₦airaland Forum

ezechi242:
i have one question for you...........................are you still buying garri , fuel, rice and beans cheaper than the sane people who voted against the backwardness you campaigned for in 2015?

Life is beyond beans and garri. If wages and incomes are rising, then inflation won't be that bad. Some people have enjoyed higher income over time. But that aside, Asiwaju was not in power since 2015. Unlike Obi he has never taken appointment with the FG. And d man Obi praised as the best, Osinbajo is d second in command to this govt u hate. Does that make any sense?

Odibembem:
Life is beyond beans and garri. If wages and incomes are rising, then inflation won't be that bad. Some people have enjoyed higher income over time. But that aside, Asiwaju was not in power since 2015. Unlike Obi he has never taken appointment with the FG. And d man Obi praised as the best, Osinbajo is d second in command to this govt u hate. Does that make any sense?

So you mean in your score card as your writing APC has failed.....you said tinubu has not been in the helms of power, so he knew that bihari would be a calamity and yet still supported him because it would be his turn after buhari.

plaindealer:
What is this rubbish got to do with the fact that Obi is delaying the case?

Is Obi delaying the case because of the price of Garri?

No sense as usual;..

As usual ...an agbero will always reason like one.....why has innec refused to allow them test the irev....since you no wan get sense...

Tareq1105:
I want to ask you also, does Obi have a garri factory or rice mill or petrol station?

If he had ...will it be cheaper than the ones APC promised you ?....

iammo:


Something tells me Obi isn't serious but let's wait and watch the drama

that so-called unseriousmess is where his strength lies. Ask his victims

garfield1:
It matters sir.you guys said the same thing in 2019 and failed.election is all about quantity

What you failed to realise is that 2019 is different from 2023

In 2019 BVAS and IREV were not backed by law whereas in 2023

Open up your mind

richmond500:
oh, I thought it was part of the case

It wasn’t.

garfield1:
The court has already settled the shettima issue...the fct issue will need arguments and counter arguments but I know the court has already made up their minds.
The drug issue also needs a lot of arguments and some witnesses from america but it is a dead case as he's not an ex convict and even if,10 years has lapsed...
The supreme court didnt say you need irev to prove overvoting.it said bvas and voters register.unfortunately, obi couldn't access bvas.in proving that you won,you will need primary results which is ec8a and agents copies plus police copies.irev is secondary result.therefore,vote recount and forensics are the only thing left

My brother, supreme court made mention the three. It said voters'register, BVAS and IREVs. Even common sense should have told you that voter register and BVAS only show number of eligible voters captured to vote. Do you know you can be captured and not vote? I know some people that only thumb printed for president and just put the remaining ballots inside the boxes. But results after voting in comparison with voters'register and BVAS can show if truly there was over voting.
How would IREVs be a secondary results? Was it not the results counted and documented at the polling units suppose to be uploaded to the IREVs? If I may ask you, where is the primary results?

The idiot Obi just want to remain in the spotlights shining teeths and catching croose with the Obi supporters.

garfield1:
It hasn't.obi hasn't inspected bvass and supreme court said primary results are ec8a

Are you saying they don't have the form EC8A Seems you don't know the correlation between the essence of IREV and form EC8A

In osun case APC are less concerned about form EC8A focusing their attention on BVAS server report

The 2 are not the same

Open up your scope

garfield1:
The court has already settled the shettima issue...the fct issue will need arguments and counter arguments but I know the court has already made up their minds.
The drug issue also needs a lot of arguments and some witnesses from america but it is a dead case as he's not an ex convict and even if,10 years has lapsed...
The supreme court didnt say you need irev to prove overvoting.it said bvas and voters register.unfortunately, obi couldn't access bvas.in proving that you won,you will need primary results which is ec8a and agents copies plus police copies.irev is secondary result.therefore,vote recount and forensics are the only thing left

I'm not sure you read the Osun judgement for understanding you only cherry picked what you want.

I think you need to read the osun supreme court judgement but this time around for a better understanding

engineerboat:
Are you saying they don't have the form EC8A Seems you don't know the correlation between the essence of IREV and form EC8A

In osun case APC are less concerned about form EC8A focusing their attention on BVAS server report

The 2 are not the same

Open up your scope

Where did I say they didnt have ec8a? They must tender the ec8a and demonstrate it one by one it open court as it is the primary evidence

IVORY2009:
What are you even upto? Peter Obi actually won the February 25th elections, the Tinubu guy would not last long in office, the international community would not recognize his govt.

R u in Nigeria?

IfnobeGod20:
My brother, supreme court made mention the three. It said voters'register, BVAS and IREVs. Even common sense should have told you that voter register and BVAS only show number of eligible voters captured to vote. Do you know you can be captured and not vote? I know some people that only thumb printed for president and just put the remaining ballots inside the boxes. But results after voting in comparison with voters'register and BVAS can show if truly there was over voting.
How would IREVs be a secondary results? Was it not the results counted and documented at the polling units suppose to be uploaded to the IREVs? If I may ask you, where is the primary results?

Oga to show over voting,you need bvas and voters register directly which are primary evidence for accreditation and proving over voting.
According to the supreme court,primary evidence are evidence that emanated directly from polling units.once they are transferred and transmitted to another platform,they become secondary or third hand.the most reliable results is the one issued at the units with duplicates given to police and agents

engineerboat:
What you failed to realise is that 2019 is different from 2023

In 2019 BVAS and IREV were not backed by law whereas in 2023

Open up your mind

The electoral act does not back irev.the major difference is the bvas and Bvas data was wiped out before pdp and lp could inspect it

garfield1:
Where did I say they didnt have ec8a? They must tender the ec8a and demonstrate it one by one it open court as it is the primary evidence

What you need to know is that things have changed than what you assumed pre-2019

This is 2023 with new updated electoral Act

engineerboat:
What you need to know is that things have changed than what you assumed pre-2019

This is 2023 with new updated electoral Act

Nothing has changed with respect to claims of victory.if you sat you won,you will present ec8a first in physical form one by one and compare it with inec and police copies

garfield1:
The electoral act does not back irev.the major difference is the bvas and Bvas data was wiped out before pdp and lp could inspect it

Go back and read the judgement

Let me tell you something today which you may not know.

Nothing was deleted from the BVAS Inec only needs that judgments back should in case.

For your information

1. BVAS was backed up whatever inspections to be caarried out is the bvas backup.

So for your information i will repeat again You have a mindset which I'm not here to argue with you on but the fact remains that what you seem to be aware of is minute to what you need to understand

garfield1:
Nothing has changed with respect to claims of victory.if you sat you won,you will present ec8a first in physical form one by one and compare it with inec and police copies

You are not the Judges so no need to argue with you further on this.

Time will tell

However i will remind you

engineerboat:
Go back and read the judgement

Let me tell you something today which you may not know.

Nothing was deleted from the BVAS Inec only needs that judgments back should in case.

For your information

1. BVAS was backed up whatever inspections to be caarried out is the bvas backup.

So for your information i will repeat again You have a mindset which I'm not here to argue with you on but the fact remains that what you seem to be aware of is minute to what you need to understand

Oga,reconfiguration wiped off some data from bvas,do not be deceived except you dont know what it means.they transferred the data to inec server which becomes secondary data..atiku will fail like in 2019

engineerboat:
You are not the Judges so no need to argue with you further on this.

Time will tell

However i will remind you

I don't need to be a judge to know the directions of some cases.pdp will lose sir

garfield1:
Where did I say they didnt have ec8a? They must tender the ec8a and demonstrate it one by one it open court as it is the primary evidence

Why are your changing your voices


From He did not have agent in all PU now to this.

Well to wherever the Tribunal eventually ruled on whether for APC, PDP or LP one facf remain this is 2023 and not what you assumed to be for 2019

garfield1:
I don't need to be a judge to know the directions of some cases.pdp will lose sir

You said more than this for Osun

You said more than this for zamfara

You said more than this for Edo

engineerboat:
You said more than this for Osun

You said more than this for zamfara

You said more than this for Edo

I predicted apc win at the tribunal and their loss at the appellate.
I underestimated pdp in edo but they are set to take back the state.
I predicted uzodinma victory,predicted tinubu victory.

engineerboat:
Why are your changing your voices


From He did not have agent in all PU now to this.

Well to wherever the Tribunal eventually ruled on whether for APC, PDP or LP one facf remain this is 2023 and not what you assumed to be for 2019

Stop reading upside down.pdp had agents everywhere,it is obi that didnt and our argument is apc vs pdp.
Apart from bvas being mandatory,nothing much has changed.atiku will fail as usual

favor914:
Those same Mumu Jokers are the same clowns 🤡 asking for television coverage, just to waste more time.

Your joy is for a while... The fact will play out soonest.

You dont know what it takes to be a chess player.

I want to state it here that what you dont know is bigger than you.

All these agbado boys should stay clear but stay tuned to the shocking development.

OBI IS COMING!

seunmsg:
He can call 50 witness in 2 weeks. What’s the sense in asking for 7 weeks? If the various petitions are consolidated and Atiku and the third party also ask for 7 weeks, how will the tribunal be able to decide the case within the stipulated timeframe? Obi is simply trying to waste everybody’s time and nothing else.

Kadoso Mutairu aka seunmsg!😆😆😆😆

garfield1:
Oga to show over voting,you need bvas and voters register directly which are primary evidence for accreditation and proving over voting.
According to the supreme court,primary evidence are evidence that emanated directly from polling units.once they are transferred and transmitted to another platform,they become secondary or third hand.the most reliable results is the one issued at the units with duplicates given to police and agents

I don't know, it seems you always read comment upside down. I did mentioned that to proof over voting, voters'register, BVAS and IREVs are essential, which the supreme court emphatically said in its ruling in Osun gubernatorial election.
Well, I won't argue with you on calling results posted in IREVs as secondary source on the condition that the voting and counting was done manually and entered manually before transmitted to IREVs. But I want you to read the extract from the supreme court judgement on the said Osun state election and juxtapose with your assertion.
The supreme court court said you cannot rely on BVAS for over voting. That was why Oyetola case fell flat.

Sorry I posted wrong poster but now corrected it.

seunmsg:

At least, sensible Nigerians can now see who is trying to delay the quick conclusion of the case. While all other parties to the case are seeking for less than 10 days, Peter Obi is seeking for 49 days.

His deluded supporters who think the tribunal can determine the matter before May 29 can now see how Peter Obi has been taking them for a fool. Dude is just trying to remain in public spotlight for as long as possible while wasting everyone’s time. He has no case to prove.

Ogbeni, stop using bots.

Cc: seun
Cc: mynd44

IfnobeGod20:
I don't know, it seems you always read comment upside down. I did mentioned that to proof over voting, voters'register, BVAS and IREVs are essential, which the supreme court emphatically said in its ruling in Osun gubernatorial election.
Well, I won't argue with you on calling results posted in IREVs as secondary source on the condition that the voting and counting was done manually and entered manually before transmitted to IREVs. But I want you to read the extract from the supreme court judgement on the said Osun state election and juxtapose with your assertion.
The supreme court court said you cannot rely on BVAS for over voting. That was why Oyetola case fell flat.

You are not just reading upside down but sideways.I never said to you only needed bvas.I said you need bvas and voters register and not irev.infact,the court said you must tender bvas or bvas reports and the register.any other evidence used to prove accreditation is third hand.same thing applies to proving results.now,obi never inspected bvas so he cannot depend on bvas but witnesses at the various units and secondary data.
For obi to prove allegations of disenfranchisement,voters suppression and violence,he needs thousands of witnesses who were at the units to testify physically.50 witnesses is a waste.
To prove that his votes were swapped,he must physically bring witnesses who saw it first hand and also make the court order a physical recount or forensics on each result.
All evidences must be demonstrated in court,you cannot dump it in court.if you bring duplicate copies,you must display it one by one for the judges will not display it for you.any document you bring in court,you must explain it and convince the court beyond doubt.it is majorly a manual process and with 7 weeks to go,obi will fail

This IPOB people no just get sense... It's funny