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SeeHim:
Another Suicide News, Coming From Jigawa
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Tallesty1:
Interestingly, in the account of Saul's death, the man who reported Saul's demise to David foolishly claimed to have been responsible for Saul's death and received an unexpected "free death" as his reward. . I find that story amusing

naturefellow:
Nothing proud about being a medium of bad news. It's rather a curse!

bukatyne:
You like trouble

I think what you are missing out is intention or reason.

For instance, the accidents mentioned is from negligence which is suicidal. However, the 'victims' did not intend to kill themselves. It could be the typical 'this thing never spoil well well'; 'I never gain the money I use buy am'; 'I would repair it after this trip'; 'let me just quickly climb the pole and fix it sharp sharp' etc.

For Samson, the intention was to kill the enemy; he decided to be collateral damage. Imagine a suicide bomber walking to Boko Haram's camp to blow himself up because that is the only way he can get there. Samson's assignment was to destroy the Philistines which he was successfully doing until he got derailed by Delilah. From the summary of his death, it was said that he killed more enemies at his death than while alive. If he went to heaven, I can't say.

SaLongs1:
He wasn't even derailed but rather amplified by Delilah reason being that he killed more enemies at the point of his death than when he was alive.

SeeHim:
https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2023/6/30-year-old-photographer-commits-suicide-in-jigawa-2.html

Tallesty1:

"I was in church sometime ago for the youth all-night program. It was a program where youth could discuss literally anything with pastors. You could ask any question, and the pastor or anyone else who knew the answer would answer you.

So, someone asked if people who committed suicide would make it to heaven, and almost everyone said NO.

Then I asked if Samson is in or going to hell, and the answer was NO. Seeing the confusion on my face, someone asked me if Samson committed suicide, and I said yes, which became a problem.

I told them that Samson knew he was going to die. In fact, he said, 'Let me perish with my enemies' before pulling down the building that killed him. They said I was wrong because his intention wasn't suicidal. I got even more confused and asked if taking one's life isn't suicide if the intention was noble. More confusion arose, but many people shared it.

To cause more confusion, I switched to Pidgin English. The pastor objected, saying that some things are simpler when explained in Pidgin English, and I reminded him how he had used the King James Version many times because the English adds more power to the prayer point.

He won though.

I asked the first apostle, 'What is suicide?. I want straight answers with no buts, if you have something to add you can do it later '

He replied, 'It's when a person kills himself.'

I said, 'Good, did Samson kill himself by pulling down the building or not?'

'He killed himself,' he replied.

'If an electrician doesn't wear gloves while working with electricity, isn't he trying to get himself electrocuted?' I asked.

'Yes, he is.' he responded.

'If the electric shock kills him, isn't it him killing himself?'

'Yes, he killed himself.'

'Then why do we call it an accident instead of suicide?'

' '

'Exactly.'

I told them that if suicide victims are going to hell, then a lot of Nigerians will be there because many who died from accident or the other were actually suicide victims. An electrician working without safety gear is suicidal, a driver speeding on a bad road is suicidal, a bike rider using one hand at high speed is suicidal, using a faulty car instead of fixing it is like wanting to kill yourself. If you have diabetes but eat anything that comes your way, it's the same thing. If your spouse consistently abuses you physically, knowing it could kill you, and you stay, it's the same thing, etc.


Don't tell me I was wrong; I know I wasn't completely correct, but my points presented a strong argument, and I enjoyed it. You should have seen their faces when I said that suicide was a brave act nah that one force them to collect their mike.

Tallesty1:

"I was in church sometime ago for the youth all-night program. It was a program where youth could discuss literally anything with pastors. You could ask any question, and the pastor or anyone else who knew the answer would answer you.

So, someone asked if people who committed suicide would make it to heaven, and almost everyone said NO.

Then I asked if Samson is in or going to hell, and the answer was NO. Seeing the confusion on my face, someone asked me if Samson committed suicide, and I said yes, which became a problem.

I told them that Samson knew he was going to die. In fact, he said, 'Let me perish with my enemies' before pulling down the building that killed him. They said I was wrong because his intention wasn't suicidal. I got even more confused and asked if taking one's life isn't suicide if the intention was noble. More confusion arose, but many people shared it.

To cause more confusion, I switched to Pidgin English. The pastor objected, saying that some things are simpler when explained in Pidgin English, and I reminded him how he had used the King James Version many times because the English adds more power to the prayer point.

He won though.

I asked the first apostle, 'What is suicide?. I want straight answers with no buts, if you have something to add you can do it later '

He replied, 'It's when a person kills himself.'

I said, 'Good, did Samson kill himself by pulling down the building or not?'

'He killed himself,' he replied.

'If an electrician doesn't wear gloves while working with electricity, isn't he trying to get himself electrocuted?' I asked.

'Yes, he is.' he responded.

'If the electric shock kills him, isn't it him killing himself?'

'Yes, he killed himself.'

'Then why do we call it an accident instead of suicide?'

' '

'Exactly.'

I told them that if suicide victims are going to hell, then a lot of Nigerians will be there because many who died from accident or the other were actually suicide victims. An electrician working without safety gear is suicidal, a driver speeding on a bad road is suicidal, a bike rider using one hand at high speed is suicidal, using a faulty car instead of fixing it is like wanting to kill yourself. If you have diabetes but eat anything that comes your way, it's the same thing. If your spouse consistently abuses you physically, knowing it could kill you, and you stay, it's the same thing, etc.


Don't tell me I was wrong; I know I wasn't completely correct, but my points presented a strong argument, and I enjoyed it. You should have seen their faces when I said that suicide was a brave act nah that one force them to collect their mike.

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Tallesty1:

"I was in church sometime ago for the youth all-night program. It was a program where youth could discuss literally anything with pastors. You could ask any question, and the pastor or anyone else who knew the answer would answer you.

So, someone asked if people who committed suicide would make it to heaven, and almost everyone said NO.

Then I asked if Samson is in or going to hell, and the answer was NO. Seeing the confusion on my face, someone asked me if Samson committed suicide, and I said yes, which became a problem.

I told them that Samson knew he was going to die. In fact, he said, 'Let me perish with my enemies' before pulling down the building that killed him. They said I was wrong because his intention wasn't suicidal. I got even more confused and asked if taking one's life isn't suicide if the intention was noble. More confusion arose, but many people shared it.

To cause more confusion, I switched to Pidgin English. The pastor objected, saying that some things are simpler when explained in Pidgin English, and I reminded him how he had used the King James Version many times because the English adds more power to the prayer point.

He won though.

I asked the first apostle, 'What is suicide?. I want straight answers with no buts, if you have something to add you can do it later '

He replied, 'It's when a person kills himself.'

I said, 'Good, did Samson kill himself by pulling down the building or not?'

'He killed himself,' he replied.

'If an electrician doesn't wear gloves while working with electricity, isn't he trying to get himself electrocuted?' I asked.

'Yes, he is.' he responded.

'If the electric shock kills him, isn't it him killing himself?'

'Yes, he killed himself.'

'Then why do we call it an accident instead of suicide?'

' '

'Exactly.'

I told them that if suicide victims are going to hell, then a lot of Nigerians will be there because many who died from accident or the other were actually suicide victims. An electrician working without safety gear is suicidal, a driver speeding on a bad road is suicidal, a bike rider using one hand at high speed is suicidal, using a faulty car instead of fixing it is like wanting to kill yourself. If you have diabetes but eat anything that comes your way, it's the same thing. If your spouse consistently abuses you physically, knowing it could kill you, and you stay, it's the same thing, etc.


Don't tell me I was wrong; I know I wasn't completely correct, but my points presented a strong argument, and I enjoyed it. You should have seen their faces when I said that suicide was a brave act nah that one force them to collect their mike.

thorpido:
How will the angels welcome someone who committed suicide?Ban gane ba.

blackjack21:
It could be argued, based on your points, that Jesus committed suicide.

Please don't suggest this at any congregation, that might be a suicide.