₦airaland Forum

tinsel:
Does it mean again, one does not change his position on a matter over time? All these past references are annoying.

Was he brain dead back then or what is the difference between then and now!

I blame GEJ for all these, he was just too cool for my liking

unfornately PDP as a party couldn't manage their hold on power, they allowed Tinubu, Buhari and the APC to seize control of the press

this made the opposition took control of the government from them. sometimes it is better to be hard and be mean when handling Nigerians

Hehehehe....I warned about this. 2012 I supported the subsidy removal by GEJ but was insulted like crazy. Well, here we are today. Personally I'm done crying and screaming for Nigeria. All I can say is GOOD MORNING.

tinsel:
Does it mean again, one does not change his position on a matter over time? All these past references are annoying.

You are the one that sounds annoying. A real man should be known for its stand on an issue come rain come shine. In America, the Democrats and Republicans have always maintained a stand on national issues. One stands for abortion and one opposes it. One stands for gun and one opposes it. Etc.
But in Africa, they act like idiotic criminals changing their thoughts and stands every minute.
Their reason for doing that is just to deceive people for their selfish gain.
If you want to be a respected man, you must be known and stand by your words.
If you want to be respected by your kids, when you say no your no must be no. You will be that no nonsense dad that is feared, loved and respected.

SMUAG:
People like you go definitely mumu forever...

you are actually the fool here....if jonathan was not as stupid as you, he wouldnt have kept jega as the chairman of inec.

Vadese1:
Illiteracy is actually the Nigeria problem. Even after 8 years , you are still talking this nonsense. Am replying to your last statement

you actually dont know that you are the biggest illitrate.....what made him not to sack jega ...when he knew fully well that jega would back stab him...thesame foolishness is whats wrong with you.

Are you saying Tinubu, Bakare, El Rufai and Bubu were ignorant in 2012?

tinsel:
Does it mean again, one does not change his position on a matter over time? All these past references are annoying.

ezechi242:
you are actually the fool here....if jonathan was not as stupid as you, he wouldnt have kept jega as the chairman of inec.

And GOAT like you could just look pass all the atrocities done by this demonic apc government.. Like I bin say, ur mumu go definitely last well well
You really mumu well well...

seunmsg:
It’s such a shame some of these obedients are still stuck in 2015. We are in 2022 for crying out loud, move on and stop wailing.

If we made mistake in 2012 regarding subsidy, we should learn from our mistake and do the right thing now.

Kadoso Mutairu aka seunmsg 😆😆😆 I see that some people are getting more creative about you on this forum. Now people are calling you Mudashiru Kusoro aka Seunmsg.😝😝😝😝. Inkrebidu!

Vinnie2000:
God Bless you, Sir!👍

That February 2012, Many Nigerians were Struggling Financially and Jonathan's Timing was Wrong.
Nigerians were right to go on that Occupy Nigeria Protest.🙂

Jonathan was just Weak as a Leader and he was a CHRISTIAN SS President.

Tinubu (Yoruba Muslim) and Tambuwal (Hausa/FULANI) who were Unhappy with that situation
Took advantage of the Situation to plan for 2015.!😒

Are we not even worse off right now

NeoWanZaeed:
In few sentences please sum up your findings about subsidy and it's removal

(This answer is for you if you are interested, really).

Subsidy is what is paid to compensate the petroleum sector for selling fuel below the production and transport cost. If it is not paid, the sector would lose money.

The problem is, the cost of producing a liter of fuel and transporting it is not static, due to things like fall in the value of naira and rising cost of producing crude oil. Also, the amount of fuel consumed rises due to rising population, poor power supply, and smuggling of the product to our neighbours.(Nigerian petrol is until 2 days ago the cheapest in Africa).

As the cost rises, the amount spent on subsidy rises. This means that government spends more and more on the subsidy....which means more and more money is spent from the revenue. This creates a deficit in the budget...which is filled by borrowing. Most of the time, the subsidy itself cannot cover the loss....cue NNPC being owed 2.8 trillion today in subsidy money.

Deficit, and borrowing to pay for the deficit causes inflation, and worses our already bad economic problem.

That. in a nutshell , is why subsidy is bad.


For more information, google for the article Reflections on the subsidy regimen, in the Nigerian guardian newspaper online.

Vinnie2000:
No need for all these Regrets.

The Truth is that the Northern Cabal/Power brokers and some SW Elements
will NEVER be comfortable with a Southern Christian President.

They will Frustrate, Bully and try to Remote control him.😒


Remember how Goodluck Jonathan was almost Sidelined and Stopped from becoming President in May 2010.😔

The Agenda of APC and the Powerful Northern Elements in Nigeria
is for every President to Either be a NORTHERNER or a YORUBA MUSLIM.

Obasanjo was a Yoruba Muslim and he attempted to get a 3rd term. Abeg, where do you guys get this stuff from??

Occurstaem:
South West and Yoruba supported Goodluck Jonathan and was at the forefront for him to become the acting president then in 2010 and later in 2011 election which he won.

They ONLY did that because Buhari was in CPC and they didn't like Buhari then.😏

But When he joined The Association of Past Criminals party called APC in 2014,
they rallied around him and now claimed Jonathan was a Failure.

When Buhari FAILED for 8years, They kept Mute. 😕

@OP.

David Hundeyin is your hero ba? Any example of the lawless charlatan many Nigerians worship, regardless of their serious misconduct, merely because they are 'peppering those you hate bigotedly abi?

Below is what happens to your lawless messiahs in sane Nation where folks are not worshipped for wrongdoing or allowed to get away with it merely because they speak/act against those many, like you, love to hate unobjectively.


https://www.intelregion.com/news/oxford-university-sacks-nigerian-controversial-blogger-david-hundeyin-over-fraud/

ayinba1:
Obasanjo was a Yoruba Muslim and he attempted to get a 3rd term. Abeg, where do you guys get this stuff from??

U say? 😏

Obasanjo is a Christian. Maybe not Full Time.

Simple truth is Northern Cabal that determines Presidents hate a SS or SE or Christian president.

Dat's why they used Boko Haram to Frustrate Jonathan and refuse to Pick Osinbajo as APC Presidential candidate.😒

They Prefer Hausa or Yoruba Muslims as Presidents inorder to Promotes the interest of ISLAM. 😕

Vinnie2000:
They ONLY did that because Buhari was in CPC and they didn't like Buhari then.😏

But When he joined The Association of Past Criminals party called APC in 2014,
they rallied around him and now claimed Jonathan was a Failure.

When Buhari FAILED for 8years, They kept Mute. 😕

Thank you for admitting that Yoruba and South West were at the forefront for Jonathan to become the acting president and then president when President Yar'adua died. So are you saying the reason for the support was because Buhari was in CPC?

OChimex:
You are the one that sounds annoying. A real man should be known for its stand on an issue come rain come shine. In America, the Democrats and Republicans have always maintained a stand on national issues. One stands for abortion and one opposes it. One stands for gun and one opposes it. Etc.
But in Africa, they act like idiotic criminals changing their thoughts and stands every minute.
Their reason for doing that is just to deceive people for their selfish gain.
If you want to be a respected man, you must be known and stand by your words.
If you want to be respected by your kids, when you say no your no must be no. You will be that no nonsense dad that is feared, loved and respected.

And you stand is such over time, you don't shift? Some of you actually talk like you are an alien.

Agadinaagwuofe:
At the bolded, this kind of thinking is actually the problem of this country. It has nothing to do with weakness. A leader should be able to listen to the masses and not being autocratic, there are many play behind the scenes you were not privy to but it's convenient to sit back and label him weakness, with too many internal sabotage and a lot of money and influence on the opposition it will only take Jonathan to become a fascist with too many blood in his hands to stand them toe to toe because they were ready to go extreme, now the question is at what price? only God knows what Goodluck meekness and selflessness did to the unity we are enjoying.had it been he refused to yield, it's this same you that will run around how high handedness the Jonathan government became now you're describing it as weakness. Seriously I like the fact people can look at hindsight and remember their mistakes it goes to show how many Nigerians are just political tools with no common sense. It is the same way politicians will be using them tools in the guise of different ulterior motives masked under tribalism and religion and many will keep falling for it. I really wonder how people are going to cope with the hardship the news have caused bearing in mind that the actual removal hasn't come then when it finally implemented it will be from frying pan to fire

like i said...GEJ was weak and i stand on my statement....im not sure he faced the kind of pressure buhari faced, but still buhari did everything in his own favour , fixing all his tribes men in all the juicy offices making sure that the military was under his control, those are the things GEJ couldnt do, why didnt buhari say and act with such impunity during obasanjos regime, because he has seen that jonathan is not a politician, he was just opourtuned to be the president.

if GEJ was the president when the lekki saga happened, he would have ran out of the country.

OGHENAOGIE:
he would have still lost and there ll be bloodshed cos removing Jega would be illegal...

will the blood shed be worse than the one we are having now?......65,000 people killed in 8 years ...common bro

Ate247:
no let me call you fool.

you are actually the fool oga

ITbomb:
The bold shows that you were still a baby or not yet born when the military were in power. At least the recent ones, imagine Abacha loots being returned years after. Don't even talk about insecurity

where they insecurities in abachas reign ....stop lying oga

SMUAG:
And GOAT like you could just look pass all the atrocities done by this demonic apc government.. Like I bin say, ur mumu go definitely last well well
You really mumu well well...

like i said before you are the actual fool here......where in my comment did i praise the bastard regime that just passed out, its just like saying the americans are not to be blamed for the current situation of libya ......jonathan could have damned the consequencies and moved ahead with his plan, do you think if obasanjo were to be him, buhari would have opened his useless mouth to say monkeys and baboons will be painted with blood? ...big no ....he said that because he knows GEJ was as weak as vegetable.

tinsel:
And you stand is such over time, you don't shift? Some of you actually talk like you are an alien.

That’s why you should make sure of what is fine and hold fast to it- says the Bible. Make sure of the right thing/truth, and once you find it, hold fast to it because truth never changes, it’s only when you stand with lies and deceits that you keep changing.
People like you who are wanderers and confused always contradict themselves.
Great men are always remembered for a thing. Like Mandela who stood and fought apartheid policy, and never wavered even when he was seriously bribed to waver. And history will always be kind to him.
Keep jumping from one thing to another like a chameleon, and you will be remembered for nothing.

ezechi242:
like i said before you are the actual fool here......where in my comment did i praise the bastard regime that just passed out, its just like saying the americans are not to be blamed for the current situation of libya ......jonathan could have damned the consequencies and moved ahead with his plan, do you think if obasanjo were to be him, buhari would have opened his useless mouth to say monkeys and baboons will be painted with blood? ...big no ....he said that because he knows GEJ was as weak as vegetable.

That's the problem with fools (like you), they always think everyone most act like hard person before he/she can be seen as someone who's tough.
Goodluck didn't need to strangle Buhari before daft one like you need to know Buhari was a heavy disaster..

Racoon:
Where are the then said baba but now Tinubu’s zombies here? They postponed the evil days since 2014 with their occupy Nigeria Ojota and Save Nigeria Abuja protests thinking they are harming Jonathan.

Meanwhile, they thave been committing the same subsidy fraud for 8 years. So they must face the consequences today. Ndi ala supported by mummified zombies.

More:

. They called Jonathan a drunk, now he will just sit down somewhere and be laughing and enjoying his drink.

ezechi242:
will the blood shed be worse than the one we are having now?......65,000 people killed in 8 years ...common bro

did pple not die during GEJ time.. u guys should get lost

OGHENAOGIE:
did pple not die during GEJ time.. u guys should get lost

how many, oga lost, how many..

SMUAG:
That's the problem with fools (like you), they always think everyone most act like hard person before he/she can be seen as someone who's tough.
Goodluck didn't need to strangle Buhari before daft one like you need to know Buhari was a heavy disaster..

you are just running round the bush like the mumu you are, why didnt buhari make such evil statements when he contested against obasanjo and lost twice. mugu

zeusdgrt:
Educated illiterate

Educated IPOB..Lolzz

Occurstaem:
Thank you for admitting that Yoruba and South West were at the forefront for Jonathan to become the acting president and then president when President Yar'adua died. So are you saying the reason for the support was because Buhari was in CPC?

Of course, YES.

CPC was seen as a Northern, Islamic, Jihadist party by everyone in 2011.

And they proved so, by they getting Massive Votes in 2011 Election and going on Killing Rampage when BUHARI lost.😒😞

This is the Jihadist group that aligned with Tinubu's ACN and Tambuwal's PDP Breakaway faction to form APC.😕

SS, SE and Christians are NOT well Represented in this Group that formed the APC party
And They have the Agenda of making sure NO CHRISTIAN ever becomes President.

E.g. See how APC has trashed Amaechi and some Yorubas (likely the Muslims) are referring to Osinbajo as Judas.

NobleSeed:

Una don start

muhammaduyusufu:
That's politics for you. GEJ was a weak leader, and the opposition even though knew subsidy had to go used it against him.

Now you all know that Tinubu is extremely intelligent. He is the master of the game called Nigerian politics.

His intelligence was also used in splitting PDP into 3 (divide and conquer) just before the elections). Reno once said Tinubu has the face of a slow person, but he is extremely intelligent.

Intelligent in drugs and rigging

Crap.