₦airaland Forum

Odogwuzack:
The ongoing Tribunal is just an academic exercise.

Tinubu won fair and square.

go and watch the BBC report. If you still believe that tinubu won the election then you need a doctor not a political analyst.

Penguin2:
How can we not be talking about turnout when it is turnout that produces the votes?

And going by the data for the Plateau governorship election which recorded 1.2million votes, do you not think it’s possible the presidential election recorded even more with majority of voters voting in one direction for Obi which could have truly given Obi the above 1million votes as some are claiming?

Tinubu was inexistent in Plateau before the election that’s why even Plateau indigenes are are marveled at the votes allotted to Tinubu in Plateau because they know they didn’t vote for him.

Or have you forgotten the Plateau man that had to flee after DSS tried arrest because of his open protest of results from Plateau?

Even in ekiti,people protested the results you stop talking rubbish.tje social media noise really affected you.
Plateau has 2.4 mil voters with 2 mil PVC collected.if we go by your figure,then a total of 1.8 mil voted out of 2 mil PVC holders which is clearly impossible.the 1.1 mil turnout is consistent with national figures.
Saying tinubu is non existent in plateau is lunacy.the incumbent government in plateau and dg of tinubu is apc.even buhari with all the fulani killings got 40%

Tinubu didn't win
Kano
Katsina
Kaduna
Rivers state
Anambara state
Lagos state
Osun state
Akwaibom
Delta state
Abuja
Yet some tribalistic bigot and religious fanatics want us to believe that Tinubu won the election. How possible?

What tinubu and Yakubu did was to reduce the number of opposition votes in every state.

ProphetM0hammad:
The party agents themselves did the rigging.

In Anambra nobody will go against rigging for labor party, pdp and apc agents dare not talk so as not to be lynched.

APC is not just interested in attacking LP with rigging allegations for now. They want to report their victory in court and move on

Study this polling unit sheet and say your observations

In 2019 PDP recorded over 92% with Obi as Atiku’s vice Tell me why he shouldn't get 98% in this election?

kaey10:
In 2019 PDP recorded over 92% with Obi as Atiku’s vice Tell me why he shouldn't get 98% in this election?

It's still same thing all politicians/parties rigs election.

Can you say for certain that pdp didn't rig the 2019 election

garfield1:
Even in ekiti,people protested the results you stop talking rubbish.tje social media noise really affected you.
Plateau has 2.4 mil voters with 2 mil PVC collected.if we go by your figure,then a total of 1.8 mil voted out of 2 mil PVC holders which is clearly impossible.the 1.1 mil turnout is consistent with national figures.
Saying tinubu is non existent in plateau is lunacy.the incumbent government in plateau and dg of tinubu is apc.even buhari with all the fulani killings got 40%

A lot of insults🤦. Quite uncharacteristic of you. I must be getting on your nerves 😟.

Meanwhile, if you argue that because Lalong was Tinubu’s DG therefore Tinubu was popular in Plateau, it would amount to arguing that because Okowa was Atiku’s running mate therefore Atiku was popular in Delta. Does that make sense?

No
The total Rivers States votes were less than half a million

If you dash all rivers state votes to Peter Obi he still came 3rd

Double the votes of Peter Obi in all five south east states that LP rigged, Baba Tinubu still beats him hands down.

Mjshexy:
That's just one state out of about 12 states they rigged without conscience, the truth is gradually being exposed so let's keep watching

My view is that INEC should withdraw their defence of this election at the tribunal and be a witness. This a big indictment on INEC and the whole election

Penguin2:
A lot of insults🤦. Quite uncharacteristic of you. I must be getting on your nerves 😟.

Meanwhile, if you argue that because Lalong was Tinubu’s DG therefore Tinubu was popular in Plateau, it would amount to arguing that because Okowa was Atiku’s running mate therefore Atiku was popular in Delta. Does that make sense?

We are not talking of popularity but party strength.tinubu might not be popular but his party is strong enough to give him25% in plateau.that is where obi failed and where strong parties like pdp would have helped him.obi depended on his popularity and where he wasn't he failed.tinub depended on both

Popesuccess:
My view is that INEC should withdraw their defence of this election at the tribunal and be a witness. This a big indictment on INEC and the whole election

.obi sued inec so they sued defend

Bringbackmandat:
Tinubu didn't win
Kano
Katsina
Kaduna
Rivers state
Anambara state
Lagos state
Osun state
Akwaibom
Delta state
Abuja
Yet some tribalistic bigot and religious fanatics want us to believe that Tinubu won the election. How possible?

Is it compulsory to win those areas?

garfield1:
We are not talking of popularity but party strength.tinubu might not be popular but his party is strong enough to give him25% in plateau.that is where obi failed and where strong parties like pdp would have helped him.obi depended on his popularity and where he wasn't he failed.tinub depended on both

So PDP is not popular in Delta?

Penguin2:
So PDP is not popular in Delta?

Despite obi popularity, pdp was strong enough to get 25%

garfield1:
Despite obi popularity, pdp was strong enough to get 25%

Tinubu got over 300k votes in Plateau. He doesn’t merit it and it is not the true reflection of what happened in Plateau.

Even though Okowa rigged Delta to give Atiku 25%, Lalong’s rigging in Plateau was criminal.

Penguin2:
One of the, if not the only, line of defense of Tinubu supporters since incontrovertible evidences emerged that Peter Obi won Rivers but INEC criminally called it for Tinubu as has been reported by a lot of reputable media platforms including the BBC, is that “even if the Rivers result is added to Obi, he will still not be above Tinubu.”

One of them (Ireportlive) even went as far as admitting that Lagos was equally rigged for Tinubu but that even if both Lagos and Rivers results are given to Obi (the original owner by the way), he’d still top Tinubu.

But are there really no implication to these reports of Obi winning Rivers? Is it as easy as Tinubu supporters are trying to make it sound? I guess not.

The first thing to consider here is that if the evidences become overwhelming that the PEPT was convinced that Peter Obi won Rivers, and they decide to add the state to him, the implication is that Tinubu will be left with 11 states where he secured victory while Obi will now move to 13 states. What this means is that if at the end of the Tribunals, the courts decide to order a run off, it will now be between Tinubu who won simple majority of votes and Peter Obi who won most states of 13 against Atiku’s 12.

Furthermore, if Obi is able to prove in court that it is not only Rivers State that his votes were taken, that it happened in other states, and the court agrees to recalculate the numbers, Obi might not end up topping Tinubu but he’d most likely end up displacing Atiku to become the second person in the election. The implication of this is that in the event that Tinubu is disqualified, for whichever of the many grounds seeking his disqualification, it is Peter Obi, not Atiku, that would then become the direct beneficiary of his disqualification.

Then lastly, if it can be proven that INEC manipulated results in Rivers to favour Tinubu, how are we sure it is not what they did nationwide? INEC would have to show cause why it should not be believed that they used the Rivers template nationwide in support of Tinubu.

So, my point is that Tinubu supporters should not take the reports of Obi winning Rivers as inconsequential. It has the tendency to cause a spiral that could further nail Tinubu’s chances.

Nyesom Wike was more of a curse to Tinubu than a blessing. He’d end up being Tinubu’s undertaker.

The manipulations were done in many states, not only Rivers. So, wait for the results of the investigations from other states.

Penguin2:
Lol! Would you have said all these things if this report was against Obi?

So BBC will allow their reputation to be put in line by their ‘Igbo staff’?

I doñ't chew with two sides of my mouth, if an article that doñ't hold water is written against Obi, the average BATist dismisses it, we are not as petty as u guys.
Do u even realize BBC has sections?
BBC doñ't care about ur election, u can try to magnify the article as large as u want, u know fully well it's an article by Obi's sûppôrters trying so hard to make the world believe a faîIûré in governance like Obi is coming to transform Nigèria.
Someone like Chimamanda, Iweala etc are so disàppointèd they doñ't have an lgb0 prèsîdéñt, they can do anything they like.
If CNN can allow Zain or whatever to do d sh*t she is doing, d pettiness she is displaying on screen under CNN, if CNN allows it, it simply shows u how they doñ't care.

Penguin2:
Our permutations worked 100 percent.

Your lords and masters got jittery and had to turn off the IREV to stop him.

If elections were transparent Tinubu would have come distant third.

That means the LP senators and HOR that got elected through an election that's not transparent?
If the election is rerun a 100 times, Obi's votes will be dwindling.
Atiku, Obi and Kwankwaso shared the votes belonging to a single party.
The average PDP supporter who understands pólitîcs knows that the 3 people lost because they divided their votes.
U Ióst already, at this rate, u guys have lost the 2027 elections already.

Penguin2:
Tinubu got over 300k votes in Plateau. He doesn’t merit it and it is not the true reflection of what happened in Plateau.

Even though Okowa rigged Delta to give Atiku 25%, Lalong’s rigging in Plateau was criminal.

Okowa rigging was more glaring.lp won all the lgas in delta north except okowa lga.again,okowa lga helped pdp win senate.PDP also won southern parts of delta.
But in plateau,lalong lost his lga and lost his senate race to show you that he couldn't rig.apc won only three lgas of wase,kanam and kanke.wase and kanam are dominated by Muslim/fulani settlers who have always voted against pdp.kanke is where the apc guber candidate is from and it was a close shave.lp won jos north narrowly because pdp divided the Muslim votes.

Popesuccess:
My view is that INEC should withdraw their defence of this election at the tribunal and be a witness. This a big indictment on INEC and the whole election

The electoral body is already wholly enmeshed in this craziness coordinated by yakubu, we are waiting to see how they intend to dabble out of it.

JagabanBorgu:
I doñ't chew with two sides of my mouth, if an article that doñ't hold water is written against Obi, the average BATist dismisses it, we are not as petty as u guys.
Do u even realize BBC has sections?
BBC doñ't care about ur election, u can try to magnify the article as large as u want, u know fully well it's an article by Obi's sûppôrters trying so hard to make the world believe a faîIûré in governance like Obi is coming to transform Nigèria.
Someone like Chimamanda, Iweala etc are so disàppointèd they doñ't have an lgb0 prèsîdéñt, they can do anything they like.
If CNN can allow Zain or whatever to do d sh*t she is doing, d pettiness she is displaying on screen under CNN, if CNN allows it, it simply shows u how they doñ't care.

CNN and BBC are promoting the truth. They are not doing ‘shit’. You call it shit because it’s unpalatable in your mouth that those truths you wanna hide so much are being spoken of by reputable international platforms of CNN and BBC standing.

Or are you saying there are no BATists or Yorubas working in either CNN or BBC? Why can’t they just write what they like and publish in favour of Tinubu since you are claiming anyone can just log into BBC website and post what they like?

garfield1:
Okowa rigging was more glaring.lp won all the lgas in delta north except okowa lga.again,okowa lga helped pdp win senate.PDP also won southern parts of delta.
But in plateau,lalong lost his lga and lost his senate race to show you that he couldn't rig.apc won only three lgas of wase,kanam and kanke.wase and kanam are dominated by Muslim/fulani settlers who have always voted against pdp.kanke is where the apc guber candidate is from and it was a close shave.lp won jos north narrowly because pdp divided the Muslim votes.

Obi got over 1million votes in Plateau. But INEC criminally reduced those votes and shared some to Atiku and some to Tinubu, and we will prove this in court.

JagabanBorgu:
That means the LP senators and HOR that got elected through an election that's not transparent?
If the election is rerun a 100 times, Obi's votes will be dwindling.
Atiku, Obi and Kwankwaso shared the votes belonging to a single party.
The average PDP supporter who understands pólitîcs knows that the 3 people lost because they divided their votes.
U Ióst already, at this rate, u guys have lost the 2027 elections already.

How many times have you heard it said all over national television stations that National Assembly results were transmitted while that of presidential election refused to transmit? It is the reason a lot of people don’t believe the technical glitches narrative from INEC.

Penguin2:
Obi got over 1million votes in Plateau. But INEC criminally reduced those votes and shared some to Atiku and some to Tinubu, and we will prove this in court.

Tell obi to get 1 mil in anambra first.deep down,you know obi lost.you are just making childish noise as usual

garfield1:
Tell obi to get 1 mil in anambra first.deep down,you know obi lost.you are just making childish noise as usual

As usual?

Tell me what I’ve told you before that didn’t happen like I said it would?

And yes, Obi won the election.

Penguin2:
As usual?

Tell me what I’ve told you before that didn’t happen like I said it would?

And yes, Obi won the election.

By losing massively in zamfara,sokoto,kano,katsina,kebbi,jigawa,borno,yobe,bauchi,gombe,ekiti,osun,ondo,kogi,kwara,niger,ogun or for your ipobic dream?
Obi lowest votes came from bayelsa and aks as I told you

Penguin2:
How many times have you heard it said all over national television stations that National Assembly results were transmitted while that of presidential election refused to transmit? It is the reason a lot of people don’t believe the technical glitches narrative from INEC.

Because LP members won, that election is now transparent without glitches.
If INEC had declared Obi the winner u will say the process was transparent.
National TV like arise where the TV is run by Obi supporters?

Penguin2:
CNN and BBC are promoting the truth. They are not doing ‘shit’. You call it shit because it’s unpalatable in your mouth that those truths you wanna hide so much are being spoken of by reputable international platforms of CNN and BBC standing.

Or are you saying there are no BATists or Yorubas working in either CNN or BBC? Why can’t they just write what they like and publish in favour of Tinubu since you are claiming anyone can just log into BBC website and post what they like?

It's obvious from ur replies u don't know BBC or CNN.
Typical Obi supporter trait.
Emergency experts

garfield1:
By losing massively in zamfara,sokoto,kano,katsina,kebbi,jigawa,borno,yobe,bauchi,gombe,ekiti,osun,ondo,kogi,kwara,niger,ogun or for your ipobic dream?
Obi lowest votes came from bayelsa and aks as I told you

Did Obi or any of his supporters, including myself, ever told you he was going to win the states you mentioned?

And why are you suddenly suspending reason to become as combative and insultive as other Tinubu Owambe boys?

JagabanBorgu:
It's obvious from ur replies u don't know BBC or CNN.
Typical Obi supporter trait.
Emergency experts

Hasn’t answered my question…

If it’s easy to post anything in BBC and CNN, why hasn’t Tinubu supporters posted their own version of what happened in 2023 elections in Nigeria?

Penguin2:
Did Obi or any of his supporters, including myself, ever told you he was going to win the states you mentioned?

And why are you suddenly suspending reason to become as combative and insultive as other Tinubu Owambe boys?

Unreasonable,ridiculous and nonsensical statements evokes combative reactions...
Obi's failure in those aforementioned states was why he never won.how will you win when you are scoring less than 10k in about ten States with massive voting strengths? How are you going to recover from those deficits? Even if obi won in nc,he would still have lost.tinubu only scored below 10k in just 3 states.how many times did I tell you that the nw votes will dwarf obi votes in se?