₦airaland Forum

HNICEARTH:
ODE!!!
what he meant by it's too late is that the court has no jurisdiction to entertain such case, there is already an election petition tribunal.

These are pre-election matters. There is a 14-day window after the primaries for such cases to be filed in court. The window has elapsed. Any case should be taken to the tribunal. It's too late already

Below is the CTC of the judgement, read paragraph 9 after that, eat corn and agbado in peace

Argue sensibly, you are not with your mother, no name calling here.

Jones4190:
Mop we have only one federation in Nigeria, there is no different between federal high court Enugu and federal high court Benue

Mr. Man, there is a difference if it comes to jurisdiction. A case that happened in Kwara cannot be taken to Osun. You see how close the states are but because of jurisdictional principle, as to prevent abuse of court processes. In the past you see politicians leave their state and go to procure order from another state and you just see different orders emanating from different courts on a single case. A case is done where the cause of action happened. Learn that one today.

IfnobeGod20:
Mr. Man, there is a difference if it comes to jurisdiction. A case that happened in Kwara cannot be taken to Osun. You see how close the states are but because of jurisdictional principle, as to prevent abuse of court processes. In the past you see politicians leave their state and go to procure order from another state and you just see different orders emanating from different courts on a single case. A case is done where the cause of action happened. Learn that one today.

what do you understand by this statement "The Federal High Court has jurisdiction covering the whole of Nigeria and has divisions in all the states of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. It is a feature of the Federal High Court that Judges deals with all case management, interim hearings, and trials.

Federal High Court lacks the jurisdiction to hear the matter sef, it is a judgement that is dead on arrival, also it will be quashed on appeal... but why will the court entertain such matter wen it's not a pre-election matter. it should be taken to the election tribunal

bentenny:
Oga is too late!
Secondly,the state from which the nullification is emanating from has no jurisdiction over a preelection matter!
However,I am willing to be educated if you show me the constitution where a pre election matter can linger after the window of 14 dats have expired!

you are just stating things out of the blues. Stop being guided by emotion. Lyon of Bayelsa was sacked by a pre election matter 1 day before May 29 swearing in. The latest electoral act only gave conclusion timeline for tribunal, appeal and supreme cases of post election matters. Have you seen the petition laid in the court in kano? The plaintiff was former LP national chairman while the defendants were LP and inec. He prayed that court should nullify the candidates that emerged from LP in kano and 35 states as they did not submit their register 30 days before their primaries. During the case inec stated that it was only in Abia and kano that the registers were not submitted. Hence the cancellation of only abia and kano. Also note that FHC anywhere in the country is the same.

Jones4190:
what do you understand by this statement "The Federal High Court has jurisdiction covering the whole of Nigeria and has divisions in all the states of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. It is a feature of the Federal High Court that Judges deals with all case management, interim hearings, and trials.

Please I don't dwell on frivolities because there are issues that are as clear as crystal, like this one that even non-lawyer need to know. Read the item number 9 of the court judgement and be informed. It's not everything we need to always exert out energy on.

IfnobeGod20:
Mr. Man, there is a difference if it comes to jurisdiction. A case that happened in Kwara cannot be taken to Osun. You see how close the states are but because of jurisdictional principle, as to prevent abuse of court processes. In the past you see politicians leave their state and go to procure order from another state and you just see different orders emanating from different courts on a single case. A case is done where the cause of action happened. Learn that one today.

if you read the petition, you will delete this. The petition was against LP and inec asking the court to quash the result of all their primaries in kano and other 35 states since they didn't submit their register to inec. Inec proved they submitted their register with exception of abia and kano. Reason that judgement only has effect on those 2 states.

SwissMass:
Argue sensibly, you are not with your mother, no name calling here.

There is no argument here. All I did was to call you out and whip you back into your senses.

When you want to make a comment or post, employ your sensibilities and smartness. I know you've got that in you, just that there might always be a need for someone like me to make sure you dig deep and make use of it judiciously.

chukel:
if you read the petition, you will delete this. The petition was against LP and inec asking the court to quash the result of all their primaries in kano and other 35 states since they didn't submit their register to inec. Inec proved they submitted their register with exception of abia and kano. Reason that judgement only has effect on those 2 states.

Mr. Man, did you read the judgement very well, even item 9 was explicit enough for a discerning mind. Alex Otti wasn't even joined in the case, making it jankara judgement. Why didn't the court request for his presence when such case was brought before him? If they've called him, that case would have died a natural death because he would file for jurisdiction.
Mr. Man, the plaintiff is one Ibrahim Haruna Ibrahim who took LP and INEC to court. Please understand the process of the court and who has right to institute a case in court. He should have instituted in FHC Abuja and also place all parties on notice, which the court refused. Alex Otti wasn't put on notice for fair hearing, that was why the judge made that statement of item 9. Go and read it very well and understanding. No need of flexing muscles.

HNICEARTH:
There is no argument here. All I did was to call you out and whip you back into your senses.

When you want to make a comment or post, employ your sensibilities and smartness. I know you've got that in you, just that there might always be a need for someone like me to make sure you dig deep and make use of it judiciously.

Well, don't do what you do to your mother here, it is not necessary

The way LP cherry picks the judgements of court to accept baffles me.
These people are no different from the politicians they criticize!

IfnobeGod20:
Mr. Man, did you read the judgement very well, even item 9 was explicit enough for a discerning mind. Alex Otti wasn't even joined in the case, making it jankara judgement. Why didn't the court request for his presence when such case was brought before him? If they've called him, that case would have died a natural death because he would file for jurisdiction.
Mr. Man, the plaintiff is one Ibrahim Haruna Ibrahim who took LP and INEC to court. Please understand the process of the court and who has right to institute a case in court. He should have instituted in FHC Abuja and also place all parties on notice, which the court refused. Alex Otti wasn't put on notice for fair hearing, that was why the judge made that statement of item 9. Go and read it very well and understanding. No need of flexing muscles.

always try to read wide and have understanding before dabbling in. You can't post the judgement and question why otti wasn't called. Below is the petition with the prayers. Otti was never a defendant. Inec and LP were. Unfortunately otti contested on the platform of LP. So whatever affects L.P. affects otti. Unfortunately again abia L.P. never submitted register to inec. That was how otti from abia became a collateral damage.

IfnobeGod20:
Not everything you flex your muscle at. What you don't know you don't know. Many things are involved and let me bail you out.
1. For any court process, court jurisdiction is number one. A case that happened in Abia, cannot be taken to Kano for determination. That's tantamount to abuse of court process. Is just like taken an election case in Abia state to Kano state. Common sense. You don't need to be a lawyer to learn all these simple things.
2. Who instituted the case, does he has locus standing to do so? In a preelection matter, it is only a candidate that participated in the primary that can institute a case against the winner of the primary.
3. Another important criteria is the window period. When the cause of action took place and when the case was instituted. The electoral Act gives 14 days window period to institute a case in a primary election, counting from the day the cause of action happened. Any case instituted outside that window period is an academic exercise, futile.

If I didn't know much about who instituted the case and the time the case was instituted but number one has failed his case, for instituting the case against Otti outside Abia, where the cause of action took place.

Meanwhile, Tinubu case is not the same as this. This is more of preelection matter while Tinubu own is post-election matter. You're comparing the incomparable.

And to you the knowledgeable, one of the pleas in the tribunal by Peter Obi against Tinubu is that they are not qualified because Shettima has double nomination. So going by your second assertion above, Is that also a pre-election mater or not? And who among the Labour party is a candidate of APC that has the locus stand to institute such?

Justice is never too late.... Clown

Corn247:
Since the court judgment is a joke to you, why is your messiah, pandora Obituary in court?

Una go learn alot in this new era Sha .

So in ur dreams u think a court in kano is has the jurisdiction to sack alex otti. Which uni did u people attend cos most of u act like people that are uneducated and very corrupt

SwissMass:
Well, don't do what you do to your mother here, it is not necessary

Your senses and smartness bwoy! Employ that and you'd have a great life and stop bn miserable.
Just a food for thought, after that you do the dishes

onuman:
One of the Alkali Court Judges in the uniform of Nigeria's Court judges nullified the election in Abia state in Kano.

What level do the Arewa want us to take their unitary government system to?

A Court in Texas nullifying the election of a New York state governor. Sounds stupeed.

go to school

Una no go hear

Elupee no education

Jones4190:
what do you understand by this statement "The Federal High Court has jurisdiction covering the whole of Nigeria and has divisions in all the states of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. It is a feature of the Federal High Court that Judges deals with all case management, interim hearings, and trials.

Its now ive realize that most nigerians want to be deceived to believe falsehood and cheap propaganda. Lets see if this one will fly or melt like ice water. Even after this ur likes will still imagine alex is sacked. You guys are really unintelligent

chukel:
always try to read wide and have understanding before dabbling in. You can't post the judgement and question why otti wasn't called. Below is the petition with the prayers. Otti was never a defendant. Inec and LP were. Unfortunately otti contested on the platform of LP. So whatever affects L.P. affects otti. Unfortunately again abia L.P. never submitted register to inec. That was how otti from abia became a collateral damage.

Reading and understanding is the problem of some of you. So far the issue bother negatively on who you want.
This is what the court said:
"The candidates that participated in the Election in Abia State are not parties before this court as such the court lacks the jurisdiction to make an order for the issuance of certificate of return to them. They are however, at liberty to seek the said redress in appropriate Division of the Court"

Don't just read, read with understanding. The judge said:
1. Candidates that participated are not parties in the suit and such the court lacked jurisdiction to make an order. No judge will give judgement when all parties involved are not given fair hearing.
2. The judge advised that the petitioner can make redress in an appropriate court.
Please to you, what does that mean and where is the appropriate division?
I presumed you're a learned person, this words are not opaque neither written in an unknown language.

Blaze14k:
So in ur dreams u think a court in kano is has the jurisdiction to sack alex otti. Which uni did u people attend cos most of u act like people that are uneducated and very corrupt

relax and think through before you type. If a court in kano says the NWC of labor that conducted the primary is invalid, don't you know that all the products of such primaries in all states will be nullified? Sit down and think properly before you think another person is stupid. The defendants were inec and LP. Court discovered LP did not follow due process in some states. Court said based on lack of due process by all LP all outcomes of their actions are nullified. Unfortunately one of such outcome is otti. So that judgement has jurisdiction

Emekaonline:
And to you the knowledgeable, one of the pleas in the tribunal by Peter Obi against Tinubu is that they are not qualified because Shettima has double nomination. So going by your second assertion above, Is that also a pre-election mater or not? And who among the Labour party is a candidate of APC that has the locus stand to institute such?

Mr. Man, if Obi filed a case of double nomination against Shettima, it is left for the tribunal to see it as a preelection matter. So what is the big deal about that? If it classified as a preelection matter, let the court throw it away as one because Obi would have no right to institute the case because he is not a member of APC and never participated in APC presidential primary.
However, Double nomination is even a grievous offence in 2022 electoral Act because it stipulates penalty, I think jail term.

If it is true that the names were submitted too late, Alex Otti is a goner!!!

chukel:
relax and think through before you type. If a court in kano says the NWC of labor that conducted the primary is invalid, don't you know that all the products of such primaries in all states will be nullified? Sit down and think properly before you think another person is stupid. The defendants were inec and LP. Court discovered LP did not follow due process in some states. Court said based on lack of due process by all LP all outcomes of their actions are nullified. Unfortunately one of such outcome is otti. So that judgement has jurisdiction

Mr. Man, is as if you're still in the stone age? For anyone to contest a primary of any party, he must have participated in the primary. It is not just dick and Harry that can institute petition on party primary. A man in Gombe can not say, the primary conducted by party A in Oyo does not follow lay down rule. Our electoral law has grown beyond the old fashion, that dick and Harry file case any how on issue that doesn't concern them.

Parachoko:
No o, the Case must be first settled at the Supreme Court before he is sworn in

Try go school... google "stay of execution"

IfnobeGod20:
Reading and understanding is the problem of some of you. So far the issue bother negatively on who you want.
This is what the court said:
"The candidates that participated in the Election in Abia State are not parties before this court as such the court lacks the jurisdiction to make an order for the issuance of certificate of return to them. They are however, at liberty to seek the said redress in appropriate Division of the Court"

Don't just read, read with understanding. The judge said:
1. Candidates that participated are not parties in the suit and such the court lacked jurisdiction to make an order. No judge will give judgement when all parties involved are not given fair hearing.
2. The judge advised that the petitioner can make redress in an appropriate court.
Please to you, what does that mean and where is the appropriate division?
I presumed you're a learned person, this words are not opaque neither written in an unknown language.

lol. You are really mixing things up. The judgement was against LP and affected otti. However since otti is not directly a party to the suit, the judge cannot revoke the certificate of return given to him. It's left for the pdp candidate to approach the court and ask that the certificate of return be given to him. See eh, otti was not a party to this suit. However the judgement affected him as a collateral damage. I'm pained by this judgement. But it's right.

Parachoko:
No o, the Case must be first settled at the Supreme Court before he is sworn in

. google "stay of execution"...

So if the tribunal give such judgment against tinubu, he will not be sworn in on may 29 ?...even if he gets a stay of execution or appeal the judgment ?

Okealaaye:
You be lawyer or meddlesome interloper? Even if you are more sensible than the learned judge that pronounced the verdict, what law backs this your needless intervention? What's the weight of your words in legal terms?

You really make sense!

IfnobeGod20:
Mr. Man, is as if you're still in the stone age? For anyone to contest a primary of any party, he must have participated in the primary. It is not just dick and Harry that can institute petition on party primary. A man in Gombe can not say, the primary conducted by party A in Oyo does not follow lay down rule. Our electoral law has grown beyond the old fashion, that dick and Harry file case any how on issue that doesn't concern them.

you are senseless and have no legal knowledge. Very ignorant dolt who doesn't want to learn. You don't even know what the petition is all about. Just shouting all about like a demented goat. Petition was against LP and inec not against otti. The effect of that petition however affected the candidacy of otti. Get sense. Abure conducted the primary in imo state. If tomorrow, a member of the Party drags Abure to court to determine the legality of his action based on the fact he was suspended then and the court rules his actions were illegal, it automatically nullifies the primaries in imo despite the fact the suit was not against the imo primary election. Trying to break it down for a dumb skull like you

chukel:
relax and think through before you type. If a court in kano says the NWC of labor that conducted the primary is invalid, don't you know that all the products of such primaries in all states will be nullified? Sit down and think properly before you think another person is stupid. The defendants were inec and LP. Court discovered LP did not follow due process in some states. Court said based on lack of due process by all LP all outcomes of their actions are nullified. Unfortunately one of such outcome is otti. So that judgement has jurisdiction

So a court in kano has jurisdiction to nullify a candidate in abia state. Chai you guess are just played like a football. Ok lets see how far this stupid lie will fly. What a joke

Blaze14k:
So a court in kano has jurisdiction to nullify a candidate in abia state. Chai you guess are just played like a football. Ok lets see how far this stupid lie will fly. What a joke

no need explaining further to you. You can't learn.

IfnobeGod20:
Mr. Man, is as if you're still in the stone age? For anyone to contest a primary of any party, he must have participated in the primary. It is not just dick and Harry that can institute petition on party primary. A man in Gombe can not say, the primary conducted by party A in Oyo does not follow lay down rule. Our electoral law has grown beyond the old fashion, that dick and Harry file case any how on issue that doesn't concern them.

It's like you are not getting it. This man did not sue Otti, he sued Labour party as a whole and any judgement pronounced will affect all their candidate.