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Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by phorget(m): 10:37am On May 17, 2023
Bashirkareem31:
Na today you dey know the yanmiris?Always bringing competitions and comparisons to every issues.Same way they destroyed the unity of the country with the 1966 igbo coup



Since 1966 yet you cant still get your acts together, I'm sure the yanmiris must have used Nuclear arsenal to destroy such unity... undecided
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Fiscus105(m): 10:38am On May 17, 2023
I sorry for hypocrisy of Islamic faithfuls. Most especially in naija.
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by seunayantokun(m): 10:39am On May 17, 2023
Since Adamu has said it first, let's add that dark hearts, poverty, war, terrorism, and sex-and-food mentality were propagated by some religious crooks in most subsaharan African countries.
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by adabaraabdul: 10:40am On May 17, 2023
alpharoyalty:
Good talk.
In my honest opinion, the situation will not change until we introduce selection of people into government, military, schools and civil services based on merit and not quota system.
The quota system that they are enjoying is one of the reasons they don't take education serious.
For instance, majority of important civil services from custom, npc, nnpc are populated with unqualified and inept individuals and they have subsequently succeeded in collapsing those sectors of the country. Same thing with the military and governance.
I am yet to understand how Nigerians can entrust their country to illiterates.
I am also yet to understand why we will promote an individual in the military or civil service based on quota system and not competence.
Until we introduce merit, like in all progressive countries, Nigeria can never move forward
You have a strong point. I am also going to discuss this issue from another angle. We know it for a fact that the level of education is really low in the North compared to let's say the west, in a scenario where Quota system is not used, dont you think that a situation may arise where most positions in the country will have no northerner or very few? and would we not be back to that lack of inclusiveness that the quotation system seems to avert?
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Macmoni(m): 10:43am On May 17, 2023
mrvitalis:
How Igbos went from least educated to most educated tribe in Nigeria in 100 years despite the war should be studied by the north

1) how many community schools do you have in the north ?

2) what of religious funded schools ?

80% of the primary and secondary in the east is either community schools or church schools

If people can come together to build mosques ,market why any they build road

Mbaise people are presently planning to build community university funded by our people


There is no excuse for the north they just dont value education
I know you people will always compare that’s why you always fail
Nobody is in a competition with you
Why must you bring tribalism into everything ?
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by BluntCrazeMan: 10:44am On May 17, 2023
So, the FG is now blatantly blaming the Northerners,, and also blaming religion at the same time.??


Wharraa'Helll
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by DatNaijaGuy: 10:44am On May 17, 2023
If it was Peter Obi that made this statement, heads would have been rolling.
Thank God it came from one of their own.
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Nobody: 10:44am On May 17, 2023
Islam is the cause of them backwardness.


It's Even worst in Arab regions, Saudi and others escaped it because they embraced America.

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Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by ostartruth: 10:45am On May 17, 2023
What has education in the WEST changed in Nigeria. Has it stopped them from being tribal bigots? Has it stopped them from imposing a lame duck on Nigeria? Has it made Nigeria refine all her crude products domestically?

I even prefer an illiterate north with moral understanding and conscience that all Nigerian Educational system that produces people with fine airs but little senses.
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Pootle: 10:45am On May 17, 2023
love the honesty here
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by joefelin2345: 10:46am On May 17, 2023
GeneralPula:
In 859 AD, one Fatima Al-Fihri (sic), a woman-Muslim woman established the first university in the world, at the time, the Italian universities, Oxford, Cambridge universities had not started, the first university was still existing there, it is now in Morocco.

And about 100 years after that one, another university was established, the second university in the world before the universities of Europe, in Cairo and just like the first one, this university was established by a Muslim woman, Fatimatu Zahara (sic).

Nice to know..
Oga is Timbukut now Morocco? Bc I understand that the first University started there o. Just asking ?
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by KENFERDYOORI(m): 10:49am On May 17, 2023
'Educational backwardness ' smiley meanwhile they continue to rule. What a paradox!
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Adesmail09(m): 10:49am On May 17, 2023
This man may be sick in the head maybe. He is talking about 2 contrasting things: Backwardness if North in terms of Education and Women Education not promoted in the North. The two assertions are wrong. Some of the best Universities are in the North, some world renowned technicians are northerners, the North has produced most presidents of Nigeria and If you have had to compete academically with an intelligent Northerner, you'll understand. Secondly, we almost had a Woman Governor in Adamawa and Taraba, the Minister of Humanitarian affairs and some others are northern women. How's that backwardness. It's understandable that tangible part of the population didn't have western education but most Northerner have a good level of Islamic education.
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Nolevel666: 10:57am On May 17, 2023
adabaraabdul:
You have a strong point. I am also going to discuss this issue from another angle. We know it for a fact that the level of education is really low in the North compared to let's say the west, in a scenario where Quota system is not used, dont you think that a situation may arise where most positions in the country will have no northerner or very few? and would we not be back to that lack of inclusiveness that the quotation system seems to avert?

Meritocracy is the mother of development!

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Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Nolevel666: 11:00am On May 17, 2023
Adesmail09:
This man may be sick in the head maybe. He is talking about 2 contrasting things: Backwardness if North in terms of Education and Women Education not promoted in the North. The two assertions are wrong. Some of the best Universities are in the North, some world renowned technicians are northerners, the North has produced most presidents of Nigeria and If you have had to compete academically with an intelligent Northerner, you'll understand. Secondly, we almost had a Woman Governor in Adamawa and Taraba, the Minister of Humanitarian affairs and some others are northern women. How's that backwardness. It's understandable that tangible part of the population didn't have western education but most Northerner have a good level of Islamic education.

Mumu how many core northerners go to school more than they stay in the mosque?

Illiterate

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Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Izi91: 11:00am On May 17, 2023
For sure! The north cherish killing in the name of fighting for Allah instead of educating themselves.
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Monique60: 11:03am On May 17, 2023
Apt!
alpharoyalty:
Good talk.
In my honest opinion, the situation will not change until we introduce selection of people into government, military, schools and civil services based on merit and not quota system.
The quota system that they are enjoying is one of the reasons they don't take education serious.
For instance, majority of important civil services from custom, npc, nnpc are populated with unqualified and inept individuals and they have subsequently succeeded in collapsing those sectors of the country. Same thing with the military and governance.
I am yet to understand how Nigerians can entrust their country to illiterates.
I am also yet to understand why we will promote an individual in the military or civil service based on quota system and not competence.
Until we introduce merit, like in all progressive countries, Nigeria can never move forward
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by okoroemeka(m): 11:03am On May 17, 2023
alpharoyalty:
Good talk.
In my honest opinion, the situation will not change until we introduce selection of people into government, military, schools and civil services based on merit and not quota system.
The quota system that they are enjoying is one of the reasons they don't take education serious.
For instance, majority of important civil services from custom, npc, nnpc are populated with unqualified and inept individuals and they have subsequently succeeded in collapsing those sectors of the country. Same thing with the military and governance.
I am yet to understand how Nigerians can entrust their country to illiterates.
I am also yet to understand why we will promote an individual in the military or civil service based on quota system and not competence.
Until we introduce merit, like in all progressive countries, Nigeria can never move forward
merit and competence has been sacrificed on the altars of mediocrity and nepotism,Islam is not an excuse for illetracy and backwardness,the first scientists,mathematicians,explorers,adventurers and thinkers are moslems and moors,it is how we interpret Islam in Nigeria that is the problem

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Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by zeyt: 11:05am On May 17, 2023
Truth be told it's not religion but culture. Hausa culture is interwoven with religion to the point you can not separate the two or tell them apart. Hausa man will reproduce a large number of children he can not handle if you ask him why he will tell you he is serving his religion and God will take care of them for him. But in reality it's Hausa culture in past that a man with more children gets more helping hand in his farm.
Women are discouraged by culture to pursue education. The more educated you are the less likely to get a husband. A man with a lot of children will send some to Almajiri School to get rid of their responsibility.
A Hausa will tell you family planning is a sin and an abomination yet he will reproduce and won't care for the children in terms of modern education.
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Eriokanmi: 11:13am On May 17, 2023
F A C T.!

There are also some south west states who once toed this path before Awolowo liberated them. Kwara is even worse off. Only the igbomina and ekiti-kwara people are the most educated zones in kwara till date. I could count the number of Ilorin indigenes in the entire faculty in those days.

Oyo state used to be educationally backward too, especially the old oyo state. Things are changing now. Till today, Ekiti is still far more educated than oyo state, though they're picking up fast. Northern people too are waking up. Its better late than never but the difference between North and South can not be filled, not even in 50 years to come, provided the south remains in same position, which isn't possible.
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Sleekfingers: 11:15am On May 17, 2023
Lamido sanusi said , something similar. But y'all idiots gang up against him.
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by dazzlingd(m): 11:16am On May 17, 2023
Not just North but the entire Africa
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by slowice(m): 11:17am On May 17, 2023
The north focus too much on religion and political power while letting destroying education totally.


If they don't deliberately redirect their focus with aim of improving themselves educationally and break the strong hold of religious extremism, they will self destruct in the long run and it will lead the Nigeria's end.

We may not be here when it happens but that's where everything is currently tilting to
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by calmandwild101(m): 11:20am On May 17, 2023
ImpregnaTor:
Wonder how a sane, 21st century man will comfortable follow Islam.

All religion are outdated but Islam is still stuck in 1567 and too rigid, which is not suitable for a modern society
That is an insensitive words.just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean you should condemn it.In whatever religious you practice,I believe there are some people in it who never ready to evolve beyond the religion
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by emapeteum(m): 11:20am On May 17, 2023
GeneralPula:
In 859 AD, one Fatima Al-Fihri (sic), a woman-Muslim woman established the first university in the world, at the time, the Italian universities, Oxford, Cambridge universities had not started, the first university was still existing there, it is now in Morocco.

And about 100 years after that one, another university was established, the second university in the world before the universities of Europe, in Cairo and just like the first one, this university was established by a Muslim woman, Fatimatu Zahara (sic).

Nice to know..
but quranic school, not University as such
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by LeopardX: 11:20am On May 17, 2023
It is gradually creeping to the south west.
Thank God for private individuals here who build private schools and uphold the standard of education in Yoruba land.

I'm not sure Ogun state govt has even rehabilitated any secondary School for the past 8 years.

Ondo state governor is only interested in crying about herdsmen and talking about amotekun, just like Ortom.

Again, thank God for private individuals. Southwestern politicians no longer prioritize the education of their people.
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by DeKing234: 11:20am On May 17, 2023
fawaz050:


I am yet to understand how Nigerians can entrust their country to illiterates.

I can't seem to fathom the bolded too.

We have people in AFDB, WTO et al. There was even a time when the smartest UK family was a Nigerian family.

yet, the worst of us rules us.

Our problem is beyond comprehension.

Only 6 Nigerians Signed The Amalgamation Document In 1914, namely:


1.HRH Maiturare Sarkin Mussulumi and Sultan of Sokoto
2. Usuman Dan Maje who later became Emir of Kano
3. Sir Kitoyi Ajasa a lawyer
4. HRH Oladugbolu Alaafin of Oyo
5. HRH R Henshaw (Obong of Calabar)
6. Abubakar Shehu of Borno

The location of the signing of d amalgamation document was Zungeru, Niger State. That was the Capital of the British Protectorate of Northern Nigeria from 1902 until 1916

There were 6 people and the rest of the 22 were British.

*The Edict expired in 2014.*

The document stated that after 100 years, each party can re-evaluate & determine if they want to continue together or go their separate ways.

*The above information is for personal consumption and not political.*

Why did we refuse to honour the agreements?

Nigeria technically expired in 2014. So, we can at least renegotiate the terms of continuing as a single Nation or Federation, Confederation or total separation.

*#Wetin We Dey Wait For?*

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Wonderful document. This should be useful in any dialogue going forward!

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Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by mrvitalis(m): 11:22am On May 17, 2023
Macmoni:

I know you people will always compare that’s why you always fail
Nobody is in a competition with you
Why must you bring tribalism into everything ?
Only a tribalist would see my comments as tribalistic

North is in a situation ....that Igbos were n came out well what's wrong with telling north to follow such route ?

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Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by mrvitalis(m): 11:25am On May 17, 2023
phemmyfour:
It's not about number of schools in the North, they just don't see any reason to go to school. Classes are empty while mosques are full. It's very painful cos their forefathers were both learned in Quran and western education
North were educated in the late 1800 to 1920s they were mostly the British Clarks

I feel northern elites know educated north would be difficult to control

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Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Ebeano49(m): 11:30am On May 17, 2023
It is not religion; it's selfish elite.
Northern elite prefer people they can control like sheep. You cannot control an educated mind.
Once the northern elite allow their people to get educated, they will lose the grip and control.
That's why they will rather build a mosque for them than build a school.
Re: Northerners Imposed Educational Backwardness On Themselves Due To Religion –FG by Hellonearth: 11:31am On May 17, 2023
Am happy it's coming from a norther too. If na PO that said it,the Boko Haram DNA infested killers fools idiotic animal cows infidel youths on Nairaland will be masturbating

Illiterates fools

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