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TOPMAN4LIFE:
Do you even know the meaning of 'more revered'
Where all obas and emirs are seated, oba of Benin is always behind ooni of ife,
How is oba of Benin now more revered?
Traditionally, oba of Benin is from Yoruba land, that is why he is using the title oba which is known for Yorubas and that is why some Bini people bear Yoruba names and some Benin words are similar to Yoruba words .
You people like to twist history because of pride and lack of submission to your root,
Yorubas and obas title extend to Cotonou in Benin republic and Brazil.
Political leaders that place ooni above olu of Bini which you people changed to oba of Benin know this truth and apply it accordingly

Go and wash plate son when you become an adult you'll understand tradition better.

slawomir:
Damnnn niggar That is why the Benin kingdom remain the worst Come to Benin city and see fake monarchy That is why the oba of Benin, the FAT MONKEY, is the most disrespected oba in the whole of West Africa

Interesting.

Candidlady:
:oNdigbo culture under the bus 🚌🚐Igbos are their own enemies No wonder Nwazureke would say never trust people from my tribe. They are the most foolish tribe in the world. They are like rats that would feast on your toes while blowing it breeze °°°whatever that means°°°

Great point!

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Dey deceive yourself, as at today in Nigeria, Ooni of ife and sultan of soloto are the life chairmen and co chairmen of all traditional rulers in Nigeria,
Oba of Benin can only compare with the likes of alake of egba, awujale of ijebu, osemawe of Ondo, owa obokun of ijesaland, etc

Even the Ooni of Ife and Sultan of Sokoto know very that the position they occupy is political position as a result of Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani being majority ethnic group in Nigeria. My dear shoe get size. Oba of Benin no get mate and it is the simple truth.

lexy2014:
How did traditional rulers surrender the sanctity of their stool and people to the hands of politicians?

Go and ask Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, former Emir of Kano State.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Do you even know the meaning of 'more revered'
Where all obas and emirs are seated, oba of Benin is always behind ooni of ife,
How is oba of Benin now more revered?
Traditionally, oba of Benin is from Yoruba land, that is why he is using the title oba which is known for Yorubas and that is why some Bini people bear Yoruba names and some Benin words are similar to Yoruba words .
You people like to twist history because of pride and lack of submission to your root,
Yorubas and obas title extend to Cotonou in Benin republic and Brazil.
Political leaders that place ooni above olu of Bini which you people changed to oba of Benin know this truth and apply it accordingly

Look who is talking about pride. Mtcheeew!

Buddha3:
Go and ask Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, former Emir of Kano State.

Did you ask sanusi lamido sanusi, the former emir of Kano before u came to the conclusion that traditional rulers surrendered the sanctity of their stool and people to the hands of politicians?

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Do you even know the meaning of 'more revered'
Where all obas and emirs are seated, oba of Benin is always behind ooni of ife,
How is oba of Benin now more revered?
Traditionally, oba of Benin is from Yoruba land, that is why he is using the title oba which is known for Yorubas and that is why some Bini people bear Yoruba names and some Benin words are similar to Yoruba words .
You people like to twist history because of pride and lack of submission to your root,
Yorubas and obas title extend to Cotonou in Benin republic and Brazil.
Political leaders that place ooni above olu of Bini which you people changed to oba of Benin know this truth and apply it accordingly

There is no place for Yoruba names in Bini language and culture. Those who bear Bini names do so as a result of adoption due to them or their parents growing up or living in Yoruba land.

If you got that simple fact wrong, then there's every possibility that every other thing u have written is very wrong

What do u expect from one the drug dealer

See wetin England cause

lexy2014:
Did you ask sanusi lamido sanusi, the former emir of Kano before u came to the conclusion that traditional rulers surrendered the sanctity of their stool and people to the hands of politicians?

I actually did. Now's your turn. Go ask him for your own answer..

Buddha3:
I actually did. Now's your turn. Go ask him for your own answer..

That's great. That means u shouldn't have any problems stating how he surrendered the sanctity of his stool and people to the hands of politicians

OVB123:
Even the Ooni of Ife and Sultan of Sokoto know very that the position they occupy is political position as a result of Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani being majority ethnic group in Nigeria. My dear shoe get size. Oba of Benin no get mate and it is the simple truth.

Continue to deceive yourself, even your oba of Benin knows ooni is above him.
How many traditional rulers are under oba of Benin kingdom compare to the large number of obaship kingdoms under ooni in Yoruba land,
If Benin is not from Yoruba, they will not be using oba title that belongs to Yoruba and you people will not use words that are taking from Yoruba,
Even Yoruba obas from Benin republic admitted they are from Yoruba and ife.
Yoruba even extends as far as itshekri and that is why they too have some of their words similar to Yoruba, for example the title 'Olu' of itshekri was taken from Yoruba land because many traditional rulers in Yoruba use it like Olu ilaro, Olu Ibadan, Olu Iwo etc
There is no how you lie, ooni is the head .
The traditional rulers concerned know this and they know their individual place when government is dealing with them

Dancebreaker:
OK.
But in many places such as most of Edo and a small part of Ondo, the king's firstborn son is crown prince from birth.
Nothing any kingmaker or governor can do about. Only death can change that.

Therefore, such "kings in waiting from birth" have no reason be to beholden to any politician.

For example, Benin has no kingmakers but king crowners. The Governor only rubberstamps the coronation by presenting staff of office. After that, you will never see the Oba ever touch so called staff of office. Na just symbol from constitution.

That is true, however many Yoruba kingdoms have more than one ruling house. Like about four families having equal stake to the throne. Those families, when traced are almost always from one source (an ancient king with many wives).

But the truth is that inasmuch as the governor has the power to overturn the decision of the kingmakers owing to their constitutional power, it very rarely happens.

As for Edo state, a crazy governor can dethrone the Oba. He will lose the support of the people definitely judging by how revered the king is but he has done whatever he wants to do and has the backing of the constitution. A new governor might return things to status quo if he so wishes. The fact that it hasn't happened doesn't mean it's not possible. Remember, nobody is above the constitution and politicians can't be trusted. They are very selfish with ambitions. That's why Wike was seen backlashing some kings.

We all doubted Ganduje until he was consumed by the power he possessed and rained terror on the emirate. Although unlike Sanusi, the oba of Benin stays neutral in politics and as a result, such fate is far from the throne. I hope I'm clear

kennosklint:
Go and wash plate son when you become an adult you'll understand tradition better.

Truth is bitter
There was nothing like oba of Benin before, it was Olu of Bini, you people changed and modernized the title because you don't want to submit to your root .
Just like Lagos that changed from Eleko of eko, to oba of Lagos

Lanre1st:
Is it Ifa that appoint King or Queen in England?
You like to live in deceit, a King is telling you how it works, you are giving excuses. Even from ancient days, Ibadan land never engage Ifa to pick King, it is turn by turn, each family representative on queue to throne

Of course, IFA doesn't choose the England ruler. It's a turn by turn thing; neither does the government appoint. Different people with different ways of appointing their kings. Ibadan may do theirs in turns, other places by the oracle but it's totally wrong to have a governor appoint someone to an ancestral seat.

I'm not disregarding the fact that it is a thing we see nowadays.

My stance was that it is a terrible situation we have in some places in this part of the world which is certainly not supposed to be.

This Oluwo just laid the claim as if it is a norm. That's the disgust.

Dancebreaker:
Look, Benin monarchy preceded Nigeria and will also outlive it. Do you think Benin monarchy relies of corrupt Nigerian politics for relevance? The voters population strength mathematics of 9ja politicians? Did you observe that Oba of Benin doesn't even attend many of these jamborees Nigerian kings do in Abuja now and then?

When Benin Monarchy became the first country to recognise Brazilian independence from Portugal in 1823, before USA and Argentina, it didn't need any other tribe to do the right thing. Today, both Argentina and USA like to claim first position but Brazilian govt are emphatic that Benin did first.

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Oba of Benin doesn't always attend government functions because the frequency of inviting him is lesser compare to ooni of ife which federal government recognizes more,
But he still attends when he is invited.
All your story holds nothing, since colonial era that Nigeria has been together,ooni has always been above.
Your verbal claims will not change government beliefs .

I see why politicians control them like puppies

TRASH!SO,IT WAS THE GOV THAT PICKED YOU AS OBA?

Iv been fortunate to meet quite a few Yoruba Monarchs but His Royal Highness Oba Abdulrosheed Akanbi (Alase Lori Orisa 1) and the aura around him is BOLD.
And he’s got good taste too coupled with his sense of fashion.

Westman001:
Of course, IFA doesn't choose the England ruler. It's a turn by turn thing; neither does the government appoint. Different people with different ways of appointing their kings. Ibadan may do theirs in turns, other places by the oracle but it's totally wrong to have a governor appoint someone to an ancestral seat.

I'm not disregarding the fact that it is a thing we see nowadays.

My stance was that it is a terrible situation we have in some places in this part of the world which is certainly not supposed to be.

This Oluwo just laid the claim as if it is a norm. That's the disgust.

Sure Oluwo not suppose to say it out because it’s secret, but he said the truth.
Most of those practices that they use to scar people are lies but they made it a secret from the populace. Something like ORO, have you seen where ORO carry person, never it’s those doing it that we arrest the victim claiming ORO has carried him. IFA picked, it’s like rolling dice. It’s the elder consensus IFA will pick but they make it a secret. They we put sacrifices for deity to eat but it’s animals you will see going their to eat it up. All these traditional practices has over stay in our society, it high time to reform them

TOPMAN4LIFE:
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Oba of Benin doesn't always attend government functions because the frequency of inviting him is lesser compare to ooni of ife which federal government recognizes more,
But he still attends when he is invited.
All your story holds nothing, since colonial era that Nigeria has been together,ooni has always been above.
Your verbal claims will not change government beliefs .

You need to understand that as a crown prince, Oba of Benin would have already known most of the leaders of Nigeria today. Either doing something for Nigeria at the UN or as an ambassador to countries. So, Oba does not see any of these 9ja politicians as a big deal. Unlike a king that one governor suddenly picked. He would be pinching himself when invited to Abuja. Remember the topic here is that governors pick Yoruba kings. The revelation is not new but a great disservice to tradition when confirmed by a king this way.

As a crown prince, the father of current Oba of Benin ran the govt cabinet office of Gen Yakubu Gowon as Perm Sec. He also represented Nigeria to train officials of Papua New Guinea for their independence from Australia in 1975.

You seem to forget that fall of Benin made creating what became Nigeria possible. Since colonial times, Benin has been a reluctant participant in the Nigerian experiment. An experiment that has failed woefully so far. Yet, if a Benin prince is required to do any job for the people abroad or govt, he would put in his best efforts. Even if only for his family name.

Oba of Benin finds it far more important to attend to matters affecting citizens locally. Faaji and gallivanting has never been Oba of Benin's attribute. Since time immemorial. You think Oba doesn't know the houses of prominent people? But he would not go. Unless out of courtesy when as a guest of Alake of Ake in Abeokuta, he was prevailed on to follow him to visit Obasanjo for OBJ's birthday.

Whatever corrupt Nigerian politicians believe is irrelevant to Benin. The only Yoruba Kingdom Benin has ever truly respected for gallantry in war is Oyo. Warriors respect fellow warriors.

Awo's govt elevation of Ooni, the priest at Ife, above Alaafin, is not our matter. By the way, politicians always like pliant people, be they king or any regular sycophant.

But my simple take is that, these obas picked under the cover of darkness at night should be careful not to totally ruin the traditional institution. They should be very wary of politicians. Politicians only know of self-interest. They can use and rubbish anyone no matter how highly placed.

Dancebreaker:

You need to understand that as a crown prince, Oba of Benin would have already known most of the leaders of Nigeria today. Either doing something for Nigeria at the UN or as an ambassador to countries. So, Oba does not see any of these 9ja politicians as a big deal. Unlike a king that one governor suddenly picked. He would be pinching himself when invited to Abuja. Remember the topic here is that governors pick Yoruba kings. The revelation is not new but a great disservice to tradition when confirmed by a king this way.

As a crown prince, the father of current Oba of Benin ran the govt cabinet office of Gen Yakubu Gowon as Perm Sec. He also represented Nigeria to train officials of Papua New Guinea for their independence from Australia in 1975.

You seem to forget that fall of Benin made creating what became Nigeria possible. Since colonial times, Benin has been a reluctant participant in the Nigerian experiment. An experiment that has failed woefully so far. Yet, if a Benin prince is required to do any job for the people abroad or govt, he would put in his best efforts. Even if only for his family name.

Oba of Benin finds it far more important to attend to matters affecting citizens locally. Faaji and gallivanting has never been Oba of Benin's attribute. Since time immemorial. You think Oba doesn't know the houses of prominent people? But he would not go. Unless out of courtesy when as a guest of Alake of Ake in Abeokuta, he was prevailed on to follow him to visit Obasanjo for OBJ's birthday.

Whatever corrupt Nigerian politicians believe is irrelevant to Benin. The only Yoruba Kingdom Benin has ever truly respected for gallantry in war is Oyo. Warriors respect fellow warriors.

Awo's govt elevation of Ooni, the priest at Ife, above Alaafin, is not our matter. By the way, politicians always like pliant people, be they king or any regular sycophant.

But my simple take is that, these obas picked under the cover of darkness at night should be careful not to totally ruin the traditional institution. They should be very wary of politicians. Politicians only know of self-interest. They can use and rubbish anyone no matter how highly placed.

Alaafin's curse on Awo after relegation dealt with him. Same way Alaafin's curse on Ilorin people dealt with them.

chisomkachy:
https://tribuneonlineng.com/ifa-does-not-pick-yoruba-kings-governors-do-oluwo/

Talking from the two side of your mouth..

You said Governor..
Then you turn around and say it is Olodumare..

So, which one exactly did the more miracle here?
Don't come and say BOTH..

If it is Olodumare, then why bringing in the narrative of “Governor” at first.?

TriCee:
Bitter truth. Nigeria monarch system has been highly politicized.

I grew up respecting Kano emirate as a highly revered entity. But it took just a Ganduje(Governor) to bastardize that. Even the Emir was dethroned.

Well, they have outlived their usefulness. Even village matters are now settled in police stations, instead of palaces.

Except the Benin monarchial system.

id4sho:
There is no monarch that cannot be crowned/deposed by the state government. Chieftaincy is strictly state government affairs.

Benin people, food don don. Oya come and eat yen yen yen yen

Cry more! Benin is the only place among first class traditional rulers in Nigeria whose traditional ruler is a true monarch. Governor nor dey select their Oba.

Wail more if the information pains you.

justlovesfarmin:
Same one that married two sisters?

And is it a crime to marry two sisters? Clown!


You must be a Yoruba that is pained that your traditional institutions have been politicized.

What of your Ooni of Ife that was involved in a messy divorce? You don see the wife of Oba of Benin for social media before? But your ooni of Ife's wife was all over social media when she divorced the Ooni, Insulting him.

Governors are the new Ifa.

airsaylongcome:
Not only Yoruba Kings. all Nigerian kings

Not all Nigera kings. The Oba of Benin is in a class of his own.

Westman001:
Reading the Oba transcript is disgusting

According to tradition and culture of the Yoruba people it is very wrong for a king to be appointed. It is a monarchy system of ruling. The PM does not appoint the King or Queen of England.

This part of the world just take civilization wrongly and blindly. If proper redress is not taken, Yoruba would lost it customs.

The Oluwo just go and display his already known arrogance and ignoramuses.

What is this one saying. You talking about about what it ought to be, the Olowu is talking about what it really is. Is the Olowu right or wrong? Is it a lie that governors are the ones that appoint traditional rulers in yoruba land?

Holluwhakemmy:
They do comes to Ile-Ife before anything can be done soooo

Lol. Who goes to Ile-Ife before anything can be done? The oba of Benin? You are a joker! . A big clown!

Maybe you don't know that your oba of lagos traced his origin to Benin and in times past, the Oba of lagos used to be buried in Benin.