

For all I know you could have been living in the middle of Thabong all your entire life and never ventured out till of recent.




A fact is not an admission. It is fact.

As factual as stating that SA women of all works are far more highly promiscious in comparison to other African women I have encountered.

Samantha124:
So because you guys choose to go for trashy SA girls, you assume that all SA girls are promiscuous just because those are the kinds of girls you like to go for when you come here?

What you're basically saying is that if you come to SA and like certain SA food, you'll then assume that all SA food are the same and SA people like such food just because you like it yourself?? Like really??🤣🤣

I never generalize however what is factually true is that It is far easier for you to find a situation where a SA girl (trashy or classy for that matter) cheats on her boyfriend than say a Ghanian girl living in SA. It is part of the culture.

So you're admitting the fact that you guys like using insults whenever someone doesn't agree with you because you don't take disagreements and rejections lightly?

Sepukku:
Ahhh, you are beginning to understand.

Dude, just because you guys like such girls, it doesn't have to mean that all SA girls are like that... You guys are the ones attracted to such girls..🤣🤣🤣

It's not our fault that you can't attract decent SA girls.

Already you admitted to everything.

And I'm done with you because you keep shooting yourself in the foot.

Sepukku:
I never generalize however what is factually true is that It is far easier for you to find a situation where a SA girl (trashy or classy for that matter) cheats on her boyfriend than say a Ghanian girl living in SA. It is part of the culture.

Samantha124:
So you're admitting the fact that you guys like using insults whenever someone doesn't agree with you because you don't take disagreements and rejections lightly?

No, not because we "don't take disagreements and rejections lightly" but this is a normalized reaction when arguing.

Samantha124:
Dude, just because you guys like such girls, it doesn't have to mean that all SA girls are like that... You guys are the ones attracted to such girls..🤣🤣🤣

It's not our fault that you can't attract decent SA girls.

Already you admitted to everything.

And I'm done with you because you keep shooting yourself in the foot.

You are such a child. Stop trying to reinforce your stereotypes of what you believe All Nigerians to be and pay attention to what I just said.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Sepukku:
You are such a child. Stop trying to reinforce your stereotypes of what you believe All Nigerians to be and pay attention to what I just said.

Normalized reaction to use insults for you Nigerians, right?🤣🤣🤣

Sepukku:
No, not because we "don't take disagreements and rejections lightly" but this is a normalized reaction when arguing.

Samantha124:
Normalized reaction to use insults for you Nigerians, right?🤣🤣🤣

As normal as the way a lot of South African girls from locations drop their offspring off for their gogos to take care of.

Its normalized culture.

Sepukku:
ANy right thinking person can detect that the video is pure rubbish and wouldn't pass any test of scrutiny.

Study the dutch calvanist ideologies that were very strong in White Boer south african history and you will get your answers on where this thought process comes from.

Indeed... I remember watching a late 1950s school debate featuring 4 African school students in the U.S. [which was uploaded online] and a white school girl from South African was vehemently propagating the doctrine of "whites came to South Africa before the Bantus," so I'm NOT too surprised by the white dude's rants in that video.

During the debate, the eloquent Black school boy of 16 years who incidentally was from Nigeria took her up and tore the white South Afrcan school girl's supremacist points of view to shreds by citing the historical study of a British historian on how the Bantus and Boers arrived in what is now South Africa. So, there was media propaganda and indoctrination of kids in SA schools back then, but the REST of Africa and indeed the world knew what was going on in South Africa to Black South Africans whose's lands were forcibly taken from them by the white settlers.

Thank you for your admission... At least we'll now know that you guys normalize using insults on a daily basis.

And at least those girls don't do multiple abortions like most of your girls do just to appear as decent girls to the society when they would've done countless abortions for you Nigerian guys... You'd even pay them money to do those abortions.

Anyway, I'm done with you.

Sepukku:
As normal as the way a lot of South African girls from locations drop their offspring off for their gogos to take care of.

Its normalized culture.

Samantha124:
Thank you for your admission... At least we'll now know that you guys normalize using insults on a daily basis.

An admission would only mean something was being concealed regarding what is a conversational norm in Nigerian culture.

I understand its a learning experience for you though, part of educating yourself on Nairaland. Keep it up.

Samantha124:
And at least those girls don't do multiple abortions like most of your girls do just to appear as decent girls to the society when they would've done countless abortions for you Nigerian guys... You'd even pay them money to do those abortions

This is besides the point being made but then again you are a child so your reactions would be to go there. I understand.

Wrong it wrong in any society.

XAUBulls:
Indeed... I remember watching a late 1950s school debate featuring 4 African school students in the U.S. [which was uploaded online] and a white school girl from South African was vehemently propagating the doctrine of "whites came to South Africa before the Bantus," so I'm NOT too surprised by the white dude's rants in that video.

During the debate, the eloquent Black school boy of 16 years who incidentally was from Nigeria took her up and tore the white South Afrcan school girl's supremacist points of view to shreds by citing the historical study of a British historian on how the Bantus and Boers arrived in what is now South Africa. So, there was media propaganda and indoctrination of kids in SA schools back then, but the REST of Africa and indeed the world knew what was going on in South Africa to Black South Africans whose's lands were forcibly taken from them by the white settlers.

I love that clip from Youtube, it demonstrated the eloquence of the Nigerian mindset at that period(especially form the southern part of the country) of history compared to other Africans and is truly a gem that should be shared as much as possible.