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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 10:27am On May 19, 2023 |
jpmoriarti: Pep was given time and resources at City. What he did recently with City is nothing new. Atletico Simeone took Atletico to two Finals in three seasons. You all should calm down on this pep hype. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 10:31am On May 19, 2023 |
andrew444: What was pep four seasons like at City in the UCL? Shameful. Mourinho in his first season at Real Madrid flog pep to King's Cup. Defeated him in the finals. Second season won Laliga and left King's Cup to pep Pep saw the crack and left. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by andrew444(m): 10:41am On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590: Won Laliga and kings cup ,why you no talk who dominate Spain then ,shame no Dey catch you Or should we talk about the numerous basket ball score line line 5-0 mou first received from pep ? Your mou won 1 league title and copa del Rey and was sacked ,even for ucl pep pursue am commot and you get mouth Dey talk,your team was so starved of success that you had to do a bus parade for the copa del Rey Pep dominated Spain while mou was there ,you shouldn’t be talking bro . Man city will be playing 2 ucl finals in 3 years but it’s shameful ,bro better go and heal from the 5-1 disgrace pep gave your monster mentality team and stop being deluded You go praise mou yet you don’t want him back at Madrid ,No be ment be that 3 Likes |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 10:48am On May 19, 2023 |
andrew444: Pep was doing boss in Laliga until Mourinho showed up. Mourinho came 2010/ 2011 season. Pep became your coach 2008/2009 season. In the same time frame. Both won 1 Laliga title each and one King's Cup each. Title shared equally between both. I have always say I want him back here. If Carlo leaves I want him to replace Don Carlo. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by andrew444(m): 10:55am On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590: And mourinho showed but won only 1 Laliga title ,what stopped him from being the boss like pep Boss una ,person wey no fit boss tito Villanova wey win title for him head with 15 points gap after pep go ,even for ucl he couldnt even stop pep despite Ramos pepe and adebayor bringing cutlass to the pitch If Madrid fans are 100 only 2 people want him back and from the 2 one of them is deceiving himself |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 11:02am On May 19, 2023 |
andrew444: Have you done survey on all Madrid fans. I can tell you many Madrid fans love Mourinho. The same way you love pep that's the same way I love Mourinho. I don't hate pep either. I have praise him in the past too but I love Mourinho more. Mourinho is part of our history. Mourinho over pep twice on Friday. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by andrew444(m): 11:14am On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590: Mourinho over pep for you which is fine Pep over mourinho for the world football any day anytime ,there is a reason one have more achievements than the other one despite being a footballer when the other was already a coach ,there is a reason all big clubs will die to have one while the other will be chased with bamboo if seen anywhere near a top club stadium Part of your history wey no fit win ucl with prime Madrid ,even ancelotti that failed at Everton won ucl with Madrid 😁 Go and make survey and see your fans calling for nagelsman to be your coach if ancelotti leaves ,some are even calling for the like of Alonso or even Raul |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 11:17am On May 19, 2023 |
andrew444: How did Ancelotti fail at Everton? Make pep go coach Everton, I want check something . Why did pep didn't win the UCL with Bayern? Bayern were the defending Champions oh but he couldn't defend anything. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by andrew444(m): 11:24am On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590: Okay I should be fair ,ancelotti didn’t fail at Everton ,but you people said pep should go to a small team and make them dominate ,I guess that only applies to pep 😁 Pep dominated all league he coached at ,when will mou do that ? Pep has turned epl to farmers league ,mourinho with all the money at United couldn’t do that . Below are the highest spending managers in football history before you come with the agenda that pep is the only one spending
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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 11:45am On May 19, 2023 |
andrew444: Nope. Haba baba. One club at a time. Pep has the luxury of time at city so let's use that against him. Give us his spending in City vs Mourinho and Don Carlo. Use one club each for Mourinho and Don Carlo. You are at the liberty to use any one club of Mourinho and Don Carlo vs Pep's City. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by andrew444(m): 12:06pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590: I have showed you spendings now and you want to turn amala bros |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Android17: 12:47pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590:You are not making any sense. All coaches are not the same regardless of club. Carlo was fired at Bayern yet Pep was begged to re-sign even though both did not win the UCL. Why do you think that happened? Carlo was fired after winning the UCL at RM and will probably be fired again, why? Carlo coached in Chelsea, got fired the next season. Carlo coached in PSG, got fired. Carlo has a history of being fired. That is because his successes are usually attributed to his players' individual abilities not to anything tactical that he did. But nobody will watch Pep's teams and not see that winning is in only a matter of time. Which even brings us to City. City project that you are counting CL finishes is just laughable. Is it the team that went from 1st, 2nd, 4th before Pep with the oldest players in the league that would have gone on to win the UCL? Do you know that until 2016, City was barely ever qualifying past the group stages in the CL? Or when you buy in new players, they just go immediately to win the UCL? Why did RM not win the UCL from 2003-2013? Answer on a postcard. 2 Likes |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Android17: 12:51pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590: Pep won the UCL, CWC, Copa Del Rey, Spanish Super Cup, UEFA Super Cup and La Liga in the 2 seasons he stayed with Barca while Mou was there. Beating him 4 times and losing twice. If you don't know about me better ask around. All your lies won't fly. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Android17: 12:54pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590:Tell us another coach that coached City that achieved same since they had the same time and resources, you know? |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 1:31pm On May 19, 2023 |
Android17: Mention any lie in my post? Please I beg you! |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 1:34pm On May 19, 2023 |
Android17: All these one na long talk. What was pep four seasons like with City in the UCL? Explain with the aid of projector. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 1:36pm On May 19, 2023 |
andrew444: Your spending pics didn't explain in details. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by jpmoriarti(m): 1:42pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590:City are new comers in UCL. Never been a powerhouse. It's not easy to turn everything around in a twinkle of the eye. These things take time. Despite the players quality, you need to build a culture of winning even against the odds. These things take time. You need to make the players and the club to believe that it can be done I think the culture is now firmly with City. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 1:50pm On May 19, 2023 |
jpmoriarti: Before that time, Pellegrini took them to the Semis. Pep came and crashed out in the round of 16. Mourinho came and won it with Inter after 45 years. That's my kind of coach. If other good coaches are given that kind of time and resources to build their kind of team, they will succeed. This is his Seventh Seasons with City for crying out loud. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Android17: 2:39pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590:Did you not claim Pep and Mou won the same thing in Pep's time there? I have listed all the trophies Pep won in the time, proving you lied. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Android17: 2:39pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590:The same with RM from 2003-2013. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Android17: 2:41pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590:Mourinho met an Inter that had won the league 4 straight times before him. Pellegrini was also 4th and equal in points to United. Remind me, did Ancelotti not win the UCL this past season why is he not taking the team to another final? Is that not how the logic works? |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 2:46pm On May 19, 2023 |
Android17: In Laliga in the years there were together. Mourinho came 2010/2011...same year won the King's Cup. 2011/2012... Won the Laliga. Pep. 2010/2011....Laliga. 2011/2012.... King's Cup. Pep did four seasons with Barcelona. 2008/2009, 2009/2010, 2010/2011, 2011/2012. Where is the lie? Is that not one Laliga each and one King's Cup each. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 2:50pm On May 19, 2023 |
Android17: How was Inter like in the UCL before Mourinho came? That's progress. It took pep 5 seasons to out do what Pellegrini did with City in the UCL. Right? |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Android17: 2:54pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590:I am assuming you can read. Pep won the UCL, La liga, Spanish Super Cup, Club World Cup, and UEFA super cup in 2010-2011. Then he won the Copa Del Rey and Spanish Super Cup again in 2011-2012. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Android17: 2:55pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590:Inter had won their league 4 straight seasons so the next progression was going to be the UCL. City was 4th in the season before Pep with the oldest squad. The team had to be rejigged. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 2:59pm On May 19, 2023 |
Android17: You are missing it. Their time together in Spain. Not outside Spain. The two titles in Spain are Laliga and perhaps the cup competition called King's Cup (COPA DE-RAY) |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Android17: 3:12pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590:What cockery are you spewing my guy? If you want to compare their times in Spain you have to look at ALL the available trophies they were competing for. Pep disgraced RM 2-0 at Bernabeu en route to winning the CL. He disgraced Mou 5-0 en route to winning the league. By winning the CL, he was able to compete for the other trophies that come with it so the CWC and UEFA super cup. For winning the league while RM won the Copa Del Rey, both teams had to play the Spanish super cup. Pep beat Mou again. Then beat him 2 times in the Copa Del Rey and league to make it 4 times he beat Mou in the 2 seasons together. Mou won the 1-0 at Copa Del Rey (after Pedro's neat goal was ruled offside which would have been allowed by VAR today). And Mou beat Barca 2-1 at Camp Nou 3 games to the end of the season. That is all. So if you count all the trophies Pep won while Mou was there, you will see that they are not mates. 2 Likes |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by jpmoriarti(m): 3:16pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590:You'll have to show that you deserve time before you are given more time. Everyone can see that City has been improving year in year out. You of all people knows that cup competitions can be decided by a very tiny details. It is not easy to get everything right at the first time of asking. Something as little as a red card, can be the difference between having a good cup competition or not. If you want to build an enduring team that can win for many years, you need to get many details right and getting these details take time. Mourinho won in 2010? What happened to the team afterwards? They collapsed and needed another 13yrs to make another final. This is not the ideals that Guardiola lives by. He needs to know that there is a long term plan for the team and he will show that the team keeps getting better each year. Reason everyone at the club is happy for him to have as much time as needs. Anyone who thinks City haven't been getting better each year since Guardiola joined, is not telling themselves the truth. Ask yourself, why are coaches sacked? Because the team were not showing good signs of improvement over a given period. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 3:20pm On May 19, 2023 |
Android17: I was specific with my details. You are the one bringing trophies outside Spain. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by jpmoriarti(m): 3:20pm On May 19, 2023 |
monerozi5590:But Guardiola beat Mourinho in the semi final to win the UCL? What are you saying. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 3:26pm On May 19, 2023 |
jpmoriarti: This is what I am telling you. Tired of repeating myself. Pep went trophy less in his first season with City. At Real Madrid, he would have been long gone. Carlo was sacked a season after winning the UCL. Mourinho sacked a season after winning Laliga. Your first season count very much in Real Madrid. |
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